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#2901526 - 01/12/18 03:34 AM They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder
MorayM Offline
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Klonk....



I'm sure the Behringer announcement has forced their hand here, between them and Roland we're spoilt for choice for vintage strings and vocoding! The premium price though ($900!) is odd given the competition and especially as the Streichfett was so cheap.

I know I'm probably not the best person to ask about modern popular music but I hadn't noticed a resurgence in these kind of sounds. What's driving it?
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#2901527 - 01/12/18 03:48 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: MorayM]
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Ah yes. The Stringfelt. grin
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#2901532 - 01/12/18 04:52 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: Synthoid]
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I think the driver is recreating a lot of old vintage boards. Roland kind of started it with the boutique series and the other manufacturers must think it's a good idea.

None of the string/vocoder pieces are in my market. I have lots of vintage string machine sounds between my Electro (which has a huge library of old string machines) and the capability of my FA08, which also has the vocoder covered.
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#2901541 - 01/12/18 05:35 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: DanL]
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$900 and a ship date. Hmmmm
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#2901567 - 01/12/18 07:04 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Serious question: What else can you use a vocoder for other than "robot choir?"

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#2901573 - 01/12/18 07:34 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: MorayM]
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#2901614 - 01/12/18 09:33 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: Synthoid]
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Where is Cylon Vocoder these days? grin
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#2901616 - 01/12/18 09:48 AM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: mate stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate stubb
Where is Cylon Vocoder these days? grin


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#2901697 - 01/12/18 04:53 PM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: Marzzz]
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Originally Posted By: Marzzz
Serious question: What else can you use a vocoder for other than "robot choir?"


I second this. I like the sound, but it has an admittedly limited range without enough frequency bands and some careful studio craft. Like anything else, it requires focus. If you want an example of a vocoder that's really tricked out properly, check out Roland's VP-770. The demo is a bit draggy, but you'll still hear how much it shines.

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#2901712 - 01/12/18 06:20 PM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: David Emm]
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Interesting. So it combines those two Waldorf modules with a built-in mic and keyboard? Looks like full-sized keys? Might be worth it, if it sounds good, as it's hard to track with software vocoders and even though it can be difficult to re-track with them after-the-fact, I still find it best to do initial tracking with hardware.

Don't forget, most players are doing covers, not originals, and in most cases those covers aren't the most recent music, so there ought to be a sufficient market for this instrument.
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#2901713 - 01/12/18 06:22 PM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Oh, just saw the comment about limited frequency bands. That didn't hurt the Korg MS2000 all that much (ironically, I had a harder time working with the higher-resolution vocoder in the RADIAS), but I'm pretty spoilt at this point and really only want to use Sennheiser and EMS level quality and resolution.

I own Waldorf's software vocoder. Does anyone know if it's the same as the hardware vocoder? I haven't fiound it very articulate for what I do with vocoding, with is more along the lines of Prince, New Order, and some of the late 70's stuff, rather than the robot mnono-tone vocoding.
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#2901714 - 01/12/18 06:24 PM Re: They're all at it! Waldorf STVC String Machine/Vocoder [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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One of my pet peeves is 3/4 view photos of gear. Totally useless. I guess marketing people thing it looks sexy or more three-dimensional. After a couple of decades, I thought this unfortunate fad would pass.

Luckily there's another photo at the linked site, which is head-on but a bit small. I always copy things labeled "klonk" and examine them before loading the page via the ENTER key. I wish people wouldn't disguise their links; I don't consider them safe.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (01/12/18 06:26 PM)
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