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#2907448 - 02/05/18 02:40 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Once saw KAYE BALLARD do the theme from "Shaft" on The Tonight Show" shortly after the tune won the Oscar. Luckily, a clip of it doesn't exist.

It was all a gag anyway...
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#2907516 - 02/06/18 04:01 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Here`s one-file it under `I didn`t see that coming`, along with about half the under age 40 planet. The article tells it better than I have patience for:
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/natalie-imbruglia-torn-cover-2128628
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#2907527 - 02/06/18 05:36 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: skipclone 1]
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Not really familiar with the tune Skip, but perusing the clips it's clear each artist found their own way of presenting it. And that kind of "shake up" has happened before.

Like, personally, I knew(and still know) several who were boggled to discover The Seachers' "Love Potion #9" was a "cover" of a (then) five year old CLOVERS tune. And some who actually thought ELVIS wrote "Hound Dog" and were SHOCKED to discover some old black blues singer Big Mama Thornton did the song FOUR YEARS before Elvis! Or that....

BILL HALEY wasn't the first to do "Shake, Rattle and Roll".

DION didn't do the original "Ruby Baby"

CCR wasn't the first to do "Susie Q"

The list goes on.....

But it could get amusing. I remember a friend of mine, who was over my house when I was spinning records, getting angry 'cause (as he put it) "That Chuck Berry guy ruined that Beatles tune!" He of course, was referring to "Rock and Roll Music". grin
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#2907560 - 02/06/18 07:43 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Or, he could have been referring to "Roll Over Beethoven" if you had spun that one LOL! cool
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#2907613 - 02/06/18 11:43 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: skipclone 1]
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Originally Posted By: skipclone 1
Here`s one-file it under `I didn`t see that coming`, along with about half the under age 40 planet. The article tells it better than I have patience for:
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/natalie-imbruglia-torn-cover-2128628


I loved that! Especially since- according to the article comments- the journalist missed another version of the song that predated Natalie’s that many seemed to consider to be the best of all.
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#2907617 - 02/06/18 11:56 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Ein bischen Deutsche-pop?

“Der Kommissar”! As I understand it, there are many covers of this song (not as many as, say, “Louie, Louie”, but...) in several languages.

Falco (original European vid)

Falco (American vid)


After The Fire


Dale Bozzio


Suzy Andrews




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#2907623 - 02/06/18 12:06 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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And here’s Trio’s hit, “Da Da Da”, another that went ‘round the world.


Covered by...
Toss


Salco


Suzy Andrews (again with the Germans?)


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#2907630 - 02/06/18 12:09 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Why those?

Well...because I could!

And because there’s an element of illustrating how a song can be covered faithfully- or not- and make you wonder...”Why?” By that, I mean why you’d be so faithful to an original that there’s almost nothing of the covering artist’s unique character in the results.
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#2907672 - 02/06/18 02:50 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Sure As each one seemed to be just as boring as the predecessor, indeed. Why?

At least the last one seemed to "spice" it up a bit. Still a most boring tune though.
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#2907683 - 02/06/18 04:03 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
... why you’d be so faithful to an original that there’s almost nothing of the covering artist’s unique character in the results.


There can be a learning exercise that serves as a legit reason to do that but to me that's all.
There's also a value in delivering a rousing community event by performing a copy of a song or introducing a unknown or little-known creator to a wider audience but simply recording a just copy of a song for sale is pointless.
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#2907777 - 02/07/18 04:29 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: d]
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Again, indeed. The crowds at local bars might in cases prefer the band sound "record quality" when a band does a cover, but if trying to get ahead in the "biz", doing a "cover" of some song, but sounding exactly like the band whose song you're covering doesn't seem like it would get you anywhere.

It reminds me of those old days when record clubs(remember them?) would offer LPs of all the "latest hits" done by studio artists TRYING to sound just like the originals.

Now, some can come CLOSE to the original cut, but some subtle but noticeable changes make it new. ie.---

Original


Cover--
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#2907852 - 02/07/18 10:03 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Which swangs us 'round to what might be the deepest reinterpretive cover in the rock canon & one that has left such a deep mark that no one has thought to even post it here, yet.
JH so completely restructured the song that even Bob Dyl adopted his treatment.

Rehearsal = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw5QyGtGryU


Revelation = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY


And Then Après Lui, le Déluge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E05eBPjZNds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL1vcxhxAZw


....But still the power of that reinvention remains....
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#2907858 - 02/07/18 10:20 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: d]
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Originally Posted By: d
Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
... why you’d be so faithful to an original that there’s almost nothing of the covering artist’s unique character in the results.


There can be a learning exercise that serves as a legit reason to do that but to me that's all.
There's also a value in delivering a rousing community event by performing a copy of a song or introducing a unknown or little-known creator to a wider audience but simply recording a just copy of a song for sale is pointless.


While I agree, there comes a point when a song has been redone faithfully so many times, covering it that way on a commercial release seems...pointless.

Consider “Sleepwalk”, mentioned upthread. One of my favorite guitarists, Joe Satriani, did a beautifully faithful version of it a few years ago. When I play that CD, I usually skip it because it contains almost nothing of Joe in it. There are flares of what he does, but they’re soooooo subtle. It’s a love letter to the original, but on a certain level, it’s pointless.

For all that “Da Da Da” may be a virtually disposable piece of pure pop fluff, several covers at least changed the language, expanding the listening base. The same could be said of several versions of “Der Kommissar”.


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#2907874 - 02/07/18 10:56 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Uh, think yer reiterating what I said....
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#2907886 - 02/07/18 11:19 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: d]
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In retrospect, yes!
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#2907914 - 02/07/18 12:30 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Man of Constant Sorrow has been covered by many. But this from Waylon Jennings I found most interesting. https://youtu.be/p7m__VJGXok

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#2907960 - 02/07/18 02:46 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: DocPate]
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Waylon's was a unique approach. More so than most I've heard before.

The following are the first TWO versions of the song I've ever heard.

From his debut LP c.'62---



From her a couple or so years later...


BTW: Those clips of Jimi and them doing "Watchtower". I like how(and I've heard other examples before) Jimi, oft thought of as "The King of The Electric Guitar" began working out his cover of the tune ACOUSTICALLY! wink
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#2907982 - 02/07/18 05:25 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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More covrs from The Dyl...only the other way 'round.
Despite the pitcha that's not Bob on bass but yes folkie folks that's GH sanging along during the last verse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_0SUUq6joo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wX4FkD-MGE


Couldn't come up w/ The Dyl's cover of Paul Simon's "The Boxer", wherin BD demonstrated a rather, uh, idiosycratic sense of vocal harmony but here's a surprising perf of him on Simon's early hit that was created by BD's sometime producer Tom Wilson in a deliberate attempt to snare some of that BobMagic for clients Simo & Garf.
That they even appeared on stage together took me by surprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJVTCRpaPjw


Taking a step further, were that not enough, witness BD's repayment of Elvis Presley's covering of a couple early Dyl tunes.
Most interesting aspect, however is the pschotropical gtr part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77FY7yhFHWQ


This one I'll let each find their own value in...& yes it is the EAP career starter, not "That's Alright Mama, I'm Only Bleeding" grin facepalm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDYgiqtpkss
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#2907986 - 02/07/18 05:45 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: d]
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Before I forget, here's a rather surprising version of "Man O'Constant Sorrow" put out as a single freak by Ginger Bakser's Airforce, featuring then-former Moody Bluester Denny Laine on vox...along w/pedal steel, fiddle & a brass section. HeadPop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBWQquBiGMk


Hear also here a version restructured &, itself much covered
(see YT list = https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=maid+of+constant+sorrow)
by one of my greataunts who performed this, with other material, at the World's Fair, late 1930s NYC, as a exhibition of folk musicians from Appalachia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn5F_UQMPLM
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#2908015 - 02/07/18 09:47 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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#2908041 - 02/08/18 04:22 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Well, I ASKED for "interesting", and got 'em for sure!

But since d gave us Dylan covering "It's Alright" and others included the originals to compare the "covers" to, I think since the ELVIS version of "It's Alright" was too, a "cover" of an eight year old Arthur Crudup tune, I think it fair we include the original to IT as well. wink



Oh, and I'd like to thank HUGO for that old footage of Tim Buckley. It's been years since I've heard him sing "straight", "Greetings Fron LA" being the only stuff of his I have. His vocals on most of THAT is most unique, to say the least. wink
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#2908120 - 02/08/18 01:15 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Stagger Lee (aka many other names)

First recorded by Lovie Austin



Worst (IMHO) cover - Pat Boone



One of best:


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#2908153 - 02/08/18 03:12 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: DocPate]
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That song went through many changes of both musical content and lyrics over it's long history. Written in the late 19th century, most early recordings were instrumentals. I did find Lovie's '24 recording, but it was titled "Skeeg-a-Lee Blues" and didn't sound anything like the song we've later came to enjoy. Ma Rainey "covered" it the same year, singing a song that closely resembles "Frankie And Johnny".

It also was known by the title "Stack-O-Lee" and the version Price does is his own reworking of the long belabored tune.
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#2908176 - 02/08/18 04:17 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Most historians use Mississippi John Hurt's version as the definitive one.

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#2908250 - 02/09/18 04:18 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: DocPate]
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So let's give it a listen..... smile



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#2908278 - 02/09/18 07:31 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Gotta say, too little discussion of any track's merits.....
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#2908488 - 02/10/18 04:59 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: d]
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Kinda melding two threads in one, I'm sure many "boomers" remember somebody "borrowing" a theme from J.S. Bach and coming up with this little "pop" ditty in the '60's. Long claimed to be from Bach's "Minuet in G major" that piece is now believed to have been written by CHRISTIAN PETZOLD. And recorded in the 1940's by FREDDY MARTIN, an "A Lover's Concerto...

Couldn't find Martin's version, but we all know THIS one:


Which eventually led to this "novelty" cover---


The woman had a nice little "late life" career covering well known pop tunes with her(ahem) unique vocal "styling's". In some retrospect, I wonder if it was a way of making fun of modern "pop" artists of the time by showing anyone can have a "hit" record in the (then) modern "pop" genre. I'm sure Mrs. Miller didn't mind though that people laughed at her "singing", as she too, was busy laughing. All the way to the BANK! grin
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#2909362 - 02/13/18 02:51 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Heh!

All this stuff about covers, and I left out probably one of MY all time favorite "covers".

Like the use of original source material and how it's squeezed in at times throughout the piece....


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#2909384 - 02/13/18 05:21 PM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: whitefang]
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Quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU4UDyPENdo Long claimed to be from Bach's "Minuet in G major" that piece is now believed to have been written by CHRISTIAN PETZOLD. And recorded in the 1940's by FREDDY MARTIN, an "A Lover's Concerto...

It only takes a moment to hear the derivation from Bach.


Whether he wrote lyrics is debatable.

FWIW, here's Martin's version which has no relationship w/the Motown track


I think a better variation than the one you foist on our ears is this one which at least offers a few new rhythm ideas
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#2909444 - 02/14/18 04:33 AM Re: Interesting "covrs" [Re: d]
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No, of course Bach didn't write the lyrics. I'm not really sure who did.

And sure, Vaughn's version( as one track of many on an album recorded sometime later)) is nicer on the ears, but never really released as a single, and The Toys' version is more familiar with American audiences. And that Freddy Martin clip has no connection to the Bach piece in question. In fact, plowing through several clips that followed his version of "A Lover's Concerto" is STILL not found for some reason. But interesting.....

Most people( me included) probably didn't realize DICK DALE'S biggest "hit" was also a "cover" wink

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