Roland V-Combo VR-09

[xKnuckles]

You don't like the VR09 organ sounds Franky? That surprises me. I really love them. What don't you like about them? I can't help wondering whether you have somehow managed to not use the best possible settings to get the sound you want.....

[franky46]

Hello,

 

the V-Combo Editor is now on the CTRLR website:

 

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

 

 

@xKnuckles

The VR09 and the eternal discussion

I am no adept of a specific Hammond clone sound, I like the former Roland VR/VKs, the Nords, the XK/XS, Numas, Visconts and I am far from being a "pure Hammond-sound" fanatic, I get my goosebumps from the warm, swirling sound of my chérie, the ol'Acetone GT plugged to a 'crappy' Echolette. But the VR09, errrr, no. Not for my ears

 

What I don't like about it?

 

To start with the most important, the clean 'base' sound, which in the case of the VR is missing the overtone spectrum that makes a Hammond (clone) sound like a Hammond (clone) and not a cheesy Bontempi sine generator.

Then I try to compensate adding a bit of the missing overtones (e.g. some 4" and 2" to 8" etc), then start adding effects.

To get a kind of rock organ I play with OD (the 'distorsion' overdrive ... yeah, it adds... distorsion), compression, twin rotary, the tone-dial, organ EQ, etc, short, everything that never belonged to a pizza... I find a nice sound on two octaves, but when I quit those it returns to bad, when I get the higher tones right the lowers lack ground, when I get the lowers right, the highers become dumb, missing brilliance and 'scream'.

It's the thing with those disco girls layering tons of cosmetics on their face which makes them look like Mrs. Schiffer at the first glance, but better do not take a second look...

 

And then it comes to Jazz. That's my favorite (and I really really like ... the Dennerlein style)

Everything based on 8880... totally sucks on the VR09, and it's no 'ok I can live with it" - it's awfull, it hurts my ears (and not only mine!), my mind and my psyche.

In my dispair I once plugged the VB3 to the VR audio-in, put earphones on and spend weeks to reproduce the VB3 sounds on the VR. For some few it worked, but for the majority, oh my godness! No soul, no warmth, no magic, no mystic, no 'drug'.

Sincerely, I offer a bottle of good wine to the first who presents me a warm 8880...-like tube sound coming out of the VR.

 

This said, this is NO criticism of the VR, it is what it is. I own it since two-fourteen and after a period of glowing hate after leaving the initial expectations , started to like it, really. It's a highly mobile 5kg car boot allrounder that can do everying on a decent but not amateur level.

My only, very personal regret, if only Roland would have continued the VK8 engine...

 

f

 

 

 

 

 

 

[WesG]

I must need better ears. I have a hard time telling the difference between my actual tonewheel rig and my VR09/Vent when listening to live recordings (Zoom H4n) of my band.

 

The biggest "tell" is that my VR09/Vent rig is usually too loud. I must have a harder time balancing it in the stage mix for some reason. Probably because it's coming from a wedge. Also I will send the sound guy a submixed feed when it's VR09.............maybe I shouldn't be doing that. My piano level (CP4) is always good.

 

Wes

[xKnuckles]

Hello,

 

the V-Combo Editor is now on the CTRLR website:

 

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

 

 

@xKnuckles

The VR09 and the eternal discussion

I am no adept of a specific Hammond clone sound, I like the former Roland VR/VKs, the Nords, the XK/XS, Numas, Visconts and I am far from being a "pure Hammond-sound" fanatic, I get my goosebumps from the warm, swirling sound of my chérie, the ol'Acetone GT plugged to a 'crappy' Echolette. But the VR09, errrr, no. Not for my ears

 

What I don't like about it?

 

To start with the most important, the clean 'base' sound, which in the case of the VR is missing the overtone spectrum that makes a Hammond (clone) sound like a Hammond (clone) and not a cheesy Bontempi sine generator.

Then I try to compensate adding a bit of the missing overtones (e.g. some 4" and 2" to 8" etc), then start adding effects.

To get a kind of rock organ I play with OD (the 'distorsion' overdrive ... yeah, it adds... distorsion), compression, twin rotary, the tone-dial, organ EQ, etc, short, everything that never belonged to a pizza... I find a nice sound on two octaves, but when I quit those it returns to bad, when I get the higher tones right the lowers lack ground, when I get the lowers right, the highers become dumb, missing brilliance and 'scream'.

It's the thing with those disco girls layering tons of cosmetics on their face which makes them look like Mrs. Schiffer at the first glance, but better do not take a second look...

 

And then it comes to Jazz. That's my favorite (and I really really like ... the Dennerlein style)

Everything based on 8880... totally sucks on the VR09, and it's no 'ok I can live with it" - it's awfull, it hurts my ears (and not only mine!), my mind and my psyche.

In my dispair I once plugged the VB3 to the VR audio-in, put earphones on and spend weeks to reproduce the VB3 sounds on the VR. For some few it worked, but for the majority, oh my godness! No soul, no warmth, no magic, no mystic, no 'drug'.

Sincerely, I offer a bottle of good wine to the first who presents me a warm 8880...-like tube sound coming out of the VR.

 

This said, this is NO criticism of the VR, it is what it is. I own it since two-fourteen and after a period of glowing hate after leaving the initial expectations , started to like it, really. It's a highly mobile 5kg car boot allrounder that can do everying on a decent but not amateur level.

My only, very personal regret, if only Roland would have continued the VK8 engine...

 

f

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the link, Franky - that looks very useful.

Interesting to hear your thoughts on the Vr's sound. Clearly your ears are far more sensitive than mine (I freely admit to being no connesseur of organs, having never played a real one...). I just know that I love the sounds the Vr produces. What a shame that you cannot create the sound you are after.

 

[Nils_O]

Hello,

 

the V-Combo Editor is now on the CTRLR website:

 

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

Is there a way to export an instrument definition file or in some way manually extract it from this.

I would have liked to buy the VR-09 and use the Roland Atelier sounds from VArranger and need for this a .ins file.

 

[franky46]

Servus

 

@Nils: Nice idea ! But I have no glue about .ins files. From some documents I found it seems feasible to make a .ins file using the msb/msb/pc numbers, assuming the Arranger uses the 'bank'-formula '128*msb+lsb' ??! Do you have the .ins file specification?

 

4all: "V-Editor" update (dropped the KBD/GM2-tab to simplify working aera)

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

don't know if I have better ears... hm, something to think about - at least it would be anything sensible in my anatomy...

In the end it's a question of personal taste (said the ape and bite the soap..as Germans say), expectation and application.

 

 

[roygBiv]

Hi Franky46

 

Thank you for making this editor, I am very much looking forward to trying it out!

 

Quick question - along with editing patches, can one use this as a simple patch manager?

 

I would like a simple way to re-arrange patches in memory, to save for different set-lists (my band leader likes to change the order of songs around frequently).

 

If you program could be used to re-sort and re-order patches, then re-load them into memory on the VR09, that alone would be fantastic!

 

Currently, re-arranging patches on the VR09 is a very slow thing to do, as it involves a lot of button pushes for each memory that you want to change (plus trying to remember what memory has what patch, without overwriting the patches you want, etc.).

 

Cheers,

 

Roy

[franky46]

If you program could be used to re-sort and re-order patches, then re-load them into memory on the VR09,

 

Hello Roy,

to precise, when you speak about patches, you mean the registration (banks) and to rearrange them on keyboard?

 

If so: the onboard registrations cannot be accessed and manipulated by midi.

But as many VR-owner I was thinking about this problem. The solution is to use the registration export to USB-stick instead of midi.

The full registration set is saved to a VR09_nmk.UPG file on the usb-stick. These files are binary encoded and can be edited with a hex editor. Each single registration is represented by a binary block that can be moved to other positions within the file (this works).

As the CTRLR Panels can access the filesystem of the PC, it should be possible to write a parser for the upg-files.

The tool chain would be: on VR, save registration set, move the usb-stick to the PC, load the .upg-file to the V-Combo editor, rearrange the registrations and save, move the stick back into the VR, load the new registration set.

This seems possible, but this won't be for tomorrow.

 

An other feature to implement: with the all those new sounds, it would be nice to have the possibility to save and reload sound-registrations within the app...

 

so a lot of ideas, 2018 won't be boring

 

f

 

 

 

 

[Nils_O]

Servus

 

@Nils: Nice idea ! But I have no glue about .ins files. From some documents I found it seems feasible to make a .ins file using the msb/msb/pc numbers, assuming the Arranger uses the 'bank'-formula '128*msb+lsb' ??! Do you have the .ins file specification?

 

4all: "V-Editor" update (dropped the KBD/GM2-tab to simplify working aera)

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

don't know if I have better ears... hm, something to think about - at least it would be anything sensible in my anatomy...

In the end it's a question of personal taste (said the ape and bite the soap..as Germans say), expectation and application.

 

 

No but it should look something like this, I copied form VArranger forum.

And as example MOXF ins file below.

 

 

[My Bank 0-0] ;

0=GrandPiano

1=BrightPiano

2=El.GrandPiano

3=Honkytonk

 

[My Super Bank 0-1]

0=GrandPiano KSP

1=BrightPiano KSP

2=El.GrandPiano KSP

3=Honkytonk KSP

4=ElectricPiano1 KSP

 

[bank 0-114]

3=OctavePiano2

0=WarmGrand

4=GalaxyEP

19=HymnOrgan

20=Harmonium1

22=BluesHarp

23=TangoAccordion

33=ElectricBass

 

[bank 121-1]

0=GrandPiano Wide

1=BrightPiano Wide

2=El.GrandPiano Wide

3=Honkytonk Wide

 

.Instrument Definitions ;

[Roland VR...]

Patch[0]=My Bank 0-0

Patch[1]=My Super Bank 0-1

Patch[114]=Bank 0-114

Patch[15489]=Bank 121-1 ;

 

 

 

MOXF ins file looks like this.

; -----------------------------------------------------------

; Cakewalk Instrument Definition File for MOXF

; Generated by John Melas MOXF Total Librarian v2.3.1

; -----------------------------------------------------------

 

.Patch Names

 

[PRE1]

0=Pn:Full Concert Grand

1=Pn:Rock Grand Piano

2=Pn:Mellow Grand Piano

3=Pn:Glasgow

4=Pn:Romantic Piano

5=Pn:Aggressive Grand

6=Pn:Tacky

7=Pn:House Piano

8=Pn:Old and Squashed

9=Pn:Ballad Key

10=Pn:80s Layer

11=Pn:Ballad Stack

12=Pn:Piano Back

13=Pn:Piano & Strings

14=Pn:Piano & Ooh Choir

15=Pn:Monaural Grand MW

16=Pn:Old Blues

17=Pn:1968

18=Pn:CP 1979

19=Pn:CP70 Chorus

20=Pn:Journey

21=Kb:Vintage'74

22=Kb:R&B Soft

23=Kb:Early 70's

24=Kb:Soft Case

25=Kb:Crunchy Comp

26=Kb:Vintage Case

27=Kb:Hard Vintage

28=Kb:Sweetness MW+AS2

29=Kb:Phaser Vintage

30=Kb:Vintage Phase

31=Kb:Early Fusion

32=Kb:Neo Soul MW+AS1

33=Kb:1983 MW+AS1

34=Kb:Contempo

35=Kb:Clicky Dyno MW+AS2

36=Kb:Dyno Straight MW+AS2

37=Kb:Dyno Chorus MW+AS2

38=Kb:80s Boosted

39=Kb:Chorus Hard

40=Kb:Max Tine

41=Kb:Bell Chorus

42=Kb:Drive EP AS1

43=Kb:Vinyl EP AS1

44=Kb:Natural Wurli

45=Kb:Wurli EP Bright

46=Kb:Wurli Distortion AS1

47=Kb:Phaze Wurli

48=Kb:DX Legend

49=Kb:Bell DX

50=Kb:DX Woody

51=Kb:Full Tine

52=Kb:DX Mellow

53=Kb:DX Crisp

54=Kb:DX Celesta EP

55=Kb:DX Pluck EP

56=Kb:DX-7 II AS1

57=Kb:GS Tines AF1&2

58=Kb:Galaxy DX

59=Kb:TX816 Bell Piano

60=Kb:Marimba DX

61=Kb:DX5-Zero

62=Kb:Hybrid EP

63=Kb:Mixed Up

64=Kb:Dyno Wurli

65=Kb:Analog Piano

66=Kb:AhrAmI

67=Kb:Electro Piano

68=Kb:Transistor Piano

69=Kb:EP Pad

70=Kb:DX Pad

71=Kb:Dyno Choir

72=Kb:Vintage Clavi

73=Kb:Super Clavi

74=Kb:Stereo Clavi

75=Kb:Hollow Clavi

76=Kb:Nu Phasing

77=Kb:Touch Clavi

78=Kb:Pedal Wah Clavi FC2

79=Kb:Pulse Clavi

80=Kb:Guitarpsichord

81=Kb:Hipsichord

82=Or:16 + 8 + 5&1/3

83=Or:Jazz 2nd Perc + C3

84=Or:First 3 w/Perc

85=Or:Slow Jam

86=Or:Cool Cat

87=Or:Jazzy 1

88=Or:Jazzy 2

89=Or:Jazzy Chorus

90=Or:On Road AS1

91=Or:Progressy

92=Or:Rocky AS2

93=Or:Crunchy AS2

94=Or:1972 AS1

95=Or:Glassy AF1

96=Or:Clean

97=Or:All Bars Perc AF1&2

98=Or:Rotor Vibrato

99=Or:Vib Chorus AF1

100=Or:Soulemn

101=Or:Mellow AS2

102=Or:Fully

103=Or:FullDraw/CVibrato

104=Or:Even Out

105=Or:Harmonic Hole

106=Or:A Few Wheels

107=Or:Left Manual

108=Or:Draw Control

109=Or:Stop Rotar

110=Or:Clean Noise

111=Or:Walking Bass

112=Or:Greasy

113=Or:Swishie

114=Or:Solo Percussion AF2

115=Or:PercussionVibratoAF2

116=Or:Tiny Combo Bars 1

117=Or:Tiny Combo Bars 2

118=Or:Panther

119=Or:1967 Keys

120=Or:YD-45C

121=Or:Diamond Head

122=Or:Early Bird

123=Or:Moet

124=Or:Bollinger

125=Or:Vinyl Organ

126=Or:Alternator

127=Or:Flying Rhythm Bars

 

[PRE2]

0=Or:Roundabout

1=Or:Tradi

2=Or:Petit

3=Or:Fluty

4=Or:Fluty Pipe

5=Or:St. Peter

6=Or:St. Paul AF1&2

7=Or:Impromptu

8=Or:Mixture

9=Or:Reed Split

10=Or:Medieval MW

11=Or:Breath Pipe

12=Or:Reedy Pipe

13=Or:Sunday

14=Or:Accordions AF1&2

15=Cp:Soft Marimba

16=Cp:Vibes Bow MW

17=Cp:Twinkle

18=Cp:Stick Bell

19=Cp:Ice Bells

20=Cp:Bell Ice

21=Cp:Stack Bell

22=Cp:J-Pop

23=Cp:Chorus Bell

24=Cp:Handbell

25=Cp:Bell Chiff

26=Cp:Sako Bell

27=Cp:Nice Bell

28=Cp:Noisy Bell

29=Cp:Pop Bells & Pad MW

30=Cp:Going To Heaven

31=Cp:Digibox

32=Cp:Nibelungen

33=Cp:Wood Bell

34=Cp:Marimbell

35=Cp:Synth Steel Drum

36=Cp:Gamelan

37=Cp:Ethnic Dream

38=Cp:Mystic Bowl

39=Et:Mbira

40=Cp:Glass Mbira

41=Cp:Island Bell

42=Cp:Tibetan

43=Cp:Rimba Bells

44=Cp:Lost in Asia

45=Cp:Coconuts Random

46=Cp:Kodo

47=Cp:Timpani/Bell/Glocken

48=Cp:Orc Percussion

49=Gt:Classical AF1&2

50=Gt:High Tension AF1&2

51=Gt:Sao Paulo

52=Gt:Barcelona

53=Gt:Nylon Slide Vel

54=Gt:Nylon Harmonics Vel

55=Gt:Classical 12 Strings

56=Gt:Hip-Hop Nylon Guitar

57=Gt:Steel String AF1&2

58=Gt:Old Strings AF1&2

59=Gt:Steel Slide Vel

60=Gt:Mute & Slide Vel

61=Gt:Steel Harmonics Vel

62=Gt:Hip-Hop Steel Guitar

63=Gt:Hi Strings

64=Gt:Two Acoustics

65=Gt:2 Steel Strings

66=Gt:Big 12 Strings

67=Gt:Airy 12 AF1&2

68=Gt:Wide 12 strings AF1

69=Gt:12Strings Mono

70=Gt:Clean El & Ac 1

71=Gt:Clean El & Ac 2

72=Gt:Clean El & Ac 3

73=Gt:Strange 12

74=Gt:Jazzy Pick

75=Gt:Melodic Jazz

76=Gt:Fat Oil Jazz AF1&2

77=Gt:Touch Wah AF1

78=Gt:Baby AF1

79=Gt:Good Night

80=Gt:Dynamic Clean AF1&2

81=Gt:Single Coil Chorus

82=Gt:Distant

83=Gt:Some Hair

84=Gt:Clean Slide Vel

85=Gt:Hit It Hard AS2

86=Gt:Paddy Clean

87=Gt:Bluesy Clean Legato

88=Gt:Dual Coil '65

89=Gt:Dual Coil Amp AS1

90=Gt:Roto Guitar MW

91=Gt:Dual Coil Slide Vel

92=Gt:Dual Coil Slap Vel

93=Gt:Dual Coil 80s Clean

94=Gt:Dual Coil Rotary

95=Gt:Electric 12Strings

96=Gt:Rotator AF1&2

97=Gt:Middy Tremolo

98=Gt:Retro Flanger

99=Gt:Vintage Strum

100=Gt:Spanky

101=Gt:Rockabilly

102=Gt:2 Electrics AF1&2

103=Gt:Light Blues AF1&2

104=Gt:Dual Coil Semi Clean

105=Gt:Chorus Dist AF1&2

106=Gt:Tex Boogie

107=Gt:59 Combo AF1&2

108=Gt:Alternative Rocker

109=Gt:Overdrive Mute&Harmo

110=Gt:Crunched Up 376

111=Gt:Dynamic Amp AS1

112=Gt:Chuggin' Guitar

113=Gt:Chugga

114=Gt:Small Amp AS1

115=Gt:Metal Mute AS2

116=Gt:DistortionMute&Harmo

117=Gt:Cool Drive AS1

118=Gt:Hard Drive AS1&2

119=Gt:Hard Ramp AS1&2

120=Gt:Heavy Drive

121=Gt:No.1 GTR AS1&2

122=Gt:Snake Finger

123=Gt:Dual Coil Blue Lead

124=Gt:Over The Top

125=Gt:Voodooman

126=Gt:Killer Whammy

127=Gt:Latin Lover

 

[PRE3]

0=Gt:Oct FuzzPedalWah FC2

1=Gt:DualCoilLeadWah FC2

2=Gt:DualCoilHarmonicsVel

3=Gt:Crunchy Guitar

4=Gt:Beater AS2

5=Gt:HIP Mute

6=Gt:Pedal Steel

7=Gt:DualCoil80sCleanMute

8=Gt:Mid Drive (2handGtr)

9=Gt:HardRocker(2handGtr)

10=Gt:ToughTube (2handGtr)

11=Gt:DriveWah (2handGtr)

12=Gt:Resonator Guitar

13=Bs:Velo Growl

14=Bs:GrooveAcoustic AF1&2

15=Bs:Upright

16=Bs:Prec Flat Wound

17=Bs:Round Wound

18=Bs:Active P

19=Bs:Mid Range Finger

20=Bs:Active TRB

21=Bs:Passive BB AF1&2

22=Bs:Vintage JB AF1&2

23=Bs:StraightFinger AF1&2

24=Bs:JB Flat Wound AF1&2

25=Bs:Finger PBs AF1

26=Bs:Prec Amped AF1

27=Bs:Finger Bass Amp AF1

28=Bs:Fret Buzzy

29=Bs:Small Cabinet

30=Bs:Simple Pick

31=Bs:Pick Open

32=Bs:Pick Mute

33=Bs:Pick Pull

34=Bs:Straight Pick AF1&2

35=Bs:Velo Bass

36=Bs:Slap Switch

37=Bs:Fretless Dry

38=Bs:Fretless Solo

39=Bs:PBassFingerDist AF1

40=Bs:Fuzz Bass AF1AS1

41=Bs:Gnarly Bass

42=Bs:BaCement

43=Bs:Dist Tama Bass

44=Bs:5th Fuzz Bass

45=Bs:Chili Bass

46=Bs:Big Cabinet

47=Bs:Hybrid Bass 1

48=Bs:Hybrid Bass 2

49=Bs:3 VCOs

50=Bs:Brain Bass AF1&2

51=Bs:Lo Boy AF1&2 AS1&2

52=Bs:Dark Bass

53=Bs:RnBass RB

54=Bs:Fundamental

55=Bs:Fat Sine Resonance

56=Bs:Moon Bass

57=Bs:More Fatty

58=Bs:Chill Out Bass AF1

59=Bs:Growler

60=Bs:Smacked

61=Bs:boooooooooom

62=Bs:Biting

63=Bs:Boogie A LegatoAF1RB

64=Bs:Uni Punch

65=Bs:Noise Bass

66=Bs:Single Oscillator

67=Bs:Unison

68=Bs:Long Spit AF2

69=Bs:Big Bass

70=Bs:Bass&Comp!

71=Bs:Rave Blade

72=Bs:Plastic Bass

73=Bs:Funky Resonance RB

74=Bs:Phat Three

75=Bs:Needle Bass

76=Bs:Acidd

77=Bs:Boom Bass AF1

78=Bs:West Coast

79=Bs:Wazzo

80=Bs:Fast PWM Bass

81=Bs:Bass Pedal

82=Bs:Oxide

83=Bs:Bowngo

84=Bs:Wide Synth Bass

85=Bs:Dry Synth Bass

86=Bs:Kick Bass Legato

87=Bs:Keep Dancin' AS2

88=Bs:Velo Master

89=Bs:Wah Bass

90=Bs:Pulse Step AF1

91=Bs:Phat Step AS1&2

92=Bs:Octave Analog

93=Bs:Sync Bass

94=Bs:Sync Big

95=Bs:Puncher AS1

96=Bs:Dark Comp AF1&2

97=Bs:Simple Bass AS2

98=Bs:Fat Sine

99=Bs:Kompressor

100=Bs:Dark Uni

101=Bs:Fight Bass

102=Bs:Byon Bass

103=Bs:One Voice

104=Bs:Pro-Attack AF1

105=Bs:Bobby Bass

106=Bs:Trance Bass AS2

107=Bs:Short Sequence Bass

108=Bs:Lately

109=Bs:Faaat Pulse

110=Bs:Short PWM Bass

111=Bs:Hyper Velocity AF1

112=Bs:Deep Point

113=Bs:Pulse Stop

114=Bs:Oh Bee Bass

115=Bs:Booming Bass

116=Bs:Army Bass

117=Bs:Punchy Drone RB

118=Bs:Dee Tune

119=Bs:Chorus Pulse

120=Bs:Sweeper

121=Bs:Old House Organ

122=Bs:Data Run

123=Bs:Sharp 3o3

124=Bs:Short 3o3 Saw

125=Ld:Acid Fun AS1

126=Bs:Compu Bass

127=Bs:Squeaker Bass

 

[PRE4]

0=St:Violin Solo 1

1=St:Violin Solo 2 AF1

2=St:Viola Solo 1

3=St:Viola Solo 2 AF1

4=St:Cello Solo

5=St:Cello Duo AF1

6=St:Contrabass Solo

7=St:Contrabass Solo2 AF1

8=St:Quartet

9=St:Small Section

10=St:Small Ensemble

11=St:Almighty

12=St:Medium Section

13=St:Medium Hall

14=St:Medium Large Section

15=St:Quick Bows

16=St:Aggressive AF1

17=St:Large Section

18=St:Octave Ensemble

19=St:Full Chamber

20=St:Stryngs

21=St:Dynamik Bow

22=St:Symphonic Pizzicato

23=St:Plucky Pizzicato

24=St:Octave Pizzes

25=St:Tremolo Strings 1

26=St:TremoloStrings Small

27=St:Spicato Large

28=St:Disco AF1

29=St:Ens Mix

30=St:Lush

31=St:Back Ground

32=St:Romantic

33=St:Warm Back

34=St:Stringy

35=St:Big Strings

36=St:PWM Strings

37=St:Mourn Strings

38=St:VP Soft

39=St:PWM Simple

40=St:Glassy Rezonant

41=St:Superstrings

42=St:Light Pad

43=St:Noble Pad

44=St:Warm Big

45=St:Sentimental

46=St:Analog Sweep

47=St:Phase Strings AS1

48=St:Octave Strings

49=St:JP Strings

50=St:3Oscillators Vintage

51=St:Silver Strings

52=St:String Machine

53=St:3 Octave Strings

54=St:Trance Introduction

55=St:Mystic Trance

56=St:F.Horn + Strings

57=St:Wood Winds + Strings

58=St:ElectricViolin AF1&2

59=St:Tron Violin

60=St:Tron Strings

61=St:Tape Strings AS2

62=St:Orchestronic

63=St:Vinyltron

64=St:Analog Strings

65=St:Analog Ensemble

66=St:Pizz-o-matic

67=St:Ambient Pizza

68=St:Beauty Harp

69=St:Stereo Harp

70=Br:Trumpet 1 AF1

71=Br:Tp Romantic Legato

72=Br:Classical Trumpet

73=Br:Baby Trumpet AF1

74=Br:Bright Trumpet AF1

75=Br:Tp Soft Jazz Legato

76=Br:Legend Mute AF1

77=Br:Jazzy Flugel AF1

78=Br:Trumpet Section

79=Br:Trombone 1 AF1

80=Br:Blown Bone Legato

81=Br:Bright Trombone AF1

82=Br:New Orleans Trombone

83=Br:French Horn AF1

84=Br:French Horn Solo

85=Br:BassTuba(Bb)

86=Br:Euphonium

87=Br:Bony Section

88=Br:French Horn Section

89=Br:F.Horn + Trombone

90=Br:F.Hrn + Trmbn + Trp

91=Br:Orchestra Brass

92=Br:Movie Horns

93=Br:Symphonic

94=Br:Smooth Brass

95=Br:SoftBrss mp-mf AF1&2

96=Br:Dynamic Brass AF1&2

97=Br:Accent mf-fall AF1&2

98=Br:Small Brass Section

99=Br:Medium Brass Section

100=Br:Lots O' Brass

101=Br:Bright Section

102=Br:Power Section

103=Br:Shiny Brass

104=Br:Big Brass AF1&2

105=Br:Sforzando AF1&2

106=Br:Soft Brass & Sax

107=Br:Big Band

108=Br:Sax Big Band

109=Br:Velo Falls

110=Br:Hybrid Section

111=Br:Hybrid Bright

112=Br:Hybrid Brass Swell

113=Br:T Brass

114=Br:Lo-fi AS1&2

115=Br:Quiet Brass

116=Br:Big Syn

117=Br:Thinth

118=Br:XP Brass Stereo

119=Br:Simple Saw Brass

120=Br:Brassy

121=Br:Kustom

122=Br:After 1984

123=Br:Finale

124=Br:Huge CS80

125=Br:CS-90

126=Br:Ob Soft

127=Br:Ob Horns

 

[PRE5]

0=Br:Slow PWM Brass

1=Br:Soft 5th Brass

2=SW:Soprano Legato

3=SW:Soprano Soft AF1

4=SW:Alto Vib Legato

5=SW:Alto Legato

6=SW:Alto

7=SW:Tenor Dynamic AF1

8=SW:Tenor Soft Legato

9=SW:Velo Growl Legato

10=SW:Tenor Growl AF1

11=SW:Baritone

12=SW:Hip Bari

13=SW:Tenor Section

14=SW:Sax Octave Section

15=SW:Mixed Sax Section

16=SW:Flute Legato

17=SW:Sweet Flute AF1

18=SW:Wood Flute

19=SW:Oboe 1 AF1

20=SW:Sweet Oboe Legato

21=SW:Oboe Soft Legato

22=SW:Clarinet 1 AF1

23=SW:JazzyClarinet Legato

24=SW:Bassoon 1 AF1

25=SW:Irish Pipe Legato

26=SW:2 Flutes

27=SW:Flute & Clari

28=SW:2 Oboes & Bassoon

29=SW:WoodWind Quartet

30=SW:Gentle Harp

31=SW:Woody Harp

32=SW:Bluz Distort

33=SW:Campfire

34=SW:Tron Flute

35=SW:Flootz

36=Ld:Huge Lead

37=Ld:Bleep Lead AF2

38=Ld:Detuned Vintage

39=Ld:Space Lead

40=Ld:Dual Square Lead

41=Ld:Vintage Sync

42=Ld:Dirty Hook

43=Ld:Nu Mini

44=Ld:ProgressiveRock Lead

45=Ld:Lucky

46=Ld:Opening

47=Ld:Rap Lead 1

48=Ld:Mini Soft

49=Ld:Feeling

50=Ld:Early Lead

51=Ld:Funky Pulse

52=Ld:Mr. Finger

53=Ld:Singleline

54=Ld:Soft RnB

55=Ld:Wind Synth

56=Ld:Broken Sine RBAS1

57=Ld:Duck Lead

58=Ld:In da Night

59=Ld:Mayday MW

60=Ld:On D Line

61=Ld:Early Soloist

62=Ld:Heterodyne

63=Ld:Classic 5th

64=Ld:Vintage Saw

65=Ld:Mini Three

66=Ld:Phat Dino

67=Ld:Dynamic Mini

68=Ld:PWM Lead

69=Ld:Pulse Wound

70=Ld:Think Sync

71=Ld:Punch Lead

72=Ld:Bright Saw

73=Ld:Trojan

74=Ld:Wood Panel

75=Ld:Push Ahead

76=Ld:Eight

77=Ld:Sync Power

78=Ld:Glisten Lead

79=Ld:Big Drone

80=Ld:Screameemy

81=Ld:Flange Filter

82=Ld:Sutra

83=Ld:Free LFO

84=Ld:Rap Lead 2

85=Ld:Space Power Lead

86=Ld:Nyquist

87=Ld:Digimetal

88=Ld:Saw destroy

89=Ld:Vinalog saw

90=Ld:Mady SQU

91=Ld:Low Undulation

92=Ld:Impact

93=Ld:Talk Mod

94=Ld:Digital Gangsta

95=Ld:Plastic Squeeze

96=Ld:Pinz Lead

97=Ld:Dancy Saw Lead

98=Ld:Buzz Around

99=Ld:Xtreme Wheel

100=Ld:Supertrance

101=Ld:Poly Hook

102=Ld:HPF Dance

103=Ld:Tekk Glide

104=Ld:Growl Tekk

105=Ld:Plucked Chordz

106=Ld:Chordz

107=Ld:Cool Body

108=Ld:Twist Sync

109=Ld:TEKIE

110=Ld:Sonix

111=Ld:Big Skid Hook Lead 1

112=Ld:Big Skid Hook Lead 2

113=Ld:Porta Queen

114=Ld:Vicious Dogs

115=Pd:Saw Pad

116=Pd:Dark Modulation Pad

117=Pd:Dark Light

118=Pd:Ambient Synthpad

119=Pd:5th Lite

120=Pd:Smooth BPF Sweep

121=Pd:High Wire

122=Pd:Trance MW

123=Pd:Xtreme Sweep

124=Pd:Nu WarmPad

125=Pd:5th Atmosphere

126=Pd:Dim

127=Pd:Simple Air

 

[PRE6]

0=Pd:Nature Sine

1=Pd:Analog

2=Pd:Perc Pad

3=Pd:Dark Atmo Pad

4=Pd:Dark Organ Pad

5=Pd:Soft Brassy

6=Pd:Road to Nowhere

7=Pd:Sweep Strings

8=Pd:Brass Motion Pad

9=Pd:Luminous

10=Pd:Mother Ship

11=Pd:Warm Backing Pad

12=Pd:Feather

13=Pd:Pan Sphere

14=Pd:Square

15=Pd:Shaper

16=Pd:Early Digital

17=Pd:Dramana

18=Pd:Dream Shift

19=Pd:Remote Space

20=Pd:Fathoms

21=Pd:SY22 2007

22=Pd:Mother Earth

23=Pd:Landing Pad

24=Pd:The Breath

25=Pd:Humanity

26=Pd:Vowel Pad

27=Pd:Feather Pad

28=Pd:Slow Attack Pad

29=Pd:Hi Brite

30=Pd:Pad & Syn

31=Pd:Cosmic Swell Pad

32=Pd:Sweet Flange

33=Pd:Waterfall

34=Pd:Phase Pad

35=Pd:Pure Synth

36=Pd:Pearls

37=Pd:Flange Wall

38=Pd:Tornado

39=Pd:Ice Rink

40=Pd:Turbulence

41=Pd:Bell Pad

42=Pd:Paradise

43=Pd:Yellow River

44=Pd:Love Me

45=Pd:Frozen Pad

46=Pd:Pensive

47=Pd:Space Vocals

48=Pd:Haah Pad

49=Pd:Oooh Pad

50=Pd:Back in Itopian

51=Pd:Strings & Choir

52=Pd:Angel Eyes

53=Pd:Glass Choir

54=Pd:Nativity

55=Pd:Seraphim

56=Pd:Analog Shine

57=Pd:Cosmic Gate

58=Pd:Catching Wild Horses

59=Pd:High Pass Gate

60=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 1

61=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 2

62=Sc:P5 Resonance Comp

63=Sc:P5 Analog Punch

64=Sc:Cool Trance

65=Sc:>Attack<

66=Sc:Club Finger

67=Sc:Wobbly RB

68=Sc:Ana Dayz

69=Sc:Airy Nylon

70=Sc:Progressive Attack

71=Sc:Oracle

72=Sc:Big Comp

73=Sc:Rezz Punch

74=Sc:Resonant Clavi

75=Sc:Straight RB

76=Sc:Psych Noise

77=Sc:Squiffy Misbehaving

78=Sc:Lektro Codes

79=Sc:Hard FM Keys

80=Sc:W Phaser

81=Sc:DPCM Attack

82=Sc:Talk

83=Sc:Digy_SEQ

84=Sc:Nerve Nasty

85=Sc:Ring_Zplus

86=Sc:Trance Attack

87=Sc:Tekno Attack AF1&2

88=Sc:PWM Percussion

89=Sc:Stabby

90=Sc:Detroit Stab

91=Sc:Corrado

92=Sc:Synthetique

93=Sc:Noiz Rezz

94=Sc:Tuxedo

95=Sc:Queens

96=Sc:Hip Voice

97=Sc:GX1

98=Sc:Night Watch

99=Sc:Pluck Bells

100=Sc:Power Dance Chords

101=Sc:Hyper Trance

102=Sc:Cosmic Psyche

103=Sc:Chillin' Chords

104=Sc:Dirty Chordz

105=Sc:Wild Horses

106=Sc:Sixpack AF1&2

107=Sc:Percussive Chords

108=Sc:Chordmaster

109=Sc:In the Mirror

110=Sc:Come together!

111=Sc:Happy Hour

112=Sc:Recycling

113=Sc:Digital Dreaming

114=Sc:Carpenter's Wife

115=Sc:Electronic Games

116=Sc:Dancing Waves

117=Sc:Hit Factory

118=Sc:Freaky Loop

119=Sc:Mr. Wah!

120=Sc:Chill Comp 1

121=Me:Chill Comp 2

122=Sc:Kalimboidal

123=Sc:Bippus

124=Sc:Virtuoso Sequencia

125=Sc:Fat Saw Arpeggio

126=Sc:Trancious Line

127=Sc:Metal Plate

 

[PRE7]

0=Sc:Fifth Dancer

1=Sc:Percussive Sequence

2=Sc:Simply Faaat

3=Sc:Bright Dance

4=Sc:Quadro Tune

5=Ld:Champ

6=Se:Men In Yellow

7=Se:Metamorphosis

8=Se:Perplex

9=Se:Outer Planet

10=Se:Industrial

11=Se:Space Walking

12=Se:Scraper

13=Se:SE_02

14=Se:Talking Machines

15=Se:Tobi Mage

16=Se:Bitzz MW

17=Se:Thexism

18=Se:In My Head

19=Se:Toda

20=Se:Water Tank

21=Se:Auto Trapeze

22=Se:Harpist's Nightmare

23=Se:Find Newgt!

24=Se:Nile River

25=Se:New Age Atmo

26=Se:Wind Blows

27=Se:Fire!

28=Se:Scratching Machine

29=Se:Goa Psyche

30=Se:Wait For Bad Weather

31=Se:Reverse The Audio

32=Se:Radio Static

33=Se:Modifier X

34=Se:Surveillance

35=Se:Noise FX

36=Se:Sample&Hold Vintage

37=Se:Lazerzz

38=Se:uhohhrr

39=Se:On The Fritz

40=Se:Scratch Thing MW

41=Se:Trash Can Lid Band

42=Se:Piston Engine

43=Se:Waka Waka Noize

44=Se:Argentina

45=Me:Gate of Eden

46=Me:Wave Journey

47=Me:Whispering Ghosts

48=Me:Nighttrain to Munich

49=Me:Morning Dew

50=Me:Calling Mr. Reso

51=Me:2 Switches to Heaven

52=Me:Cell Division

53=Me:Jumping Needle

54=Me:SEKAI-ISAN

55=Me:Setsunai AF2

56=Me:Week End

57=Se:Dragonfly

58=Me:TiRiPAD

59=Me:Cluster

60=Me:Xtreme Rezz

61=Me:Bit Space

62=Me:My Reality

63=Me:Waterproof

64=Me:Magnetics

65=Me:Sand

66=Me:Felicity

67=Me:Vibrancy

68=Me:Metalflake

69=Me:Radio Venus

70=Me:Elec Blue

71=Me:Chyo Ethno

72=Me:Metal Shaper

73=Me:Calculator

74=Me:konjoh BEAM

75=Me:Blizzard

76=Me:SINGING BOWL

77=Me:Vektris

78=Me:Metalvox Pad

79=Me:Refraction

80=Me:Philanger

81=Me:Slippery Ambience

82=Me:Ellipsotron

83=Me:Envelope

84=Me:Whatsis

85=Me:Pearl Collection

86=Me:Four Dimensions

87=Me:Hallucination

88=Me:Arctic Sequence

89=Me:Drifting

90=Me:Electraid

91=Me:Bed Time Story

92=Me:Clearing

93=Me:Long HiPa

94=Me:Quad Swell

95=Me:New Stab

96=Me:Vinyl Hit

97=Me:Hit Me

98=Me:Ambient Bite

99=Me:Green Valley

100=Me:Everlasting Glory

101=Me:Thinking of You

102=Me:Festival of Harmony

103=Me:Paris at Night

104=Me:On my Way to UK

105=Me:Chillin' Ibiza

106=Me:Heavens Door

107=Me:Cocktail

108=Me:Vanilla

109=Me:Ibiza Groove

110=Me:Nylon Chill

111=Me:Xtreme Harp

112=Me:Trancing in the Rain

113=Me:Gated Detune

114=Me:Gated Choir

115=Me:Exotic

116=Me:Syncscraper

117=Me:Ethnotic

118=Me:ComSat

119=Me:Investikator

120=Me:Monkey Bars

121=Me:Chilltrancer

122=Me:Random Beatz

123=Me:Electro Hood

124=Me:My Subwoofers

125=Me:Mister Sinister

126=Me:Polyrhythm

127=Me:Blood Flow

 

[PRE8]

0=Me:On The Verge

1=Me:Droid

2=Me:Worker Ant

3=Me:Chopp Lingo

4=Me:Vinyl Beatnik

5=Me:Drop Zone ARP

6=Me:Particle

7=Me:Simple Arp

8=Me:Cyber Cycle

9=Me:BollogPuls

10=Me:Octopus

11=Me:Electronic Beatz

12=Me:Dreamin' of You

13=Me:Brothers & Sisters

14=Me:Pizza No.1

15=Me:Electronix

16=Me:TekkNow

17=Me:Hollow Sequence

18=Me:Icicle

19=Me:Jegog

20=Me:Octo Strobe 1

21=Me:Octo Strobe 2

22=Me:Random Waves

23=Me:Semar

24=Me:Trailing Headlights

25=Me:Dream Winds

26=Et:Kemence

27=Et:Kemen Wet

28=Et:Yayli

29=Et:Kawala

30=Et:Santur

31=Et:Baglama

32=Et:Kotoun

33=Et:Kanun

34=Et:Bouzuki

35=Et:Oud Tremolo Vel

36=Et:SazFeeze

37=Et:Where Am I?

38=Et:Sakura

39=Et:Nomad

40=Et:Pluk-o-dy

41=Et:Tambura

42=Et:Sitar MW

43=Et:Tabla Zone

44=Et:Udu

45=Et:Djembe

46=Et:Dhol

47=Et:Khol

48=Et:Ney

49=Et:Zurna

50=Et:Pungi

51=Et:Shehnai 1

52=Et:Didgeridoo

53=Et:Snake Charmer

54=Et:Mythic Flute

55=Et:Ethnology

56=Et:Oztralian

57=Dr:8Z Destruct

58=Dr:8Z Jarrin

59=Dr:8Z Romps

60=Dr:8Z Glitch

61=Dr:8Z Oxidized

62=Dr:8Z D&B Machine

63=Dr:8Z Down Tempo

64=Dr:8Z Early Lo-Fi

65=Dr:8Z Noize Xpress

66=Dr:8Z Trance Basics

67=Dr:8Z Reverse Beatz

68=Dr:8Z Crush Dance

69=Dr:8Z Heavy Hearts

70=Dr:8Z Chilly Breakz

71=Dr:8Z Gated Beatz

72=Dr:8Z Hip Hop Shakers

73=Dr:8Z Blip Hop

74=Dr:8Z Nasty Glitch

75=Dr:8Z Scratch

76=Dr:8Z Tod

77=Dr:8Z Psychedelic 1

78=Dr:8Z Psychedelic 2

79=Dr:8Z Dub Element

80=Gt:Mega Nylon

81=Gt:Mega Steel

82=Gt:Mega 12 Steel

83=Gt:Mega 60s Clean

84=Gt:Mega 60s ChorusCombo

85=Gt:Mega 60s Tremolo

86=Gt:Mega 60s Blues Tone

87=Gt:Mega 60s Phaser

88=Gt:Mega 60s Tube Tone

89=Gt:Mega 60s Dist Stack

90=Gt:Mega 60s Road House

91=Gt:Mega 60s Small Blues

92=Gt:Mega 60s Pedal Wah

93=Gt:Mega 60s VCM T.Wah

94=Gt:Mega 60s T.Wah&Dist

95=Gt:Mega 60s Jet Flanger

96=Gt:Mega 1coil Clean

97=Gt:Mega 1coil Chorus

98=Gt:Mega 1coil Tremolo

99=Gt:Mega 1coil BluesTone

100=Gt:Mega 1coil Phaser

101=Gt:Mega 1coil Tube Tone

102=Gt:Mega 1coil Tube Amp1

103=Gt:Mega 1coil Tube Amp2

104=Gt:Mega 1coil Roadhouse

105=Gt:Mega 1coil VCM T.Wah

106=Gt:Mega 60s Clean Delay

107=Gt:Mega 60s Slap Clean

108=Gt:Mega 60s Slap Dist

109=Gt:Mega 1coil SlapClean

110=Gt:Mega 1coil Slap Dist

111=Gt:Mega1coilSlpPedalWah

112=Gt:Mega Ovdr Distortion

113=Gt:Mega Ovdr Fuzz

114=Bs:Mega Acoustic Bass

115=Bs:Mega Finger+Harmonic

116=Bs:Mega Fretless Bass

117=Bs:Mega Pick Open Amped

118=Bs:Mega Pick Mute Amped

119=Bs:Mega Slap Bass

120=Bs:Mega Finger+Slap

121=Bs:Mega Finger+Pull Amp

122=Bs:Mega Pick Open Mute

123=Bs:Mega Pick OpMt Dark

124=Vc:Vocoder with Delay

125=Vc:Funky Vocoder

126=Vc:Vocoder Pad 1

127=Vc:Vocoder Pad 2

 

[PRE9]

0=Pn:Natural Grand S6

1=Pn:Piano Rock S6

2=Pn:Woody Piano S6

3=Pn:Intimate S6

4=Kb:Clavi Bril Treble

5=Kb:Clavi Amped

6=Kb:Clavi Phaser

7=Kb:Clavi Touch Wah

8=Kb:Clavi PedalWah MW

9=Kb:Natural Harpsichord

10=Kb:Octave Harpsichord

11=Or:Vx Full Bars

12=Or:Vx Dark Bars

13=Or:Fr All Tabs

14=Or:Fr Bright Boost

15=Or:Fr String Tabs

16=Or:Vx Full Bars Amped

17=Or:Vx Surf Organ

18=Or:Fr Raspy Tabs

19=Or:Master Accordion

20=Or:French Musette

21=Or:Cassotto

22=Or:Tango Accordion 2

23=Cp:Vibraphone

24=Cp:Vibraphone Soft

25=Cp:Tubular Bell 2

26=Cp:Real Timpani AF2 Mfl

27=Gt:1coil Clean AF1&2

28=Gt:1coil Amped Vel

29=Gt:Vintage 1coil Chorus

30=Gt:Surfin' 60s 1coil

31=Gt:Breakback Mountain

32=Gt:Grunged Up

33=Gt:Jazz Clean AF1&2

34=Gt:Arched Top

35=Gt:Jazz Blues

36=Bs:Round Wound Finger

37=Bs:Tube Finger Bass

38=Bs:Slightly Grunged

39=Bs:Prec Pick

40=Bs:Pick Amp

41=Bs:Universal AF1&2

42=Bs:Analog Bullet Bass

43=Bs:Analog Perc Bass

44=Bs:Analog Step Bass

45=Bs:Short Buzz AF1&2

46=Bs:Bass Machine AF1

47=Bs:Deep Ramp AF1&2

48=St:Section Strings 1

49=St:Section Strings 2

50=St:Section Strings 3

51=St:Section Strings 4

52=St:Tremolo Section

53=St:Pizzicato Vel

54=St:Orchestra Harp

55=St:Harp Ambient

56=St:Gleaming Pad AF1&2

57=St:Fat PWM Synth Vel

58=St:Vintage Polystrings

59=Br:Soft Trumpet Legato

60=Br:Trumpet Vibrato

61=Br:Trumpet Shake Vel

62=Br:French Horn Section2

63=Br:Flugelhorn

64=Br:Jazz Brass Section

65=Br:Ob Syncomp

66=Br:Tacky Brass AF1&2

67=SW:Mellow Soprano

68=SW:Alto Accent Legato

69=SW:Tenor Max

70=SW:Soft TenorSax Legato

71=SW:Piccolo Legato

72=Ld:Bizz AF2

73=Ld:The Bitch AF1&2

74=Pd:Mellow Swell AF1&2

75=Pd:Frozen Glasspad

76=Pd:Lunar Eclipse AF1&2

77=Pd:Melting Steel AF1&2

78=Pd:Prayer Call

79=Pd:Bass n' Gate

80=Sc:PWM Stabs

81=Sc:Queen of Pop AF1&2

82=Sc:Multi Bell

83=Sc:Acid 'n Space AF1&2

84=Sc:Middle Ear AF1&2

85=Sc:Badger AF1&2

86=Sc:Voodoo Wah

87=Sc:Jumping Wheel AF1&2

88=Sc:Devils Wah AF1&2

89=Sc:Horizons AF1&2

90=Sc:Hypnotic AF1&2

91=Sc:Airy Buzz AF1&2

92=Sc:TranciousStepz AF1&2

93=Sc:Trilogy AF1&2

94=Sc:PWM Picks AF1&2

95=Sc:VariChord AF1&2

96=Sc:Voxdance AF1&2

97=Se:Spacewave Dancer

98=Me:Berimbau Ookawaton

99=Me:Club Telemetrix

100=Me:Venusian Rhumba

101=Me:Dripping Quarks

102=Me:Undulator

103=Me:Expanse

104=Me:Deep Motion AF1&2

105=Me:Metallic Airstabs

106=Me:Descendant

107=Me:Angel in Love

108=Me:Berlin Dreamz

109=Me:Complexions AF1&2

110=Me:Crazy Groove AF1&2

111=Me:Da Thumperz

112=Me:Meister Chilla

113=Me:X-Generator AF1&2

114=Me:GlaringMessage AF1&2

115=Et:Sitar 2

116=Et:India Harmonium

117=Et:Berimbau

118=Et:Banjo 2

119=Dr:Nu Orc Percussion

120=Dr:8Z Cajon

121=Dr:8Z Djembe

122=Dr:8Z Static

123=Dr:8Z RX11

124=Dr:8Z Trance Basics 2

125=Dr:8Z Tom Heartz

126=Gt:Mega 1coil Old R&R

127=Gt:Mega Jazz Guitar

 

[GM]

0=Pn:Concert Grand Piano

1=Pn:Rock Brite Piano

2=Pn:CP 2007

3=Pn:Honkytonk

4=Kb:E.Piano 1

5=Kb:E.Piano 2

6=Kb:Harpsichord

7=Kb:Brite Clavi

8=Cp:Celesta

9=Cp:Glocken

10=Cp:Music Box

11=Cp:Vibes

12=Cp:Marimba

13=Cp:Xylophone

14=Cp:Tubular Bell

15=Cp:Dulcimer

16=Or:Draw Organ

17=Or:Percussive Organ

18=Or:Rock Organ

19=Or:Church Organ

20=Or:Reed Organ

21=Or:Accordion

22=SW:Harmonica

23=Or:Tango Accordion

24=Gt:Nylon Guitar

25=Gt:Steel Guitar

26=Gt:Jazz Guitar

27=Gt:Clean Guitar

28=Gt:Mute Guitar

29=Gt:Overdrive Guitar

30=Gt:Distortion Guitar

31=Gt:Guitar Harmonics

32=Bs:Acoustic Bass

33=Bs:Finger Bass

34=Bs:Pick Bass

35=Bs:Fretless Bass

36=Bs:Slap Bass 1

37=Bs:Slap Bass 2 vel

38=Bs:Synth Bass 1

39=Bs:Synth Bass 2

40=St:Violin

41=St:Viola

42=St:Cello

43=St:Contrabass

44=St:Tremolo Strings 2

45=St:Pizzicato

46=St:Harp

47=Cp:Timpani + Cymbal

48=St:Strings Section 1

49=St:Strings Section 2

50=St:Synth Strings 1

51=St:Synth Strings 2

52=Pd:Aah Choir

53=Pd:Ooh Choir

54=Pd:Syn Voice

55=Me:Orchestra Hit

56=Br:Trumpet 2

57=Br:Trombone 2

58=Br:Tuba

59=Br:Mute Trumpet

60=Br:French Horns

61=Br:Brass Section

62=Br:Synth Brass 1

63=Br:Synth Brass 2

64=SW:Soprano Sax

65=SW:Alto Sax

66=SW:Tenor Sax

67=SW:Baritone Sax

68=SW:Oboe 2

69=SW:English Horn

70=SW:Bassoon 2

71=SW:Clarinet 2

72=SW:Piccolo

73=SW:Flute

74=SW:Recorder

75=SW:Panflute

76=SW:Bottle

77=SW:Shakuhachi

78=SW:Whistle

79=SW:Ocarina

80=Ld:Square Lead

81=Ld:Saw Lead

82=Ld:Calliope Lead

83=Ld:Chiff Lead

84=Ld:Charan Lead

85=Ld:Voice Lead

86=Ld:Fifth Lead

87=Ld:Bass & Lead

88=Pd:New Age Pad

89=Pd:Warm Pad

90=Pd:Poly Synth Pad

91=Pd:Choir Pad

92=Pd:Bowed Pad

93=Pd:Metal Pad

94=Pd:Halo Pad

95=Pd:Sweep Pad

96=Me:Rain Pad

97=Pd:Sound Track

98=Cp:Crystal

99=Pd:Atmosphere

100=Sc:Brightness

101=Me:Goblin

102=Me:Echoes

103=Pd:Sci-Fi

104=Et:Sitar

105=Et:Banjo

106=Et:Shamisen

107=Et:Koto

108=Cp:Kalimba

109=SW:Bagpipe

110=Et:Fiddle

111=SW:Shehnai 2

112=Cp:Tinkle Bell

113=Dr:Agogo

114=Cp:Steel Drum

115=Dr:Woodblock

116=Dr:Taiko Drum

117=Dr:Melodic Tom

118=Dr:Synth Drum

119=Se:Reverse Cymbal

120=Se:Fret Noise

121=Se:Breath Noiz

122=Se:Seashore

123=Se:Tweet

124=Se:Telephone

125=Se:Helicopter

126=Se:Applause

127=Se:Gunshot

 

[uSER1]

0=Me:Everlasting Glory

1=Dr:8Z D&B Machine

2=Ld:Chordz

3=Me:Jegog

4=Ld:Sutra

5=Sc:Simply Faaat

6=Sc:Fifth Dancer

7=Ld:Rap Lead 1

8=Dr:8Z Hip Hop Shakers

9=Me:Monkey Bars

10=Sc:Dirty Chordz

11=Ld:In da Night

12=Ld:Sonix

13=Bs:Wide Synth Bass

14=Pd:5th Atmosphere

15=Sc:Happy Hour

16=Me:Felicity

17=Dr:8Z Chilly Breakz

18=Me:Ethnotic

19=Me:Nylon Chill

20=St:Trance Introduction

21=Ld:Acid Fun AS1

22=Bs:Punchy Drone

23=Se:Outer Planet

24=Dr:8Z Heavy Hearts

25=Me:TiRiPAD

26=Sc:Freaky Loop

27=Ld:Pinz Lead

28=Ld:Dirty Hook

29=Pd:Analog

30=Me:BollogPuls

31=Me:Brothers & Sisters

32=Me:Festival of Harmony

33=Dr:8Z Blip Hop

34=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 2

35=Bs:Fight Bass

36=St:Big Strings

37=Sc:Recycling

38=Me:Ambient Bite

39=Me:Chill Comp 2

40=Dr:8Z Jarrin

41=Me:Trailing Headlights

42=Pd:Tornado

43=Ld:Plucked Chordz

44=Ld:Low Undulation

45=Me:Calculator

46=Se:Perplex

47=Me:Chilltrancer

48=Me:Hallucination

49=Dr:8Z Down Tempo

50=Pd:Ice Rink

51=Bs:Moon Bass

52=St:Silver Strings

53=Sc:Tekno Attack AF1&2

54=Sc:Trancious Line

55=Bs:Noise Bass

56=Dr:8Z Oxidized

57=Me:Trancing in the Rain

58=Me:Blizzard

59=Sc:Mr. Wah!

60=Ld:Opening

61=Sc:Virtuoso Sequencia

62=Cp:Ice Bells

63=Pd:Dim

64=Me:Heavens Door

65=Dr:8Z Dub Element

66=Cp:Nibelungen

67=Bs:Phat Step AS1&2

68=Bs:Compu Bass

69=Me:Chillin' Ibiza

70=Sc:Wobbly AS2

71=Ld:Tekk Glide

72=Dr:8Z Tod

73=Me:Vibrancy

74=Pd:Brass Motion Pad

75=Sc:Fat Saw Arpeggio

76=Ld:Pulse Wound

77=Sc:Progressive Attack

78=Sc:W Phaser

79=Ld:Xtreme Wheel

80=Me:Ibiza Groove

81=Dr:8Z Crush Dance

82=Me:Syncscraper

83=Bs:Byon Bass

84=Pd:Pensive

85=Me:Cocktail

86=Me:Drop Zone ARP

87=Me:Random Beatz

88=Dr:8Z Reverse Beatz

89=Me:TekkNow

90=Pd:Trance MW

91=Bs:Oxide

92=Ld:PWM Lead

93=Me:Thinking of You

94=Pd:Dark Atmo Pad

95=Pd:Feather

96=Me:Investikator

97=Dr:8Z Destruct

98=Sc:Lektro Codes

99=Bs:Kick Bass Legato

100=Pd:Perc Pad

101=Sc:Club Finger

102=Sc:Ring_Zplus

103=Pd:Saw Pad

104=Dr:8Z Nasty Glitch

105=Me:Slippery Ambience

106=Me:Morning Dew

107=Bs:Fat Sine Resonance

108=Bs:Pulse Step AF1

109=Pd:Oooh Pad

110=Ld:TEKIE

111=Ld:Sync Power

112=Me:Whatsis

113=Me:Cell Division

114=Me:Semar

115=Ld:Buzz Around

116=Me:Elec Blue

117=Me:Sand

118=Me:Pearl Collection

119=Me:Electro Hood

120=Dr:8Z Glitch

121=Se:Lazerzz

122=Se:On The Fritz

123=Se:Piston Engine

124=Se:Talking Machines

125=Me:Bed Time Story

126=Me:Octopus

127=Se:In My Head

 

[uSER2]

0=Pn:Rock Grand Piano

1=Or:FullDraw/CVibrato

2=Gt:Steel String AF1&2

3=Gt:Dual Coil 80s Clean

4=Bs:Finger PBs AF1

5=Kb:Marimba DX

6=Kb:R&B Soft

7=Gt:2 Electrics AF1&2

8=Pn:Old Blues

9=Or:Alternator

10=St:Medium Large Section

11=Br:Big Syn

12=SW:Tenor Dynamic AF1

13=Bs:Active P

14=Gt:Crunchy Guitar

15=Pd:Angel Eyes

16=Pn:CP 1979

17=Or:Crunchy AS2

18=Gt:Two Acoustics

19=Gt:Dynamic Amp AS1

20=Bs:Passive BB AF1&2

21=Kb:Chorus Hard

22=Kb:Vinyl EP AS1

23=Gt:Clean El & Ac 3

24=Kb:AhrAmI

25=Or:Early Bird

26=St:Spicato Large

27=Br:Ob Soft

28=SW:Woody Harp

29=Bs:Active TRB

30=Gt:Dual Coil '65

31=Pd:Back in Itopian

32=Kb:Touch Clavi

33=Or:Rocky AS2

34=Gt:Hip-Hop Steel Guitar

35=SW:Tron Flute

36=Bs:boooooooooom

37=Kb:Hipsichord

38=Kb:Vintage Case

39=Gt:Cool Drive AS1

40=Kb:Natural Wurli

41=Or:Vinyl Organ

42=St:Tape Strings AS2

43=Br:Velo Falls

44=Ld:Soft RnB

45=Bs:Army Bass

46=Gt:Dual Coil Semi Clean

47=Pd:Glass Choir

48=Kb:Hollow Clavi

49=Or:A Few Wheels

50=Gt:Mute & Slide Vel

51=Ld:Vintage Sync

52=Bs:Boom Bass AF1

53=Kb:Soft Case

54=Kb:Vintage'74

55=Gt:Crunched Up 376

56=Kb:Phaze Wurli

57=Or:Draw Control

58=St:String Machine

59=Br:Hybrid Brass Swell

60=Cp:Pop Bells & Pad MW

61=Bs:Big Bass

62=Gt:Dual Coil Slide Vel

63=Pd:Sweep Strings

64=Kb:Super Clavi

65=Or:Clean Noise

66=Gt:Killer Whammy

67=Ld:Vinalog saw

68=Bs:Fat Sine

69=Kb:Hard Vintage

70=Gt:Pedal Steel

71=Gt:Paddy Clean

72=Pn:Piano Back

73=Or:1967 Keys

74=Ld:Mady SQU

75=Sc:Carpenter's Wife

76=Gt:Voodooman

77=Bs:Dark Bass

78=Gt:Hard Drive AS1&2

79=Gt:59 Combo AF1&2

80=Kb:Vintage Clavi

81=Gt:Baby AF1

82=Gt:Light Blues AF1&2

83=Gt:DualCoil80sCleanMute

84=Bs:Fundamental

85=Ld:Poly Hook

86=Gt:Touch Wah AF1

87=Gt:Single Coil Chorus

88=Bs:5th Fuzz Bass

89=Or:Soulemn

90=Bs:PBassFingerDist AF1

91=Sc:P5 Analog Punch

92=Bs:Pick Mute

93=Bs:Dist Tama Bass

94=Gt:Hard Ramp AS1&2

95=Gt:No.1 GTR AS1&2

96=Me:Simple Arp

97=Bs:Velo Growl

98=Gt:Mid Drive (2handGtr)

99=Bs:Boogie A LegatoAF1

100=Bs:West Coast

101=Ld:Digital Gangsta

102=Bs:Growler

103=Gt:Spanky

104=Me:Electraid

105=Or:Swishie

106=St:Quick Bows

107=Sc:P5 Resonance Comp

108=Bs:Kompressor

109=Bs:Fretless Solo

110=Gt:HardRocker(2handGtr)

111=Bs:Lo Boy AF1&2 AS1&2

112=Me:Particle

113=Me:Electronic Beatz

114=Gt:Middy Tremolo

115=Me:Droid

116=Me:New Stab

117=Ld:Funky Pulse

118=Bs:Oh Bee Bass

119=Gt:Tex Boogie

120=Bs:Phat Three

121=Bs:Vintage JB AF1&2

122=Bs:Prec Flat Wound

123=Ld:Nyquist

124=Bs:Puncher AS1

125=Bs:Hybrid Bass 1

126=Gt:Hit It Hard AS2

127=Bs:Simple Bass AS2

 

[uSER3]

0=St:Large Section

1=SW:Flute Legato

2=SW:Oboe 1 AF1

3=SW:Clarinet 1 AF1

4=SW:Bassoon 1 AF1

5=Br:Classical Trumpet

6=Br:French Horn Section

7=Br:Orchestra Brass

8=St:Pizzicato

9=Cp:Timpani/Bell/Glocken

10=St:F.Horn + Strings

11=St:Wood Winds + Strings

12=Pn:Full Concert Grand

13=Kb:Hipsichord

14=St:Stereo Harp

15=Or:Church Organ

16=St:Medium Section

17=SW:2 Flutes

18=SW:Oboe Soft Legato

19=SW:Flute & Clari

20=SW:2 Oboes & Bassoon

21=St:Strings Section 1

22=Br:Sforzando AF1&2

23=Br:Big Band

24=St:Warm Back

25=Cp:Timpani + Cymbal

26=Cp:Orc Percussion

27=St:Violin Solo 2 AF1

28=St:Cello Duo AF1

29=St:Viola Solo 2 AF1

30=St:Contrabass Solo2 AF1

31=Cp:Celesta

32=St:Small Section

33=SW:Wood Flute

34=SW:Sweet Oboe Legato

35=SW:Piccolo

36=SW:English Horn

37=SW:Irish Pipe Legato

38=Br:Movie Horns

39=Br:Dynamic Brass AF1&2

40=St:Medium Hall

41=St:Warm Big

42=Or:Fluty

43=St:Octave Ensemble

44=St:Orchestronic

45=Gt:Classical AF1&2

46=Cp:Nice Bell

47=Cp:Xylophone

48=St:Ambient Pizza

49=SW:Sweet Flute AF1

50=Et:Ney

51=Et:Yayli

52=Et:Kawala

53=Et:Baglama

54=Et:Santur

55=Et:Kotoun

56=Et:Kemen Wet

57=Et:Nomad

58=Et:Sakura

59=St:3 Octave Strings

60=Pd:Nativity

61=Et:Sitar MW

62=Et:Koto

63=Cp:Glocken

64=Me:Cyber Cycle

65=Me:Dream Winds

66=Me:Dreamin' of You

67=Me:Gate of Eden

68=Me:Green Valley

69=Me:Paris at Night

70=Me:Xtreme Rezz

71=Me:Whispering Ghosts

72=Me:Worker Ant

73=Me:Wave Journey

74=Ld:Wind Synth

75=Pd:Dream Shift

76=Sc:In the Mirror

77=Pd:5th Lite

78=Ld:Glisten Lead

79=Cp:Tubular Bell

80=Ld:Feeling

81=Pd:Feather Pad

82=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 1

83=Pd:High Wire

84=Pd:Cosmic Gate

85=Pd:Seraphim

86=Pd:Space Vocals

87=Pd:The Breath

88=Et:Where Am I?

89=Cp:Music Box

90=Et:Tabla Zone

91=Et:Udu

92=Et:Djembe

93=Et:Dhol

94=Et:Khol

95=Cp:Marimba

96=Or:Tiny Combo Bars 1

97=SW:Tenor Growl AF1

98=Br:Baby Trumpet AF1

99=Ld:Early Soloist

100=Kb:Crunchy Comp

101=Or:Walking Bass

102=Gt:Fat Oil Jazz AF1&2

103=Bs:Acoustic Bass

104=Kb:Dyno Straight MW+AS2

105=Gt:Jazzy Pick

106=Or:First 3 w/Perc

107=Bs:Pick Open

108=Or:Left Manual

109=Or:Jazz 2nd Perc + C3

110=Gt:Barcelona

111=Cp:Vibes

112=Or:Harmonic Hole

113=Gt:Nylon Slide Vel

114=Bs:Bass Pedal

115=Or:Progressy

116=Gt:Sao Paulo

117=Bs:GrooveAcoustic AF1&2

118=Or:Slow Jam

119=Gt:Dual Coil Rotary

120=Or:Jazzy 2

121=Gt:Jazz Guitar

122=Br:Tp Soft Jazz Legato

123=Br:Legend Mute AF1

124=Br:Jazzy Flugel AF1

125=SW:Baritone

126=SW:Tenor Section

127=Bs:RnBass

 

[DR:PRE]

0=Dr:Power Standard Kit 1

1=Dr:Power Standard Kit 2

2=Dr:Hyper Standard Kit

3=Dr:Dry Standard Kit

4=Dr:Modern Rock Kit

5=Dr:Rock Stereo Kit 1

6=Dr:Rock Stereo Kit 2

7=Dr:Nu Hip Hop Kit 1

8=Dr:Nu Hip Hop Kit 2

9=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 1

10=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 2

11=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 3

12=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 4

13=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 1

14=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 2

15=Dr:R&B Kit 1

16=Dr:R&B Kit 2

17=Dr:R&B Kit 3

18=Dr:Trance Kit

19=Dr:Psychedelic Kit

20=Dr:Chill Out Kit

21=Dr:Brush Kit

22=Dr:Jazz Kit

23=Dr:Pop Latin Kit

24=Dr:Analog T9 Kit

25=Dr:Analog T8 Kit

26=Dr:Tekno Kit

27=Dr:House Kit 1

28=Dr:House Kit 2

29=Dr:House Compressed Kit

30=Dr:Big Kit

31=Dr:Break Kit

32=Dr:Drum'n'Bass Kit

33=Dr:Acid Kit

34=Dr:Jungle Kit

35=Dr:Electric Kit

36=Dr:Human Kit

37=Dr:Hard Kit

38=Dr:Distorted Kit

39=Dr:Ambient Kit

40=Dr:Garage Kit

41=Dr:Synth Pop Kit

42=Dr:Orchestra Kit

43=Dr:Drum Machines Kit

44=Dr:Rock Multiple Kits

45=Dr:HipHop Multiple Kits

46=Dr:Percussion Kit

47=Dr:Latin Percussion Kit

48=Dr:Guitar/Bass FX Kit

49=Dr:Wacko Kit

50=Dr:Wood Bits Kit

51=Dr:Metal Bits Kit

52=Dr:Hands Kit

53=Dr:Scratches

54=Dr:Accoustic Snares

55=Dr:GroupedStereo Snares

56=Dr:All Kicks

57=Dr:Dance Kicks

58=Dr:Arabic Mixed Kit

59=Dr:Belly Dance Kit

60=Dr:Dance Snares

61=Dr:Special SFXs

62=Dr:Synthetic Kit

63=Dr:SFX Kit

64=Dr:Maple Custom Kit

65=Dr:Oak Custom Kit

66=Dr:Nu Jazzy Kit

67=Dr:Illest Hip Hop Kit

68=Dr:PercussionMaster Kit

69=Dr:Nu Orchestra Kit

70=Dr:Japan Kit

71=Dr:Turkish Kit

 

[DR:GM]

0=Dr:Stereo GM Kit

 

[DR:USR]

0=Dr:Maple Custom Kit

1=Dr:Oak Custom Kit

2=Dr:Nu Jazzy Kit

3=Dr:Illest Hip Hop Kit

4=Dr:PercussionMaster Kit

5=Dr:Nu Orchestra Kit

6=Dr:Japan Kit

7=Dr:Turkish Kit

8=Dr:Nu Hip Hop Kit 2

9=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 1

10=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 2

11=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 3

12=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 4

13=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 1

14=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 2

15=Dr:R&B Kit 1

16=Dr:R&B Kit 2

17=Dr:R&B Kit 3

18=Dr:Trance Kit

19=Dr:Psychedelic Kit

20=Dr:Chill Out Kit

21=Dr:Brush Kit

22=Dr:Jazz Kit

23=Dr:Pop Latin Kit

24=Dr:Analog T9 Kit

25=Dr:Analog T8 Kit

26=Dr:Tekno Kit

27=Dr:House Kit 1

28=Dr:House Kit 2

29=Dr:House Compressed Kit

30=Dr:House Kit Demo

31=Dr:Wacko Kit Demo

 

; -----------------------------------------------------------

.Instrument Definitions

 

[MOXF]

Patch[8064]=PRE1

Patch[8065]=PRE2

Patch[8066]=PRE3

Patch[8067]=PRE4

Patch[8068]=PRE5

Patch[8069]=PRE6

Patch[8070]=PRE7

Patch[8071]=PRE8

Patch[8072]=PRE9

Patch[0]=GM

Patch[8073]=USER1

Patch[8074]=USER2

Patch[8075]=USER3

Patch[8096]=DR:PRE

Patch[16256]=DR:GM

Patch[8104]=DR:USR

Patch[*]=1..128

 

 

 

 

 

[franky46]

@Nils

 

thank you very much.

Hmmm, here are some PC#s for the Atelier section.

we can group them into msb-lsb banks , but the banks will not correspond to an instrument category.

With all the Atelier PC# definitions, we get a total of 17 different msb-lsb pairs aka banks.

 

is this correct? could you live with those 'wild banks' ?

 

 

======================================

# midi pc ATELIER:

# PC# MSB LSB

 

Full Organ1 00h 00h 00h

Full Organ2 02h 00h 00h

Full Organ3 04h 00h 00h

Full Organ4 01h 00h 00h

Full Organ5 03h 00h 00h

Full Organ6 05h 00h 00h

Full Organ7 20h 00h 00h

Full Organ8 20h 01h 00h

Full Organ9 20h 02h 00h

...

Piano2 4Fh 00h 00h

 

======================================

# .ins-file:

 

.Patch Names

[bank 1]

0=Full Organ1

2=Full Organ2

4=Full Organ3

1=Full Organ4

3=Full Organ5

5=Full Organ6

32=Full Organ7

79=Piano2

...

[bank 2]

32=Full Organ8

...

[bank 3]

32=Full Organ9

 

.Instrument Definitions

[Roland VR-AT]

Patch[0]=Bank 1

Patch[1]=Bank 2

Patch[2]=Bank 3

 

 

 

 

[xKnuckles]

My goodness.....the forum is still working after that marathon post!

[Nils_O]

@Nils

 

thank you very much.

Hmmm, here are some PC#s for the Atelier section.

we can group them into msb-lsb banks , but the banks will not correspond to an instrument category.

With all the Atelier PC# definitions, we get a total of 17 different msb-lsb pairs aka banks.

 

is this correct? could you live with those 'wild banks' ?

 

 

======================================

# midi pc ATELIER:

# PC# MSB LSB

 

Full Organ1 00h 00h 00h

Full Organ2 02h 00h 00h

Full Organ3 04h 00h 00h

Full Organ4 01h 00h 00h

Full Organ5 03h 00h 00h

Full Organ6 05h 00h 00h

Full Organ7 20h 00h 00h

Full Organ8 20h 01h 00h

Full Organ9 20h 02h 00h

...

Piano2 4Fh 00h 00h

 

======================================

# .ins-file:

 

.Patch Names

[bank 1]

0=Full Organ1

2=Full Organ2

4=Full Organ3

1=Full Organ4

3=Full Organ5

5=Full Organ6

32=Full Organ7

79=Piano2

...

[bank 2]

32=Full Organ8

...

[bank 3]

32=Full Organ9

 

.Instrument Definitions

[Roland VR-AT]

Patch[0]=Bank 1

Patch[1]=Bank 2

Patch[2]=Bank 3

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I think so. It would of course be better with grouping of sound type but frankly I can't even see how that could be done.

 

[franky46]

Yes, I think so. It would of course be better with grouping of sound type but frankly I can't even see how that could be done.

 

 

Hi Nils,

something interesting: these is the instr. def. list for the Roland BK09, the banks do not rely to an instrument category either. Same with BK07. It's not nice but it seems to be usual

Maybe there is a way to group sounds within the vArranger ...?

 

The list for the VR will come the next days. When will you get your VR09?

 

 

---

 

(last 2 digits is msb & lsb)

[bK-9 Bank 5 ]

5 º Crystal EP 0 5

8 º BPF-Clavi Ph 0 5

99 º Music-Bells 0 5

20 º 8+4+2 Princ 0 5

23 º BluesHrp V/S 0 5

27 º JGuitar Scat 0 5

etc...

 

 

[franky46]

 

@ Nils

the Atelier ins-File: rrr.de/~franky/upload/RolandVR-Atelier.zip

Could you please give feedback ?

 

@ all:

Pre-annoucment: feature update V-Combo Editor (should be available the next days):

- added: selector for VR-Keyboard sounds. Nice side effect: extra VR730-voices can be accessed on a VR09

- added: Sythesizer control for the GM2-Sounds (A/D/R, cutoff, resonance)

- added: "brigthness" controls for piano (general brightness and extra brightness when pressing virtual sustain-pedal)

and eventually the most usefull:

- added: basic registration for GM2-Sounds and Sound-Explorer: sounds 'discovered' with the direct bank

selectors (msb/lsb/pc#) can now be saved to (and loaded from) registrations using a custom name.

All Registrations are saved to a file and are available at next startup

Actual number of registrations is 32banks x 8patches = 256 pathches (but could be increased to 128x128 patches on demand)

- and it's free (vive l'internet libre!)

 

 

NB: the task "rearranging the VR-Keyboard registrations" is not forgotten, I think technically it's possible using the upg-files

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[WesG]

"NB: the task "rearranging the VR-Keyboard registrations" is not forgotten, I think technically it's possible using the upg-files"

 

Yes, I have done that with VR09-tools. The file format is just a header followed by a bunch of registrations. Warning, the UPG file format changed in firmware 1.11.

[Nils_O]

@ Nils

the Atelier ins-File: rrr.de/~franky/upload/RolandVR-Atelier.zip

Could you please give feedback ?

 

@ all:

Pre-annoucment: feature update V-Combo Editor (should be available the next days):

- added: selector for VR-Keyboard sounds. Nice side effect: extra VR730-voices can be accessed on a VR09

- added: Sythesizer control for the GM2-Sounds (A/D/R, cutoff, resonance)

- added: "brigthness" controls for piano (general brightness and extra brightness when pressing virtual sustain-pedal)

and eventually the most usefull:

- added: basic registration for GM2-Sounds and Sound-Explorer: sounds 'discovered' with the direct bank

selectors (msb/lsb/pc#) can now be saved to (and loaded from) registrations using a custom name.

All Registrations are saved to a file and are available at next startup

Actual number of registrations is 32banks x 8patches = 256 pathches (but could be increased to 128x128 patches on demand)

- and it's free (vive l'internet libre!)

 

 

NB: the task "rearranging the VR-Keyboard registrations" is not forgotten, I think technically it's possible using the upg-files

 

 

Hi!

 

Great Thanks I had a look. I first opened with notepad and everything was in a long row. Then opened in wordpad and it was readable.

 

How was the number determined for

0=Drm:STANDARD etc...

I was looking in midi implementation (both Atlier and VR-09) and there is says

LSB 120 (CC32) MSB 0 (CC0).

It also says 1 should med added to the numbers.

1=Drm:STANDARD

9=Drm:ROOM

etc...

So what is correct?

Then

0=Prc:PERC SET 1

etc...

I only find it in the Aterlier implementation and its the correct number but I don't understand how it is not in conflict

0=Org:Full Organ1 from the beginning?

I haven't really hade the time to check much more yet. I noticed that it's the same voice numbers as (you could have expected) in Atliers so I guess the file should be usable for the Ateliers Organs to.

 

 

My plan was a complete .ins file to be able to select all sounds both VR-09 and Ateliers. And then there a a couple of effect settings that should preferable be added. I see there a effect control in the CTRLR script.

But it seems to be a lot of work to get it complete. And how effect control is added in the file I don't know. I have to read up more on how these files are done.

How did you extract the vocide numbers and names?

In the Atlier midi implementation I'm unfortunately not able to mark and copy so to add something from that manaul the only option seems to be to write it oneself.

 

I haven't got the VR-09 yet. I was thinking between the VR-730 but I think it's not worth the added cost.

I have however bought the VArranger. I have just made a small test yet with a sound module I have. It has actually been laying arround for a while due to to much work. I will mess arround with it a bit.

I think a complete file for VR series should be a really great thing. Actally I don't know if a GM2 set is needed in the .ins file for VArranger. The number should be standard I guess. Have to check it.

 

Thanks

 

 

[franky46]

...

 

Hi Nils, thank you very much for giving feedback !I hop this will answer your questions:

 

> I first opened with notepad and everything was in a long row. Then opened in wordpad and it was readable

 

I'll change this (this is due to the use of unix tools)

 

> It also says 1 should med added to the numbers.

 

subtile difference between program change address (PC) and program change number (PC#), example Pop Kit 4:

 

PC# MSB LSB

4(03h) 1(01h) 0(00h)

 

when you compare the digital and the hex number (h like hex) of the PC# value, you see that "digital" = "hex + 1" <=> 4 = 03h+1.

The digital number represents the program change _number_, a kind of 'index' or id.

The hex number represents the program change _address_, e.g. the real midi address.

E.g. program change number (or short 'program change') "6" has the address "5" etc.

Program change numbers go from 1 to 128

Program change addresses go from 0 to 127

As I learned from your example, .ins file is using the range 0..127 thus the _address_ (which equals the number minus 1)

The values in the Atelier.ins file should be correct.

 

> 0=Drm:STANDARD etc... [...] and there is says LSB 120 (CC32) MSB 0 (CC0).

 

Atelier organs have 3 'midi interfaces':

The instrument-dependent Atelier (AT) sounds and the machine-independent standards General-Midi-2 (GM2) and GS (Roland standard):

Example : "STANDARD-2" drum kit : pay attention on the order of the LSB/MSB/PC/PC# numbers:

 

1. AT: PC MSB LSB = 00h 00h 40h

2. GM2: MSB LSB PC# = 0 120 1

3. GS: MSB LSB PC# = 0 64 1

 

with 40H = 64 and PC#=1 == PC=0 you see that AT is the same as GS.

 

When you wrote "LSB 120 (CC32) MSB 0 (CC0)" then its a typo for sure, it should mean "MSB 120 (CC0) LSB 0 (CC32)" and this is the GM2-interface.

In our case, the .ins file addresses the machine dependent "AT" sounds.

 

 

> but I don't understand how it is not in conflict

> 0=Org:Full Organ1 from the beginning?

 

Wow, I was not aware of this, this is a big issue as the V-Combo Editor uses the same midi values.

 

I tested the V-Editor 'ATELIER' section drums and indeed, the selection of any drumit loads an instrument sound (organ, strings...)

 

It seems that Atelier Organs use a special addressing of their drum kit generators.

I'll try to find out the trick (though the Atelier world seems hermetically closed for outsiders...)

 

 

> In the Atlier midi implementation I'm unfortunately not able to mark and copy

oh yeah use a pdf-Reader like Sumatra PDF (fast and extremly lightweight) or Foxit

 

I copy-paste the sound midi tables to a text file and use unix (shell) scripts to process the file

If you need mass processing of data, just ask me.

 

> I haven't got the VR-09 yet. I was thinking between the VR-730 but I think it's not worth the added cost.

 

It's all about the keybed. If it's the same bed as in the VR700/730 Roland this can be a game changer.

If you go for the VR09 you can save money by getting an end of stock VR09 without 'b' and do the firmware upgrade.

 

> I think a complete file for VR series should be a really great thing.

 

don't worry, we'll get this thing working

 

f

 

 

[franky46]

Warning, the UPG file format changed in firmware 1.11.

 

thanks a lot for pointing this out, Wes!

found an additional 20 byte array (expr. pedal?) in the header of each registration patch.

obviously there is byte giving the header length (80 for the old, 100 since v.1.11/13), so we can make this compatible

 

 

 

 

 

 

[franky46]

 

I only find it in the Aterlier implementation and its the correct number but I don't understand how it is not in conflict

0=Org:Full Organ1 from the beginning?

 

found the thinking error, sorry, totally ignored the VR-drum section. Yet another thing to implement

 

to explain: if you send progam changes (sound patterns) to the VR for the VR-inherent sounds, you use SysEx messages (different from addressing GM2-sounds using dedicated midi channels).

That's what the panel does and also VArranger has to do.

 

To load the sound to a dedicated 'voice' (upper manual, lower manual, dual etc) a special SysEx prefix is used:

 

F0 41 10 62 12 01 01 ..... Upper Manual "VCE-voice"

F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 ..... Upper Manual "SYN-voice"

etc

 

and there is one particular voice only for drums:

F0 41 10 62 12 01 41 01 ......

 

this solves the problem of redundancy / conflicts:

 

here's a new file for you where 'Drums' is an 'instrument' by itself : http://rrr.de/~franky/upload/RolandVR09Atelier.zip

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

[nadroj]

Question re the editor app. I see the app essentially gives you access to the SN synth. Could someone use it to create a 3 part synth sound (3 partials) then save the sound to the VR to be used without the iPad?

[franky46]

 

V-Combo Editor v1.12(3) : http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor/

 

Pre-annoucment: feature update V-Combo Editor (should be available the next days):

- added: selector for VR-Keyboard sounds. Nice side effect: extra VR730-voices can be accessed on a VR09

- added: Sythesizer control for the GM2-Sounds (A/D/R, cutoff, resonance)

- added: "brigthness" controls for piano (general brightness and extra brightness when pressing virtual sustain-pedal)

and eventually the most usefull:

- added: basic registration for GM2-Sounds and Sound-Explorer: sounds 'discovered' with the direct bank

selectors (msb/lsb/pc#) can now be saved to (and loaded from) registrations using a custom name.

All Registrations are saved to a file and are available at next startup

Actual number of registrations is 32banks x 8patches = 256 pathches (but could be increased to 128x128 patches on demand)

 

 

[EscapeRocks]

Hey all. I am new to the ctrlr stuff.

 

I downloaded the .dmg to my Macbook Pro, and then downloaded frank46 excellent editor.

 

It works great on my Mac! So much easier than using my iPad with CCK.

 

Here's a screenshot:

 

 

[franky46]

Hey all. I am new to the ctrlr stuff.

 

I downloaded the .dmg to my Macbook Pro, and then downloaded frank46 excellent editor.

 

It works great on my Mac! So much easier than using my iPad with CCK.

 

 

 

 

hi,

 

there's a fast fix for the cutted off panel workspace, please repeat the download of v1.12.3.

 

We have no possibility at home to test the panel on IOS:

is the register save/load in SoundExplorer/GM2 working and is the file correctly saved (Documents-folder)?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EscapeRocks]

Hey all. I am new to the ctrlr stuff.

 

I downloaded the .dmg to my Macbook Pro, and then downloaded frank46 excellent editor.

 

It works great on my Mac! So much easier than using my iPad with CCK.

 

 

 

 

hi,

 

there's a fast fix for the cutted off panel workspace, please repeat the download of v1.12.3.

 

We have no possibility at home to test the panel on IOS:

is the register save/load in SoundExplorer/GM2 working and is the file correctly saved (Documents-folder)?

 

 

I haven't tested it that far yet. I will let you know

 

[EscapeRocks]

 

hi,

We have no possibility at home to test the panel on IOS:

is the register save/load in SoundExplorer/GM2 working and is the file correctly saved (Documents-folder)?

 

Yes, this works!

 

[EscapeRocks]

Hey all. A little help from the experts. I am teaching myself how to decipher Sysex based on the implementation chart for the VR09, especially as it applies to the Registrations.

 

The following is what I get when I select Reg Bank 1-1 "Long Division"

 

Roland 13 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 01 59 01 00 22 F7 JP8 Brass lower part

Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 65 01 17 F7

Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 00 00 7D F7

 

Roland 13 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 01 2C 0D 00 42 F7 Syn Strings1 upper part

Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 65 01 16 F7

Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 00 00 7C F7

 

 

I put the tone name to the right.

 

After the first 5 of 13 bytes; I believe this shows the address with offset, then the PC, MSB, LSB.

That's why the JP8 Brass, in this case, is the lower part (offset 2).

 

Am I right so far?

 

Can I use the info to send the VR09 a sysex command to call up a registration?

I am able to send Sysex.

 

I am still figuring out what the associated 11byte lines define for the tones.

 

Thank in advance.

[franky46]

*edit* aaaah, I hate this f***ing auto formatting forums ... I'my sorry you have to 'imagine' the '....' are spaces.

 

 

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Hey all.

 

Hi,

first of all thanks for checking the McOS folder path

 

> That's why the JP8 Brass, in this case, is the lower part (offset 2).

 

02 is not the lower part, it's the upper part "no. 2". Let's break it up:

 

F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 01 59 01 00 22 F7 =>

F0 41 10 62 12..: prefix (sysex start byte, sound engine ID ...)

01 02...........: midi manual p 11 "offset": 01 02 00 | Upper Part Information (SYNTH DUAL2)

01..............: midi manual p11 "upper part information": 00 01 | 0aaa aaaa | TONE NUMBER [you take only the 2nd byte]

59 01 00........: pc, msb, lsb

22..............: roland checksum

F7..............: sysex end byte

 

 

you must regard the offsets as a "classical summation"

 

| 01 02 00 | Upper Part Information (SYNTH DUAL2) |........<= section 'Start'

| .. 00 01 | 0aaa aaaa | TONE NUMBER.......................<= section "upper part information"

------------

| 02 02 01 | ......... <= "sum"

 

 

> Can I use the info to send the VR09 a sysex command to call up a registration?

 

If you mean the 25x4 "registration sets": no, unless there is an undocumented thus unkown sysex, it's not possible (something critisised on the VR09).

You can only load individual 'sound' patches , e.g. like the editor app does

 

> I am still figuring out what the associated 11byte lines define for the tones

e.g.:

F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 65 01 17 F7 =>

F0 41 10 62 12....: prefix

01 02.............: midi manual p 11: 01 02 00 | Upper Part Information (SYNTH DUAL2)

65 01.............: undocumented. Guess 65 references the size in bytes of the whole section "Upper Part Information". You can use this number when requesting a sysex dumb

17 F7.............: checksum + sysex end

 

now you should be able to identify the other sysex

 

f[/font]

[franky46]

V-Combo Editor Update v1.12.4:

 

+ : upg-Registration-Editor: the VR registrations can now be edited using the the upg-files (the files where reg. sets are saved to and load from usb dongle). Registrations can be ordered, renamed, copied and merged with other sets.

+ VR DRUM section added

+ improved working area (e.g. indication of sound names in the voice selectors)

+ improved feedback from VR.

+ many Bugfixes

 

download: http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

 

video tutorial:

[video:youtube]

 

 

[WesG]

Nicely done, Franky!

[AnotherScott]

V-Combo Editor Update v1.12.4:

 

+ : upg-Registration-Editor: the VR registrations can now be edited using the the upg-files (the files where reg. sets are saved to and load from usb dongle). Registrations can be ordered, renamed, copied and merged with other sets.

Can registrations be selected in real time from the iPad screen, i.e. to change sounds mid-song?