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#2895660 - 12/13/17 10:41 AM Travel guitar,
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Will be doing a lot of traveling next year and need some recommendations on a acoustic travel guitar. The leader right now is the Martin backpacker.

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#2895670 - 12/13/17 11:46 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: surfergirl]
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WELCOME [A BOARD]! SURFER GIRL! I would take a look at the Taylor GS mini for $499. Comes with a pickup for plugging in. Surf's Up! cool
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#2895709 - 12/13/17 02:47 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Larryz]
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I second that welcome Surfergirl.

I must say though, that Martin Backpacker must have improved a LOT since I last tried one out if it's the current leader of the pack.

Keep us posted on any finds. smile
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#2895713 - 12/13/17 02:57 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Larryz]
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Hey, glad to see ya, SG, we can always use some new views here !

Looking for steel or nylon string ?
Full size or mini ?

Can't offer you any direct comments from use but I've seen a few options that may be less expensive &/or smaller.
Seen these ?

http://www.ibanez.com/products/ag_detail...&color=CL01

& if price isn't a factor there are some acoustics down the page here
https://travelerguitar.com/acoustic/

& a few more
http://www.guitaradventures.com/top-5-best-travel-guitars

Where ya bound ?
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#2895740 - 12/13/17 04:24 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: d]
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Thank you Larryz and d. I like the Ibanez. It's the right size, I have to be able to carry it on. The taylor is little larger. I like Ibenaz because it looks like a guitar, unlike the backpackers.
As to where I'm going, Everywhere except Antartica. I will be joining the WSL qualifying tour in June.


Edited by surfergirl (12/13/17 07:10 PM)

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#2895769 - 12/13/17 06:41 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: surfergirl]
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Edited by Dannyalcatraz (12/13/17 06:53 PM)
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#2895784 - 12/13/17 07:31 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Some interesting choices, I like the folding neck. Not sure I like carbon fiber. I would have to try one first. My budget is about $300.
My bad it's WSL, World Surfing League. For some reason I keep calling it tour, because it really is a tour.


Edited by surfergirl (12/13/17 07:35 PM)

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#2895792 - 12/13/17 08:02 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: surfergirl]
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Originally Posted By: surfergirl
Thank you Larryz and d. I like the Ibanez. It's the right size, I have to be able to carry it on. The taylor is little larger. I like Ibenaz because it looks like a guitar, unlike the backpackers.
As to where I'm going, Everywhere except Antartica. I will be joining the WSL qualifying tour in June.


Safe Travels! Having a beach fire and an acoustic guitar at night with the surf rolling in, is some of the best times I've ever had! That water in Antarctica does get a little cold LOL! thu
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#2895799 - 12/13/17 08:35 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Larryz]
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Cool!

Carbon fiber guitars tend towards the bright side, but that’s not universally true. They’re tough, though. If I had the $$$ and wanted a near indestructible travel guitar, the Blackbird Rider is probably the one I’d buy, shape be damned.
https://www.blackbirdguitar.com/collections/guitars/products/rider-steel-string


The CA Cargo would be #2:


Not cheap, either one, but I’d consider that price an investment in peace of mind.

Some more options:
https://reverb.com/item/6280096-applause-aa12-1970s-brown-burgendy

https://reverb.com/item/7658596-crafter-...-body-good-tone


Edited by Dannyalcatraz (12/13/17 08:50 PM)
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#2895825 - 12/14/17 01:53 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Forgot about this Emerald:



Edit: the X7 is the current version of the travel model. This is the basic version at just under $1k and they go up from there.
http://emeraldguitars.com/product/x7-opus/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

http://emeraldguitars.com/product-catego...;v=3e8d115eb4b3


Edited by Dannyalcatraz (12/14/17 02:06 AM)
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#2895929 - 12/14/17 10:32 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Carbon fiber would make since and maybe cheaper in the long run, since it will exposed to lots of different climates abd abuse. I'm sure I can convince my mother tho.

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#2895936 - 12/14/17 10:52 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: surfergirl]
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Carbon fiber is impervious to weather. You could leave it outside in all kinds of conditions. Not cheap though. My only experience with it is working with a cellist who had a carbon fiber cello for touring. In the hall it sounded pretty decent. Up close it was apparent that it didn't have the warmth of wood, but through the PA system it worked fine. Not sure if that is the same at all for a carbon fiber guitar. The videos I've heard sounded good.
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#2895942 - 12/14/17 11:42 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I’d be willing to spend that kind of money for a guitar that was going to be exposed to sea winds, spray, sand, heat, smoke, baggage handlers, drunks and whatever, and the only worry I’d have is whether the electronics would stand up.

Check ebay or reverb.com to see if you can find a used one. Maybe someone bought one and decided not to travel as much.
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#2896054 - 12/15/17 04:30 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
I’d be willing to spend that kind of money for a guitar that was going to be exposed to sea winds, spray, sand, heat, smoke, baggage handlers, drunks and whatever, and the only worry I’d have is whether the electronics would stand up.


But as the young lady was asking about an ACOUSTIC travel guitar, well........if those others sound good UNPLUGGED, they MIGHT be a consideration.....
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#2896091 - 12/15/17 08:19 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: whitefang]
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As I recall, like many acoustic guitars these days, most of those guitars have onboard piezoelectric systems.

The few CF guitars I’ve tried- all full size- sounded good. I haven’t touched a travel guitar since I tried the (recently introduced) Martin Backpacker, and was disappointed.


Edited by Dannyalcatraz (12/15/17 08:21 AM)
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#2896109 - 12/15/17 09:37 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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I'm not a fan of the small travel guitars (especially the folding ones). I do love the smaller Parlor guitars though... cool
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#2896119 - 12/15/17 10:29 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Larryz]
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Will be doing a lot of traveling next year and need some recommendations on a acoustic travel guitar. The leader right now is the Martin backpacker.


I was a surfer back in the day, and also a guitar player, I used to travel with an Ovation Balladeer acoustic guitar. It is not that small but it has a composite body which will take the humidity of the ocean environment pretty well. I surfed the east and west coasts of the USA, and even did a little surfing on Kauai one time. We (my two sons and I) stayed at a campground near Haena on the very north side of the Island back in the early 1970's. One night someone broke into my car, and stole all of the cash in my wallet. Thankfully they did not take my credit cards and drivers license. It also cost me $80 to pay for the window he broke on the rental car.

I have a friend who winters and has a home on Oahu, also a guitar and mandolin player. He plays in a bluegrass band over there in places out as well.
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#2896143 - 12/15/17 01:06 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Originally Posted By: Scott Fraser
Carbon fiber is impervious to weather. You could leave it outside in all kinds of conditions. Not cheap though. My only experience with it is working with a cellist who had a carbon fiber cello for touring. In the hall it sounded pretty decent. Up close it was apparent that it didn't have the warmth of wood, but through the PA system it worked fine. Not sure if that is the same at all for a carbon fiber guitar. The videos I've heard sounded good.


I'd suggest that the timbral qualities for any instrument would be similar per material but in a case where convenience & portability are the main concerns that mayn't matter.


For those interested in some of the technical aspects here are some options for investigation:

https://www.google.com/search?ei=LjM0Wo-7HsSxmQHHwqHQBA&q=carbon+fiber+musical+instruments&oq=carbon+fiber+musical+instruments&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30k1.2569.9550.0.10047.20.8.0.12.12.0.93.580.8.8.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.20.620...0i20i264k1j0i67k1j0i131k1.0.EFk922ohyp4

http://stringsmagazine.com/a-buyers-guide-to-carbon-fiber-instruments

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/wood-vs-carbon-fiber-vs-hpl-can-you-tell-difference

http://www.guitaradventures.com/carbon-fiber-guitars-pros-vs-cons
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#2896174 - 12/15/17 03:51 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: surfergirl]
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Hi surfergirl, welcome.
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#2896177 - 12/15/17 04:12 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: JuJu Kwan]
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Gotta side with the CF camp. Surfing weather is not always kind to wood.
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#2896180 - 12/15/17 05:07 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: desertbluesman]
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Originally Posted By: desertbluesman
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Will be doing a lot of traveling next year and need some recommendations on a acoustic travel guitar. The leader right now is the Martin backpacker.


I was a surfer back in the day, and also a guitar player, I used to travel with an Ovation Balladeer acoustic guitar. It is not that small but it has a composite body which will take the humidity of the ocean environment pretty well. I surfed the east and west coasts of the USA, and even did a little surfing on Kauai one time. We (my two sons and I) stayed at a campground near Haena on the very north side of the Island back in the early 1970's. One night someone broke into my car, and stole all of the cash in my wallet. Thankfully they did not take my credit cards and drivers license. It also cost me $80 to pay for the window he broke on the rental car.

I have a friend who winters and has a home on Oahu, also a guitar and mandolin player. He plays in a bluegrass band over there in places out as well.


Ovation would be my next choice. I have one, and it has been trouble free for more than 20 years. Don't know that they make any travel guitars, though.


Edited by Dannyalcatraz (12/15/17 05:08 PM)
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#2896190 - 12/15/17 06:15 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Carbon fiber also looks good for withstanding the humidity.
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#2896266 - 12/16/17 12:10 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: desertbluesman]
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Regarding relative prices one might consider a used instrument....
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#2896363 - 12/17/17 07:37 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: d]
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Hi Surfergirl. Good to have you with us!

My first thought is that you might want to view this travel Guitar as a long-term investment, rather than a temporary fix. If you expect to travel often, you're going to want a good-quality Guitar for the long haul.

I used to sell the Martin Backpackers, both the Steel-string and Nylon-string models. The compact size was really the only thing they had going for them. Can't really recommend one, especially if you're traveling in rough weather, and high humidity. Yes, they're more affordable than a lot of the other recommendations, but they're not a good value.

While I've long been a fan of Ovation Guitars - my black 1867 Legend is my main A/E - one issue with Ovations is that the wood top and the synthetic bowl behave differently when exposed to the elements. Traveling between extremes of humidity and dryness, heat and cold, the tops can separate from the bowls; this is even more the case with the import Celebrity models, which still say "Ovation" on the headstock; the label inside the sound hole will say "Celebrity". Any affordable Ovation (say, under $500) is likely to be a Celebrity model, and probably not the best choice.

Carbon Fiber will stand up to almost anything you're likely to encounter. While it's not the least expensive option, it's probably the best, for your purposes. Good hunting!


Edited by Winston Psmith (12/17/17 07:38 AM)
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#2896400 - 12/17/17 10:44 AM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Winston Psmith]
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[quote=Winston Psmith]My first thought is that you might want to view this travel Guitar as a long-term investment, rather than a temporary fix. If you expect to travel often, you're going to want a good-quality Guitar for the long haul./quote]

Typically excellent advice from WP but I offer the opposite thought.
One may not be selecting a life-long guitar but one for a Southern hemisphere's summer's adventure as a young person.
In that regard you might buy any number of less costly instruments for the price of a single semi-pro level gtr.
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#2896470 - 12/17/17 02:39 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: d]
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Applause (Ovation) had a good selection of decent quality junior acoustics that are widely available. The going price is $200 or less.
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#2896476 - 12/17/17 03:08 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Winston Psmith]
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Originally Posted By: Winston Psmith
Hi Surfergirl. Good to have you with us!

My first thought is that you might want to view this travel Guitar as a long-term investment, rather than a temporary fix. If you expect to travel often, you're going to want a good-quality Guitar for the long haul.

I used to sell the Martin Backpackers, both the Steel-string and Nylon-string models. The compact size was really the only thing they had going for them. Can't really recommend one, especially if you're traveling in rough weather, and high humidity. Yes, they're more affordable than a lot of the other recommendations, but they're not a good value.

While I've long been a fan of Ovation Guitars - my black 1867 Legend is my main A/E - one issue with Ovations is that the wood top and the synthetic bowl behave differently when exposed to the elements. Traveling between extremes of humidity and dryness, heat and cold, the tops can separate from the bowls; this is even more the case with the import Celebrity models, which still say "Ovation" on the headstock; the label inside the sound hole will say "Celebrity". Any affordable Ovation (say, under $500) is likely to be a Celebrity model, and probably not the best choice.

Carbon Fiber will stand up to almost anything you're likely to encounter. While it's not the least expensive option, it's probably the best, for your purposes. Good hunting!


Excellent point about climate. My Ovation has been trouble free for decades...but I don’t travel with it.
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#2898361 - 12/28/17 01:19 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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I've decided not to take a guitar with me. I will only be out 6 to 8 weeks this year, since I won't start till June, and maybe 12 next year. A guitar which will get very little use doesn't seem like a good investment.

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#2898365 - 12/28/17 01:51 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: surfergirl]
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That is a fair point of view.

(And if leaves more room in the luggage for souvenirs...)


Edited by Dannyalcatraz (12/28/17 01:52 PM)
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#2898368 - 12/28/17 02:10 PM Re: Travel guitar, [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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