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#2895241 - 12/11/17 05:06 PM Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation)
Geoff Grace Offline
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As most of you know, the 2018 Winter NAMM Show will begin Thursday, January 25th at the Anaheim Convention Center, and run through Sunday, the 28th. This year, I've decided to create three threads: 1) an advance thread for speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements, or "NAMMticipation" as I like to call it, 2) an advance thread for planning: how to get passes, when and where to meet up with other forum members, etc., and 3) the traditional NAMM Reports thread for product announcements, videos, and reports from members on what and who they saw at the Convention Center.

This, of course, is the advance NAMMticipation thread.

Please post any Winter NAMM 2018 speculation, wish lists, and early product announcements here.

As for me, I'm hoping that Native Instruments will announce a Komplete Kontrol S88 MK2 keyboard. It certainly seems like an eventuality, and Winter NAMM would be a great time to take the wraps off.

Best,

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#2895389 - 12/12/17 09:40 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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My wish list:

updated controllers:
Kawai - VPC-2, with GF or GF-2 action and Bluetooth
Studiologic - an organ controller, a cross between the Nord Compact 2 and the Nord Organ 2, with decent screen and no inverted keys
Novation - something to replace the SL MkII
Arturia - a Keylab Pro or something to take the high end above the Keylab essential
Crumar/Mojo - a single manual controller utilizing the TP-8O 73 action

updated stage pianos:
Yamaha - update to the CP4 that can match up to the RD-2000
Casio - update to the PX-5S

software:
Apple - Logic Pro XI
Mainstage 4, also available for iPad
Pianoteq for iPad

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#2895391 - 12/12/17 09:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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YES!

Thank you, Geoff!
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#2895411 - 12/12/17 10:22 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Wish List:

Roland SuperNatural-based virtual instrument software. Something similar to what Yamaha did with Steinberg Halion Sonic (spring-boarding somewhat from the core Motif library, but instead with SN).

Korg PlugKey 2: Expand slightly on the original PlugKey concept, adding full-size USB A and B ports, plus aux 1/4" L/R inputs.

Behringer OB-Xa derivative instrument. I'd go for the module.

NordAmp, for keys: Take the mixing concept of the Roland KC series, combine it with the design of a high-quality, powered speaker. In keeping with their keyboard design, Clavia would make it compact, fairly light, and red..

Yamaha Montage derivative, designed for performance. No pattern-based stuff, limited Motion-Sound engine (if at all..), streamlined arpeggiator, 4-zone control via USB/MIDI, Advanced AWM engine with 6-OP FM (or Reface 'Pro' engine), practical front-panel controls for stage and Studio, simplified and intuitive design..

Hammond XM-5, with drawbars built-in. A Hammond tabletop is waaaayy overdue..
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#2895412 - 12/12/17 10:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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This, being December, is my "I don't think I'll go this year" period. It will last until about the first week in January, when I hit my, "OK, maybe, if I have a day off" period. The second week is my "You know, it's usually a pretty good networking day" stage. By week three, right before the conference, I'm solidly in my, "MUST ATTEND NOW!!!!" stage.
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#2895414 - 12/12/17 10:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: allan_evett]
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A CP4 with very good internal speakers. It can be modeled after the CP300 - heavy/ beefy build quality - but that's ok as it would be for the office not gigs.

Something along the line of the MP11 that would straddle the category of semi-portable stage piano and home use. An even more weighted/substantial action (like the Kawai) would be an even more welcome addition.
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#2895444 - 12/12/17 12:32 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Thanks Geoff, anticipation indeed.

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#2895597 - 12/13/17 06:03 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Fleer]
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Hi,
A replacement for the Casio PX5-S stage piano.
It's been four years now, so I'm really hoping for something.
Chris

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#2895613 - 12/13/17 07:22 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: chelsea4023]
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Either a new PX5-S with better piano and organ samples and/or a new CP-4 with String Resonance would make me happy. GAS for the SP-6 may just get to me....but I will hold out till I see what Casio and Yamaha are going to come up with if anything!


Edited by Legatoboy (12/13/17 11:49 AM)
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#2895617 - 12/13/17 07:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Legatoboy]
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The mystery Korg "game changer/whatever" synth - the one that starts with a P and is 8 English letters long. I probably won't want it but I'm curious as to what it will turn out to be.

A mixer with 3 aux sends, class compliant USB audio with more than 2 I/O channels, not much larger than my Mackie VLZ 1202, can be configured without a computer.
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#2895627 - 12/13/17 08:18 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: allan_evett]
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Originally Posted By: allan_evett
Behringer OB-Xa derivative instrument. I'd go for the module.

Yamaha Montage derivative, designed for performance. No pattern-based stuff, limited Motion-Sound engine (if at all..), streamlined arpeggiator, 4-zone control via USB/MIDI, Advanced AWM engine with 6-OP FM (or Reface 'Pro' engine), practical front-panel controls for stage and Studio, simplified and intuitive design..


These two for me. plus:

(1) A midi patchbay (like the MOTUs) that accepts 5pin midi and USB. So you can patch your synths with less cables. Sure, you can do this from the Mac, but will like to be able to do this without the computer.
(2) A table top korg analog, based on the minilogue with more modulation capabilities.
(3) Roland rethinks their boutique line. I like the concept, but they don't have to be that small, and eliminate those ribbons witch stake away panel space.
(4) iOS Korg Z1
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#2895629 - 12/13/17 08:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rod S]
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Speaking of Behringer, somebody found this page, which lists clones of SH-101, Wasp, CAT, 2600, VCS3


Edited by GovernorSilver (12/13/17 08:32 AM)
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#2895647 - 12/13/17 09:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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Originally Posted By: tfort
My wish list:

updated controllers:
Kawai - VPC-2, with GF or GF-2 action and Bluetooth
Studiologic - an organ controller, a cross between the Nord Compact 2 and the Nord Organ 2, with decent screen and no inverted keys
Novation - something to replace the SL MkII
Arturia - a Keylab Pro or something to take the high end above the Keylab essential
Crumar/Mojo - a single manual controller utilizing the TP-8O 73 action

updated stage pianos:
Yamaha - update to the CP4 that can match up to the RD-2000
Casio - update to the PX-5S

software:
Apple - Logic Pro XI
Mainstage 4, also available for iPad
Pianoteq for iPad


I forgot to add to my controllers wish list:
Roland - an update to the Roland A-Pro series controllers. They were released at NAMM in 2010, 8 years ought to be enough time?


PS - How long are we allowed to edit a post? I did a quick search and found something that said a week, but that appears to not be the case.

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#2895648 - 12/13/17 10:02 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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I'd want a tos interface which interfaces with Linux for digital audio in and out to 'boards and effect equipment for very little money.

It has to transfer data a bit accurate and sync to a tos input.

Something so simple for 24 bits 96 kHz should be cheap like 20 or so...

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#2895658 - 12/13/17 10:22 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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1. A Kronos Rack for the sounds without the beast
2. More 8 to 12ch mixers with 4x4 or more USB. The 10ch Allen&Heath Zedi has been the only one forever. EQ on the USB return channels would be very handy.
3. More under 22# semi-weighted 73's with killer sounds/effects and EQ and more than one split.
4. A sturdy feeling 73 key midi controller with semi-weighted keys.
5. All keybeds from now on without that cheap sounding loud flopping noise on both pressing down and lifting up.

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#2895666 - 12/13/17 11:17 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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Originally Posted By: wcsound

2. More 8 to 12ch mixers with 4x4 or more USB. The 10ch Allen&Heath Zedi has been the only one forever.


Not true. Two examples: Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK (14 x 12 USB) and Zoom L-12 (14 x 4 USB)
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#2895671 - 12/13/17 11:48 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rod S]
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Originally Posted By: Rod S

(1) A midi patchbay (like the MOTUs) that accepts 5pin midi and USB. So you can patch your synths with less cables. Sure, you can do this from the Mac, but will like to be able to do this without the computer.


iConnectivity iConnectMIDI4+ does this...but unfortunately only holds one configuration at a time, i.e. no bank of stored patches that you can recall via front panel buttons. To change configurations requires hooking up computer or ipad.
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#2895678 - 12/13/17 12:24 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Sam Mullins]
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I'd like an iMac Pro.

Oh wait, they're coming out tomorrow:

iMac Pro Released - 12/14/17



Best,

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#2895681 - 12/13/17 12:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I would love to see a rack mount version of the Ventilator with memory for presets triggered by MIDI, lots of knobs to control the sound, a variety of models, a remote footswitch option that includes speed indicator lights, probably some other tech that I'm not thinking of now.

I'd also like to see a trickle down from the Montage or a new VA from Yamaha.

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#2895687 - 12/13/17 01:02 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Sam Mullins]
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Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
iConnectivity iConnectMIDI4+ does this...but unfortunately only holds one configuration at a time, i.e. no bank of stored patches that you can recall via front panel buttons. To change configurations requires hooking up computer or ipad.

Thanks. I remember looking into this in the past for another application, and then forgot about it. It looks like you can connect up to 8 USB devices - interesting. And I can hook it up two computers. Definitely on my list to investigate further.

It will be next to impossible to find this in Brazil, but that's another problem. laugh
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#2895694 - 12/13/17 01:28 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rod S]
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A new Kurzweil workstation to replace my beloved K2661, please...
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#2895696 - 12/13/17 01:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: eric]
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Originally Posted By: eric
I would love to see a rack mount version of the Ventilator with memory for presets triggered by MIDI, lots of knobs to control the sound, a variety of models, a remote footswitch option that includes speed indicator lights, probably some other tech that I'm not thinking of now.


sounds expensive, Eric. Don't know how many they could sell.
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#2895705 - 12/13/17 02:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: eric]
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Originally Posted By: eric
I would love to see a rack mount version of the Ventilator with memory for presets triggered by MIDI, lots of knobs to control the sound, a variety of models, a remote footswitch option that includes speed indicator lights, probably some other tech that I'm not thinking of now...

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#2895742 - 12/13/17 04:42 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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1. A Kronos Rack for the sounds without the beast

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#2895745 - 12/13/17 05:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Moonglow]
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For me this

" a new PX5-S with better piano and organ samples"
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#2895757 - 12/13/17 05:38 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: eric
I would love to see a rack mount version of the Ventilator with memory for presets triggered by MIDI, lots of knobs to control the sound, a variety of models, a remote footswitch option that includes speed indicator lights, probably some other tech that I'm not thinking of now.


sounds expensive, Eric. Don't know how many they could sell.


You're probably right. A rack mount Ventilator Pro with the features I would expect would likely come in around $600-800? I remember paying $695 for a new Dynacord CLS-222 back in the early '90s and felt like that was worth every penny. I'd even be happy for just base Ventilator functionality in a rack for $500 and would pay hundreds more for MIDI, presets, etc. It's not clear how wide of a customer base this would have, but one can hope!

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#2895802 - 12/13/17 08:58 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Got to get an iMac Pro. Think I’ll go for a 10-core with 64GB Ram and a 1 TB SSD.


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#2895805 - 12/13/17 09:02 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: eric]
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I've mentioned before what I want: a Kurzweil version of the EMU Proteus - their greatest hits library of 2000 sounds in a 1U rack space. No features, thanks. Just the Programs. Then watch them fly off the shelves.

And then take all their superior MIDI controller software and put it in 3 versions: 76 key synth action, 76 key weighted, and 88 key weighted.
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#2895812 - 12/13/17 10:04 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthaholic]
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1) Kronos with 76 synth action

2) Hammond SK5 with the new organ engine, add drawbars for lower and pedal
and high quality piano, synth samples.... oh, not to forget: internal powersupply!

3) Roland V-Synth XXL

.... more a wishlist?
;-)


Edited by M_G (12/13/17 10:04 PM)
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#2895815 - 12/13/17 10:32 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Sam Mullins]
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Originally Posted By: wcsound

2. More 8 to 12ch mixers with 4x4 or more USB. The 10ch Allen&Heath Zedi has been the only one forever.


Not true. Two examples: Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK (14 x 12 USB) and Zoom L-12 (14 x 4 USB)


Thanks for that correction, never heard of the Zoom and think I eliminated the Soundcraft when looking a while ago for being bigger and more expensive than I wanted and settled for the A&H. But just looking it up I'm seeing some at $350 now and I need another mixer, so maybe I'll dedicate the A&H for live and put a Soundcraft in the studio.

But I'll still correct my wishlist #2 to: More 8-10ch. compact mixers with rotary faders and 4x4 or more usb.

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#2895816 - 12/13/17 10:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rod S]
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Originally Posted By: Rod S
Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
iConnectivity iConnectMIDI4+ does this...but unfortunately only holds one configuration at a time, i.e. no bank of stored patches that you can recall via front panel buttons. To change configurations requires hooking up computer or ipad.

Thanks. I remember looking into this in the past for another application, and then forgot about it. It looks like you can connect up to 8 USB devices - interesting. And I can hook it up two computers. Definitely on my list to investigate further.

It will be next to impossible to find this in Brazil, but that's another problem. laugh


Also check out iConnectivity mio10. 10 MIDI Din ports plus ability to connect 10 USB devices. Same restriction as MIDI4+, it can only hold one configuration at a time.

Jamie

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#2895830 - 12/14/17 02:35 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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I have a special wish: that somebody announce a new synthesizer that it is not a re-edition of a 70s or 80s machine, and that actually try to introduce a new sound space and new (wrt the market) synthesis paradigm.

Maurizio
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#2895832 - 12/14/17 02:54 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: mauriziodececco]
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I want a new hardware additive synth, like Kawai K5000.


Edited by UnderGroundH (12/14/17 12:58 PM)
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#2895833 - 12/14/17 02:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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#2895868 - 12/14/17 06:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: mauriziodececco]
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Originally Posted By: mauriziodececco
I have a special wish: that somebody announce a new synthesizer that it is not a re-edition of a 70s or 80s machine, and that actually try to introduce a new sound space and new (wrt the market) synthesis paradigm.

Maurizio


+1
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#2895888 - 12/14/17 08:12 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Sam Mullins]
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Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
Originally Posted By: mauriziodececco
I have a special wish: that somebody announce a new synthesizer that it is not a re-edition of a 70s or 80s machine, and that actually try to introduce a new sound space and new (wrt the market) synthesis paradigm.

Maurizio


+1


+2
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#2895898 - 12/14/17 08:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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Originally Posted By: wcsound
Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
Originally Posted By: wcsound

2. More 8 to 12ch mixers with 4x4 or more USB. The 10ch Allen&Heath Zedi has been the only one forever.


Not true. Two examples: Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK (14 x 12 USB) and Zoom L-12 (14 x 4 USB)


Thanks for that correction, never heard of the Zoom and think I eliminated the Soundcraft when looking a while ago for being bigger and more expensive than I wanted and settled for the A&H. But just looking it up I'm seeing some at $350 now and I need another mixer, so maybe I'll dedicate the A&H for live and put a Soundcraft in the studio.

But I'll still correct my wishlist #2 to: More 8-10ch. compact mixers with rotary faders and 4x4 or more usb.


There's also the Keith McMillen K-Mix - thus completing the trio that I'm currently considering for a mixer upgrade. It has the smallest form factor of the three, and least vulnerable to accidental beer spills and the like. OTOH, some configuration can only be done with the desktop software, like pre- vs. post-fader input settings.

The Soundcraft is actually the least costly of the three, but inputs are pre-fader only (not a concern for me, but turnoff for some others), and it's the biggest.

More competition to consider would be welcome for me too.
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#2895932 - 12/14/17 10:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: GovernorSilver]
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#2895963 - 12/14/17 01:17 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: burningbusch]
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#2895972 - 12/14/17 01:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rusty Mike]
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Originally Posted By: Rusty Mike
I hope nobody comes out with anything I’d be tempted to buy!


I know, right?!?
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#2896166 - 12/15/17 03:22 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: zephonic]
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#2896201 - 12/15/17 07:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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my wishlist:

1.)
Viscount Physis K series masterkeyboard w/ 76-keys semi-weighted synth action (Fatar TP9-S)

2.)
John Bowen Solaris rack (like discussed HERE ... 3)

3.)
Roland Integra-7 mkII w/ more Studio-Set memory and more slots for the SRX expansions so one can load more than 4 of the virtual cards.

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#2896351 - 12/17/17 06:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthaholic]
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Originally Posted By: Synthaholic
I've mentioned before what I want: a Kurzweil version of the EMU Proteus - their greatest hits library of 2000 sounds in a 1U rack space. No features, thanks. Just the Programs. Then watch them fly off the shelves.

Agreed... I remember years ago I thought about picking up the PC2R. Have been in the lookout for a follow up since then.

Originally Posted By: Al Coda
3.)Roland Integra-7 mkII w/ more Studio-Set memory and more slots for the SRX expansions so one can load more than 4 of the virtual cards.

Ditto, got close to getting one, a store here in Brazil had an excellent price on them, sold out while I was deciding.
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#2896390 - 12/17/17 09:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rod S]
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Same thing I ask for every year:
76 key MIDI controller with velocity sensitivity, release sensitivity, polyphonic aftertouch with a key feel like a Novation X-station, multiple knobs and at least 9 sliders, ribbon controller like a Yamaha CS-60/80, pitch and mod wheels, something like the Nord pitch stick, multiple MIDI connections, USB, and soft synth auto-mapping function that weighs under 35 lbs and costs under $700. A used Roland A50 is the closest thing to this.


Edited by Doc Tonewheel (12/17/17 09:40 AM)
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#2896484 - 12/17/17 04:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Doc Tonewheel]
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Originally Posted By: Doc Tonewheel
Same thing I ask for every year:
76 key MIDI controller with velocity sensitivity, release sensitivity, polyphonic aftertouch with a key feel like a Novation X-station, multiple knobs and at least 9 sliders, ribbon controller like a Yamaha CS-60/80, pitch and mod wheels, something like the Nord pitch stick, multiple MIDI connections, USB, and soft synth auto-mapping function that weighs under 35 lbs and costs under $700. A used Roland A50 is the closest thing to this.

A used Generalmusic S3 Turbo is even closer, and goes for around $300-400, assuming you can find one. 76 keys (E-G) with excellent (high-end Fatar keyboard) feel, Velocity, Release Velocity, PolyAT, 8 assignable sliders, multiple buttons, pitch/mod wheels, multiple MIDI connections. Even though they are 25 years old, they were built like tanks- if you find one you will most likely need to replace the battery soldered on to the main board, and consider changing out the floppy drive for one of those modern floppy emulators.

NAMM: Every year I think, OK, this is my last one...and then every summer I get "the email" and next thing I know I am going again. Besides, NAMM always falls on my birthday, and we wants it, my precious! This year I am going to be checking out dedicated piano-touch controllers (like the Kawai VPC1, etc.) and be on the lookout for the next new thing from DSI. Always interested in checking out any analog Poly. Behringer will not be there, so EFF 'EM. Would be nice to see/hear/play some new product from Moog. Visiting the Euromodular pavilion is always fun, and grabbing some more swag from the Reverb Pavilion. Going down to the basement/Hall E to see all of the weird, surprising stuff. I still owe Markyboard a drink...

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#2896487 - 12/17/17 04:43 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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Thanks for the info! I have never had a chance to play a Generalmusic keyboard, but will keep an eye out for one,
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#2896715 - 12/19/17 05:37 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Doc Tonewheel]
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The ONE Smart Piano light up bar/teaching aid



https://www.smartpiano.com/pages/piano-hi-lite
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#2896716 - 12/19/17 05:40 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Viscount Legend Solo will be at the show
NAMM – BOOTH #10006!

Main features:

· PERFECT PORTABLE ORGAN SOLUTION

· WATERFALL KEYBOARD WITH HIGH TRIGGER POINTS FOR ULTRA FAST RESPONSE

· THE LEGEND USES THE LATEST IN TONEWHEEL MODELING TECHNOLOGY

· EASY TO PLAY

· NEWLY DESIGNED ROTARY AND AMP SIMULATIONS

· TWO FULL SETS OF DRAWBARS

· FOUR PRESETS FOR EACH SET OF DRAWBARS

· IMPROVED HARMONIC PERCUSSION AND KEY CLICK

· EFFECTS VIBRATO AND CHORUS

· ALL REALTIME CONTROLS ARE PLACED FOR EASY CONTROL

· EXTERNAL Leslie® 11-pin OUTPUT

· FX SEND/RETURN
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#2896718 - 12/19/17 05:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Sensel Morph strikes bundle deal with Arturia Analog Lab Lite



"We're excited to announce that we now offer Arturia Analog Lab Lite with every Morph purchase."

https://sensel.com/pages/morph

https://www.arturia.com/support/included-analog-lab-lite-quickstart
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#2896721 - 12/19/17 06:19 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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"9V DC from a disposable PP3 (6LR61) battery or an external 9V power supply has been the de facto standard for effects pedals pretty much since they were first invented. In the meantime, the rest of the world has moved on, and most of our other portable devices these days are powered via USB... The 529 takes a 5V USB input and converts it to 9V pedal power ports. There are four isolated 150mA outputs for powering conventional effects pedals plus a 500mA high power output for those devices with higher current requirements. The USB input can be almost any type of USB power device. A USB wall charger such as you use with your phone or tablet will work fine, and there is one included with the 529. The kicker though, is that you can also use a USB rechargeable battery pack. Almost any off the shelf USB battery pack will work. Smaller 1A packs will be enough for a few pedals. 2.1A packs will allow you to use more plus those with higher current demands such as some digital pedals. If you need more than the 5 outputs, you can chain two 529 units together and use them with a 2.1A USB power source to power up to 10 pedals. $149 Retail"



https://missionengineering.com/shop-2/products/power/power-529/?v=7516fd43adaa
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#2896747 - 12/19/17 07:58 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Having just yesterday ordered a Voodoo Labs power thingie for my daughter this would have been cool if you could also power it directly via AC; for those times when you don't have a USB device handy. But then I guess you would need an AC adapter, unless of course... deadhorse they had a built in power supply/converter deadhorse .

Oh the power! facepalm

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#2896759 - 12/19/17 08:43 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: DarkyLord]
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I think they are saying you can plug it into the AC wall using the AC to USB adapter that comes with pretty much all smart phones.
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#2896774 - 12/19/17 09:41 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Yeah at first that seemed kind of ironic, but then I thought about it some more and it's actually a good solution.

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#2896813 - 12/19/17 12:10 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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Originally Posted By: tfort
My wish list:

updated controllers:
Kawai - VPC-2, with GF or GF-2 action and Bluetooth

Novation - something to replace the SL MkII

Arturia - a Keylab Pro or something to take the high end above the Keylab essential

Casio - update to the PX-5S

software:
Apple - Logic Pro XI

Mainstage 4, also available for iPad


I SECOND THAT MOTION!!! like
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#2896897 - 12/19/17 07:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Darcity]
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Korg SV-2.
Bye bye GrandStage.

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#2896912 - 12/19/17 10:52 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Fleer]
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Already mentioned this in another thread, but I'd like a new 76-key flagship Roland with aftertouch, and a Montage-based S90 successor (with the wheels above the keyboard, duh).

If that happens and it sounds as good as I imagine, I may just ditch the laptop rig.
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#2897012 - 12/20/17 01:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Fleer]
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Originally Posted By: Fleer
Korg SV-2.
Bye bye GrandStage.


Surely the GrandStage is an SV2 by any other name? It's a piano-oriented performance keyboard with a clonewheel engine (that arguably should have been in the SV1 to start with!)

Cheers, Mike.
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#2897014 - 12/20/17 01:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Jamie Finstad]
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Originally Posted By: Jamie Finstad
Originally Posted By: Rod S
Originally Posted By: Sam Mullins
iConnectivity iConnectMIDI4+ does this...but unfortunately only holds one configuration at a time, i.e. no bank of stored patches that you can recall via front panel buttons. To change configurations requires hooking up computer or ipad.

Thanks. I remember looking into this in the past for another application, and then forgot about it. It looks like you can connect up to 8 USB devices - interesting. And I can hook it up two computers. Definitely on my list to investigate further.

It will be next to impossible to find this in Brazil, but that's another problem. laugh


Also check out iConnectivity mio10. 10 MIDI Din ports plus ability to connect 10 USB devices. Same restriction as MIDI4+, it can only hold one configuration at a time.

Jamie


Come to think of it, my wish for NAMM would be to have a new version of one of these devices that holds 5-10 configurations with front panel recall buttons. No need to have front panel configuration editing...just the ability to select a stored configuration.
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#2897039 - 12/20/17 03:51 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Sam Mullins]
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Omega 120 bass piano accordion

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Our Omega piano accordion is a fantastic instrument with a 120 buttons standard bass. Its extremely quiet bass mechanics, light weight and brilliant sound makes this piano accordion the first choice for home, orchestra or stage use.



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#2897040 - 12/20/17 03:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Sound it! 8 Pro
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Sound it! is a multifunctional and versatile audio editing, mastering and processing software.

High-quality sound and ability of sound design, support for high resolution audio (DSD File formats), fully compatible to native 64bit operating systems, comes with professional bundled effects, batch processing capability and more, giving you the ability to answer to any professional sound engineers or high-end audiophiles' demands. Mac and PC, $199.

http://www.ssw.co.jp/en/products/sit/

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#2897041 - 12/20/17 03:57 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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http://www.musicradar.com/news/namm-2018-news-rumours-teasers-and-predictions

"- We’re hoping that Waldorf’s long-awaited Quantum polysynth will get an airing; pre-orders are now being taken and it’s scheduled to ship in January

- Given that it’s been available to pre-order for six months, Behringer will be under pressure to show a finished version of its Minimoog-cloning Behringer D synth. Inevitably, it’ll also be quizzed about its on/off plans to emulate a whole load of other synths, too

- Another well-known music technology manufacturer is set to unveil additions to its audio interface range, promising great performance at a relatively low price

- Following Gibson’s decision to end development of its products, is it too much to hope that we might hear some good news about Cakewalk?

- As a general theme, we’re going to stick our neck out and say that this could be the year of the analogue polysynth. The market is flooded with monophonic instruments, so it feels like the next logical step

- We know that both Ableton Live 10 and FL Studio 20 are scheduled for release in 2018, but we doubt that either will be on display at NAMM"
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#2897072 - 12/20/17 07:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver
The mystery Korg "game changer/whatever" synth - the one that starts with a P and is 8 English letters long. I probably won't want it but I'm curious as to what it will turn out to be.


I'm really hoping Korg raises its analog polysynth game another step, at least in the oscillator design, and doesn't just do a Minilogue with big keys and more polyphony.

An analog poly with Volca-style FM stacked on it would sound amazing, but seems unlikely.

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#2897095 - 12/21/17 01:03 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Simple wish - and iPad application for the Kronos that duplicates most of the front panel.

There is a 3rd party one that I may take a shot next year. When I first looked it at it was limited, but they've since added features.

I'm curious as to where Korg is going with the iOS apps and if they will announce something. I'd love to see some newer stuff like a MS2000 or a Prophecy.
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#2897162 - 12/21/17 09:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Rod S]
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I too am curious regarding how Casio is going to step up to the plate this year.

I played their hybrid piano a couple years ago and noticed that the sample in that was up to par with about anything else out there.

If that sample finally makes it into a portable they are going to have a winner.

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#2897262 - 12/21/17 05:25 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: LX88]
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RATStands Ltd
booth 8730 (Hall B)

25 seconds in...


This thing folds flat, can take some serious abuse, and folds flat - fits in a bag.
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#2897265 - 12/21/17 05:45 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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4. Kurzweil PC3LE7
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#2897617 - 12/23/17 12:16 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: seanl]
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KV331 Audio has released SynthMaster 2.9. The new update adds wavetable synthesis, new factory presets, and an in-app-store. More here:

SynthMaster 2.9



Keyboard Corner thread here:

SynthMaster 2.9 Update Released

Best,

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#2897627 - 12/23/17 01:07 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The new Motif is coming. With a much easier, compact user interface.





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#2897645 - 12/23/17 02:07 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: newkeys]
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Originally Posted By: newkeys
Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver
The mystery Korg "game changer/whatever" synth - the one that starts with a P and is 8 English letters long. I probably won't want it but I'm curious as to what it will turn out to be.


I'm really hoping Korg raises its analog polysynth game another step, at least in the oscillator design, and doesn't just do a Minilogue with big keys and more polyphony.

An analog poly with Volca-style FM stacked on it would sound amazing, but seems unlikely.


In this article, the Korg exec says the mystery name will include number(s):
https://www.gearnews.com/korg-product-tease-begins-p-8-characters-includes-numbers/

As a rule, I keep my expectations low - like "it's gonna be some variation on the Minilogue architecture" instead of "it's gonna blow all our minds plus save the environment and create world peace"- so that I'll be pleasantly surprised later. Works well with real life, too, not just NAMM speculation wink


Edited by GovernorSilver (12/23/17 07:33 PM)
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#2897646 - 12/23/17 02:19 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
RATStands Ltd
This thing folds flat, can take some serious abuse, and folds flat - fits in a bag.

It's a very cool, albeit pricey stand. Been out for quite a while anyway. The music store where I worked last century is an authorized dealer and has them in stock.
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#2897649 - 12/23/17 02:33 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
RATStands Ltd
This thing folds flat, can take some serious abuse, and folds flat - fits in a bag.

It's a very cool, albeit pricey stand. Been out for quite a while anyway. The music store where I worked last century is an authorized dealer and has them in stock.


I had one of these for the last 6/7 years. Looked great on paper but I had a lot of issues with it once it arrived. The stand was fine for small amounts of music but anything like a typical big band piano book 80-100 pages and i would slowly sink back into itself. many times I was left reaching over to prop it back up while trying to play. I sent it back to the manufacturer and the sent me a new one. Performed slightly better but invariably it happened again.

Now I think the newer ones might be more sturdy?? Make sure you check it out in person before buying though. Another issue I had was that it was a little limiting in terms of how close you could pull the stand to you if you’re playing keys. The main shaft of the stand would inhibit how close you could bring it due to hitting up against the keyboard. Neat idea, converts to a nice size when folded up but ultimately didn’t fit my situation. YMMV.
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#2897658 - 12/23/17 03:16 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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I’d love to see the successor to the PX5s.
An iPad editor for the Casio MZ-X500 to take advantage of its awesome Hex Layer capabilities. Need to see all the mapping parameters, at the very least, on 1 page.

And from left field:
Hybrid synth that has the best of arranger, controller, home and live capabilities:
- not a full arranger with all the accompaniment styles, everything arranger instead being focused on smart drum capabilities, arpeggios, user chords and patterns, etc.
- 16 good feeling velocity and AT pads, 9 fader matrix to select organ control, eq, volume levels for individual sounds, etc., lots of real time knobs
- Robust MIDI implementation
- 2 models: 76 semi-weighted keys, 88 HA, both solid mid tier actions
- 2 x 25 watt speakers at a minimum, kick ass sound system!
- Easy to use 16 track sequencer, etc.
- Built-in stand for ipad
- Good controller for Mac/PC

And on and on. And of course the 76 key would be around $1,000!

This is not so far fetched if you look at something like the Numa Compact 2 as a starting point (or inspiration if you will, incredible amount of lightweight power for $500). A board that has some sounds and a small screen to get you by, but you hook up your ipad and it massively upgrades your sound / editing / features, and gives you access to all the apps out there (in addition to whatever app it comes bundled with that’d be as seamless as hardware keyboards in ease of use). Built-in master app that accommodates and simplifies using other music apps in addition to its own. No MIDI degree required here to get apps to play together well.

I suspect Casio, Korg or Numa could pull this off at a reasonable price point. If it was a genuinely good controller with a decent keybed, I think a lot of people would find it very attractive. With an ipad hooked up, it could also pull off some of the auto accompaniment might want (personally never my thing except for rythyms).

I suspect we’d need to have a few more generations of ipad before it could generate the quality of sounds that’d compete with higher end keyboards and VSTs. Personally, i’d rather not deal with a PC/Mac for music, i’m waiting for iPads to be able to do the job well.


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#2897875 - 12/25/17 12:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Randelph]
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From Yamaha;

1) a refresh of the Reface CP/YC models in the same form factor as their Piaggero (e.g. full-size "graded soft touch" keys) at a similar price point with USB audio input & full MIDI options

2) an update of their old 1980's SK-xx series based upon their new super LSI chip and designed to compete against the VR-7xx/Nord Electro/HS SK series

3) huge price drop for the current CP-40/MOXF6/MOXF8/Reface CP/Reface YC

4) a cheaper mid-level "Montage Lite" that can directly load existing 6-operator voices from the public domain library
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#2897877 - 12/25/17 12:54 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: The_Star_Guy]
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#2897878 - 12/25/17 12:57 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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2018 marks our 25th anniversary!

25% off your entire order through January 1, 2018.

We're re-issuing some of our most popular products.

The Holy Grail Piano is available for Kontakt now and

Korg Kronos on 12.15.17.

Also for Kronos, Increased Velocity, Heavy Hitters Greatest Hits, Symphonic Fields Forever, Denny Jaeger Private Collection and more!
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#2898337 - 12/28/17 11:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SKB To Unveil 7 New Customizable Think Tank-Designed Keyboard Case Interiors



"SKB will be releasing 7 new iSeries Keyboard Cases with Think Tank Interiors at NAMM 2018 that are fully customizable to accommodate virtually all popular keyboard sizes and setups from Nord, Yamaha, Korg, Kurzweil, and more."

Features, sizes, suggested price...
Link to copy.
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#2898451 - 12/29/17 05:23 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Ooh, pricey but nice! Will be interested to see what they offer over the Gator ones, which I guess is the closest competition?
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#2898896 - 01/01/18 07:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: MorayM]
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#2898898 - 01/01/18 07:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: The_Star_Guy]
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a refresh of the Reface


How revolutionary. snax
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#2899866 - 01/05/18 11:46 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthoid]
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NAMM 2018: Gibson no-show confirmed — Guitar maker instead focusing on Consumer Electronics Show

The article linked to above reiterates a statement Gibson released when it decided to end development of Cakewalk products, "The decision was made to better align with the company's acquisition strategy that is heavily focused on growth in the global consumer electronics audio business under the Philips brand."

The choice to exhibit at CES instead of NAMM aligns with that goal, but it's nonetheless a jarring turn for a long-time heavyweight in our industry to make.

Best,

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#2899873 - 01/05/18 12:06 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
NAMM 2018: Gibson no-show confirmed — Guitar maker instead focusing on Consumer Electronics Show

The article linked to above reiterates a statement Gibson released when it decided to end development of Cakewalk products, "The decision was made to better align with the company's acquisition strategy that is heavily focused on growth in the global consumer electronics audio business under the Philips brand."

The choice to exhibit at CES instead of NAMM aligns with that goal, but it's nonetheless a jarring turn for a long-time heavyweight in our industry to make.
eek

I would guess this would hit their guitar and MI divisions badly. I mean, lots of shops go to NAMM to check out the latest in these products, and unless they feel they need to carry Gibson, they can just carry products from one of the many, many other guitar manufacturers that will be at NAMM. OTOH, it won't matter for GC, Sweetwater, and other big ones since Gibson probably sends reps to their HQ anyway.
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#2899906 - 01/05/18 03:20 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
NAMM 2018: Gibson no-show confirmed — Guitar maker instead focusing on Consumer Electronics Show


So as far as I can tell, aside from Gibson, other no shows for NAMM will be:

Moog
DSI
Behringer
Access (Virus, though they have been away awhile...)
???

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#2899908 - 01/05/18 03:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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That sucks! No Moog or DSI? Usually two of my favorites and usually right by each other.

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#2899910 - 01/05/18 03:43 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: eric]
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I just got an unexpected surprise when I went to register badges yesterday. As a non-exhibitor member I used to get four badges. Now I get two, with the option to buy two more for $100 apiece. They also raised their dues last year. I wonder if they’ve also raised exhibitor fees, and all of this is causing exhibitors to question the value of the NAMM show. It’s an expensive show for an exhibitor.

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#2899912 - 01/05/18 03:58 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: eric]
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That sucks! No Moog or DSI? Usually two of my favorites and usually right by each other.


shocked

Guess we'll just hang out at the Williams booth for 4 days Python

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#2899913 - 01/05/18 03:59 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: OB Dave]
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or if exhibitors are starting to question the value of the NAMM show.

I first noticed this 17 years ago as a sales rep. Some smaller MI store owners weren't as keen going to NAMM as they had been previously. It's gotten progressively worse, obviously.
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#2899957 - 01/05/18 08:27 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
NAMM 2018: Gibson no-show confirmed — Guitar maker instead focusing on Consumer Electronics Show

The article linked to above reiterates a statement Gibson released when it decided to end development of Cakewalk products, "The decision was made to better align with the company's acquisition strategy that is heavily focused on growth in the global consumer electronics audio business under the Philips brand."

The choice to exhibit at CES instead of NAMM aligns with that goal, but it's nonetheless a jarring turn for a long-time heavyweight in our industry to make.

Best,

Geoff


I would say that Gibson's booth in the last couple of NAMM's has been half-hearted to say the least.

What's ironic is their "presence" at CES is a tent in the parking lot across from the convention hall. They are removed from all of the real action and excitement of CES. And it's an odd mix of their guitars, amps, and their CE lines from acquired brands over the years. To me both their NAMM and CES efforts-and they've been at CES for many years now- feel disjointed and without a real corporate focus. No surprise of course......

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#2899966 - 01/05/18 09:52 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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The trend is definitely accelerating. I remember being shocked when Fender stopped going several years ago. They went from a gigantic booth on the floor, to a large booth upstairs - I think after the convention center remodeling - and couple years later, poof, gone!

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#2899971 - 01/05/18 11:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: OB Dave]
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So is this trend one of guitar-makers waning in significance and power, of companies in general abandoning trade shows, or both?

My guess would be both, but then I don't work for MI companies.

Best,

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#2899981 - 01/06/18 12:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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My guess is both as well. Trade shows may well be a relic of the past. With the web, social media, etc, it's much easier to get your product out there than it ever was before. And there are way fewer individual retailers than there used to be, and a lot of companies have turned to selling direct. If your business model is focused on selling into just a few distribution channels, it probably makes sense to just fly out and visit the people who run those distribution channels and skip the expense of a trade show.

The industry as a whole is slowly dying, so it stands to reason that the industry trade shows would slowly wither too. It sucks, but that's the reality.

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#2900017 - 01/06/18 07:27 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver

In this article, the Korg exec says the mystery name will include number(s):
https://www.gearnews.com/korg-product-tease-begins-p-8-characters-includes-numbers/


Poly8000

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#2900018 - 01/06/18 07:30 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: OB Dave]
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Arturia will be there "We will be at NAMM on booth #11910 and... yes, will come with, what we believe, are audacious, inspiring and cool new products.".

Just received by mail

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#2900065 - 01/06/18 11:12 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: OB Dave]
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By way of comparison, look at Macworld Expo. That used to be a huge event, especially MWSF, but once Apple pulled out with their last being 2009, it was only a few years before it was gone. Without the draw of whatever Apple was announcing, it didn't draw people like it used to.

Obviously NAMM isn't as dependent on one manufacturer like that, but I totally agree with this:
Originally Posted By: OB Dave
My guess is both as well. Trade shows may well be a relic of the past. With the web, social media, etc, it's much easier to get your product out there than it ever was before. And there are way fewer individual retailers than there used to be, and a lot of companies have turned to selling direct. If your business model is focused on selling into just a few distribution channels, it probably makes sense to just fly out and visit the people who run those distribution channels and skip the expense of a trade show.
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#2900105 - 01/06/18 01:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Bone Muskeleton]
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I am curious about Korgs keyboard/workstation strategy for 2018. And curious if they will do some kind on 10 day product countdown.

I know that gimmick is sort of cheesy . I am interested in clues prior to Jan 25. Assuming Korg does anything on the workstation front for 2018.


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#2900546 - 01/08/18 10:43 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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Originally Posted By: Marzzz
Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
NAMM 2018: Gibson no-show confirmed — Guitar maker instead focusing on Consumer Electronics Show


So as far as I can tell, aside from Gibson, other no shows for NAMM will be:

Moog
DSI
Behringer
Access (Virus, though they have been away awhile...)
???



just received an e-mail from Shear Electronics (the kid building the OB-X clone) that he won't be exhibiting at NAMM this year.
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#2900557 - 01/08/18 11:06 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on, like an SK1, or Nord Compactg or Sub 37. Something that wouldn't require 2nd tier assembly.
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#2900565 - 01/08/18 11:22 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Tonysounds]
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Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on, like an SK1, or Nord Compactg or Sub 37. Something that wouldn't require 2nd tier assembly.


+1. A good quality controller at a reasonable price. I'm in!

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#2901268 - 01/10/18 07:09 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Tonysounds]
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Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on, like an SK1, or Nord Compactg or Sub 37. Something that wouldn't require 2nd tier assembly.


This is exactly what I loved about the Yamaha P150 & 300 even though they we're heavy beasts/

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#2901277 - 01/10/18 07:56 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: RedKey]
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Originally Posted By: RedKey
Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on, like an SK1, or Nord Compactg or Sub 37. Something that wouldn't require 2nd tier assembly.


This is exactly what I loved about the Yamaha P150 & 300 even though they we're heavy beasts/


One of the problems is clearly the depth of the case. If you figure 6" for keys and another 12" or so for the top keyboard on top you're at 18", which is very deep (really Motif 8 deep). A slab DP might be between 12" - 14" in depth. Would the number of people who want this capability be greater than those who find this to be a huge negative?

Busch.

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#2901278 - 01/10/18 07:59 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: burningbusch]
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Seems like there's lots of changes on the showfloor this year. Don't assume you'll find your favorite vendor in the same spot they were previous years.

Busch.

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#2901284 - 01/10/18 08:57 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Seems like there's lots of changes on the showfloor this year. Don't assume you'll find your favorite vendor in the same spot they were previous years.

The booth numbering system is completely different this year, and I think NAMM has made a concerted effort to really group things together. One of my favorite guitar manufacturers, Tom Anderson Guitarworks, is up on the main floor in the guitar area- and I know that Tom specifically prefers being in Hall E (the basement) where they have been since the 80's.

With regard to trade shows withering, a lot of it is the internet, and a good portion is the cost of exhibiting; there are/were a lot of mandatory labor costs involved. But NAMM is also one of the few places where you can really lay hands on things, very hard to do that anymore unless you want to abuse a retailer's return policy...

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#2901285 - 01/10/18 09:00 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Tonysounds]
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Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on

I am taking look at the Kawai VPC1 for that very reason.


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#2901286 - 01/10/18 09:29 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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Originally Posted By: Marzzz
Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on

I am taking look at the Kawai VPC1 for that very reason.


except that the top is not flat, it is convex.
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#2901288 - 01/10/18 10:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
except that the top is not flat, it is convex.


details, details...!

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#2901294 - 01/11/18 12:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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And not that deep.
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#2901295 - 01/11/18 12:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: RedKey]
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Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on, like an SK1, or Nord Compactg or Sub 37. Something that wouldn't require 2nd tier assembly.


This is exactly what I loved about the Yamaha P150 & 300 even though they we're heavy beasts/


The last keyboard I owned with that attribute was my Rhodes MK80.
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#2901296 - 01/11/18 01:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
I am taking look at the Kawai VPC1 for that very reason.


except that the top is not flat, it is convex.


Well it's slightly rounded, but this shouldn't be an issue. If the user really wishes to place another board directly ontop (instead of using a stacker), anything with rubber feet will be fine.

Cheers,
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#2901302 - 01/11/18 04:16 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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Originally Posted By: Marzzz
Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
Id like an 88 weighted controller with a flat top large enough to put another keyboard on

I am taking look at the Kawai VPC1 for that very reason.



It's very heavy to carry, for live use...
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#2901368 - 01/11/18 08:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
I am taking look at the Kawai VPC1 for that very reason.


except that the top is not flat, it is convex.


Well it's slightly rounded, but this shouldn't be an issue. If the user really wishes to place another board directly ontop (instead of using a stacker), anything with rubber feet will be fine.

Cheers,
James
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good information, James. Thank You. BTW, might you have any information on a stacker for this model? I own 3 different sets of stackers for my vintage keyboards, but am not familiar with any for modern keyboards.
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#2901434 - 01/11/18 12:07 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Seems like there's lots of changes on the showfloor this year. Don't assume you'll find your favorite vendor in the same spot they were previous years.


This year adds a new wing to the NAMM show - on the NAMM Show map it's labeled as ACC. From what I can tell, a bunch of the exhibitors who were in Hall A before moved over to this new wing, a bunch of exhibitors who were in Hall B moved to Hall A, etc.. That logic doesn't apply in every case, but generally everything appears to have shifted in that direction.

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#2901465 - 01/11/18 03:55 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Hello Dave,

Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Well it's slightly rounded, but this shouldn't be an issue. If the user really wishes to place another board directly ontop (instead of using a stacker), anything with rubber feet will be fine.

Cheers,
James
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good information, James. Thank You. BTW, might you have any information on a stacker for this model? I own 3 different sets of stackers for my vintage keyboards, but am not familiar with any for modern keyboards.


Kawai does not officially endorse any particular stand manufacturer. However, unofficially, I'm personally a big fan of K&M's products, and use an 18950 at home to support an MP8II. This kind of table stand is ideal for the VPC1 too.

https://produkte.k-m.de/en/Keyboard-stands/Keyboard-tables

According to the website, the 18952 is the official stacker accessory for this stand.

Kind regards,
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ps. My apologies for the off-topic.
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#2901475 - 01/11/18 06:16 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James

Kawai does not officially endorse any particular stand manufacturer.

of course not, thanks for the info
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
My apologies for the off-topic.


please, no apologies necessary. I am a repeat offender here. wink
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#2901591 - 01/12/18 08:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: davedoerfler]
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I'm looking at an LX88 and see they are discontinued at some retailers... any word on something new?
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#2901599 - 01/12/18 08:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Clawback]
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No more LX88???? say it isn't so!!!!

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#2901611 - 01/12/18 09:23 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: RedKey]
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Art has a small format tube mixer.
Curious if it’s any good and might it color APs, EPs, Organs, Strings, Brass from our favorite digital keyboards attractively.

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#2901886 - 01/13/18 06:30 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: burningbusch]
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This year adds a new wing to the NAMM show - on the NAMM Show map it's labeled as ACC.

I was just trying to wrap my head around the new floorplan. You're right. It's a pretty major expansion: they've added a large, new two-story convention hall east of the arena and north of the Hilton. You can see the construction site in Google satellite view. and the finished product in Street View .

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#2901897 - 01/13/18 09:01 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: OB Dave]
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That new convention hall was a convenient parking lot. I used to take a quick walk over to my car once or twice a day to store NAMM literature—and the occasional purchase—in my trunk. Of course, I don't collect much NAMM literature anymore because there's usually even better info on the Internet.

Here's hoping the new hall adds to the enjoyability of the show, as it will almost certainly add extra walking distance.

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#2901928 - 01/14/18 06:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I'd love to see a new Kronos 3 with 3 additional sound engines (ahhh, but which ones?) and with the control surface of the Nord Stage 3 Compact.

I would love to see a new generation of Stereo Keyboard Amps on the market.

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#2901945 - 01/14/18 08:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Tonysounds]
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Originally Posted By: Tonysounds


The last keyboard I owned with that attribute was my Rhodes MK80.


I´m still using it because of it´s flat top,- and I´m very familiar w/ the action.
I also consider it to be one of the most robust electronic keyboard instruments I ever owned ´cause it´s still alive and works flawlessly since I bought it new in 1989.
Since years I look for a replacement offering better internal sounds, but it seems it will never come before I´m retired.

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#2901946 - 01/14/18 08:39 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Art has a small format tube mixer.


Starved plate crap or something more serious ?

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#2901950 - 01/14/18 09:08 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Art has a small format tube mixer.


Starved plate crap or something more serious ?

A.C.


Unfortunately anything other than starved plate would require this external power supply:


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#2902134 - 01/14/18 09:38 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: DarkyLord]
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Korg is starting buzz about something...

http://www.synthanatomy.com/2017/10/korg...-show-2018.html
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#2902135 - 01/14/18 09:44 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Roland will show off some new stuff at CES before NAMM.
They also have a new phone friendly site.
http://experience.roland.com/musicconnects/global/
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#2902170 - 01/15/18 05:04 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Edited by Kalin (01/15/18 05:06 AM)
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#2902190 - 01/15/18 06:36 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Kalin]
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Also, MiniBrute 2 semi-modular synthesizer announced by Arturia..
http://www.musicradar.com/news/namm-2018...pired-sequencer
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#2902194 - 01/15/18 06:46 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Korg is starting buzz about something...

http://www.synthanatomy.com/2017/10/korg-microkast-is-teasing-a-new-korg-product-for-the-namm-show-2018.html


old buzz. Oct 22

Don't see any new buzz
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#2902195 - 01/15/18 06:50 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: DarkyLord]
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Originally Posted By: Markyboard

Unfortunately anything other than starved plate would require this external power supply:





Crap, I´d prefer it (the above) being internal !

grin

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#2902196 - 01/15/18 06:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Roland will show off some new stuff at CES before NAMM.
They also have a new phone friendly site.
http://experience.roland.com/musicconnects/global/


Weird. Roland did assert they would show new products at CES- which was Jan 8.

But clicking on Rolands new products at CES brings up the usual pimping for CES, listen to these speakers, etc.

No there there.
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#2902214 - 01/15/18 07:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: GregC]
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Dexibell has benen teasing their new product to be shown at NAMM. Put out a picture on their Twitter feed today; it has drawbar/faders and looks controlleresque:
https://mobile.twitter.com/dexibellMI/status/952883671803064320/photo/1

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#2902395 - 01/15/18 08:08 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: wcsound]
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Stereo tube preamp

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#2902397 - 01/15/18 08:21 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: doctorpong]
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Stereo tube preamp


Someone is going to nail this thing before long.
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#2902414 - 01/16/18 03:50 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: cphollis]
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It all comes across as pretty dead-ish to me.

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#2902415 - 01/16/18 03:52 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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We all love NAMM, whether it be Summer NAMM, Winter NAMM or Viet NAMM. w00t
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#2902418 - 01/16/18 04:21 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthoid]
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Avid keyboardors take a perilous and increasingly hallucinatory journey upriver to winter NAMM. In the company of a Navy patrol boat filled with street-smart kids, a surfing-obsessed Air Cavalry officer, and a crazed freelance photographer, Willard travels further and further into the heart of darkness.

With apologizes to Apocalypse Now.
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#2902424 - 01/16/18 05:14 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Hmmmm. What's in your coffee? coffee
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#2902428 - 01/16/18 05:25 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthoid]
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This weeks special, 100% organic, fair trade NAMM blend.
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#2902433 - 01/16/18 05:44 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Phreakay]
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Originally Posted By: Markay
With apologizes to Apocalypse Now.


Charlie don't synth!!

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#2902434 - 01/16/18 05:50 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Marzzz]
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Originally Posted By: Markay
With apologizes to Apocalypse Now.


Charlie don't synth!!


Martin was in Apocalypse, not Charlie.
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#2902435 - 01/16/18 05:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthoid]
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Maybe the VC will die too ?!

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#2902771 - 01/17/18 07:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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Dexibell has benen teasing their new product to be shown at NAMM. Put out a picture on their Twitter feed today; it has drawbar/faders and looks controlleresque:
https://mobile.twitter.com/dexibellMI/status/952883671803064320/photo/1


Dexibell’s teaser pic from today mentions motorized draw fader technology which can be applied to tonewheel organ sounds, mixers, and for MIDI control. Also has pitch and mod wheels. Draw-faders are fader style rather than drawbar-style as on the Combo J7 (hope those could be switched out).

I’m really hoping for an affordable, well-built organ controller.

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#2903517 - 01/20/18 09:47 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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Looks like Dexibell’s new product is a Vivo S9 digital piano prototype. Triple sensor, motorized drawfaders.

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#2903524 - 01/20/18 10:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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#2903560 - 01/20/18 12:36 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Synthoid]
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Originally Posted By: Marzzz
Originally Posted By: Markay
With apologizes to Apocalypse Now.


Charlie don't synth!!


Martin was in Apocalypse, not Charlie.



Can't tell if you're just playing off the Sheens, or not. But Marzzz's line is what Robert Duvall said on the beach: "Charlie don't surf!"

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#2903593 - 01/20/18 02:47 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: EscapeRocks]
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"Charlie don't surf!"

"Charlie" of course is Victor Charlie, i.e. VC, i.e. Viet Cong

There seems to be some confusion about that in this thread.

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#2903656 - 01/20/18 11:11 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: OB Dave]
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Originally Posted By: OB Dave
Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
"Charlie don't surf!"

"Charlie" of course is Victor Charlie, i.e. VC, i.e. Viet Cong

There seems to be some confusion about that in this thread.


Not by me... wink
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#2903775 - 01/21/18 02:05 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
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25 seconds in...


This thing folds flat, can take some serious abuse, and folds flat - fits in a bag.


I have used one of these at a gig, really cool mechanism and seems to be extremely well made. Looks great on stage as well. Was really sorry to have to give it back to the hands at the venue.
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#2903810 - 01/21/18 05:39 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Ulf]
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Hi,

As a Viscount Legend live owner (a very happy one), I spotted this on the Facebook users group. A new organ called the Legend Classic will be launched. It's quite a nice looking bit of kit judging by the picture.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...eater&ifg=1

Chris

p.s. It reminds me of something from the old days!!


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#2903859 - 01/22/18 01:45 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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Looks like Dexibell’s new product is a Vivo S9 digital piano prototype. Triple sensor, motorized drawfaders.


Just found more info on the S9 here. Quite interesting:

"The Dexibell S9 is the flagship instrument of the Dexibell Stage piano range and follows in the footsteps of the popular S3 and S7 keyboards, and adds the powerful tonewheel organ engine of the J7 combo organ, motorized faders (which move automatically when selecting preset drawbar organ sounds), as well as other new features.

The Dexibell S9 will be launched at the NAMM Show in California 2018, but here are a few of the features we expect to see on this unique, luxury stage & studio keyboard:

Features That We Think The Dexibell S9 will Include*

Keyboard: 88 Notes Weighted
Sounds: Over 100 preset sounds, plus user locations for storage of your own samples
Audio quality: 24 bit linear, 48 Khz (Internal processing and DSP at 32 bit floating)
Unlimited Polyphony: 320 oscillators
XXL samples: Holophonic waves up to 15 seconds on lower Piano notes
Wireless connectivity: Bluetooth
Display: 128 x 64 High Contrast Organic LED
24 Reverb Effects
At least 14 Other Effects including new Wah and Compressor
EQ
Player/Recorder WAV 48KHz, 32bit floating
USB to Host (MIDI), to Device (Memory)
Multiple Organ Types: TW1, TW2, FARF, VX, PIPE + User1, User2 downloadable from Dexibell website
Digital Audio IN/OUT at 24bit 48KHz are transmitted and received by the DEXIBELL USB USB “Computer” port.
3GB Memory for preset & user sounds/samples
Nine motorized faders
*This is a projection of what we expect to see on the Dexibell S9 based on the limited teaser campaign released by the manufacturer, and is not the final manufacturer’s specification."

Alex
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#2903860 - 01/22/18 02:55 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Has anyone seen this, the Numa Compact 2X? Nice upgrade of the Numa Compact 2:

http://studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2x/

"The Numa Compact 2x brings to the extreme the power of the Compact family. Packed in the same compact size cabinet there are now 3 sound engines. A tone wheel organ model derived from Numa Organ, the Sledge sound synthesis and 1GB of samples memory. The new USB port allows to transmit and receive digital audio. Save more space using the Numa Compact 2x speakers to amplify the sounds of your computer or tablet. (...)"
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#2903872 - 01/22/18 05:09 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Alexander Nagel]
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#2903873 - 01/22/18 05:13 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2903874 - 01/22/18 05:17 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2903877 - 01/22/18 06:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Alexander Nagel]
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That caught my atention too, first on their FB page. Looks like they are aiming on the do-it-all affordable stage keyboard thing. Wonder how crippled are the tonewheel and synth sections to fit in here. If they put the price not too far from the 500 bucks charged on the current compact 2 and lower than the Roland V-Combos, it will be a potential winner (if we can find them, of course)!

Originally Posted By: Alexander Nagel
Has anyone seen this, the Numa Compact 2X? Nice upgrade of the Numa Compact 2:

http://studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2x/

"The Numa Compact 2x brings to the extreme the power of the Compact family. Packed in the same compact size cabinet there are now 3 sound engines. A tone wheel organ model derived from Numa Organ, the Sledge sound synthesis and 1GB of samples memory. The new USB port allows to transmit and receive digital audio. Save more space using the Numa Compact 2x speakers to amplify the sounds of your computer or tablet. (...)"

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#2903879 - 01/22/18 06:34 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: To B3]
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Hi Alexander Nagel and To B3,
That looks like it could be a great keyboard. I had a Numa 2 organ which (to me) sounded stunning. the only reason I sold it on was to buy a two manual organ. I ended up with the Viscount Legend Live.
The only problem I can see is that these keyboards are getting better (and cheaper) so it's a tough sell. Not weighted either but as 'To B3' say's in the previous post it's got to be priced right.
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#2903884 - 01/22/18 06:51 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Alexander Nagel]
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Originally Posted By: Alexander Nagel
Has anyone seen this, the Numa Compact 2X? Nice upgrade of the Numa Compact 2:

http://studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2x/

"The Numa Compact 2x brings to the extreme the power of the Compact family. Packed in the same compact size cabinet there are now 3 sound engines. A tone wheel organ model derived from Numa Organ, the Sledge sound synthesis and 1GB of samples memory. The new USB port allows to transmit and receive digital audio. Save more space using the Numa Compact 2x speakers to amplify the sounds of your computer or tablet. (...)"



That looks very interesting to me. I wish the drawbars were more traditionally styled, but if it has full MIDI controller functionality, it's definitely on my list for consideration. It does claim to send MIDI CC on the drawbars.

At the right price, it could be a great light-action second board to run MainStage, with built-in sounds as a backup. I really hope they price it a lot closer to the Numa Compact 2 than the Numa Organ 2. If it's anywhere near the Mojo 61 price, I don't think it will be successful. If it's an update to the Numa Compact 2 at near the same price, it will be a huge success.

That Vivo S9 seems like Dexibell's competitor to the Nord Stage.

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#2903912 - 01/22/18 07:59 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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There are audio demos on the site, but the organ demos are the same that are on the Compact 2 "regular", which does not have a tonewheel engine.

http://studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2x/

Really hoping to see how close it sounds on that department to the Numa Organ 2 in sound and functionality. If they maintain in the $ 800 league and manage to distribute it well, it's going to be a winner.
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#2903933 - 01/22/18 09:24 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: To B3]
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It's odd that Studiologic went to the trouble of having different colored knobs on the C2x, rather than simple black sliders, and didn't go all the way and use knobs that matched standard Hammond colors. If they fit, it's calling out to use OB Dave's drawbar cap set.

I wonder how much the DSP chips cost Studiologic to include? What I'd like is is something like the C2x with no sounds for $400 or so, similar to other non-hammer action controllers. If they want to include backup sounds for no extra cost, that's great, but once the price gets over $700, I'd probably make the leap to a more serious instrument like a Mojo 61.

The synth demo sounds are also the same as the ones for the Compact 2, so all of the sounds on the C2x seem the same as on the C2 despite Studiologic's claim of 3 sound engines now being included on the C2x. I don't see anything different other than the drawbars being added, which allow modifying the C2's organ and synth sounds. Also a higher speed USB controller which includes audio over USB. Seems like it ought not to cost much more than the Compact 2.

The drawbars sending MIDI CC is important. If the sound selection buttons also can be remapped in MainStage to select patches, I'm probably sold if the price is right.

FYI, it looks like they also make a gig bag for it now: http://www.studiologic-music.com/products/softcase/

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#2903974 - 01/22/18 11:38 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: tfort]
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If the organ section REALLY borrows a considerable lot from the Numa Organ 2 (as well as the synth from the sledge), coupled with the already-existing not too-shaby sounds and other controller functionalities, a 700-900 price tag would be very fair, IMHO, making it a strong competitor in theory in the VR-09/ VR-730 field.
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#2904032 - 01/22/18 01:50 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
"9V DC ...

I'm confused. Isn't loss of the guitar pedalboard still considered a *good thing* around here? confused
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#2904213 - 01/23/18 10:31 AM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: MurMan]
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Any word from Crumar this year? Think we'll see the product they planned to unveil last year?
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#2905412 - 01/28/18 04:40 PM Re: Winter NAMM 2018 Warmup (NAMMticipation) [Re: Al Coda]
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James, your suggestion of keyboard stand for digital pianos and deep synthesizers (like the Minimoog Voyager) was immensely helpful, as I did not previously have an awareness of the K&M 18950 stand.

http://www.frontendaudio.com/K-M-18950-Tabletop-Keyboard-Stand-p/9999-15154.htm

I just ordered it at 15% NAMM special today, from Front End Audio. I compared it to the 18953 model, but that one isn't as deep and has a fixed width, so this one seems the sturdiest, most supportive, and most flexible of all tabletop stands I have looked at over the years.

I didn't notice any new stands from any vendors in the NAMM news section (or at Reverb and other sites giving in-depth coverage of NAMM).
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