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#2838331 - 02/26/17 05:52 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I dig the SRH500 from what I saw on line. But, I sure would like a magnetic pickup tossed in there also. Keep it simple....Vol Vol for knobs, like on my Michael Kelly Hybrid guitar (the first one, with only one magnetic pickup) That'd be hip.
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#2840020 - 03/06/17 01:27 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Paul K]
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The Ibanez SRH500 now shows up in Sweetwater's catalogue, but I still haven't heard any audio demos of it, either fretted or fretless. I prefer ebony for fretless so probably would only consider the fretted model.

Rosewood doesn't work for me with fretless. Nor do synthetics. But wenge is fine. Maybe maple, but I've never seen that.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (03/06/17 01:27 PM)
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#2840087 - 03/06/17 05:47 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder


Rosewood doesn't work for me with fretless.


Indeed, ebony is preferred. But a little tong oil on rosewood hardens it up quite a bit. Ground wounds or flats or nylon, and the board wear is minimal--My #1 is rosewood, and it's been my #1 for over 15 years without a fretboard job. I'd say if the rest of the bass is what you want at the proper price point, don't let rosewood be the deal killer.
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#2840125 - 03/06/17 09:48 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Paul K]
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Cool, good to know. I wish I'd known that when I got rid of another rosewood fretless a few years back. All of my other fretless basses have been ebony, except for my first one, which was a converted 70's Jazz Bass (huh, it might have been maple!). Jaco-style, right?
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#2841215 - 03/12/17 05:25 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Today, I tried out the brand-new Verythin reissue by Hofner ($700, 30", 335-style) and like it quite a bit, but it needs a bit more work by the proprietor before I feel safe buying it, as the intonation isn't quite there even after he did a rush job while I was in the store (it was WAY off at first). I compared to a Beatles Bass (the lower-priced Ignition model) and they felt and sounded nothing like each other in spite of similar PUPS.

I am thinking of going for this instead of the new D'angelico EX-Bass, but need to compare specs first as the EX-Bass is a thin body as well and I have concluded that this is what I need/want for my semi-hollow or full hollow bass guitar.

The Hofner Verythin has an assertive tone and a solid feel, unlike a lot of smaller scale basses that feel more like guitars. In fact, it doesn't even feel like a short scale. Also, the string spacing is good enough for finger style playing, even though one would most likely primarily use a plectrum on this bass. The tone is great either way, and the 335-style controls give a wide range of sounds.

I had heard two YouTube demos that impressed me, so was curious to try this out today when the store where I did my Guild acoustic guitar upgrade got one in stock. I may go back in a week after the guy has had time to correct its floating bridge and pickup issues, to reverify the intonation at the twelfth fret and above.

The finish is traditional tobacco burst, which I feel looks nicer on this body shape than on the standard Beatles Bass viola/violin inspired shape.

Of course, it would benefit from flats but ships with rounds. McCartney used Pyramids for the most part, and those are $90/set!

Note that there is also a 34" long scale version available in a nice cherry burst:

http://www.hofner.com/guitars-basses/electric-basses/other-bass/verythin-ct-long-scale-bass.html

Given how well balanced the 30" short scale version seems, I think I would just stick with that if I go for this bass. Hollow and semi-hollow basses tend to have pretty high tension, so 34" can be a bit hard; 32" can be a nice compromise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_-BRD94wEY

I've linked a quality video above, as the guy who does Hofner's own demos is one of the worst bassists I've heard in my entire life. He uses crazy vibrato on every note!


Edited by Mark Schmieder (03/12/17 05:38 PM)
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#2842757 - 03/18/17 07:55 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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My technician highly recommends the Hofner Verythin, and said not to worry about the intonation problems I experienced in the store as it's an easy fix to the bridge and setup. He recommends it far above any other hollow or semi-hollow bass, including the new D'Angelico EX-Bass.

If I have the dough, I'll buy it this week, and also will try their Verythin Guitar which I didn't bother trying last week but which my technician says is very well built and has unique settings and sounds.
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#2890159 - 11/13/17 11:52 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I have confirmed that the Hofner Verythin Bass was discontinued and no longer available to order, unfortunately -- at least in the USA.

Perhaps the structural issues I found with the one I tried (and passed on, as a result) were too common to continue the model. I wasn't given a reason.

I am, however, quite interested in the new Epiphone Masterbilt Century Archtop Acoustic Bass Guitar with f-holes, which may arrive in stores as early as Xmas but more likely not until President's Day.

http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Electrics/Bass/Masterbilt-De-Luxe-Classic-4-String.aspx

I love the highest-end guitar model in that series, which I bought recently. Epiphone is once again using high-end components and construction on their $1000 mark instruments.

Too bad there are still no audio demos of the bass. It does take a 9V battery for its pickup, unlike the guitar in the same family. Understandable, as low frequencies require more energy to boost. It can be played acoustically though.

Interestingly, Epiphone ships it with tape-wound nylon strings, so it may end up being a good stand-in for a stand-up, so to speak. Or it might play like a Guitarron, with a dull thud and extreme discomfort.
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#2893628 - 12/01/17 11:39 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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For some reason, my Sweetwater rep didn't contact me to tell me the Epiphone Masterbilt De Luxe Classic Hollow Body Bass has come in, in limited numbers, even though I stated my interest and put myself on the waiting list.

It's only by chance that I re-checked the website tonight, but it's no big deal because I now know I don't want one, since someone finally posted a video demo, and literally every sound that comes out of this instrument is unusable due to wolf tones, buzz, and other unpleasantries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWXBh0B9ILg

So, the design of this bass does not do anything to mitigate the usual problems of hollow body acoustic basses. It sounds though like the owner may have switched from the default tape-wound strings that it ships with, so maybe not a valid demo?
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#2893696 - 12/02/17 04:11 PM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I'm still sold on the Hofner Verythin Bass, if only I could find one! Sweetwater said they're no longer available, but I'm not 100% sure that means they're no longer made -- they seem to have chosen a different distribution model for this one.

When I think I'm really ready to buy, I'll call the local indie store and see if they can still get one, and whether they stopped carrying them due to setup issues with the one I tried last year (not sure if they sent it back, or if it sold).

I still love most demos of that bass, and the in-person experience was mind-blowingly good across-the-pboard in terms of feel, sound, and versatility.

Someone on eBay split the case from the bass (not cool, as Hofner ships WITH it) and raised the price above the expected $700 for the bass+case deal, under the pretense that the bass on its own is normally $1700 (or something like that). Separate shipping charges, of course. No way would I buy under those conditions; especially knowing of potential neck and bridge problems.
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#2896529 - Today at 02:05 AM Re: Ibanez Artcore Bass AFB200 Hollow Body [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Don't know if this is any help, Mark, but:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/hoefner_verythin_bass_ct.htm?ref=search_rslt_hofner+verithin+bass_245922_18

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