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#2888219 - 11/02/17 04:56 AM Forgotten guitarists...?
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List 'em here if you think of them. Those guitarists who made a kind of "splash" and then disappeared from sight and sound.

Two for me are JORGEN INGMANN, well known in Denmark as a jazz guitarist, who made a "hit" in the U.S. with his cover of The Shadows' "Apache" in '61

The clip I post here though is an example of what he was able to do otherwise and oddly, the video doesn't match the audio( odd clip). Inspired by Les Paul, Jorgen got into multi-tracking with his own studio built with LP's inspiration. He died just two short years ago. He does all the guitar parts in this clip:



My next entry is TRAVIS WAMMACK---
Still with us, but had a minor "hit" in '64 with this one---



But when guitar players past or present come up for discussion, these two never get mention.

Any others?
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#2888236 - 11/02/17 06:46 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Aldo Nova.



Exploded onto the scene with that video, did a few albums, then *pfft*
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#2888250 - 11/02/17 08:02 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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This is a list that could go way back but here's a semi-contemporary who not only defined much of modern rock but even directly inspired at least one of our greatest exemplars.

Jesse Ed Davis cool

His studio credits rival many from 1960's & 70's but most resemble Ry Cooder's, whom he succeeded in Taj Mahal's band.
In studio he played w/ everyone from Neil Diamond ~ John Lennon~ Eric Clapton~Rod Stewart.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xLluLQp6ms


Here he is inventing Duane Allman. Allman was a great guitarist but he & his career were defined by his discovery of Davis & thereafter adoption of slide gtr.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7elbEorxA



Here he is giving Jackson Browne a lift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsM7qCulsRM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3xAVDJQPMI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHyC9qldYb4
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#2888267 - 11/02/17 09:49 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: d]
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Maybe not forgotten but I do not hear his name much anymore Rory Gallagor (likely spelled wrong). Another one I always looked up to is rarely mentioned Roy Clark. Jim

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#2888280 - 11/02/17 11:32 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: jimmac]
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My old friend and mentor - Sam McGee

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#2888289 - 11/02/17 12:32 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: DocPate]
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+1 on Roy Clark Jim...excellent guitarist long before being on Hee Haw!

Here's my entry as most people just think of Charo as the cuchi cuchi girl, but she is an excellent guitarist:



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Edited by Larryz (11/02/17 04:29 PM)
Edit Reason: sp: cuchi
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#2888307 - 11/02/17 02:50 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Larryz]
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That's true, most people don't know that about Charo. I didn't either until just a few years ago.

But she would have been a better addition to a thread I attempted a few years back called "They also played guitar" about people who were famous for one thing but also were pretty good at playing guitar but never famous for it. Like:

GROUCHO MARX
JIMMY CAGNEY
WILLIAM SCHALLERT
DAVID CARRADINE(and brother Robert)
etc.
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#2888322 - 11/02/17 04:09 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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June Millington.
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#2888328 - 11/02/17 04:24 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Originally Posted By: whitefang
That's true, most people don't know that about Charo. I didn't either until just a few years ago.

But she would have been a better addition to a thread I attempted a few years back called "They also played guitar" about people who were famous for one thing but also were pretty good at playing guitar but never famous for it. Like:

GROUCHO MARX
JIMMY CAGNEY
WILLIAM SCHALLERT
DAVID CARRADINE(and brother Robert)
etc.
Whitefang


Charo was famous for it (i.e. playing guitar that is, taught by none other than Andres Segovia)...here's an excerpt from Wiki:

"As a musician, Charo has performed and recorded in various styles for five decades. She released a series of disco recordings in the 1970s with Salsoul Records, most notably Dance a Little Bit Closer (1970). In 1995, her flamenco album Guitar Passion (1994) won the Female Pop Album of the Year award at the Billboard International Latin Music Conference and was named best female Latin pop album by Billboard. In an interview Charo said "around the world I am known as a great musician. But, in America I am known as the cuchi-cuchi girl. That’s okay because cuchi-cuchi has taken me all the way to the bank."

I think she's a good addition to this thread...
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#2888335 - 11/02/17 05:19 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Randy Jackson, with Zebra-specifically this song-
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#2888356 - 11/02/17 08:22 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Originally Posted By: skipclone 1
Randy Jackson, with Zebra-specifically this song-


Loved that band, that man, and that song.
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#2888363 - 11/02/17 10:59 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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#2888372 - 11/03/17 03:14 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Originally Posted By: whitefang
That's true, most people don't know that about Charo. I didn't either until just a few years ago.

But she would have been a better addition to a thread I attempted a few years back called "They also played guitar" about people who were famous for one thing but also were pretty good at playing guitar but never famous for it. Like:

GROUCHO MARX
JIMMY CAGNEY
WILLIAM SCHALLERT
DAVID CARRADINE(and brother Robert)
etc.
Whitefang


On that topic, the Bacon Brothers Band-as in Kevin and his brother-have been regulars around the Hudson Valley area of New York for many years:

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#2888378 - 11/03/17 04:56 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: skipclone 1]
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OK, OK. I'll concede just a bit with Charo, even though she's not really a "forgotten" guitarist, at least not in the general public's view. Which is what I was sort of after.

I mean, in a guitar player forum most of these names AREN'T forgotten. But in a "Man on the street" sense, many have slipped people's minds. THAT'S what I meant. For instance, most, if not all, of us in here remember THESE two....but go out and about and ask around and you'll probably get blank stares. And THAT'S a shame....








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#2888380 - 11/03/17 05:01 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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I don't know if he's forgotten by those of us in our '60s, but maybe he's unknown to the younger set:
Amos Garrett; and also Otis Rush. Steve Cropper on all those soul records. And many others.
There are just not that many who are going to be remembered for generations after their mainstream careers are ended, unfortunately.
After all, Beethoven had many talented contemporaries, but how many of them are well known today?

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#2888384 - 11/03/17 05:25 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Eric Iverson]
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Well, LISZT, CHOPIN, ROSSINI and SCHUBERT come to mind, but I get your drift. There were more. But you gotta consider.....

The guys you mentioned were and STILL are well known among guitarists and even casual players, but were also, in their "primes", basically unknowns among the "mainstream" music audience, unlike EDDY, MACK, INGMANN and WAMMACK, who each had some level of "mainstream" popularity.
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#2888398 - 11/03/17 08:26 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Most here knew of Chet Atkins I'm sure, but among the most forgotten is his half-brother Jim Atkins who Chet admired.

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#2888444 - 11/03/17 12:25 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: DocPate]
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Brian Jones
He & Ian Stewart were the original founders of the Strolling Ruins.
While Mick'N'KR were tryna get a gig together BJ had been playing pro for a couple yrs.
In fact it was seeing him in action that set the other 2 on their certain blues, R&B path.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwc1X598ID4


Here he is helping break the band in the USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIIM2AZgCA


Brian introduces slide gtr to R&R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a3YjyOp8N8


He was by far (trailed by Wyman) the best musician in that band, w/ a grasp of instruments bordering on genius.

He wailed on harmonica at least as good as John Lennon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWC1wi3weE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BcJaUYE5Jw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YJXfcndyvU


Here he is breaking ground by plying a marimba on a pop record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6dM4eXdTw


He played on 1 or 2 Beatles tracks, "You Know My Name" (sax) & some credit him w/ the shenai on "Baby Yer a Rich Man" [ http://www.mojvideo.com/video-the-beatles-baby-you-re-a-rich-man/891dc870ac4bf73d0256 ].

But most of all he was a guitarist.
Here' he is laying his last track on slide gtr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rIqBeMZAMc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLJzU85_CYw
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#2888467 - 11/03/17 02:42 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: d]
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Good point d. Brian isn't only forgotten as a guitarist but also a multi-instrumentalist and these days even as once a founding member of the Stones. And that just sucks.

I actually run across occasionally a few here and there that confuse Brian Jones with Zeppelin's JOHN PAUL JONES! And then some who thought the two were BROTHERS!

And I remember seeing that performance of "Paint It Black" on one of them ED SULLIVAN shows I threaded about. Cracks me up Brian's sitar doesn't have any STRINGS. grin
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#2888509 - 11/04/17 05:03 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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When I was in high school, this late great former member of The Lovin' Spoonful was thought of as SO "cool".

Sadly, never made it too far on his own....



Every time I see SLASH anywhere I think of Zal 'cause HE wore some odd hats sometimes too. wink
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#2888545 - 11/04/17 09:20 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Here`s a name I bet will stir up some sediment-Terje Rypdal.
He had killer chops before killer chops was a term.
He is still kicking it into outer space, most likely his
passion for putting electric guitar in an orchestral setting is why
he isn`t getting the attention he deserves.


Here`s a show from back in the day, with Miroslav Vitous and Trilock Gurtu-no more need be said.


Edited by skipclone 1 (11/04/17 09:39 AM)
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#2888549 - 11/04/17 10:30 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Forgotten guitarists...? This maybe a little OT but I'm going to throw in guys like Jim Croce, James Taylor and Bob Dylan. They are very well known due to their hit songs (lyrics and vocals), but people forget what great guitar players they are. It doesn't take long to appreciate their chord work once you pick up a song book or two. The great singer songwriters out there (and there are many), using the guitar as their backing instrument, are forgotten maestros IMHO. cool
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#2888551 - 11/04/17 10:41 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Larryz]
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A great guitarist in a blah band - Vito Bratta.
Even at his most raging, the guitar just sang in his hands:




When the band's career came to a halt in the early '90s, he straight-up left the music business. I hear he went into the real estate biz.
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#2888555 - 11/04/17 11:12 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: skipclone 1]
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Originally Posted By: skipclone 1
Here`s a name I bet will stir up some sediment-Terje Rypdal.
He had killer chops before killer chops was a term.
He is still kicking it into outer space, most likely his
passion for putting electric guitar in an orchestral setting is why
he isn`t getting the attention he deserves.


Here`s a show from back in the day, with Miroslav Vitous and Trilock Gurtu-no more need be said.


He just got some coverage in one of the gtr mags I audit...back later w/ link.
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#2888595 - 11/04/17 02:52 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Larryz]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
Forgotten guitarists...? This maybe a little OT but I'm going to throw in guys like Jim Croce, James Taylor and Bob Dylan. They are very well known due to their hit songs (lyrics and vocals), but people forget what great guitar players they are. It doesn't take long to appreciate their chord work once you pick up a song book or two. The great singer songwriters out there (and there are many), using the guitar as their backing instrument, are forgotten maestros IMHO. cool


Heh! I thought of that briefly too, so let's go there as well. Right, those guys AREN'T forgotten EXCEPT for their guitar skills. Most people think of them in their singer/songwriting personas.

Like how many forget Bob Dylan's guitar skill AND vocal skill with this from his debut album?



Or Paul Simon's ability?




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#2888635 - 11/04/17 09:48 PM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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+1,000 on Paul Simon...he's the best of them all IMHO. If you lock yourself in a dark room and focus on the guitar parts of all of their greatest hits, you can't help but hear and appreciate a musical genius...at least I can't.

What happens when I am watching and listening to Simon and Garfunkel live, is I forget about Paul's guitar playing and get distracted. It's so much an integral part of the song that it just blends in and all of that beauty is flying by so fast in the harmony, melody, guitar work, lyrics, rhythms, etc., that I have to remind myself to focus on the guitar or I'll miss it... cool
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#2888652 - 11/05/17 05:05 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Larryz]
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like

That happens a lot with MANY others. wink

Now, another one "forgotten", or at least often overlooked even in here when the discussions get into the "greats". Which IS subjective, really...

Another one of my favorites with a favorite tune from one of my favorite albums. smile




Saw and met the man back in '73 before his recording career. Did a knock-out version of "When You Wish Upon A Star" that began and ended with so many "harmonic" notes played unbelievably rapid it still dazzles just thinking about it.
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#2888660 - 11/05/17 06:24 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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Luther Perkins of the Tennessee Two (With Johnny Cash)

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#2888661 - 11/05/17 06:24 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: whitefang]
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He's very cool and very smooth...If I could play like that, I would lock myself in a room and never come out till be fingers gave out! thu
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#2888689 - 11/05/17 10:19 AM Re: Forgotten guitarists...? [Re: Larryz]
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Y'know, whenever we talk about "slide" in here, we bring up Duane, Winter, Harrison and even Trucks.

But MATT ANDES never gets mention. SPIRIT bassist MARK's brother, listen to some of his work on a Jo Jo Gunne favorite of mine. wink


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