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#2883817 - 10/07/17 07:45 PM Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes
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Someone finally found some specs for the new Yamaha BB-Bass series:

https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/musica...ml#product-tabs

Prices are lower than before, and the mid-range model is now active, so the high-end model in some senses represents a 50% price increase on the old mid-range model, with significant improvements.

The BBP35 is the one I'd aim for, at $1600 vs. the $1100 paid for my BB-1025x (including a separately purchased hardshell case; the BBP35 comes with its own case). It's too bad it doesn't come in maple like the lower-end model. First time since the 80's that Yamaha has offered a maple fingerboard on a bass?

I never liked the ceramic "J" bridge pickup on mine and never solo that pickup. The new series uses standard pickups shapes and materials, so both are now Alnico V and can be swapped for other brands without much trouble. Some say the new "J" pickup is "too quiet", but as there are now separate volume knobs per pickup, I can't see that as being an issue. I never used the toggle anyway as I disliked the "J" soloed.

The body is now alder/maple/alder instead of all-alder, and the neck now blends the maple with mahogany instead of with nato. There are now six bolts, with the lowest two being beveled for a tight connection of the end of the neck with the body. Supposedly this gives more sustain.

Someone complained that the lighter tuning pegs can be individually tightened with an allen wrench anymore. I'm not sure I ever even took advantage of that on mine.

Not sure I'll go for this, but as the neck profile is said to be way more comfortable and as the lack of comfort on mine is a big reason why I only use it in the studio, I'm inclined to order the burst model (the "midnight blue" looks all-the-way black to me), and see if I even end up starting to use this bass at gigs and rehearsals.

I should point out that the music I do in the studio rarely overlaps with what I do live, and tends to cover an even broader range of styles. In the studio, the BB-Bass is my main bass, and I use the J-Bass models a lot too. Not sure why the P-Bass doesn't cut it as much for me in the studio as I consider it by far the most versatile live bass since it's good at everything and thus rarely seems like a compromise.
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#2887500 - 10/27/17 11:30 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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The low-end models in the series are getting super-negative reviews over at TB, and said to be a huge step down from the previous serious, with the new 700 series being the equivalent to the old 400 series and the new 400 series being poorly constructed and requiring multiple orders before getting a good one. The tuners are especially faulted as inferior.

Now I have cold feet on ordering the BBP35 as an "upgrade" from my BB1025X.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (10/27/17 11:30 PM)
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#2887590 - 10/28/17 07:45 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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The new review of the four-string high-end model published today in Premier Guitar magazine (UK) has removed all doubts:

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/2...erm=PG%20Weekly

I may call Kraft Music this week to see how soon they could get one in stock.

The pickups sound righteous. In lieu of a good photo of the Midnight Blue finish, I'd probably go for the sunburst.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (10/28/17 07:45 PM)
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#2887772 - 10/30/17 12:47 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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It definitely has the looks and the goods. Looks a little bit skinnier than the ones I remember. I had a fretless and sold it to buy an ABG. I wanted to send out one when I let one in, but I miss the BB615 I had. Still, I was not using it.
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#2889205 - 11/08/17 02:20 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Michele C.]
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Let me check them out. I still have my BB2004. Very cool basses.
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#2889463 - 11/09/17 10:57 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: TShakazBlackRoots]
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I have the dough and just need to wait for some credit to clear so I don't keep paying cash for everything instead of cycling debt.

I'll probably call Kraft early next week for an ETA. If it's a long wait, I may hold off as I have other things I could use on current recording projects where I wouldn't have to wait for a back-order.
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#2889610 - 11/10/17 01:07 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I just called Kraft, and no one has ordered one yet but they are confident of a 305 week waiting time for a fully pre-paid order (non-refundable).

I like that vendor and used them to order my Yamaha RevStar guitar and some keyboard items, but I'm going to see if a bass specialist has these, now that bass Northwest (where I bought my current BB1025x) is out of business.
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#2889614 - 11/10/17 01:13 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Zzounds expects Midnight Blue by 20 NOV and Vintage Sunburst by 8 JAN:

https://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMBBP35?siid=229538

I despise every picture I have seen so far of the Midnight Blue model, but in person it might look better. In photos, it looks black, and the white pick guard accentuates the weirdness of the cutoff shape, which I notice less on the Vintage Sunburst model.
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#2889618 - 11/10/17 01:27 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Sweetwater says their shipment will be a mix of both finishes and got delayed but is expected within a couple of weeks, so I am going to go ahead and do a pre-order through them as they also allow cancellations and returns.
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#2893697 - 12/02/17 04:12 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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No update on expected ship date. This is one of three rather expensive items that I pre-paid last month as pre-orders. The other two items are in the mandolin family. $5K altogether, with interest accruing, but I don't want to sell the items these are upgrades from, until a direct shootout.
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#2894007 - 12/05/17 12:58 AM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Got a call this morning that the BB Bass shipment finally came in, so mine will be sent out as soon as it is inspected. I might not have it physically at hand until next week though due to an off-site meeting on Friday, unless it arrives on Thursday.

Good timing, as I have now finished final bass takes on the songs that will use the J-Bass with flats vs. the ones that will use the BB-Bass with rounds.
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#2894102 - 12/05/17 12:05 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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They sent me photos as teasers before sending it off today. It should arrive next Monday.

Absolutely gorgeous grain and finish, so I'm glad I bought the burst vs. the so-called "midnight blue" that looks black in photos (but probably isn't) and which would hide the grain of the wood.
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#2895457 - 12/12/17 01:23 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Tracking says it has arrived. Will check our receiving dock after they get off lunch break.

I will be getting it inspected tomorrow after work. I can't plug in here, and took BART today so can't drive it home, but even unplugged, I should be able to judge whether I want to try NYXL strings on this bass, stick with the EXP's it comes with, or go with my favourite TI PowerBass set.
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#2895746 - 12/13/17 05:12 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Inspection found no problems, and instead we became ever more impressed with the engineering changes that Yamaha made since the last BB-series revisions.

Very focused sound up and down the neck, across the strings, and at every pickup blend and tone combination imaginable. These are excellent pickups.

The fingerboard relief is adjusted for the low strings vs. the high strings. There are six bolts, the bottom of two which are at a 45 degree angle, for maximum neck stability. Strings come out at 45 degrees as well, at the end of the instrument.

Although on-line lit says they ship with EXL's, it has something else that I don't care for (sticky texture). It appears to need Super Longs, so we'll slap on a standard EXL1705SL set, as the main problem with the "A" and "G" strings seems to be incorrect action vs. the wrong string tension.

That means it will initially go with .045/.065/.080/.100/.130 as we're concerned a heavier gauge might present some problems that it doesn't currently have.

You can still tell it's a Yamaha BB bass, but it has way more expressive and dynamic range than previous recent models, so once I can actually compare them side by side, it's highly doubtful I'll have any regrets, and thus I expect to put my BB1025x up for sale over the holidays.

The hardshell case is quite nice, and rare for Yamaha (even as an after-market sale; a major failing of that company). It even has gold hardware for some reason.

This is an absolutely gorgeous instrument. The wood grain is to die for, and the flame finish is about the most even of any I've ever seen -- whereas so many go to all-black too soon, and with narely a transition.
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#2897426 - 12/22/17 01:42 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Stephen did an excellent job of set-up, as always. Picked it up from his home studio yesterday afternoon, but am too gig-slammed for the next few days to have a chance to do a shootout vs. the BB1025x until late SAT or Christmas Day.

It is incredibly even up and down the neck, as well as across the strings. I've never played a bass this consistent before; except maybe an F-Bass or a Fedora.
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#2897943 - 12/25/17 09:34 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I just spent five hours comparing the two generations of BB-Bass on my own material (mostly) and some covers (from 60's through 00's).

The previous generation works better on stuff like early Stones, Creedence, and originals in that style, where a P-Bass with flats would do, but I sometimes write stuff that goes below the "E" so it was a dilemma what to do about the new generation BB not working well on that material.

Overall, the new model is infinitely more comfortable to play, so nothing else much matters as the pickups can now be swapped anyway (unlike before).

I have Infeld Super-Alloy strings on the BB-1025x, as I needed to tame its aggressiveness and brightness, but am using D'addario's on the new one, so perhaps I will switch to Infelds later on.

There is more body to the low string and the low register in general on the older generation BB-Bass, when using a neutral setting on an all-tube (power tube included; no hybrid solid-state) Mesa amp head and 15" speaker.

The new BB-series works MUCH better than the old, when playing with a plectrum, and even for many finger style approaches, but I felt that I only starting getting happy with it once going to 100% for both pickups vs. 100%/80% P/J, and then dialing the tone. I started at 100/80 with various tone positions and was distinctly unhappy across the board.

The problem is that it can get glassy, which the old series didn't, and with only the "P" pickup , it exhibits similar issues to regular P-basses with rosewood fingerboards and roundwound strings (I use maple and flats).

The Jazz pickup in the bridge is surprisingly more aggressive (as an Alnico V) than the ceramic pickup in the older series. I expected the opposite. But it is a tamable aggressiveness and is not overly bright, glassy, or otherwise unbalanced.

It is strange though, that I can't get it to sit in the mix for material that is less aggressive, where the BB-1025x really shines. But possibly that's due to the choice of strings, as the older BB didn't have much aggro-vs.-tame range until going to Infeld strings.

I'm putting the old one up for sale tonight on CL, then eBay in a few days. I'm a strong believer in making firm, focused decisions, and moving on, and I also have a one-in-one-out policy.

Probably I can adjust my amp settings for the songs where the BBP35 is currently not cutting the mustard. I'd rather have just one 5-string bass, as I prefer to discipline myself to stick to 4 strings these days, even when composing, and require super-strong justification for going below the "E" as the lower register can interfere with the kick drum.
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#2897970 - 12/26/17 05:59 AM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2898707 - 12/30/17 03:40 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: picker]
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What a joke eBay can be: it says my bass model typically sells for $250! Not even close if considering just the 4-string model (which usually goes for over $600 used). It says I have a very low chance of selling mind, even though offering a BIN meant I had to use a scarily low starting bid price (as there must now be a 30% differential, rendering BIN options almost useless anymore).
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#2898844 - 12/31/17 03:10 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Maybe eBay is right, even though a 1024x sold for $700 last week with no case and in unknown condition. My auction for the 1025x with case and in near mint condition has been up for a day now, with no watchers yet.

It's strange how few people know about Yamaha basses, other than their crap TRB line that GC sells.
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#2901474 - 01/11/18 06:00 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Surprisingly, the BBP35P was a big fail at rock cover band rehearsal last night. It may have just been because I obligingly plug into a Marshall solid state amp vs. bringing my own amp (host's request), one dude had a very boomy pickup sound on his Martin dreadnought, and the other guy had a very bass-heavy Les Paul type Ibanez for the evening.

The consensus was that I should return to my flatwound Precision Bass next week, even though the Yamaha is more aggressive and can get more trebly, which you would think would make it more appropriate for heavy rock and metal. But we do some Pink Floyd too, and Roger Waters used a P-Bass with flatwound strings and I really nail his sound when I do that.

The BB-1025x hasn't moved after two renewals. I guess Yamaha basses just aren't that well known, as my starting price is scarily low, given that it just has to accommodate the rules about differential for the BIN. I could get more than its starting price in trade. I'm about to give up on eBay as I am currently dealing with a psycho on one sale, and that ratio has been roughly 50% the past two years since pulling back from using the site much. Time to finally investigate Reverb.com more fully.
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#2902143 - 01/14/18 11:32 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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This has been an interesting read so far. Which bass will you end up selling, given your rehearsal-insights?
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#2902290 - 01/15/18 12:25 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: EddiePlaysBass]
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Oh, the one that's on eBay now, which is the BB-1025x. I blame the balance issues on plugging into a solid state guitar amp (not even a bass amp) per the bandleader's request (I lost all of my fight after I turned 50), along with a super-boomy Martin dreadnought amplified through a Fender Hot Rod amp via the piezo pickup, and then a Les Paul/Marshall player.

I keep hoping to get some of my final recordings done with this new bass, but have had non-stop distractions from a problematic eBay sale of an acoustic guitar, so have been focusing on keyboard work and also MIDI and notation based composing/arranging/recording while waiting for that three week ordeal (so far) to finally end.

When I was doing dry runs though, everything blended better than with any other bass. The best bass for gigs vs. rehearsals vs. studio work is not always the same bass; just as with any instrument.

The BB-1025x has 11 watchers at the moment (more each day), which is more than its first failed run, so I think it will sell this time. people don't like to bid when there's a BIN, knowing that the BIN then goes away and that their chances of winning diminish seriously at that point. But I'll re-offer it via the forum if it fails again.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (01/15/18 12:27 PM)
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#2902405 - 01/15/18 11:53 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I missed the part where the BL asked you to plug into a solid state guitar amp ...

I hear ya on gigs vs rehearsal vs studio work. Back in the days I recorded most of the blues band's demo using my Marcus Miller jazz bass, and one song with the Squier CV 50s Precision. The Squier sounded better, but was often too boomy for gigs (for my taste anyway).
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#2902561 - 01/16/18 12:40 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: EddiePlaysBass]
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Over at TalkBass, the latest post from someone who bought the new low-end 5-string model is now post-honeymoon and extremely negative, with comments similar to my experience at band practice last week, combined with very positive notes about studio recording.

I only bought this bass for studio work anyway, as I use the P-Bass for my jazz combo and no longer gig for 80's/90's tribute bands (where a 5-string is imperative). My current cover band is just a party band; no REAL gigs for money (or weddings etc.).
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#2903390 - 01/19/18 03:58 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Absolute craziness: it didn't even sell for $500, and was $1200 originally plus the extra $130+ case!

Based on my limited experiences over the past two years (I don't use eBay much anymore, and only do so because Craigslist generally gets ZERO response even after three months of renewals with price drops), I think eBay is now officially useless for individual sellers when it comes to real instruments.

My synth, however, got a bid within minutes of being posted, and has several dozen watchers. I think this is a reflection of the times, when electronic music dominates.

I guess I'll have to finally take the time to research reverb.com, or contact bass Central or one of the other few remaining bass specialty stores (most have closed over the past few years).
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#2904339 - 01/23/18 09:55 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I gave up on the bass and traded it at GC today for $75 more than my failed eBay starting bid, while keeping the case to sell separately.
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#2904340 - 01/23/18 09:56 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
Mark Schmieder Offline
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I used the P-bass at rock cover band rehearsal tonight, and it was a perfect match. The new Yamaha bass is just not going to work out in that particular band, but I bought it for studio use anyway.
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#2904345 - 01/23/18 11:25 PM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I think it's a terrible time overall for selling used instruments. On the other hand, it's a great time for buying them! I took a loss on my Ibanez last year, and will probably end up almost giving away the Palmer fretless.

Enjoy the BB !
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#2904438 - 01/24/18 11:16 AM Re: Yamaha's revised BB-Bass series: interesting spec changes [Re: EddiePlaysBass]
Mark Schmieder Offline
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Thanks, Eddie, and it's good to hear that it's not just me, or for instance the San Francisco Bay Area. That saves me time, as I'll keep in mind that this is the new norm -- for now (things tend to cycle) -- and account for it when deciding what to do with old gear.
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Select Strat, Select Tele, Am Pro JM, LP 57 Gold Top, RS520T, T486-RB, ES295, PM2, EXL1
WX5, XK1c, Voyager

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