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#2887714 - 10/30/17 12:33 AM Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s!
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Some musicians out there- after they figured out that metal and surf music are separated mostly by the effects the bands choose or eschew- have released a BUNCH of songs that are essentially Black/Death metal songs and played them as surf tunes. Some are pretty damn cool. The info section for most of them contain a fictionalized story about these “Trve Cvlt” surf bands from the 1960s.

Here are some examples:







Edited by Dannyalcatraz (10/30/17 12:34 AM)
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#2887723 - 10/30/17 04:38 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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All I can find out about any of this is a single release by a band called ALL THAT REMAINS called "Tru-Kvlt-Metal" from their album "The Order Of Things". Can't find any connection to this and any kind of surf music.

Your clips don't offer anything that holds interest for me except I should feel OK with these bands at least playing guitars. And the music not created from a computer file.

I guess.
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#2887747 - 10/30/17 09:32 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: whitefang]
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They sound surf to me DannyA. I hear a lot of Pipeline used for the background and cranked up clean reverberated guitars...I even heard a cut from Telestar (that well know black metal of death song LOL!)...Metal did come out at the end of the 60's so it probably did evolve from a lot of surf music. But Surf was more like these tunes in the 60's:





a couple of surf tunes my buddies and I still play from our 65' surf sets along with Pipeline, Wipeout, Walk Don't Run, Apache, etc...if it has the surf vibe, then it's surf LOL! I was 40 when I made my last surfing trip to Pismo in 1990. I walked into to the surf shop to rent a board for the day and the music they were playing was some kind of Reggae Surf, kool stuff Dude! thu


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#2887748 - 10/30/17 09:52 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Larryz]
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Oh, I know the guys doing this joke didn't get it spot on- most of it sounds like later era surf than early surf. But all things considered, I thing they did a good job translating black metal tunes into a genre that is- to be fair- diametrically opposed to it. I mean, you don't get much farther away from the doom & gloom inspired by frozen Northern Europe than the sunny beaches of California!
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#2887752 - 10/30/17 10:07 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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#2887760 - 10/30/17 10:46 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Larryz]
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And surf evolved out of traditional Lebanese, Greek, Turkish & Armenian tunes, when people traded in their bouzoukis for electric guitars. Dick Dale was Lebanese & Misirlu is a well known Middle Eastern folk tune.
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#2887777 - 10/30/17 01:17 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Yup!
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#2887795 - 10/30/17 02:31 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Some Surf definitely yes, however most of the 60's stuff had little to do with the middle east connection and more to do with home grown good old American rock and roll. The Beach Boys lead the way with the lyrics involving hot rods, love affairs, surfing, waves, high school, etc., and by stealing material from Chuck Berry LOL! But most of their stuff was original and there were others like Jan and Dean that made the scene. Songs like Little Duce Coup, Be True to Your School, Fun Fun Fun Taking the Tbird Away, Surfin USA, Surfer Girl, 409, In My Room, I Get Around, etc. You needed the California coast, and the babes, and a whole lot more than just the guitars to get inspired. +1 those guys back east definitely gave some good vibrations to the genre though... cool
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#2887798 - 10/30/17 02:39 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Larryz]
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Well, instrumental surf could fairly be considered to be a separate but related genre from the rest of surf music. Music by the Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, etc. have a very different sonic vibe than do the songs of The Ventures, Dick Dale and their fellow travelers.
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#2887802 - 10/30/17 02:47 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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I'm here for it - thanks, Danny!
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#2887805 - 10/30/17 02:52 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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I was a kind of odd duck in those days( still am some would say...) as I liked the surfin' stuff musically, Ventures, Surfaris and Chantays and The Beach Boys.....

And also was diggin' the folkie stuff comin' 'round by the mid '60's. Kingston Trio, Baez, Ochs, Dylan, Chad Mitchell and that. PLUS also all the other rock'n'roll stuff too. All at THE SAME TIME! My friends couldn't understand how somebody could like more than ONE kind of music. Sadly, many STILL don't understand that. grin
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#2887818 - 10/30/17 04:58 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
Well, instrumental surf could fairly be considered to be a separate but related genre from the rest of surf music. Music by the Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, etc. have a very different sonic vibe than do the songs of The Ventures, Dick Dale and their fellow travelers.


True, in addition to the eastern vibe on tunes like Caravan, Miserlou, etc. There was a lot of Latin influence on the instrumentals on tunes like Pipeline, Walk Don't Run, Baja, Tequila, etc., especially tunes with the Am G F E concept...now Wipeout is any bodies guess as far as the roots go, I think that's where the Bat Man theme must have evloved from LOL! Funny but Pipeline that forms the basis for many of the surf guitar backings in your videos Danny, was not written as a surf tune. The tune was renamed from Liberty's Whip after the Chantays watched a surf movie LOL! cool

and, then came Hawaii 5-0...


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#2887822 - 10/30/17 05:53 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Larryz]
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So very true! I suspect that their choice in song structure was partly to have something recognizable as a classic surf instrumental element, partly as a dig at the perception that surf instrumentals can sound kind of samey...and partly as a dig that the same critique is often lobbed at death metal and its subgenres.


Edited by Dannyalcatraz (10/30/17 06:02 PM)
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#2887855 - 10/31/17 04:53 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Say.....
Wasn't there something about surf music said in the Hendrix tune "Third Stone From The Sun"? wink
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#2887862 - 10/31/17 06:44 AM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: whitefang]
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Yeah: "So to you I shall put an end
And you'll never hear surf music again."
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#2888155 - 11/01/17 01:15 PM Re: Trve Cvlt surf bands from the 1960s! [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Here is some of my blues based Surf music from back in the day. (My stage name back in the day was Harvey Cedars)

Flat Surf Blues https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=8789091

Surf Rider https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=3043523

The Green Room https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=2880169
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