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Do we find hot keyboard solos in Reggae? #2885183 10/15/17 05:36 PM
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I have been covering "Jammin'" ever since I heard Monty Alexander covering "Jammin'" by Bob Marley back in 1999. Monty is from Kingston and is known for his style of Marley covers. Monty sometimes breaks into swing at the end of his arrangemenmts.
Now I wonder if Reggae music ever features hot keyboard/piano solos. I have not heard it. I assume the reggae keyboardists just comp and stay out of the soloist spotlight? I know how they comp in Reggae.



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IMO the most iconic reggae keyboard "solo" is the omni present Hammond on the live version of No Woman No Cry. I can't remember any other keyboards solo no matter how bad I scratch my mind...


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I used to play in some reggae bands in the 90s, my girlfriend thought it was cool but when she heard some of my older synth leads from prior bands she got pissed, because I was barely playing (by comparison) in the reggae bands. I had a few solos, but nothing worth writing home about. It was more of a "support the groove" type thing.

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Sure. Maybe not in Jamaican Reggae, per se. But, "Island Music" (Polynesian Reggae) is more pop-oriented. I had a fun solo with this song when I was with a Tongan band. Nice horn lead. Also, I sometimes played organ or piano solos on other songs, as well.
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FZ reggae style ... does that count ?

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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Do we find hot keyboard solos in Reggae?

If 'hot' means that huge crowds of people are ecstatically enjoying the music, then the answer is oh hell yes!


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If we're talking '70s roots reggae, consider that it's studio musician music: Great players mostly holding back a little, trying to turn out a bunch of good performances on the clock and not get the leader upset. So it's sort of like asking, "Do we find hot keyboard solos in Muscle Shoals/Stax/Motown music?"

In that context there's more "stealth soloing": little slick piano, clav, or organ fills woven around the vocal. Or memorable intros, like the organ in "No Woman No Cry," as mentioned above.

fwiw.

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You need to define 'hot' solo and define the era of Jamaican music you're talking about.

Reggae isn't really about playing chopsy solos for any instrument. But if you listen to Jackie Mittoo solo records you'll hear plenty of tasty lead lines. It ain't bebop but it's lyrical and tasty.

Of course Monty Alexander is killer but he wasn't one part of the Kingston studio bands of the 70s which I assume you may be referring to when you say 'reggae'. Nor is what he plays on most jazz records, (yes even his cover of 'Jammin') REALLY considered reggae.

If you broaden out to Rocksteady and Ska there are even more examples of 'solos'.


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I can't think of "hot" key solos in reggae. That concept seems to go against the basic vibe/premise of the genre.

When I think of hot keys and reggae the closest thing I can come up with is John Medeski playing the Bob Marley tune Lively Up Yourself, which is part of a medley with a Monk tune. Piano solo starts at 3:25. While not reggae at least it's a reggae tune.


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Yes not Regggae. We don't have a lot of solos like that because the music isn't built for it in that way. Remember a music like this is built on rhythm. A lot of guys want to play too much and the music suffers if you do. It's about a vibe and if anything takes away from it the music doesn't work. You could solo sometimes but I don't like a lot of stretching out and that jam band sound. Jackie Mitto's stuff is cool as a jumping off point but you need to listen to Tyrone Downie and Earl Lindo. They to me started what most reggae keyboard players kind of aspire to. Most Jamaican bands kind of keep things insular as maybe a cultural protection. I say that because Reggae from other parts of the world is not acknowledged except for the UK because so many people Caribbean migrated here. Here is an older video of us in 2015. You can here me accent parts at 4:49, call and answer to the singer:



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Yes not Regggae. We don't have a lot of solos like that because the music isn't built for it in that way. Remember a music like this is built on rhythm. A lot of guys want to play too much and the music suffers if you do. It's about a vibe and if anything takes away from it the music doesn't work. You could solo sometimes but I don't like a lot of stretching out and that jam band sound. Jackie Mitto's stuff is cool as a jumping off point but you need to listen to Tyrone Downie and Earl Lindo. They to me started what most reggae keyboard players kind of aspire to. Most Jamaican bands kind of keep things insular as maybe a cultural protection. I say that because Reggae from other parts of the world is not acknowledged except for the UK because so many people Caribbean migrated here. Here is an older video of us in 2015. You can here me accent parts at 4:49, call and answer to the singer:




You are far more knowledgeable than me in Reggae. Just one "objection" (very discutable though...)
I would consider Jackie Mittoo's solo record(s) a little less reggae and a little more "jam band/reggae" in a way. His recordings for most of the Studio 1 artists, were much closer to Tyron Downie/Earl Lindo style-bubbling and backbeat and the like.
I just believe that he recorded his solo work (i mean, without singers, or few of them) just to be able to fly a little bit outside of the reggae context
Just my thoughts

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Well he was a jazz guy first and those group of musicians that did a lot of the studio work like you said so I agree, that part is correct. A friend of mine in Bridgeport CT toured with him in Japan and said he was a great guy. If you look at the MPLA riddim on youtube for example it's basically a one, four, five but most musicians adjusted it and play it as just hanging on the one chord for the whole song. He definitely helped developed the style, there is no disputing that.




Jackies tune evolved where some artists took the line and bassline:



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Clavinet solo on Marley’s “Stir It Up”, Arp Odyssey all over “Heathen” and various other tracks...

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And those two songs they're not really solos though. The clavinet line in stir it up is mimicking the Baseline kind of like what we call a guitar Dead pick. As for Heathen it's just a lead line.

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Most traditional music have little or no solos at all.
Afro idioms have no solos (groovy guitars, lots of percussions, voices but no solos). The same, i think, goes for reggae, cumbia etc.
Salsa, on the contrary, is full of solos, but ony because it was created by latinos in NYC, people that were very well aware of jazz, funk and sooul. Latin aficionados don't even consider Salsa as w traditional idiom (other latin traditional music like chicha, cumbia, batchata, merengue etc, have very few or no solos at all).


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Yes that Latin/NYC thing was strong in the 70's and a lot of good percussionists and musicians came from that era.


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Originally Posted By: Outkaster
And those two songs they're not really solos though. The clavinet line in stir it up is mimicking the Baseline kind of like what we call a guitar Dead pick. As for Heathen it's just a lead line.
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And those two songs they're not really solos though. The clavinet line in stir it up is mimicking the Baseline kind of like what we call a guitar Dead pick. As for Heathen it's just a lead line.

Uh, no.

The original album version of “Stir It Up” has a full-fledged Clavinet solo after the second chorus, starting around 3:30.

And “Heathen” has some nice Arp solo work from around 2:00 onwards.

Also, lots and lots of great solo work on the live album “Babylon By Bus” - nice synth solo on “Exodus” at around 6:30, the fantastic Rhodes solo on “Stir It Up” from 2:30 onwards, and the outro to “Heathen” again.

Beautiful Rhodes solo on the end of “I Shot the Sheriff” on the “Live at the Lycaeum” album, as well.

Tons of great solos all over Bob’s catalogue. But the rhythm work is truly outstanding - check out the album “Talkin’ Blues” for some mind-boggling Hammond...


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