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#2884710 - 10/12/17 07:44 PM First actual paying gig in a decade (or two)
Tom Williams Offline
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After five weeks of 2 or 3 rehearsals per week, my new band is getting ready to play out for the first time.

This might be the first year since 1978 that I actually make more money from music than I spend on it. :-)

The group is vocally pretty strong, capable of tight 3- and 4-part harmonies due to a pair of twins, a guitarist and drummer who also have quite good singing voices. I'm the token baritone. A lady singer (from my defunct trio) rounds it out with both great vocals and excellent "front man" talents.

Average age of the band (depending on your calculation method): Mean age is 63, Median age is 68, Mode is 72 (the twins). Makes me feel young at 58 years.

Our first outing will be at the "Black Walnut Festival" in Spencer, WV.

Thank you, KC community, for the education I've received the past few years to help me prepare for this.
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#2884712 - 10/12/17 07:52 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Tom Williams]
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Nice! Have a great gig!

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#2884715 - 10/12/17 08:18 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: waygetter]
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Get out there and do it man!
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#2884735 - 10/13/17 02:14 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: matted stump]
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#2884736 - 10/13/17 02:36 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Frightful Mike]
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Good luck. Since it's a festival that probably means outdoors in a field. Have someone set up a camera in the middle on a tripod and shoot video. Doesn't have to be perfect, but it's nice to hear how things sounded afterwards. Zoom and Sony camcorders have the best sound.

Otherwise you pay the money to shoot a professional video in a studio. My 3DN tribute recently did this, costs $700. We showed up to the studio and played live into the board with 4 cameras rolling.


Edited by SkiGuy777 (10/13/17 02:37 AM)
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#2884740 - 10/13/17 03:54 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: SkiGuy777]
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Nice going, Tom! I'm sure you'll do a great job. Have fun!
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#2884755 - 10/13/17 05:45 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Tom Williams]
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cheers

I'm sure you'll have a great time.
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#2884760 - 10/13/17 06:26 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Synthoid]
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Love hearing this. All the best!
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#2884779 - 10/13/17 08:08 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Nadread]
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Have a really fun gig! I returned to playing in band about 9 years ago after a multi decade hiatus and I've been playing ever since.
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#2884788 - 10/13/17 09:00 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Bob L]
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Congrats and have fun!
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#2884810 - 10/13/17 09:58 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: richforman]
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2 or 3 rehearsals a week for 5 weeks - the band should be pretty tight. All the vocals should make for a great and unique sound. But everything changes when you get on stage. Can you do a couple of live gigs at local dive bars or other venues to try out the show? Just wanting to make a helpful suggestion. Good on ya. Go for it!
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#2884818 - 10/13/17 10:22 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: El Lobo]
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Good for you! Enjoy!

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#2884892 - 10/13/17 03:09 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: lightbg]
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Have fun!
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#2884923 - 10/13/17 07:16 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: El Lobo]
Tom Williams Offline
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Originally Posted By: El Lobo
But everything changes when you get on stage. Can you do a couple of live gigs at local dive bars or other venues to try out the show?
I would have preferred that myself, but no, this festival is our maiden voyage.
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#2885047 - 10/14/17 04:33 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Tom Williams]
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Please let us all know it goes! I'm sure you will have a great time.
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#2885049 - 10/14/17 04:38 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Bob L]
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Excellent. cool

Have a great time!
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#2885089 - 10/14/17 09:34 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: JerryA]
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Video or it didn't happen! grin

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#2885093 - 10/14/17 10:21 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Tom Williams]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Williams
Thank you, KC community, for the education I've received the past few years to help me prepare for this.


posts like this are why we exist. Rock on. rockit
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#2885101 - 10/14/17 11:12 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: count doerflera]
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Well, to quote Sam Gamgee, I'm back.

Ah, the Mistakes

We had a couple of rough spots, and one near train wreck, primarily due (IMO) to the short prep time (5 weeks) for two 45 minute sets of mostly brand new music (for me at least). A common problem this evening was confusion regarding transitions within songs, i.e., "was that 2nd chorus supposed to be followed with vamping or was it supposed to go immediately into a lead break?"

I personally had some rookie difficulties stemming from doing the sound set up with higher- versus lower-gain voices, which resulted in the quieter stuff being buried under the mix when things got loud. Gotta start including Gain Normalization in my standard pre-gig prepping.

Some Positive Notes

The provided sound services were very good -- separate monitor mixes on stage, easy sound check.

Vocals were pretty tight, impressively so.

My semi-ancient K2600 provided excellent piano and EP voices, plus a very nice plunky square wave for use on Rita Ora's "I will never let you down." The PC361 stacked above it was excellent for organ and "2nd guitar" sounds, but of the two, the older K2600 really carried a lot more accompaniment weight.

Best news of all was that despite the, um, synchronization difficulties we had at times, we're already booked to return to next year's festival (at higher pay) and might even get a good New Year's gig (at much higher pay) in just a couple of months.

So, it's back to woodshedding through the entire set list until we get 'em solid -- after which we'll resume learning new material.
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#2885103 - 10/15/17 12:30 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Tom Williams]
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That's a positive report for a first gig. Congrats, and keep the train running!
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#2885118 - 10/15/17 06:07 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: MaskOfInsects]
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That's a positive report for a first gig. Congrats, and keep the train running!
Exactly. It's really important that the problems you did have don't cause the band to retreat. I've seen that too many times. Keep at it, but don't stop playing out.

Congrats!

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#2885146 - 10/15/17 09:27 AM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Bone Muskeleton]
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Try to gig regularly, even if only once a month. You will become much tighter. It's almost impossible to rehearse tightness past a certain point.
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#2885180 - 10/15/17 01:07 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: count doerflera]
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Originally Posted By: count doerflera
Originally Posted By: Tom Williams
Thank you, KC community, for the education I've received the past few years to help me prepare for this.


posts like this are why we exist. Rock on. rockit


+1 Experience counts immensely as always but especially when focused. Sounds like a well experienced band but perhaps not with each other maybe. All that aside, relax and have fun.

Curious, what made you decide to join/form this band after such a long break from gigging?
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#2885207 - 10/15/17 05:18 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Tom Williams]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Williams
Well, to quote Sam Gamgee, I'm back.

Thanks for the gig report, Tom. Congratulations - seems like it was very successful!

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#2885209 - 10/15/17 05:28 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: Cower, Boy! NQ]
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Tom,

Major ups and congrats for getting back on the stage after such a long hiatus!

Sounds like you did very well, so be very proud of the hard work and rehearsals and everything.

It sounds like you have a good, balanced perspective on the performance, the good and the things you can do even better the next time. That's awesome.

Keep having fun with it, and don't be bashful to show the audience you're having fun - whatever that looks like for you and your bandmates. Audiences listen with their eyes, and seeing a bunch of mates having themselves a blast on stage is so much more enjoyable than a crack band that's stone faced.

Wonderful stuff, mayne - keep it going!
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#2885216 - 10/15/17 06:57 PM Re: First actual paying gig in a decade (or two) [Re: aellison62]
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Originally Posted By: aellison62
Curious, what made you decide to join/form this band after such a long break from gigging?


It was gradual. I'd been doing multiple duties at church (drums, keys, FOH mix, streaming mix, happily no two at the same time) all along. A couple of years ago I got involved locally with Open Mic nights at a local eatery. Got added to a duo from Open Mic to make a trio. Duo broke up.

The remaining two of us from that duo were invited to join this re-forming band, and it musically clicked pretty well.

Originally Posted By: timwat
Keep having fun with it, and don't be bashful to show the audience you're having fun - whatever that looks like for you and your bandmates.
I can't conceal it even if I try to -- when I play out, I tend (quite unconsciously) to jump around like a nine-year-old with springs in his shoes. With a pair of arthritic or gouty big toes, I pay the penalty for that later.
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