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GAS decision problem - need outside opinions #2862294 06/22/17 10:59 PM
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So, I've been playing for ... *does math* 29-ish years.

After my first couple of years I saw Victor Wooten and I dreamed of having a Fodera. Yes, I know having a Fodera won't make me play like Wooten (pretty sure he's not even human). But that flame maple top with the gold hardware was just gorgeous.

Anyhoo, I'm in a place where I might be able to get one. But I'm torn, because I know they are just silly-overpriced, and I would also love to have a nice Fender Jazz.

For that matter, I need new gear. My amp is a solid state Peavey from 1990, and is pretty much shot. I have an ART effects rack... also pretty much shot.

I can't afford it all.

Shout out your own opinions - whatever they may be. Hopefully they may help me clarify what I really want.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2862327 06/23/17 08:47 AM
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In your situation....Amp, definitely Amp.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: lug] #2862375 06/23/17 12:27 PM
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Agree...amp first. I'm a big fan of using PA gear for bass. Boutique amps and speakers boast about how they have such a flat frequency response just like...like...good PA gear, but cheaper than boutique bass gear. Pre-amp of your choice to put the appropriate dirt back in.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Paul K] #2862469 06/23/17 09:51 PM
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I started leaving my amp at home a long time ago. I use the SansAmp programmable bass driver DI and run through a powered wedge (QSC K10).


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Since I'm a practical and budget conscious family man, +1 on the SansAmp DI if you play through a PA already.

You want a Jazz, you want a Gold Fodera with matching hardware, why not buy or build a J-Bass with gold hardware, it's gotta be less expensive.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Bottom End] #2862523 06/24/17 09:26 AM
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Generally speaking, a good amp will make an average bass sound better. A crappy amp will make a good bass sound bad.

Buy the amp -- lots of great choices, make sure you get PLENTY of power, great stuff on the used market. Then start saving for the Fodera.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: jcadmus] #2862965 06/26/17 08:07 PM
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As someone who spent years using a debatable-quality amp and a very nice MIA Fender Jazz, I can say that having invested in a great cab (Barefaced) and a very nice amp (Orange Bass Terror 500) I am very happy I finally took the plunge and invested in the amp-side of things.

Yes, it is less fun. I use neither the head nor the cab frequently, since I practice through headphones. Would love a Warwick (a real one) or a Mayones fretless. But I am so incredibly happy to have put the money towards the amp and cab - it really DOES make a world of difference.

Shame no one will ever get to hear it, cos I always pick bands that go nowhere fast grin


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: EddiePlaysBass] #2863743 06/29/17 10:27 PM
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Amp.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Basshappi] #2864091 07/02/17 08:20 PM
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Update:
Yesterday I picked up a sansAmp NYC stompbox, since the majority of what I do is at church, just plugged into the system.
However, I do have a big show in early November (we've already started rehearsals :-/) and I think you guys are right - I need an amp.
I've been "Freddy Freeloader" when it comes to gear... yeah, I'm that guy...

Anyway, does GK still make quality amps?

Oooh, on a somewhat separate-but-related topic, what can I do with the old combo amp. It works, but just not well.
The old ART Nightbass effects unit (and foot controller)... it also works, but not well... I don't know what to do with those things either.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2864104 07/02/17 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chewbubba

Anyway, does GK still make quality amps?


yes

Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2864212 07/03/17 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chewbubba
Update:
Oooh, on a somewhat separate-but-related topic, what can I do with the old combo amp. It works, but just not well.
The old ART Nightbass effects unit (and foot controller)... it also works, but not well... I don't know what to do with those things either.


Put them on The eBay or The Craigslist.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: jcadmus] #2866359 07/12/17 02:28 PM
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Get an amp.

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Fender put GK out of business but he's up & running again under his own name of Genzler and they are as good or better.

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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2867369 07/17/17 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chewbubba
Update:

The old ART Nightbass effects unit (and foot controller)...


Wow! That was a totally over-the-top piece of gear when it came out. Sure you don't want to just clean it up and keep it around?


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Paul K] #2877238 09/05/17 04:36 PM
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Did you actually have an opportunity to get your hands on the Fodera?


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Originally Posted By: zeronyne
Did you actually have an opportunity to get your hands on the Fodera?


No. The GAS has passed. Lol. I really like the bass I have, I decided I'm not going to drop that amount of dough on a bass. Especially since I'm not getting any younger (pushing 50 already).

Originally Posted By: Paul K
Wow! That was a totally over-the-top piece of gear when it came out. Sure you don't want to just clean it up and keep it around?


The low-Z jacks are all loose and buzz and I can't get it all the way apart to try to resolder them. The are attached directly to one of the circuit boards.

On a side note, I might be getting an amp and cabinet Wednesday. Any amps/cab I should AVOID?


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2878910 09/13/17 03:44 PM
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Too late. I found a Markbass 800w class D amp and a Markbass 4 x 10 cabinet in my trunk. ;-) Sounded killer at the store. Can't wait for my neighbor's complaints.
One question - would it be smart or dumb to stick casters on the cabinet? Or should I just buy a dolly (heavy stuff + my back = a couple weeks of suffering). [Edit: Nevermind - that cab is SOOOOO light... not an issue)



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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2879194 09/14/17 03:00 PM
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Get casters or a dolly anyway -- you'll be surprised how heavy a light cab will get if you have to schlep it too far.

Nice rig -- I've really liked all the Markbass stuff I've played and heard.


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Nice. I have the 300/500 watt option with two 1X12 cabs. Crazy loud even with one cab running and really, really light. That thing is going to peel some paint. Enjoy.

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Congrats, Chewbubba. But would you mind turning it up a notch or two? I can't quite hear you over here in Maryland.


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Danzilla] #2879482 09/15/17 04:39 PM
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Dolly. Casters don't travel well on bumpity paths.

I said buy a dolly. Casters don't travel well on bumpity paths


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Yeah, this weekend was the first time hauling that thing around. While I could carry it one-handed, over a long distance I was wishing for wheels or a dolly.
I think dolly might be the way to go - I have to hop a curb every weekend.

And yes, that thing is flipping loud! Love it!

What do you guys do about rain?


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Re: GAS decision problem - need outside opinions [Re: Chewbubba] #2880089 09/18/17 10:25 PM
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I have covers on all my speaker cabinets. My bass head is in a case.

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Okay. I found "ears" to mount the head in my rack (there will be plenty of room after I pull that ART Nightbass unit out of there), as well as a cover for the cabinet.

Thanks for all of your help and opinions folks!


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Oh GAS, how I know thee. I've gotten a lot better. I have my Roscoe 5 and a G&L JB-2 my wife got for a ridiculous deal as an alternate/back up bass. Everything else is gone. I feel pretty good.
I'm going to update my amp from a Genz Benz Shuttle that I've had for a long time to a new Genzler MG800/BA12-3 cab. I usually have FOH and IEM's so the Genzler should suffice for hime practice and occasional jazz quartet gigs.

Took me a while to get to this "happy place" but it's nice to just grab my bass and go. I think after I update my amp I'll feel the same. It's a nice place to be. I hope I'm old, wise and disciplined enough to stay here a while and realize what great gear I have and that it does all I need to do.

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Thats a nice rig - health to play. I put casters on everything not wee ones - big heavy duty jobs therefore no bother on most surfaces. To get the coupling effect yo may want to put the cab on its side for playing. I prefer the sound of it floating on the casters though to my ears there is less boom and more clarity, thats a personal choice though!!


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