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#2878109 - 09/09/17 08:52 AM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Phil does a great job of showcasing these pianos in v.6. I'm drawn to the Steinway B, but in his hands there are others I like better.



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#2878118 - 09/09/17 10:17 AM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: burningbusch]
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Yeah, Phil is really a great ambassador for PT6. When I listen to him play, I get reminded of pianistic ideas that I haven't played on an electronic instrument because the nuance just wasn't there.

I didn't get the email (yet) but thanks to this thread I picked up my update. Overall it sounds more cohesive than version 5. CPU is clearly much more stable on Mainstage (not necessarily lower for me, but I might have more complicated patches, than I did before) as David mentioned. Sweet! thu

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#2879233 - 09/14/17 12:30 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: JerryA]
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Finally found an email in spam that had come in a couple of days ago while I was off the grid in Idaho farm country. The upgrade cost is the same for Pro users ($39), which was a relief.

While I was add it, I completed my add-ons by purchasing Grotrian. It's interesting to see that that one, and both Steinway B and Steinway D, are now re-branded with official endorsements.

Didn't have a chance to try it yet -- hopefully tonight. Too busy downloading and installing Superior 3, which is humongous.
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#2879576 - 09/15/17 08:55 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Finally had a chance tonight to download and install this new version. I can't believe how good it is. Best $39 dollars I ever spent on a VST hands down. The acoustic pianos are bigger, fuller, although there is still a difference from an excellent sampled piano.Very happy with the Steinway D. What I didn't expect is how good the EP's sound now. The Rhodes Mark I and Mark II are significantly improved, and I actually like the Wurlitzer now, never cared for it before. I'll never like the Clavinet so I didn't spend but 2 minutes with that. Models still aren't going to replace samples for pure authenticity, but the play ability is great and the CPU load is small. This is a must upgrade for anyone who owns Pianoteq, it's the same price to version 6 no matter what version you currently own.
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#2879588 - 09/15/17 10:25 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: davedoerfler]
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+1 Thanks for the reminder Dave. Been away and had not gotten around to upgrading.

The faint metallic string noise on the lower octaves seems to be gone and 6 sounds fuller and better balanced. Every patch I have in 5 is modified, if only to turn reverb off, so it will take a little time to do a full side by side comparison.

But on first play I may not bother, just retweak in 6 and enjoy, PT is just so good to play no point wasting time searching for subtle differences.

CPU usage on my machine has fallen from 30% in 5 to 24% in 6.
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#2879737 - 09/16/17 11:22 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: Phreakay]
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Originally Posted By: Markay

CPU usage on my machine has fallen from 30% in 5 to 24% in 6.


I didn't measure it myself but at 20% drop in CPU usage is of major significance. Thanks for that info, Mark.
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#2890269 - 11/14/17 01:07 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Definitely less CPU-intensive since this update. In fact, I now use it as my first piano plug-in until I am ready to do final rendering, for that very reason.

Although v6 is a huge step forward, the very most recent (and ONLY the very most recent) sample libraries have finally surpassed it in realism, but nothing beats Pianoteq for getting realistic phrasing right out of the gate and for capturing a good initial performance if live playing will be a big (or only) part of the final score.
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#2912777 - 03/02/18 08:39 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Hope Elmer doesn't mind me stealing his job wink ...
Pianoteq 6 has just been announced.

following up on this, 6 months later...Modartt news (2 March 2018) - Pianoteq 6.1 available.
Version 6.1 introduces a new spatialisation technique which brings more air and presence to the instruments, increasing realism. Minor re-voicing has also been done on some instruments/presets.
Furthermore, new features are introduced along with support for the NKS (Native Kontrol Standard) extended plug-in format from Native Instruments.
update is free of charge. thu
https://www.pianoteq.com/home

I am downloading now so I don't have any opinion yet.
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#2912812 - 03/03/18 06:35 AM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Sounds like the update addresses two areas of concern in the mid octaves on all the pianos Iíve tried. Iím looking forward to hearing this! Thanks for the heads up.
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#2912875 - 03/03/18 01:09 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: Clawback]
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I updated mine a day or two ago, and hope to spend time today going over some of it to hear what is different, as their notes were rather vague about which instruments are affected by the upgraded features.

I always turn off the Reverb and most of the other effects as well, even though they have gotten better over the years, as I always have better stuff available to use during production.

The spatialisation techniques new to 6.1, however, seem to be at the level of the model rather than related to improvements in the effects (which also have been done for this release), so I suspect all or most instruments (including bells and vibes) will be affected by this update.
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#2913097 - 03/04/18 11:29 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: Clawback]
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Originally Posted By: drawback
Sounds like the update addresses two areas of concern in the mid octaves on all the pianos Iíve tried. Iím looking forward to hearing this! Thanks for the heads up.


I used Filters in my DSP Mixer and mic placement to alter middle octaves.
But 6.1 really does have better control now so my work arounds arenít needed.

Iíve never had CPU issues.
I use 2 layers of Pianos and EPianos from Kontakt, PianoTeq and Keyscape.
Keyscapes Digital eps, Rhodes, Wurlitzer and MKS Blend well with PianoTeq and Canterbury.
3 layers is too much but 2 is perfect.

Pianoteq is really sweet with Upright and Keyscape Upright.
Best layer is 8DIO Clavinet and PianoTeq D6.
Better than a real Clavinet.

Love PianoTeq.
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#2913593 - 03/07/18 02:53 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: hardware]
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The Tubular Bells are much improved. More consistency, so they sit better in the mix, cut through better, and sound more realistic; more three-dimensional and more accurate in the harmonics.
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#2913633 - 03/07/18 10:42 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Pianos can be easier to adjust mic placement now too.
The difference of sound on my K12s and SSv3 sub stack is different so I always made 2 similar instruments for acoustic pianos.
Other instruments were fine but the APs were finicky.
I tweaked mic placements with noticeable improvements.

Also feel like some developers are reallly giving us great updates.
I noticed Omnisphere/Keyscape, Kontakt and now PianoTeq are using 20% of my i7 4790k CPUs.
And only see maybe 10% across all Cores?
2 years ago this was at least double the current IPS.

This makes me want to try cooler quieter solutions like this.

https://www.eteknix.com/asus-launches-prime-j4005i-c-gemini-lake-soc-motherboard/

Cheaper, quieter and cooler.

Thanks developers for optimizing our apps.
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#2946704 - 09/05/18 11:56 AM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Just purchased Pianoteq Standard online.
Registered, have a download link.
It's asking me to choose my two instruments now.
I click - it asks me to choose Acoustic Pianos, Electric Pianos, or Chromatic Percussion. So I choose Acoustic pianos, then I'll click validate.

So, what should I expect to see next? Which piano models I want? Any recommendations? I know I like the two most recent Grotrian and Steingraeber. Would I be missing out on the Model D, Bluthner or others?

Thanks for the advice.
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#2946706 - 09/05/18 12:19 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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If I had to select only two it would be the Steinway B and Grotrian Concert Royal. Having said that they are all really good.

To activate:

https://www.pianoteq.com/activation_help
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#2946715 - 09/05/18 01:05 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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if you choose acoustic, then Pianoteq delivers the model D and K2, which is a Pianoteq hybrid. Everything else is in demo mode, and then can be purchased separately at your convenience
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#2946734 - 09/05/18 02:37 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: davedoerfler]
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Thanks! Helpful!
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#2946768 - 09/05/18 07:09 PM Re: Pianoteq 6 Released (Sept 6, 2017) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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If you like the sound of Rhodes, Wurlitzer and Hohner, I would suggest you select Electric Pianos now and later add the Steingraeber and the BlŁthner for acoustics.

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