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#2871495 - 08/07/17 02:32 PM Introducing Waves Clavinet
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http://www.waves.com/plugins/clavinet

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Accurately sampled from one of the funkiest keyboards ever created: the iconic D6 model Clavinet famous for its percussive playability and gritty sound.

The original Clav has always held a special appeal in funk, fusion, rock and soul music for its unique melodic twang and sonic versatility, from brilliant, vibrant, nitty and gritty to soft, rich, mellow tones.

For this instrument, we meticulously sampled every texture, articulation and hammer tip string-striking mechanic of the authentic D6 Clavinet in both the muted and unmuted modes, recreating all the dynamic control, feel and expression of the original funkified icon.

Using only a few controls, you can achieve an array of deep sonic textures, capturing the distinctive timbre of the Clavi’s unique single-coil pickups. Choose from the selection of factory presets, featuring patches modeled after Stevie Wonder’s “Superstition,” Billy Preston’s “Outta Space” and other classic songs; or shape your own tones using the built-in auto-wah, amp overdrive and other effects.




Intro price: $29


Edited by Joe Muscara (08/07/17 02:33 PM)

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#2871497 - 08/07/17 02:35 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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P.S. IMNSHO - that is the worst demo I might ever have heard. I really don't dig that style At All, and it tells me nothing about how this Clav sounds compared to some of the classic Clav sounds they even mentioned in their text. I'm sure it will appeal to those who are into this modern style, but that ain't me.

Get off my lawn.

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#2871514 - 08/07/17 05:19 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Totally agree, not my cup of tea at all.

I can only assume that the marketing blurb writer was not involved in the creation of the video.

However, maybe this direction was intended and is actually a stroke of genius? I guess most clavinet fans already have a pretty good VI in their DAW, and will know how it sounds playing funk/soul licks from Stevie etc. So perhaps Waves demoing their new VI from a completely different angle - geared more towards (younger?) folks producing modern music, rather than recreating vintage sounds - is a smart move? Just putting it out there...

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#2871518 - 08/07/17 05:40 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Kawai James]
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Who would've ever thought that playing that far out of time would ever be "in"?

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#2871521 - 08/07/17 05:59 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Jonathan Hughes]
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That demo was pretty bad imho too. He's not playing behind the beat, the latency sounds awful, not compensating at all. The mix is poor and we get hardly any idea of what this product is capable of. I also can't imagine that maudio controller feels much good to play, My guess it feels a lot like their previous keystation models.
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#2871523 - 08/07/17 06:19 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Ha! I just listened and felt guilty about feeling negative about the playing. Came rushing back here to claim my validation reward.
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#2871528 - 08/07/17 07:09 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: kelp]
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Liked the style, the samples suck, the meter was God awful.
But I never diss a cat trying to step outside the norm.
Just wish he could groove with the cheesey kit better...

You get what you pay for.
I'll buy 6 and stack them..
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#2871536 - 08/07/17 08:16 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: hardware]
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Thank God I'm not the only one! This dude was nowhere NEAR the groove...

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#2871545 - 08/07/17 10:13 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: John W. Watilo]
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Waves succeeded that we are not discuss about the quality of this plugin but about the quality of the demo... idk

I received an email from Waves last night(europe) with this plugin but i did not start a topic because i didn't like the demo at all...

I have Waves cp 80 and wulri plug ins and i like them a lot, but what can i say about this one ?


Edited by UnderGroundH (08/07/17 10:21 PM)
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#2871546 - 08/07/17 11:02 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Interesting thing: the piano and bass parts sync witht he clavinet pretty well for most of the demo - rather, the beat seems to be off.
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#2871547 - 08/07/17 11:02 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Interesting thing: the piano and bass parts sync with the clavinet pretty well for most of the demo - rather, the beat seems to be off.
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#2871552 - 08/07/17 11:57 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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There's a bit of a walk through here:



Waves provides a fair amount of processing for the price. Their Clavinet is not going to convince you to give up your copy of Keyscape, but it looks like a good value at $29.

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#2871553 - 08/08/17 01:52 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I thought his playing was pretty funky and groovy... idk

I know my head was noddin' along, which is the whole point of that kind of post-hiphop stutter-beats anyway.

Seems like a nice plugin for the price, but if you had to pay $30 for every type of sound or instrument you need, it could quickly get out of hand.
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#2871557 - 08/08/17 02:54 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: zephonic]
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The music in the demo may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I can appreciate the effort of doing something different on a clav.

However, the text in the announcement had no correlation to the video whatsoever... Marketing 101.
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#2871558 - 08/08/17 02:57 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: zephonic]
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Having purchased a few of the Waves Vi's I have given up on them.

I keep a backup laptop which mirrors my main machine and Waves licensing allows only one install per license so you can double or treble the price when comparing them to their competitors that allow 2, or 3 concurrent installs per license.

There is nothing I hear in their VI's that makes them compellingly superior to the competition.

May be different for studios using their effects plugs.
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#2871567 - 08/08/17 05:11 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: kelp]
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Originally Posted By: kelp
I just listened and felt guilty about feeling negative about the playing. Came rushing back here to claim my validation reward.


Yeah really.

Gotta love this place for that. smile
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#2871579 - 08/08/17 05:46 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Synthoid]
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Another vid demonstrating range of effects
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#2871645 - 08/08/17 12:10 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Markay]
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#2871648 - 08/08/17 12:33 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: zephonic]
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Originally Posted By: zephonic
I thought his playing was pretty funky and groovy... idk

I know my head was noddin' along, which is the whole point of that kind of post-hiphop stutter-beats anyway.


It's the little "triplets" he inserts in there that throws it off for me. Makes it sound kind of like "glitch funk" if that makes any sense. I guess my personal musical psychology never adjusted to this. I prefer classic 70s funk. Get off my lawn, and all that. smile

No, but... really, that cat can groove and it's cool. It's his thing.
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#2871661 - 08/08/17 02:35 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: synthizen2]
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Ouch the timing of that snare drum type sound is terrible...
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#2871662 - 08/08/17 02:44 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
it looks like a good value at $29.


was my first thought, although I'll pass as I've no need.
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#2871663 - 08/08/17 02:46 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: SteveQB]
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Awesome. Someone thought that a "shreds" vid would make a good demo I guess....

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#2872228 - 08/11/17 12:00 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Man, I'm laughing at the abundance of negativity in these comments. laugh Personally, I thought it was short, but great. He's a young guy, so he's doing something "contemporary" with an old-school sound. What was he supposed to do, play some generic autowah funk, a bit of "Superstition"?

I will always love the sound, but the Clav is probably one vintage instrument that has aged the worst.

This instrument library in itself is pretty pointless - and I tend to think most keyboard libraries are, after Keyscape... I haven't been that impressed with Waves' instruments in general, I have both the Rhodes and the Electric Grand, and they're pretty weak - they're cheap though.

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#2872303 - 08/11/17 07:41 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: BRW]
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I'm at work and can't listen/watch. Does it have the release samples?

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#2872322 - 08/11/17 08:46 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: vonnor]
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OY! That sounded like a session that I did a few weeks ago. All the tracks were there except my organ track. The damn tracks were so out of time that I had a very hard time coming up with something inspiring. The engineer sensed my frustration and turned on the click track, which made the off time even more apparent. I asked him to turn it off as it was just confusing me. Absolutely the worse session I played on in 45 years!

This demo absolutely sucks. Who the hell produced this?


Edited by HammondDave (08/11/17 10:38 AM)
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#2872327 - 08/11/17 09:05 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: HammondDave]
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I think they are just setting up the market for a quantizing app.

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#2872336 - 08/11/17 09:51 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: lerber3]
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That demo definitely represents how clavinet is being used in the modern context of music (R&B, Neo-Soul, Hip-Hop and funky Jazz).

These younger muso cats have moved beyond the 70s style of clavinet playing. Personally, I dig it. YMMV. cool
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#2872355 - 08/11/17 10:36 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: ProfD]
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Originally Posted By: ProfD
That demo definitely represents how clavinet is being used in the modern context of music (R&B, Neo-Soul, Hip-Hop and funky Jazz).

These younger muso cats have moved beyond the 70s style of clavinet playing. Personally, I dig it. YMMV. cool


You mean that playing wildly out of time is now "hip"? Damn, I was born 50 years too soon!
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#2872359 - 08/11/17 10:57 AM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: HammondDave]
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It's not out of time...
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#2872421 - 08/11/17 03:37 PM Re: Introducing Waves Clavinet [Re: zephonic]
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Definately not. I like it a lot , would have picked a wurly for the solo but the clavi does not sound bad at all

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