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#2869315 - 07/26/17 12:51 PM Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool!
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IK now offer a free version.

It comes with a few presets for all 17 instruments. Not a whole lot, but it's a good place to try it out as long as you desire.

It's own instrument browser is cool, letting you stack 4 instruments with different layers, etc..

I have been testing it inside Mainstage.

On the instruments themselves, almost every single button and knob is assignable to hardware. In my testing I have been using my Arturia Keylab 61.

So far, the sounds are fantastic. The "DRIFT" technology appears to work.
Playing around with the OBX-a and Mini for now, they get that unclean sound, as I call it, that I remember from way back in the day.

They sound more real to me than my Arturia versions that I have compared so far Jupiter 8 and Mini Moog.

They are fat!

The nice thing, if you don't care to have ALL the patches for all 17, you can purchase individual instrument packs.

Anyway, just thought I'd pass it along that you can play with it for free before dropping $$$
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#2869343 - 07/26/17 05:38 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Agreed. I think they did a decent job.

For folks who want the flavor of classic sounds but don't want to get into synthesis beyond a couple of envelopes and a filter (plus a boatload of effects), it's worth a look.

The Andromeda patches are yuuuge.

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#2869344 - 07/26/17 05:46 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: johnchop]
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I agree it does look like it's more than the sum of its parts. In fact, the sampling work with their Sample Tank engine, custum GUI for the instruments, and the pitch drift add up to a pretty nice sounding collection. I think maybe Geoff Grace got in on the early pricing. I wonder if he's had time to play with it.

Here is the most recent run through from Jordan.



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#2869473 - 07/27/17 10:05 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
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#2869587 - 07/28/17 05:10 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
I'd start by asking you, Mr. Golly. poke

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#2869596 - 07/28/17 06:10 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
I'd start by asking you, Mr. Golly. poke


It's a pretty good run through of the software, regardless of Rudess taking the gig or not. Seems like a nice enough guy. Successful musician, husband and father, lover of synths if you've ever seen his home studios (studioS, I believe he has an A and B studio at home). Into iOS for music making as well. A perennial at NAMM. The guy is one of us for sure. And I'm not even a fan of the style of music he focuses on, but it's not hard to give someone credit where credit is due. I think there are a lot of guys here that would take endorsement deals and demo gigs if the phone were ringing. Does Chris Martirano get shit for the plethora of demo gigs he takes with all the keyboard developers and dealers? Surely he dwarfs Rudess in this regard. Maybe it's that we're under the impression Rudess doesn't need these gigs because he makes enough money from Dream Theater? I dunno. But yeah, I get it... another Rudess demo. wink
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#2869638 - 07/28/17 09:39 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Thanks for the posts and thoughts about Syntronik. With regard to Jordan, I appreciate the comments and agree with ElmerJFudd that Jordan is indeed giving a good demonstration of the product itself. We're in a unique position with him since he's a friend of the guy behind Syntronik (he mentions lending the Yamaha synth to Erik in one of the videos) and I suppose I should say lucky too since he does seem to go above and beyond a simple endorsement. However, like I said I do appreciate the comments and such on that front.

Also glad to see people are enjoying Syntronik and hope that many will at least try the free version as there are some very usable sounds in there beyond just demoing the product and you can continue to use those for as long as you'd like.


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#2869641 - 07/28/17 10:03 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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And now back to the non-serious theme:

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
I'd start by asking you, Mr. Golly. poke




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#2869674 - 07/28/17 12:55 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Does Chris Martirano get shit for the plethora of demo gigs he takes with all the keyboard developers and dealers? Surely he dwarfs Rudess in this regard.


for clarification only, Chris is employed by an independent distributor and does demo's of the keyboards that this particular distributor represents in the USA
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#2869681 - 07/28/17 01:31 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: davedoerfler]
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That's cool, so he demos whatever AMS asks him to show off. Great gig for a wonderful player who's been in the industry for a very long time. I was just using Chris as an example of a guy who does a LOT of demos - obviously because it's his job.

We were just talking a few weeks ago about what it might be like to do that gig for Sweetwater. A lot of forumites debated the pluses and negatives about taking such a gig, and we were generally congratulatory of Erskin Hawkins being picked.
http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2844153/3

I get it, Jordan networks a lot with developers and does a lot of demos and accepts endorsements - arguably too many. But he's a musician, loves what he's doing, and his success has brought him opportunities so he takes them. So in this regard I guess he's become too visible, like a track getting too much radio play. Personally, I wouldn't give him shit for it - most artists get a very limited time in the limelight if ever. So take it while it's lasts. Tomorrow you're old news and it might never come around again. Very few will ever pull off a career like Tony Bennett or The Stones. YMMV, no sweat. cheers
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#2869700 - 07/28/17 03:32 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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As for Jordan Rudess, I can understand why it's easy to poke fun at his enthusiasm for gear. After all—like BT—he associates himself with a lot of keyboards and software. That said, I don't get the impression that either of them are ever pimping a product they don't care for. Personally, I share their enthusiasm for most of the gear they like.

As for me, I spent my free time this week downloading and installing Syntronik's massive 50 GB of content. I have yet to play it other than to quickly trigger a few notes with my track pad to make sure it installed properly. The download took about 24 hours on my system, and the product comes in the form of 24 separate installers—one for Syntronik and 23 for its content, each of which must be downloaded and installed separately—so it takes awhile to get things up and running. Last but not least, it took some digging to find out where the content was supposed to be installed. It turns out that it has to be in your Sample Tank 3 folder. Once I got that sorted out, installation went smoothly—albeit slowly.

I'm very much looking forward to more free time to explore Syntronik's sounds. Next, comes the fun part!

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#2869705 - 07/28/17 04:18 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Waiting on pins and needles for your review, Geoff! wink
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#2869716 - 07/28/17 08:01 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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As a Sampletank 3 owner I eagerly await some comparisons of Syntronik with other competing products, some of which I may already own, and also comments on how fast it loads and the hardware specs of the tested machine, for live use.

ST3 would one of more expensive VI's I own but do not use on a Mac, due to the slow load times I experienced in MainStage.

Plus I am currently exeriencing Gigabyte overload, there must now be in excess of 120GB taken up between the full ST3, the other ST2.5 legacy stuff and Syntronik.

As ST3's 70GB of samples sits unused, there are better sounding and faster loading versions of much of this in Logic's free VI's, and I have to keep a backup copy of the download because IK charge for future downloads, Syntronik would need to be best in show both in load times and sound to warrant the investment in terms of dollars and GB's.
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#2869721 - 07/28/17 08:51 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Markay]
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So far my free version, which as stated above, is all the instruments, but not all the presets, loads very quickly. Stand alone or inside Mainstage.

With two instances of it loaded, for testing in Mainstage.

A heavy Jupiter 8 pad and a fat Mini square lead with portamento/glide, the peak CPU I have seen for far when sustaining both at the same time is 42%

Remember, this is on my baby system.. Late 2013 MBP Retina 256SSD 4GB 2.4GHZ

One thing neat I discovered, and it's touched a bit in the demos we've seen:

Besides the normal "factory" parameters on each instrument, you can assign any filter from any instrument to each other for some cool effects.

Also, when you assign the basic controls such as ADSR for Amp and Filter envelopes to your hardware, it works those same parameters on all the instruments.

That way you don't have to assign the basic/standard controls on all 17.

Makes it very easy when auditioning the different instruments.

I am currently testing with Arturia Keylab 61

So far Syntronik has not glitched on my system when loaded in Mainstage along with Kontakt and Arturia instruments loaded.

Subjective: I have been comparing like instruments; Arturia Jup8V, and the Syntronik Jupiter 8.

With same settings to get same patch sounds, the Syntronik sounds more organic and "Real".
YMMV


Edited by EscapeRocks (07/28/17 08:53 PM)
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#2869731 - 07/28/17 11:20 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Thanks David, I didn't have an issue with ST3's resource use when loaded, even when using layers and effects within ST3.

First time loading is the issue, it seemed like when you switched to a patch which included ST3, there was a lag while ST3 loaded and configured itself, and then a further lag while it searched for and loaded the samples associated with the saved preset. This was on a machine with an SSD.

Delays that do not occur using, for example, UVI Workstation and the associated VI and UFS file.
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#2869736 - 07/29/17 12:06 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Markay]
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It took so long to download and install, that I ran out of time to try it out. Hopefully it has enough synth-like control to not sound like static snapshots -- especially as it covers some rare models that rarely get attention. The interface is excellent, and the couple of patches I loaded for library verification were quite fast -- especially considering their size.
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#2869751 - 07/29/17 06:19 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Does it have the standard IK sound? A bit static and lifeless? That sound quality is why I never got much use out of the SampleTank series.
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#2869791 - 07/29/17 02:37 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: RABid]
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I may get a chance to try it later today, but other things take priority at the moment. I used their SampleTron now and then, but usually used G-Force's M-Tron Pro.

I found SampleTron evolved a bit if you paid attention to phrasing, so I suspect there is even more synth-like character in SampleTank 3 and whatever they did in the update to accommodate Syntronik.

UVI Falcon is another example of a "sampler" that has almost as many synth-like properties as those found in a good hardware DAW like a Yamaha MONTAGE.
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#2871515 - 08/07/17 05:19 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I finally got to play around with Syntronik today, and I'm definitely glad I bought it—especially with my Jam Points discount.

It has more programability than one would expect from a sample-based synth library. There are synth-specific controls you can edit as well as a rack of effects included with each patch. The load times from my SSD were always a second or less, usually less.

As for the sound, I'd rank it among the best. I still give Diva the edge for analog sound, but Syntronik has more breadth than Diva. The closest product I can think of is UVI Synth Anthology 2, both in terms of scope and quality, and they're both sample-based synth libraries. The biggest difference between the two is that Synth Anthology 2's interface is the same from synth to synth, whereas Syntronik's interface varies, based of each specific synth IK Multimedia sampled.

Syntronik has a lot of instantly usable and easy to edit patches. If you like to program your sounds from scratch, there are better options; but if you'd like a wide variety of strong, tweakable synth sounds, this is definitely worth a look.

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#2872694 - 08/13/17 04:19 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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This is kind of funny, but I never got around to trying the sounds in Syntronik yesterday because I was having such an all-day love affair with my Minimoog Voyager, breathing new excitement, warmth, and organic variability into a bunch of tracks that previously had been done on the Korg MS-20.

Maybe today I'll get around to it... but just as I have resisted buying the DSI OB6 and other newer synths (even the SEM reissues), I think I am quickly finding that the Minimoog is just about all that I need, except when getting into digital territory. That third oscillator helps a lot!
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#2872720 - 08/13/17 07:57 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
This is kind of funny, but I never got around to trying the sounds in Syntronik yesterday because I was having such an all-day love affair with my Minimoog Voyager, breathing new excitement, warmth, and organic variability into a bunch of tracks that previously had been done on the Korg MS-20.

Maybe today I'll get around to it... but just as I have resisted buying the DSI OB6 and other newer synths (even the SEM reissues), I think I am quickly finding that the Minimoog is just about all that I need, except when getting into digital territory. That third oscillator helps a lot!

Yeah, it does.

My Mini is my baby. love

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#2872730 - 08/13/17 08:48 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
I never got around to trying the sounds in Syntronik yesterday because I was having such an all-day love affair with my Minimoog Voyager


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#2873202 - 08/15/17 01:36 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: davedoerfler]
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This review provides a good overview:



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#2873227 - 08/15/17 03:59 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I broke over and ordered it. It has been a long, long time since I bought a VSTi so I was due. Had Jam points that needed to be used. (That is what I am telling myself. ) Got the USB memory stock version.
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#2875547 - 08/27/17 10:14 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: RABid]
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Our friend Craig Anderton has reviewed Syntronik:

Expert Review: IK Multimedia Syntronik Virtual Instrument

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#2875549 - 08/27/17 11:01 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I haven't pulled the trigger on this synth yet. I already own omnishpere 2, zebra, obx, massive, absynth, fm8 etc. Is there alot in this package that doesn't exist within the above options?

I am thinking syntronik might have a good yamaha sy99 synth called 99? Maybe this is a reason to get it. Has anybody tried the 99 and does it produce some good FM style sounds?
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#2875551 - 08/27/17 11:30 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: CaptainUnderpant]
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Just think of all that Andromeda goodness.

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#2880488 - 09/20/17 03:15 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Fleer]
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Syntronik is now available on iPad. More here:

Legendary Synth Powerhouse for iPad

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#2880489 - 09/20/17 03:17 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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That's interesting... Are they suggesting how close to the desktop version they've gotten? Same number of samples?
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#2880491 - 09/20/17 03:19 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I just got it a few days ago. Haven't played it as much as I'd like to yet...but what I've heard has been excellent.

The audio processing section is quite cool as well.



I'll see if brother Erik has some time to pop by the forum to visit. He's actually one of the original members.

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#2880510 - 09/20/17 04:27 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Hi all - It's been a while since I have posted here. Like ... perhaps decades. Hope everyone is doing well! Brother Dave suggested I stop by and say hello.

I hope everyone is enjoying Syntronik. It was a pretty huge project (starting with about 20 years worth of sampling ...), and I'm really proud of the result. It was just released yesterday on the iPad as well (neat!). My favorite Synth of the bunch is of course the Galaxy (based on the Andromeda), and I even roped in our old Andromeda pal, Taiho Yamada, to do some nice voicing for that one. Taiho just posted some demos of his sounds if you're interested:

https://soundcloud.com/taiho-yamada/ik-multimedia-syntronik-taiho-yamada-demo

Jordan did some great demos, too, which it looks like you guys have seen.

There's also a really nice interview with yours truly about the product that you may find interesting (and hey, if nothing else, cool photos):

http://cdm.link/2017/07/syntronik-is-the-new-monster-softsynth-from-ik-hear-from-its-creator/

Cheers everybody,
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#2880514 - 09/20/17 04:42 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Erik Norlander]
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Erik!!

Nice work. I have incorporated Syntronik into y stage rig, wrapped in Mainstage. Works great.
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#2880523 - 09/20/17 05:39 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Very cool. Say I've been playing with the iPad version. One thing that struck me is the filter emulation on the V-80 (set to CLASSIC). If you put resonance all the way up and then filter sweep, it will pretty much take your ears off (don't do it with headphones like I did). Seems pretty drastic to me. No? Maybe it's just the particular preset that's messed up. It's hard to tell which the switches are depressed, again on the V-80. The preset is Saw-Sine Scoop V-80. Otherwise, it's really cool.

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#2880550 - 09/21/17 12:24 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: burningbusch]
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Hey Erik, welcome back. Great job on Syntronik! Thanks for the links. cool

I hope you'll stick around for awhile and join the discussions. It's still a great forum.

Here's the thread I created about Syntronik back in May. I posted a lot of videos there:

IK Multimedia Announces Syntronik

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#2880571 - 09/21/17 05:18 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I skipped the computer version, but will definitely jump on the iPad version!
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#2880598 - 09/21/17 07:09 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Bill W]
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On iPad it doesn't run as an Audio Unit, and apparently you cannot set the MIDI input channel(s).
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#2880626 - 09/21/17 08:31 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Hi David, Busch, Geoff - nice to see you guys. I'm really glad you're enjoying the instrument. Geoff, thanks for the previous thread -- cool.

I've been sampling for most of my adult life, but the real catalyst for this sample collection was when I was touring a LOT in 2007-2008, and I lamented how beat up my Andromeda was getting on each fly date. I do "know some people" wink who kept fixing it, but man, I knew that after a while it was just going to cross the proverbial Rubicon and just not be fixable anymore. So I started sampling very specific Andromeda sounds and put them in the Motif ES and Blofeld module. The Motif ES was always available from backline companies, so I could just bring a flash drive with the samples, and the Blofeld of course fits in a backpack. With this approach, I really started to figure out and learn what aspect of the analog synth should be sampled and what should not. That became a sort of ethos for my sampling and editing. I went back to older sample sessions and re-approached those the same way, and of course I kept on sampling new instruments in this way.

Then the opportunity with IK came along, and here we are. The guys did a great job of modeling my hardware synth filters with so many measurements and re-measurements and analyses and re-analyses it would make your head spin. We also came up with this Ensemble effect that I absolutely love. It's provides the quirky chorus-phaser of the ARP String Ensemble along with the classic Roland-style ensemble chorus that's in the Juno-60, RS-505, etc. We added a pre-emphasis control which works great with the inherent low pass filtering of the bucket brigade circuit, and then a subtle overdrive control that gives you the bucket brigade saturation sound. Plus the whole mono-to-stereo phase trick thing that is of course part of the Roland chorus, but it also available with the ARP String Ensemble chorus sound in this effect. Love that.

Anyway, I seem to be just blathering on now. Happy you guys are enjoying it as much as I am. smile

Cheers,
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#2880631 - 09/21/17 08:47 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Very cool. Say I've been playing with the iPad version. One thing that struck me is the filter emulation on the V-80 (set to CLASSIC). If you put resonance all the way up and then filter sweep, it will pretty much take your ears off (don't do it with headphones like I did). Seems pretty drastic to me. No? Maybe it's just the particular preset that's messed up. It's hard to tell which the switches are depressed, again on the V-80. The preset is Saw-Sine Scoop V-80. Otherwise, it's really cool.


Hi Busch - The "Classic" filter in Syntronik is the legacy SampleTank filter. As far the painful trauma that happens when you turn the resonance all the way up, my advice is ... don't turn the resonance all the way up [ducking now... wink ]. But honestly, even on a real CS-80, I don't think I would turn up the resonance ALL the way. The "Classic" filter doesn't have the analog-style resonance scaling that the analog-modeled filters have, so it gets pretty insane at the extreme settings and also when it goes down into the very low frequencies. And the R-Type filter sounds quite good, too, on the CS-80 samples sets like that one -- please give that a try. smile

Keep in mind that overall, Syntronik is not intended to be your ultimate-sound-design-infinite-possibilities synth. It is intended to be a convenient and great-sounding collection of the most famous and musically useful synth and string machines sounds with only the most commonly-used editing controls. Like ALL synths, I think it's good to be in tune with what the instrument is and what it is not. The Minimoog makes a terrible piano sound. smile

Cheers,
Erik


Edited by Erik Norlander (09/21/17 08:47 AM)

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#2880636 - 09/21/17 09:06 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: GovernorSilver]
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Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver
On iPad it doesn't run as an Audio Unit, and apparently you cannot set the MIDI input channel(s).


Interesting. Peter from IK also said (on KVR) that the sample set is smaller for the iPad, so there are obviously compromises.
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#2880648 - 09/21/17 09:57 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Bill W]
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Originally Posted By: Bill W
Originally Posted By: GovernorSilver
On iPad it doesn't run as an Audio Unit, and apparently you cannot set the MIDI input channel(s).


Interesting. Peter from IK also said (on KVR) that the sample set is smaller for the iPad, so there are obviously compromises.


Hi Bill and Gov - Right, there is no AU support yet in the iPad version. I know the guys are working on that. The sample set on the iPad is about 8% of the size of the desktop version, solely because you probably don't want a VI making a 55 GB footprint on your mobile device. smile I think the economization went quite well, and while of course some sounds had to be fully omitted, all of the sets that were made smaller definitely keep their vibe and mojo. That was essential. Remember that the old Alesis QS8 synth had a 16MB sample set for *everything* shocked so I do know a couple of things about optimizing samples for smaller memory sizes. I believe most of the single instrument presets in Syntronik are bigger than 16MB! How far we've come.

The only other thing that is different in the iPad version is the reverb effect. In the desktop version, you have the Hall and Plate effects; in the iPad version, you have one "Digital Reverb" effect that replaces those two. I personally converted all of the desktop instruments by ear for the iPad version, one by one comparing to the desktop reverbs while setting the new parameters for the iPad reverb. No lookup tables or auto-conversions were used, it was all hand-done. Tedious? Ummm, yes. But clearly necessary.

Cheers,
Erik

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#2880653 - 09/21/17 10:08 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Erik Norlander]
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Thanks Erik, I'll play with it. I'll definitely purchase this.

Busch.

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#2880656 - 09/21/17 10:20 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: burningbusch]
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Thanks for the insight on the sample size differences, Erik.

Oddly enough, I didn't get the Mac version because my MBP doesn't have enough space on it. My iPad, on the other hand, has about 180GB open. smile
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#2880672 - 09/21/17 11:55 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Bill W]
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Available storage definitely an issue on iOS devices we keep for multi use. Of course we'd love to fill it with gigs of samples, our charts, synth apps, drum machines, all sorts of other great music making apps... but then it's not useful for much else. At least the installers are always up on the app store. You can delete and make space for what you need when.

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#2880807 - 09/21/17 09:08 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Erik Norlander]
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#2880907 - 09/22/17 08:47 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Bill W]
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Originally Posted By: Bill W
Thanks for the insight on the sample size differences, Erik.

Oddly enough, I didn't get the Mac version because my MBP doesn't have enough space on it. My iPad, on the other hand, has about 180GB open. smile


Hi Bill - Note that you can get complete single Synths if you prefer. Like (hint, hint) just the Galaxy for the Andromeda sounds. That weighs in at only about 8 GB on the desktop version vs. 55 GB for the whole kit and caboodle. Galaxy is the largest Synth in the product, and some of the others are only around 1 GB. I think the String Box is about that size, for example.

I am sure there are users that would be happy to fill up their iPad with all 55 GB of the Syntronik desktop version (me, for example wink ) but I don't know if we could justify enough sales to release a version like that. Let's see! If there is enough public outcry, maybe we can do it.

Cheers,
Erik

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#2890252 - 11/14/17 11:41 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Erik Norlander]
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Syntronik 1.1 was released today.

Changes from version 1.0:
• Quick Edit on Multi page: now features dedicated level and pan sliders as well as effects and arpeggiator bypass for all parts at once
• New effect drag & drop repositioning, chain presets, lock and global bypass shortcut features
• The length of arpeggiator pattern is now controllable via MIDI
• Vibrato can now be assigned to either the Modwheel or the Aftertouch
• MIDI assignable aftertouch for enhanced performance expression
• Faster database rebuilding process for streamlined library management
• General reliability improvements

Best,

Geoff
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