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#2869315 - 07/26/17 12:51 PM Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool!
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IK now offer a free version.

It comes with a few presets for all 17 instruments. Not a whole lot, but it's a good place to try it out as long as you desire.

It's own instrument browser is cool, letting you stack 4 instruments with different layers, etc..

I have been testing it inside Mainstage.

On the instruments themselves, almost every single button and knob is assignable to hardware. In my testing I have been using my Arturia Keylab 61.

So far, the sounds are fantastic. The "DRIFT" technology appears to work.
Playing around with the OBX-a and Mini for now, they get that unclean sound, as I call it, that I remember from way back in the day.

They sound more real to me than my Arturia versions that I have compared so far Jupiter 8 and Mini Moog.

They are fat!

The nice thing, if you don't care to have ALL the patches for all 17, you can purchase individual instrument packs.

Anyway, just thought I'd pass it along that you can play with it for free before dropping $$$
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#2869343 - 07/26/17 05:38 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Agreed. I think they did a decent job.

For folks who want the flavor of classic sounds but don't want to get into synthesis beyond a couple of envelopes and a filter (plus a boatload of effects), it's worth a look.

The Andromeda patches are yuuuge.

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#2869344 - 07/26/17 05:46 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: johnchop]
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I agree it does look like it's more than the sum of its parts. In fact, the sampling work with their Sample Tank engine, custum GUI for the instruments, and the pitch drift add up to a pretty nice sounding collection. I think maybe Geoff Grace got in on the early pricing. I wonder if he's had time to play with it.

Here is the most recent run through from Jordan.



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#2869473 - 07/27/17 10:05 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
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#2869587 - 07/28/17 05:10 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
I'd start by asking you, Mr. Golly. poke

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#2869596 - 07/28/17 06:10 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
I'd start by asking you, Mr. Golly. poke


It's a pretty good run through of the software, regardless of Rudess taking the gig or not. Seems like a nice enough guy. Successful musician, husband and father, lover of synths if you've ever seen his home studios (studioS, I believe he has an A and B studio at home). Into iOS for music making as well. A perennial at NAMM. The guy is one of us for sure. And I'm not even a fan of the style of music he focuses on, but it's not hard to give someone credit where credit is due. I think there are a lot of guys here that would take endorsement deals and demo gigs if the phone were ringing. Does Chris Martirano get shit for the plethora of demo gigs he takes with all the keyboard developers and dealers? Surely he dwarfs Rudess in this regard. Maybe it's that we're under the impression Rudess doesn't need these gigs because he makes enough money from Dream Theater? I dunno. But yeah, I get it... another Rudess demo. wink
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#2869638 - 07/28/17 09:39 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Thanks for the posts and thoughts about Syntronik. With regard to Jordan, I appreciate the comments and agree with ElmerJFudd that Jordan is indeed giving a good demonstration of the product itself. We're in a unique position with him since he's a friend of the guy behind Syntronik (he mentions lending the Yamaha synth to Erik in one of the videos) and I suppose I should say lucky too since he does seem to go above and beyond a simple endorsement. However, like I said I do appreciate the comments and such on that front.

Also glad to see people are enjoying Syntronik and hope that many will at least try the free version as there are some very usable sounds in there beyond just demoing the product and you can continue to use those for as long as you'd like.


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#2869641 - 07/28/17 10:03 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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And now back to the non-serious theme:

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
What would we do if Jordan Rudess wasn't around to tell us how "amazing" everything is? twothumbs cool
I'd start by asking you, Mr. Golly. poke




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#2869674 - 07/28/17 12:55 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Does Chris Martirano get shit for the plethora of demo gigs he takes with all the keyboard developers and dealers? Surely he dwarfs Rudess in this regard.


for clarification only, Chris is employed by an independent distributor and does demo's of the keyboards that this particular distributor represents in the USA
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#2869681 - 07/28/17 01:31 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: davedoerfler]
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That's cool, so he demos whatever AMS asks him to show off. Great gig for a wonderful player who's been in the industry for a very long time. I was just using Chris as an example of a guy who does a LOT of demos - obviously because it's his job.

We were just talking a few weeks ago about what it might be like to do that gig for Sweetwater. A lot of forumites debated the pluses and negatives about taking such a gig, and we were generally congratulatory of Erskin Hawkins being picked.
http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2844153/3

I get it, Jordan networks a lot with developers and does a lot of demos and accepts endorsements - arguably too many. But he's a musician, loves what he's doing, and his success has brought him opportunities so he takes them. So in this regard I guess he's become too visible, like a track getting too much radio play. Personally, I wouldn't give him shit for it - most artists get a very limited time in the limelight if ever. So take it while it's lasts. Tomorrow you're old news and it might never come around again. Very few will ever pull off a career like Tony Bennett or The Stones. YMMV, no sweat. cheers
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#2869700 - 07/28/17 03:32 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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As for Jordan Rudess, I can understand why it's easy to poke fun at his enthusiasm for gear. After all—like BT—he associates himself with a lot of keyboards and software. That said, I don't get the impression that either of them are ever pimping a product they don't care for. Personally, I share their enthusiasm for most of the gear they like.

As for me, I spent my free time this week downloading and installing Syntronik's massive 50 GB of content. I have yet to play it other than to quickly trigger a few notes with my track pad to make sure it installed properly. The download took about 24 hours on my system, and the product comes in the form of 24 separate installers—one for Syntronik and 23 for its content, each of which must be downloaded and installed separately—so it takes awhile to get things up and running. Last but not least, it took some digging to find out where the content was supposed to be installed. It turns out that it has to be in your Sample Tank 3 folder. Once I got that sorted out, installation went smoothly—albeit slowly.

I'm very much looking forward to more free time to explore Syntronik's sounds. Next, comes the fun part!

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#2869705 - 07/28/17 04:18 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Waiting on pins and needles for your review, Geoff! wink
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#2869716 - 07/28/17 08:01 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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As a Sampletank 3 owner I eagerly await some comparisons of Syntronik with other competing products, some of which I may already own, and also comments on how fast it loads and the hardware specs of the tested machine, for live use.

ST3 would one of more expensive VI's I own but do not use on a Mac, due to the slow load times I experienced in MainStage.

Plus I am currently exeriencing Gigabyte overload, there must now be in excess of 120GB taken up between the full ST3, the other ST2.5 legacy stuff and Syntronik.

As ST3's 70GB of samples sits unused, there are better sounding and faster loading versions of much of this in Logic's free VI's, and I have to keep a backup copy of the download because IK charge for future downloads, Syntronik would need to be best in show both in load times and sound to warrant the investment in terms of dollars and GB's.
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#2869721 - 07/28/17 08:51 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Markay]
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So far my free version, which as stated above, is all the instruments, but not all the presets, loads very quickly. Stand alone or inside Mainstage.

With two instances of it loaded, for testing in Mainstage.

A heavy Jupiter 8 pad and a fat Mini square lead with portamento/glide, the peak CPU I have seen for far when sustaining both at the same time is 42%

Remember, this is on my baby system.. Late 2013 MBP Retina 256SSD 4GB 2.4GHZ

One thing neat I discovered, and it's touched a bit in the demos we've seen:

Besides the normal "factory" parameters on each instrument, you can assign any filter from any instrument to each other for some cool effects.

Also, when you assign the basic controls such as ADSR for Amp and Filter envelopes to your hardware, it works those same parameters on all the instruments.

That way you don't have to assign the basic/standard controls on all 17.

Makes it very easy when auditioning the different instruments.

I am currently testing with Arturia Keylab 61

So far Syntronik has not glitched on my system when loaded in Mainstage along with Kontakt and Arturia instruments loaded.

Subjective: I have been comparing like instruments; Arturia Jup8V, and the Syntronik Jupiter 8.

With same settings to get same patch sounds, the Syntronik sounds more organic and "Real".
YMMV


Edited by EscapeRocks (07/28/17 08:53 PM)
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#2869731 - 07/28/17 11:20 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Thanks David, I didn't have an issue with ST3's resource use when loaded, even when using layers and effects within ST3.

First time loading is the issue, it seemed like when you switched to a patch which included ST3, there was a lag while ST3 loaded and configured itself, and then a further lag while it searched for and loaded the samples associated with the saved preset. This was on a machine with an SSD.

Delays that do not occur using, for example, UVI Workstation and the associated VI and UFS file.
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#2869736 - 07/29/17 12:06 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Markay]
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It took so long to download and install, that I ran out of time to try it out. Hopefully it has enough synth-like control to not sound like static snapshots -- especially as it covers some rare models that rarely get attention. The interface is excellent, and the couple of patches I loaded for library verification were quite fast -- especially considering their size.
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#2869751 - 07/29/17 06:19 AM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Does it have the standard IK sound? A bit static and lifeless? That sound quality is why I never got much use out of the SampleTank series.
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#2869791 - 07/29/17 02:37 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: RABid]
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I may get a chance to try it later today, but other things take priority at the moment. I used their SampleTron now and then, but usually used G-Force's M-Tron Pro.

I found SampleTron evolved a bit if you paid attention to phrasing, so I suspect there is even more synth-like character in SampleTank 3 and whatever they did in the update to accommodate Syntronik.

UVI Falcon is another example of a "sampler" that has almost as many synth-like properties as those found in a good hardware DAW like a Yamaha MONTAGE.
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#2871515 - 08/07/17 05:19 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I finally got to play around with Syntronik today, and I'm definitely glad I bought it—especially with my Jam Points discount.

It has more programability than one would expect from a sample-based synth library. There are synth-specific controls you can edit as well as a rack of effects included with each patch. The load times from my SSD were always a second or less, usually less.

As for the sound, I'd rank it among the best. I still give Diva the edge for analog sound, but Syntronik has more breadth than Diva. The closest product I can think of is UVI Synth Anthology 2, both in terms of scope and quality, and they're both sample-based synth libraries. The biggest difference between the two is that Synth Anthology 2's interface is the same from synth to synth, whereas Syntronik's interface varies, based of each specific synth IK Multimedia sampled.

Syntronik has a lot of instantly usable and easy to edit patches. If you like to program your sounds from scratch, there are better options; but if you'd like a wide variety of strong, tweakable synth sounds, this is definitely worth a look.

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#2872694 - 08/13/17 04:19 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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This is kind of funny, but I never got around to trying the sounds in Syntronik yesterday because I was having such an all-day love affair with my Minimoog Voyager, breathing new excitement, warmth, and organic variability into a bunch of tracks that previously had been done on the Korg MS-20.

Maybe today I'll get around to it... but just as I have resisted buying the DSI OB6 and other newer synths (even the SEM reissues), I think I am quickly finding that the Minimoog is just about all that I need, except when getting into digital territory. That third oscillator helps a lot!
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#2872720 - 08/13/17 07:57 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
This is kind of funny, but I never got around to trying the sounds in Syntronik yesterday because I was having such an all-day love affair with my Minimoog Voyager, breathing new excitement, warmth, and organic variability into a bunch of tracks that previously had been done on the Korg MS-20.

Maybe today I'll get around to it... but just as I have resisted buying the DSI OB6 and other newer synths (even the SEM reissues), I think I am quickly finding that the Minimoog is just about all that I need, except when getting into digital territory. That third oscillator helps a lot!

Yeah, it does.

My Mini is my baby. love

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#2872730 - 08/13/17 08:48 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
I never got around to trying the sounds in Syntronik yesterday because I was having such an all-day love affair with my Minimoog Voyager


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#2873202 - 08/15/17 01:36 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: davedoerfler]
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This review provides a good overview:



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#2873227 - 08/15/17 03:59 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I broke over and ordered it. It has been a long, long time since I bought a VSTi so I was due. Had Jam points that needed to be used. (That is what I am telling myself. ) Got the USB memory stock version.
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#2875547 - 08/27/17 10:14 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: RABid]
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Our friend Craig Anderton has reviewed Syntronik:

Expert Review: IK Multimedia Syntronik Virtual Instrument

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#2875549 - 08/27/17 11:01 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I haven't pulled the trigger on this synth yet. I already own omnishpere 2, zebra, obx, massive, absynth, fm8 etc. Is there alot in this package that doesn't exist within the above options?

I am thinking syntronik might have a good yamaha sy99 synth called 99? Maybe this is a reason to get it. Has anybody tried the 99 and does it produce some good FM style sounds?
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#2875551 - 08/27/17 11:30 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: CaptainUnderpant]
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Just think of all that Andromeda goodness.

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#2880488 - 09/20/17 03:15 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Fleer]
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Syntronik is now available on iPad. More here:

Legendary Synth Powerhouse for iPad

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#2880489 - 09/20/17 03:17 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: Geoff Grace]
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That's interesting... Are they suggesting how close to the desktop version they've gotten? Same number of samples?
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#2880491 - 09/20/17 03:19 PM Re: Syntronik from IK Multimedia, It's cool! [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I just got it a few days ago. Haven't played it as much as I'd like to yet...but what I've heard has been excellent.

The audio processing section is quite cool as well.



I'll see if brother Erik has some time to pop by the forum to visit. He's actually one of the original members.

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