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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: llatham] #2868742 07/23/17 02:26 PM
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When we arrived at the stage area for what should have been our time slot, Aerosmith was set up instead.

They didn't even make the poster!


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: J. Dead] #2868743 07/23/17 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
The doctor felt like my progress from practicing the keyboards was better than I would have gotten from PT.




Dan your signature implies you play a lot of stringed instruments too or is that all on keys? If you do play violin, or mandolin, guitar, etc. how was the recuperation there?

Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: llatham] #2868747 07/23/17 03:15 PM
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In that band I also played sax and guitar, which I was unable to play at all until recovered. So we just did without rhythm guitar and cut any parts with sax. Recovering on sax wasn't bad because you don't need a lot of strength. Guitar was difficult - more so than keyboards. With keyboards the difficulty was getting my range of motion back. It was a long time before I could even put my palm flat on a table much less stretch an octave or more without pain. With guitar the difficulty was simply strength. Honestly, the thing that took the longest to be able to do without pain was opening a jar of pickles.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: mate stubb] #2868757 07/23/17 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: mate stubb
When we arrived at the stage area for what should have been our time slot, Aerosmith was set up instead.


Coincidentally, they were the Extremely Famous Rock Band I was opening for in my story. wink

Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: J. Dead] #2868851 07/23/17 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
In that band I also played sax and guitar, which I was unable to play at all until recovered. So we just did without rhythm guitar and cut any parts with sax. Recovering on sax wasn't bad because you don't need a lot of strength. Guitar was difficult - more so than keyboards. With keyboards the difficulty was getting my range of motion back. It was a long time before I could even put my palm flat on a table much less stretch an octave or more without pain. With guitar the difficulty was simply strength. Honestly, the thing that took the longest to be able to do without pain was opening a jar of pickles.


Well I'm glad to hear you've recovered. Scary stuff. Someone in another forum just lost part of a thumb.

I sometimes have to use some help with a jar of pickles anyway!

Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: llatham] #2868854 07/23/17 11:51 PM
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Interesting side note: For most people, given a similar injury, they would not have gotten the hand specialist and surgery, and would have had lasting effects.

Even though my day job, which supplied my insurance, had nothing to do with music, my primary care physician approved the hand specialist recommendation since he acknowleged that a significant portion of my income came from music. So my work supplied insurance paid for the hand specialist, the surgery, and would have paid for PT had I done it, because my physician made the decision that it was necessary. That may apply to some of you in similar situations, which is why I shared.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: llatham] #2868873 07/24/17 03:53 AM
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Not exactly the bands fault but we drove 2 hours to a wedding only to find that there was no wedding. Bride and groom had provisionally booked us and cancelled their wedding without telling us.

Drummer should have caught on (he dealt with the clients) but he didn't. Was a wasted night. Had to borrow fuel money from the guitarist to get home.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: N4dr0j] #2868946 07/24/17 01:52 PM
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I have gigged since 1981 and the only gig failures were due to the bar closing because a fight broke out. Can't think of a single booking snafu or equipment failure that stopped the show.

Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: Stokely] #2869006 07/24/17 06:33 PM
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The only time I can remember not playing when we were scheduled to was when our bassist hauling most of our gear never showed up after we had gone to the wrong venue and high-tailed it to correct one. Contract errors happened back in those days sometimes with the wrong compensation (which pissed off the bar owner as it was more than he'd agreed), etc.

Other than that there was a gig where there was a gunfight just a block away from the bar we played at. It stopped us momentarily but we went back to playing. Fun times.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: Bosendorphen] #2869010 07/24/17 06:49 PM
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When I was a kid the band I was in drove several hours to an out of town gig, only to find another band set up. The bar used 2 booking agents and wires were crossed....can't really remember any other time in 40+ years of gigging, which is why that one incident stands out I guess.....

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I've never been in a band which has cancelled, but on one occasion a wedding turned into a major brawl during our break, so set 2 never happened. More recently, we played a gig with three fights in a single night, so we gave up snd left while our stuff was still undamaged.


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Did you play both kinds of music?


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: WesG] #2869024 07/24/17 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: WesG
Did you play both kinds of music?

LOL! You mean country AND western Wes? Nope. Neither of them. grin


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: xKnuckles] #2869031 07/24/17 09:27 PM
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Yep! grin Your message reminded of that scene right out of Blues Brothers. smile


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: CaptainUnderpant] #2869033 07/24/17 09:54 PM
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The show barely went on. Our drummer was a little flaky.

One Saturday night, in the early 1980s, our Beatles clone band (The Mystery Tour) was booked to play the Missing Link in Massapequa, NY.

Sure enough, we get to the club and the drummer is nowhere to be found. Turns out he's in jail. We phoned our agency (Rick Morgan Agency) and they sent another drummer who knew Beatles songs. He showed up just in time.

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I can only think of one gig where we showed up and didn't play.

I think this would have been about 2007 or 2008 - the covers/originals band I played with in college. We get to the venue and the power is out - knocked out by a big thunderstorm earlier in the day. We waited for about an hour and nothing changed, so we asked the bar owner for $50 gas money (which he paid) and went home.

The irony of this situation is that the bar was right across the river from a power plant.

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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
Interesting side note: For most people, given a similar injury, they would not have gotten the hand specialist and surgery, and would have had lasting effects.

Even though my day job, which supplied my insurance, had nothing to do with music, my primary care physician approved the hand specialist recommendation since he acknowleged that a significant portion of my income came from music. So my work supplied insurance paid for the hand specialist, the surgery, and would have paid for PT had I done it, because my physician made the decision that it was necessary. That may apply to some of you in similar situations, which is why I shared.

Interesting. Your doc would have declared your treatment medically unnecessary if you weren't a musician (or equivalently dependent on the use of your hand/fingers).

I've always assumed the doc would refer you to whatever specialist is required to restore normal function, but it's good to know they're allowed pull treatment to save the insurance.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: CaptainUnderpant] #2869124 07/25/17 03:36 PM
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the Orange County Fair...


I think Fairground gigs are just cursed by definition. My bands biggest fail was at the Pomona County Fair. Lots of bands, lots of gear, moving on and off the same stage all day -- one scheduling snafu and you've got a terrific logjam.

That happened to us. We showed up for our slot, only to find the previous band's gear still on stage, but no one was around. We all knew it was professionally bad to mess with another band's gear, but we had to setup to make our contracted start time. So we very carefully moved their stuff off, setup, and started playing. Eventually, of course, the previous band showed up, and was incensed that we had touched their gear. So right in the middle of our tune, they walked over and yanked out the stage's electricity. About 3K people dancing and milling around, and suddenly, nada. It was a bad scene.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: area51recording] #2869165 07/25/17 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: area51recording
When I was a kid the band I was in drove several hours to an out of town gig, only to find another band set up. The bar used 2 booking agents and wires were crossed....can't really remember any other time in 40+ years of gigging, which is why that one incident stands out I guess.....

Had the same exact thing happen back in the early 70s. All we could do was drive back home and bitch at our agent.

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I always had signed contract in hand. Even if the other band had one, they usually didn't bring it with them. Helps to show up early so you're the first ones setting up as well. It happened a couple times where they sent the other band packing.


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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
I always had signed contract in hand. Even if the other band had one, they usually didn't bring it with them. Helps to show up early so you're the first ones setting up as well. It happened a couple times where they sent the other band packing.


We had one last year where it was just a verbal agreement. Not my band, just a sideman. Show up and there's another band loading in. Leave stuff in car until matter is settled. Owner confesses that he spaced out and double booked the night, doesn't offer a reasonable resolution. The bands agreed to make the two band leaders do a coin toss. We got the night off. Drank some beers on the owners tab and left. Fortunately the gig was less than a mile from my house. What's really funny is this band is always way under-rehearsed and we actually had two (count 'em!) rehearsals for this gig. There's a lesson lurking there somewhere.

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Was in a mostly original music (C&W, BluesRock, Southern, etc.) band in the mid '90's at a famous local pub where LOTS of touring acts play to this day. We were playing to a mostly groupies crowd on a weeknight and it was sort of an audition gig for no pay. We were doing great a couple of sets in, despite the "crowd".

Then the singer/songwriter played his song making fun of the gay community. The owner's wife came flying out of the back office toward the stage and was hollering loudly at him to shut it down, so we did. He plead with her to no end, but after a half hour we were loading up. He later said he was banned for life. We all had a good laugh after we got over the shock of the hollering wife.


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Re: When the Show Does Not go on - List your Band Failures [Re: area51recording] #2869221 07/26/17 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: area51recording
When I was a kid the band I was in drove several hours to an out of town gig, only to find another band set up. The bar used 2 booking agents and wires were crossed....can't really remember any other time in 40+ years of gigging, which is why that one incident stands out I guess.....


I've had the opposite. About 30 years ago the band I was in was booked for 2 gigs on the same night due to miscommunication.

That was a "fun" night. Fortunately, we weren't the only band at either venue so were able to do both gigs by getting cooperation from the other bands. Particularly, one of the other bands allowed us to use their equipment.

That and a bit of fast driving between venues.

As for the subject of this thread, I've only had a few close calls. Drink spilt on my electronic piano (before they were called "digital") and it started playing random notes at full velocity. I switched it off and finished the set and the next set on my synth. I stripped and cleaned the piano in the 2 breaks and got it running again.

Another time we did 2 nights in the same venue and when we arrived for the sound check on Saturday afternoon we discovered the mixer had several dead and crackling channels. On inspection I discovered the smell of rum. I guess someone had spilt a drink on it the night before.

Being an electronics engineer saved the day again, though. I stripped and cleaned the mixer and had the other band members drying the PCBs with hair driers. We were up and running in time for the gig.

Then there was the time the (small) stage collapsed and my keyboards ended up on the dance floor. But all we lost was about 30 minutes and apart from some small scratches my keyboards were fine.


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Being an electronics engineer saved the day again, though.


Had that happen plenty of times too. More than once I had the hood open on my Memorymoog during a break.

Once I had a brownout, and only the Hammond and Voyager tolerated it. Took some hunting down to uncover a rogue extension cord; it was an OTS cord (not mine) and was a shining example why I build my own audio and power cords.

I was usually the one called upon to fix the PA. In a rush to set up, they plugged the PA power amps into a power strip; every ten minutes the breaker would trip on the strip. It was an outdoor show so they were drawing more power than usual.

I got so tired of chasing down PA problems with bad mic cords and substandard PA gear from other folks that I bought my own system with rugged components and directed them to use my DIY cables - no more OTS cables.

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One night about 3 years ago our covers band showed up at a bar where we had performed twice before, and there was an engagement party already set up in the room where we had performed both times previously. The bar owner offered no explanation or apology or anything, nor did he say that he had forgot that he had booked us. In addition to bringing all our stuff, we had also invited friends to see us play, some of whom were already eating dinner at sit-down tables in this bar. Needless to see we never tried to book a gig at that place again.

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Actually I can only remember once, a long time ago. Playing a bar, bass player drinking a little too heavy, and about 2/3 into the set the bass player passes out cold, face planting on the stage with bass in hand.
The lead singer looks down at him, then looks at the audience and says "thank you and goodnight"

Believe it or not we still got paid.

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Halfway through the first set, smells like something is burning. We keep playing. Smoke starts to billow out from behind the bar. Panicked shouting begins.

An electrical fire. Everyone immediately out, leave your instruments and gear.

Fire department shows up in force. Axes, hoses, breathing gear. Please don't trash my gear, I'm thinking. Fire is quickly put out.

After an hour or so being on the street, and listening to lame "wow, you guys were too hot" comments, we get to re-enter the venue to survey the damage.

All my gear completely unhurt, although it still has a distinct campfire smell to this day.

We got paid.


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Originally Posted By: cphollis
Halfway through the first set, smells like something is burning. We keep playing. Smoke starts to billow out from behind the bar. Panicked shouting begins.

An electrical fire. Everyone immediately out, leave your instruments and gear.

Fire department shows up in force. Axes, hoses, breathing gear. Please don't trash my gear, I'm thinking. Fire is quickly put out.

After an hour or so being on the street, and listening to lame "wow, you guys were too hot" comments, we get to re-enter the venue to survey the damage.

All my gear completely unhurt, although it still has a distinct campfire smell to this day.

We got paid.


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The Heat is On - Glenn Frey
Hot, Hot, Hot - Dexter Poindexter
I'm Burnin for You - Blue Oyster Cult
Fire - Jimi Hendrix
Heat of the Moment - Asia
Rock of Ages (Pyromania) - Def Leppard
Highway to Hell - AC/DC
The Roof is On Fire - Rock Master Scott and The Dynamic Three
Beds are Burnin - Midnight Oil
We Didn't Start the Fire - Billy Joel
Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash
Light My Fire - The Doors
Burning Down the House - Talking Heads
Fight Fire with Fire - Kansas
Fire on High - ELO


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All my gear completely unhurt, although it still has a distinct campfire smell to this day.


Don't clean it... good precedence of your reputation for your "smoking chops"

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You forgot "Disco Inferno".

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