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#2866348 - 07/12/17 10:00 AM Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ?
GregC Offline
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I know, Sven. I should google the forum. But I am too lazy.
Thats how it goes sometimes.

I have a $40 GC credit to play with.

I use the headphones to monitor my recording and Kronos instruments.

Thank you !

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#2866349 - 07/12/17 10:03 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Why not just get an X-stand with the credit? (ducking) w00t
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#2866352 - 07/12/17 10:10 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: Synthoid]
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Depends what you need them to be. You want hyped for listening pleasure or flat for your recording and mixing/mastering efforts?
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#2866367 - 07/12/17 10:54 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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You get what you pay for with headphones, but for the price range you're in the Audio-Technica ATH-M20x headphones are pretty nice.

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#2866369 - 07/12/17 11:05 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: DulceLabs.com]
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They're over your budget, but I've used the AKG-K240s for years. They're $69 at GC. Not sure the difference between the K240s and the K240 MKII, which are $150 and pretty much the standard, other than detachable cables, etc.
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#2866373 - 07/12/17 11:22 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: J. Dan]
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i never found headphones at that price at GC that i even partially liked, they all "changed" the sound of my keyboard as I heard it in my ears.

I don't think they had ATH-20s where I went, and I didn't really know about headphones at the time. so not sure on those. But as I kept trying pairs and taking them back, each time adding $10-$20 to my budget, I got to $150 ATH-M50s. and here I stopped - I like these alot. if -20s are similar to -50s, those might be good.

no experience with AKGs ...
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#2866382 - 07/12/17 11:48 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: Synthoid]
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Why not just get an X-stand with the credit? (ducking) w00t




I can do better. My neighbor has a junky old acoustic piano sitting in his front yard.

I can use that as a stand and my cats can play with all the spiders, too . A win/win
wink

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#2866383 - 07/12/17 11:49 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Depends what you need them to be. You want hyped for listening pleasure or flat for your recording and mixing/mastering efforts?


I guess my o/p was not clear.

For recording mixing mastering

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#2866389 - 07/12/17 11:56 AM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Then my brother I would suggest you're not going to find anything reasonable for those purposes at that price point.

Getting 'reasonably' flat response is itself a pretty subjective adjective (one man's acceptable, is another's...), but from my anecdotal experience reasonably flat (for mixing and mastering) doesn't enter the picture until about $200.

I think you can find decent recording 'phones round the $100 (I don't mind practicing and recording, on, for example, Senn HD280s), but I wouldn't expect to be able to mix on them and deliver transferable results (transferable to widely different playback configurations and settings).

If $100 phones you can mix with exist, I've never found them. As far as mastering goes, I know nothing useful about that black art - except to say the very few mastering guys I have met, they all use their own monitoring speakers, none of them use headphones to master.

Just my anecdotal experience.

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#2866406 - 07/12/17 01:07 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: timwat]
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My headphones died. Whhhhaaa. Bought these from Amazon, $80.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AJIF4E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Love them, good sound, seem to be durable, good reviews. I like Sony Headphones. They also make great camcorders.


Edited by SkiGuy777 (07/12/17 01:08 PM)
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#2866407 - 07/12/17 01:16 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: timwat
Then my brother I would suggest you're not going to find anything reasonable for those purposes at that price point.

Getting 'reasonably' flat response is itself a pretty subjective adjective (one man's acceptable, is another's...), but from my anecdotal experience reasonably flat (for mixing and mastering) doesn't enter the picture until about $200.

I think you can find decent recording 'phones round the $100 (I don't mind practicing and recording, on, for example, Senn HD280s), but I wouldn't expect to be able to mix on them and deliver transferable results (transferable to widely different playback configurations and settings).

If $100 phones you can mix with exist, I've never found them. As far as mastering goes, I know nothing useful about that black art - except to say the very few mastering guys I have met, they all use their own monitoring speakers, none of them use headphones to master.

Just my anecdotal experience.

Tim


ok, ok, I will raise my budget.

They better be worth it wink

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#2866408 - 07/12/17 01:18 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: SkiGuy777]
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Originally Posted By: SkiGuy777
My headphones died. Whhhhaaa. Bought these from Amazon, $80.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AJIF4E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Love them, good sound, seem to be durable, good reviews. I like Sony Headphones. They also make great camcorders.


Shure, Sony. I have heard of them.

I actually have the MDR7506. . They are +15 yrs old. Slightly worn out, lots of ear wax.

You know how it goes. If not, I have photos
J/K


Edited by GregC (07/12/17 01:19 PM)

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#2866409 - 07/12/17 01:18 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: timwat
Then my brother I would suggest you're not going to find anything reasonable for those purposes at that price point.


QFT.

Sorry, but $40, even in US funds, is wholly unreasonable to expect "good" for "recording mixing mastering".
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#2866410 - 07/12/17 01:20 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: timwat
Then my brother I would suggest you're not going to find anything reasonable for those purposes at that price point.


QFT.

Sorry, but $40, even in US funds, is wholly unreasonable to expect "good" for "recording mixing mastering".


I know, I know. Its a challenging unrealistic topic.

But everyone is still helpful. Which I appreciate.

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#2866413 - 07/12/17 01:29 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Depends what you need them to be. You want hyped for listening pleasure or flat for your recording and mixing/mastering efforts?


I guess my o/p was not clear.

For recording mixing mastering


I got lucky once, just once in this price range with a pair of Samson CH700's.
They were cheap and I am amazed at how useful they turned out to be
http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/headphones/ch-series/ch700/
Headphone Type: Closed
Driver Size: 40mm
Frequency Response: 20Hz-22kHz
Impedance: 64 ohms

I wind up A/B'ing with these even when I have other pricier ones to pick from because they tend not to lie to me. Really surprised by them. But they were discontinued. Replaced by the SR550 which I think are the same phones in a new style. I'd say they are worth a go at $39.99.
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#2866427 - 07/12/17 02:09 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Originally Posted By: GregC
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: timwat
Then my brother I would suggest you're not going to find anything reasonable for those purposes at that price point.


QFT.

Sorry, but $40, even in US funds, is wholly unreasonable to expect "good" for "recording mixing mastering".


I know, I know. Its a challenging unrealistic topic.

But everyone is still helpful. Which I appreciate.


As long as it's clear that, although I'm giving you negative information, it's me being helpful by being honest. wink
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#2866432 - 07/12/17 02:15 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: GregC
Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
[quote=timwat]Then my brother I would suggest you're not going to find anything reasonable for those purposes at that price point.


QFT.

Sorry, but $40, even in US funds, is wholly unreasonable to expect "good" for "recording mixing mastering".


I know, I know. Its a challenging unrealistic topic.

But everyone is still helpful. Which I appreciate.


As long as it's clear that, although I'm giving you negative information, it's me being helpful by being honest. wink[/quote]

You have good opinions, or even good information, better than most.

Keep up the good fight for truth in music gear smile

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#2866434 - 07/12/17 02:29 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Originally Posted By: GregC
You have good opinions, or even good information, better than most.

Keep up the good fight for truth in music gear smile


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#2866441 - 07/12/17 02:43 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: Sven Golly]
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I love Grados. Some nice ones can be had for $70.
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#2866446 - 07/12/17 03:10 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Originally Posted By: GregC

I can do better. My neighbor has a junky old acoustic piano sitting in his front yard.


Do you live near Sven?

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#2866451 - 07/12/17 03:54 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: DulceLabs.com]
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Originally Posted By: DulceLabs.com
Originally Posted By: GregC

I can do better. My neighbor has a junky old acoustic piano sitting in his front yard.


Do you live near Sven?


very close. 4000 miles give or take.

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#2866452 - 07/12/17 03:59 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted By: GregC
[quote=ElmerJFudd]Depends what you need them to be. You want hg


I got lucky once, just once with a pair of ( fill in )
They were cheap ( (fill in )

I wind up A/B'ing others (Fill in)
pricier ones to pick from because they tend not to lie to me.

Really surprised (fill in)


I could have such fun with your post as it contains universal truthiness.

But this is a family forum and some blush easily wink

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#2866461 - 07/12/17 04:45 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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#2866469 - 07/12/17 05:44 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: Synthoid]
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LOL
I fear you could do this to a lot of posts and launch your own forum with a much larger membership! facepalm

Get it, "large member!?"
What!?
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#2866474 - 07/12/17 06:44 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
LOL
I fear you could do this to a lot of posts and launch your own forum with a much larger membership! facepalm

Get it, "large member!?"
What!?
roll


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#2866475 - 07/12/17 06:45 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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#2866476 - 07/12/17 06:46 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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We could do that and have a Very Funny forum

orr....

start posts like ... " Best Rack Nodule for under $100 """

LOL

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#2866477 - 07/12/17 07:02 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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Back on topic:

You won't find these at Guitar Center, but they claim to be calibrated by Phil Jones (of Phil Jones Bass fame), and they're only $40.

Edifier H840 headphones
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#2866481 - 07/12/17 07:21 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: timwat
Back on topic:

You won't find these at Guitar Center, but they claim to be calibrated by Phil Jones (of Phil Jones Bass fame), and they're only $40.

Edifier H840 headphones


Thats great, thank you ! And I was talked into spending $200

I guess I will have to roll with the changes wink

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#2866486 - 07/12/17 07:43 PM Re: Good(or better) quality headphones , under $50 ? [Re: GregC]
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I believe it's worth it to make sure you have good headphones.

Remember the function they serve - for you to be able to hear all the sounds you're making....or all the sounds that other people are making.

Your ears are arguably the most important thing in our craft/passion. As far as I can tell, the first thing in the chain after your ears is essentially the gateway to everything else.

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