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#2865906 - 07/10/17 12:21 PM Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
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Rompler that still nobody has equal its _____ to this date

example
M1 piano patch for dance tracks? smile
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#2865909 - 07/10/17 12:26 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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Roland XP30 - decent keybed, decent construction, internal power supply, good range of sounds and very slim and compact.

Hopefully this is in keeping with the aims of the OP in starting this thread
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#2865911 - 07/10/17 12:31 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: The Piano Man]
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I m very exited about your answers.. thankyou guys


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#2865914 - 07/10/17 12:36 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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I think the Sweet Flute on the Yamaha Motif series (as well as S90 etc.) is pretty darn awesome, particularly the flutter effects that can be applied in different variations.

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#2865917 - 07/10/17 12:54 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: eric]
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Originally Posted By: eric
I think the Sweet Flute on the Yamaha Motif series (as well as S90 etc.) is pretty darn awesome, particularly the flutter effects that can be applied in different variations.


So Can somebody please then play Jlos "jenny from the Block" on them? smile


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#2865924 - 07/10/17 01:11 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.
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#2865926 - 07/10/17 01:13 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.



thanx actually my question also wanted to includes keyboard like the D50 .
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#2865939 - 07/10/17 01:40 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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There are times I really miss my D-50. But, it was becoming more of a doorstop gathering dust. frown
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#2865943 - 07/10/17 01:55 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....
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#2865944 - 07/10/17 02:05 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: fjzingo]
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Roland JV 1000 when fully loaded ( with questionable features... but that aside ) it retailed at Hollywood Guitar Center at over $5000
The way the bass and piano worked together was great. I tried the follow ups to it later on
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#2865954 - 07/10/17 02:40 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: I-missRichardTee]
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Kurzweil K250, K1000, etc. pianos and lots of other things... so simple by today's standards but so right sometimes too.

The E-MU Proteus 2000 was a highly useful ROMpler as well.

As far as not having been surpassed... beauty is in the ear of the beholder.
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#2865959 - 07/10/17 02:57 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I would like to go back in time and hear the 360 System keyboard. I was absolutely blown away when I first heard it but that was a hell of a longtime ago. I wonder how the sound set has held up...... probably not so good.

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#2866006 - 07/10/17 06:10 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: CEB]
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#2866010 - 07/10/17 06:25 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Markyboard]
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I guess if you consider the Mellotron the first mainstream "rompler" (though the sounds were recorded on tape rather than in ROM), you could say no one has topped that for what it is...
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#2866016 - 07/10/17 06:46 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: AnotherScott]
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Roland piano FP4 and other model's scat singer patch.

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#2866049 - 07/10/17 09:21 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: 16251]
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CEB, I think the 360 Systems sounds awfully good today for such an old machine. Here's a demo

https://soundcloud.com/brian-kehew/360-systems-keyboard


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#2866054 - 07/10/17 09:36 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: rod76]
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#2866058 - 07/10/17 10:16 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: CEB]
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I remember seeing that ad in Contemporary Keyboard back in the day, but I never ever saw one in the flesh anywhere in So Cal. But clearly Brian has one.....that guy has one of everything.

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#2866068 - 07/11/17 01:02 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: The Piano Man]
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Originally Posted By: The Piano Man
Roland XP30 - decent keybed, decent construction, internal power supply, good range of sounds and very slim and compact.

Hopefully this is in keeping with the aims of the OP in starting this thread


Definitely this - couldn't really do without mine for all of the above.
I love it so much I bought a spare and the new one now has a complete new set of springs boing
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#2866069 - 07/11/17 01:03 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
I guess if you consider the Mellotron the first mainstream "rompler" (though the sounds were recorded on tape rather than in ROM), you could say no one has topped that for what it is...

It can't be beaten but ROMpler - thats stretching it (geddit? :-) )
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#2866084 - 07/11/17 04:56 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Losendoskeys]
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Every keyboard has at least a few good to great sounds as well as a plethora of useless junk. But then of course one man's meat is another man's poison.

And sometimes even the junk can be a layered component to something much greater than the sum of its parts.

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#2866101 - 07/11/17 06:42 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: fjzingo]
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Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....


That was an Emulator (II or III, I can't remember) Shakuhachi sample.

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#2866112 - 07/11/17 07:17 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.


I'd argue it was a rompler - what with it's collection of rom based attack transients. In fact, what keyboard before the D-50 was using rom based samples?

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#2866113 - 07/11/17 07:21 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: ABECK]
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what keyboard before the D-50 was using rom based samples?

I think the aforementioned 360 Systems keyboard was the first. But, yeah, not exactly the mainstream board that the D50 was!
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#2866121 - 07/11/17 07:55 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: ABECK]
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.


I'd argue it was a rompler - what with it's collection of rom based attack transients. In fact, what keyboard before the D-50 was using rom based samples?


I guess you could call it a rompler... perhaps a "hybrid" of sorts.

Actually the Ensoniq ESQ-1 which preceded the D-50 offered ROM-based samples. A quote from the Vintagesynth.com website:

What really sets the ESQ-1 apart from other similar synths is the voice architecture. Choose from analog, digital, or samples or any combo since there are three independent oscillators per voice! Once you start editing on the ESQ-1 you will come up with interesting and unique results. Using dynamic voice allocation it can seamlesly switch from 8-voices of analog to 8-voices of digital or sampled voices! This gives you a wide array of different sonic elements at your fingertips!
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#2866126 - 07/11/17 08:11 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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Ooh, ESQ, good one. Forgot about them.
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#2866129 - 07/11/17 08:18 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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I bought the original ESQ-1 when it first came out and spent hours programming it. Really fat analog sounds and the sequencer was easy to use as well. All metal construction too--built like a tank!

Perhaps it didn't have any "signature" sounds, but I had a lot of fun with it. It was the first keyboard I owned with a real sampled piano sound. Quite awful by today's standards but our band liked it. laugh
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#2866145 - 07/11/17 09:40 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Actually the Ensoniq ESQ-1 which preceded the D-50 offered ROM-based samples.


What the ESQ-1 offered (like the Korg DW-8000 and Kawai K-3) are single-cycle PCM waveforms burned into ROM. Not full blown (but relatively short) sample transients - as in the D50.

So, you weren't going to get a Shakuhachi sample in any of those synths, but you COULD better emulate sounds such as Organ or Steel Drum, through the use of those specialized digital waveforms.
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#2866156 - 07/11/17 10:19 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: synthizen2]
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What the ESQ-1 offered (like the Korg DW-8000 and Kawai K-3) are single-cycle PCM waveforms burned into ROM. Not full blown (but relatively short) sample transients - as in the D50.

Good point.

That 360 systems piece with full instrument samples in ROM was ahead of its time. I think the next attempt at that approach was the early Kurzweils, and it finally had real mainstream success in the Korg M1.
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#2866167 - 07/11/17 12:26 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Kurzweil K250, K1000, etc. pianos and lots of other things... so simple by today's standards but so right sometimes too.

The E-MU Proteus 2000 was a highly useful ROMpler as well.

As far as not having been surpassed... beauty is in the ear of the beholder.


Maybe that's why I've sold it 3 times, only to keep buying it again! crazy
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#2866173 - 07/11/17 12:48 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Darcity]
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EMU Proteus--the original one at least, not sure about the later ones--had the extremely handy feature of letting the extra outputs double as inputs. Basically it was a built-in line mixer without any controls (iirc, perhaps there was something internal you could set, though I don't think so). My live rig as a Roland JX-10 with outputs and midi going to the Proteus!

I know that's been done a few times, but it's such a nice feature that I wish it was more common. I use a submixer and never need to EQ...I set things up at unity and use each synth's output to match.

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#2866194 - 07/11/17 01:57 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: joegerardi]
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Aha do you kniw where one could get hold of that sample
?

Originally Posted By: joegerardi
Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....


That was an Emulator (II or III, I can't remember) Shakuhachi sample.

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#2866249 - 07/11/17 10:49 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Darcity]
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Just curious as to why someone would call a Wavestation a Rompler. Isn't it a synth in and of itself?

Back to topic... I think the EMU 2000's are fantastic Romplers.
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#2866254 - 07/11/17 11:25 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: seanl]
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If we call a synth using snippets of samples in rom as the waveform a rompler, then wavestation must be the utter rompler where you can staple these snippets after each other.

How about yamaha sy22, never tried that synth, wasn't that somewhat similar in architecture as the wavestation?



Originally Posted By: seanl


Just curious as to why someone would call a Wavestation a Rompler. Isn't it a synth in and of itself?

Back to topic... I think the EMU 2000's are fantastic Romplers.
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#2866255 - 07/12/17 12:08 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: BuckW]
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Every keyboard has at least a few good to great sounds as well as a plethora of useless junk. But then of course one man's meat is another man's poison.


Now just you wait a minute
One man's food is another man's potatoes. and meat and potatoes is a perfectly good thing esp for a lounge keyboard sot like me.
Why would I choose to drink poison, old Socrates didnt fair well with it.
If you want to eat or drink poison or eat a potato that's you business
Me? I am minding my p's and cues.


Edited by I-missRichardTee (07/12/17 12:09 AM)
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#2866257 - 07/12/17 12:56 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: CEB]
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I would like to go back in time and hear the 360 System keyboard. I was absolutely blown away when I first heard it but that was a hell of a longtime ago. I wonder how the sound set has held up...... probably not so good.



Go find a vid of Michael Iceberg's "Iceberg Machine" - I believe he was using the 360 Systems machine in his huge rig back in the days of his Tomorrowland shows @ Disneyland.
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#2866258 - 07/12/17 01:06 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: fjzingo]
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Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Aha do you kniw where one could get hold of that sample
?

Originally Posted By: joegerardi
Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....


That was an Emulator (II or III, I can't remember) Shakuhachi sample.

..Joe

I sampled the CD like


Edited by Losendoskeys (07/12/17 01:06 AM)
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#2866285 - 07/12/17 06:29 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: I-missRichardTee]
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Originally Posted By: I-missRichardTee
Originally Posted By: BuckW
Every keyboard has at least a few good to great sounds as well as a plethora of useless junk. But then of course one man's meat is another man's poison.


Now just you wait a minute
One man's food is another man's potatoes. and meat and potatoes is a perfectly good thing esp for a lounge keyboard sot like me.
Why would I choose to drink poison, old Socrates didnt fair well with it.
If you want to eat or drink poison or eat a potato that's you business
Me? I am minding my p's and cues.


Tell me about it. I don't think the Yamaha TX81Z was very well thought of. I had one and liked it. They got dirt cheap and I bought another. Two together are a synergy. You can set them to receive on the same MIDI channel and globally detune them and create some monster FM leads and basses. They were MIDI channel 7 on my rig for years.
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#2866287 - 07/12/17 06:37 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: fjzingo]
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Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Aha do you kniw where one could get hold of that sample
?


EVERYONE had a shakuhachi in the 80's. I used the Korg M1 sound, and with very little tweaking (it was WAY too wet) it was just what I needed.

I believe that it's still in the General MIDI soundset, and they're not bad, usually.

If you're the patient type, you could probably find it on the Synthmania site.

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#2866290 - 07/12/17 06:41 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: seanl]
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Just curious as to why someone would call a Wavestation a Rompler. Isn't it a synth in and of itself?


It's only kinda A ROMpler. technically, it's a Wavetable synth, a la the PPG 2.3, the Prophet VS, the Ensoniq SQ synths, the Kawai K1, et al. It uses cycles of samples sounds as waveforms. However, people wanted ROMplers, back then, so they created the Wavestion EX, which indeed had full sample-based sounds and programs available.

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#2866298 - 07/12/17 07:23 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: fjzingo]
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Originally Posted By: fjzingo
If we call a synth using snippets of samples in rom as the waveform a rompler, then wavestation must be the utter rompler where you can staple these snippets after each other.


Great sounds but a bear to program. I have the software version which is easier to work with, but still challenging.
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#2866365 - 07/12/17 10:51 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: fjzingo]
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Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Aha do you kniw where one could get hold of that sample
?


Originally Posted By: joegerardi
Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....




That was an Emulator (II or III, I can't remember) Shakuhachi sample.

..Joe


I've got it on an EII CD for my E4 Ultra. Also converted it to Kontakt and EXS so if you want it, give me a shout. Same CD also has the marcato strings and trumpet used on Pet Shop Boys West End Girls.


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#2866397 - 07/12/17 12:30 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Lee T]
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If I recall right (never owned one), the D-50 had short (small memory footprint) sampled attacks only, onto which were grafted standard subtractive-synthesis waves for the sustaining portion.

The D-50's most famous sound was "digital native dance," which was a series of attack transients that were adjacent in memory, in which an early programming error had left out the "last memory address" parameter. When the folks at Roland heard it, it was so cute that they kept it and added a loop parameter to it.
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#2866420 - 07/12/17 01:55 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Lee T]
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Originally Posted By: Lee T
Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Aha do you kniw where one could get hold of that sample
?


Originally Posted By: joegerardi
[quote=fjzingo]Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....




That was an Emulator (II or III, I can't remember) Shakuhachi sample.

..Joe


I've got it on an EII CD for my E4 Ultra. Also converted it to Kontakt and EXS so if you want it, give me a shout. Same CD also has the marcato strings and trumpet used on Pet Shop Boys West End Girls.
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#2866424 - 07/12/17 02:06 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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The wavestation was for many years the only synth I had, with the m1 pianocard for pianoduties.

I Got pretty good at mimicking other synths on it+ make cool sounds. Unfortunately alll gone.....there was also a list kind of function I used as set list.

bought the ipad app out of nostalgia, but so deeply into analog synthesis now.


Originally Posted By: Synthoid
Originally Posted By: fjzingo
If we call a synth using snippets of samples in rom as the waveform a rompler, then wavestation must be the utter rompler where you can staple these snippets after each other.


Great sounds but a bear to program. I have the software version which is easier to work with, but still challenging.
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#2866431 - 07/12/17 02:13 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: joegerardi]
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Originally Posted By: joegerardi
Originally Posted By: fjzingo
Aha do you kniw where one could get hold of that sample
?


EVERYONE had a shakuhachi in the 80's. I used the Korg M1 sound, and with very little tweaking (it was WAY too wet) it was just what I needed.

I believe that it's still in the General MIDI soundset, and they're not bad, usually.

If you're the patient type, you could probably find it on the Synthmania site.

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#2866473 - 07/12/17 06:23 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: eric]
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I think the Sweet Flute on the Yamaha Motif series (as well as S90 etc.) is pretty darn awesome, particularly the flutter effects that can be applied in different variations.


Agreed!! Always gets a great response!
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#2866504 - 07/12/17 09:02 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: KeyMoe]
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This may be cheating, but the Roland GS sound set. Everybody has a GM bank of shitty generic sounds. If you knew what you were doing, you could really coax excellent sequences out of that GS sound set. I had sequences that sounded awesome on a JV-30, SC-55, SC-88, didn't matter. Those sounds I thought were the best generic bread and butter sounds for that sort of thing - yeah, not the best piano, not the best organ, etc...but for the time, you could do just about anything with that sound set and the GS format meant you could manipulate to your heart's content. I did a sequence of NIN "Closer" on a GS soundset that sounded spot on (with a hell of a lot of streaming of NRPN's, like sweeping that filter frequency)
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#2866556 - 07/13/17 06:08 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: J. Dan]
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Agreed. I Have the Roland M-GS64, and I have no embarrassment stating I like the sounds on it.

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#2866563 - 07/13/17 06:37 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: I-missRichardTee
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Every keyboard has at least a few good to great sounds as well as a plethora of useless junk. But then of course one man's meat is another man's poison.


Now just you wait a minute
One man's food is another man's potatoes. and meat and potatoes is a perfectly good thing esp for a lounge keyboard sot like me.
Why would I choose to drink poison, old Socrates didnt fair well with it.
If you want to eat or drink poison or eat a potato that's you business
Me? I am minding my p's and cues.


Tell me about it. I don't think the Yamaha TX81Z was very well thought of. I had one and liked it. They got dirt cheap and I bought another. Two together are a synergy. You can set them to receive on the same MIDI channel and globally detune them and create some monster FM leads and basses. They were MIDI channel 7 on my rig for years.


Still got mine like
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#2866636 - 07/13/17 11:23 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Losendoskeys]
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I loved the joystick on my triton. Better then the one on the Kronos actually.
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#2866643 - 07/13/17 11:50 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: RudyS]
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I loved the joystick on my triton. Better then the one on the Kronos actually.


Agreed, except currently the one on my old Triton Pro sticks in the bend up position. Could probably be fixed if I opened it up.
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#2866648 - 07/13/17 12:11 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: J. Dan]
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My Kurzweil 1000 series romplers (PX, HX, SX, GX) are still delivering the goods since the late 1980s. They may lack modern features such as digital FX and analog filters, but the raw sounds are so good that I have no compelling reason to replace them. Plus their MIDI implementation is very comprehensive.

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#2866677 - 07/13/17 02:28 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: J. Dan]
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Originally Posted By: RudyS
I loved the joystick on my triton. Better then the one on the Kronos actually.


Agreed, except currently the one on my old Triton Pro sticks in the bend up position. Could probably be fixed if I opened it up.


I had some probleem with it as well after a few years. The spring was not properly kept in place. It was an easy fix.
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#2866724 - 07/13/17 08:34 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: RudyS]
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I got an original Motif back around 15 - 16 years ago. Many of those sounds were/are so good that they're still with us in the Montage.

As others have mentioned, Sweet Flute comes to mind, and I have always liked the Slow Jam organ patch. The Motif's ability to bring the Leslie effect in and out with the mod wheel has always worked well for me.

Slow Jam may not be the world's greatest Hammond simulation, but it works really damn well across most styles and just sounds damn nice in the proverbial mix.
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#2866756 - 07/14/17 05:29 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Michael W]
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I got an original Motif back around 15 - 16 years ago. Many of those sounds were/are so good that they're still with us in the Montage.

As others have mentioned, Sweet Flute comes to mind, and I have always liked the Slow Jam organ patch.

Yeah, Yamaha has some of the best acoustic instrument sampled, and sweet flute is a classic that still hasn't been matched in anyone else's boards. But for a rompler organ, my favorite is the Tube Organ patch in the Yamaha S30/S80. It's not available in the later Yamahas (i.e. in Motif series). I tried to recreate it on my MOX, but even though you could basically get the same waves out of it, there seemed to be no "tube overdrive" effect in the Motif environment that was nearly as good as the one in the S30/S80.
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#2866774 - 07/14/17 06:58 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: AnotherScott]
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On that subject the Oboe sound which is standard on the XP30 is THE best I have ever heard, no competition even now.
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#2866779 - 07/14/17 07:28 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Losendoskeys]
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Except maybe the Oboe found in the E-mu Proteus 2. smile

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#2866782 - 07/14/17 07:47 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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I seem to recall my ESQ-1 had a tasty oboe patch as well.
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#2866884 - 07/14/17 02:51 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthoid]
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The JV-2080. I doubt there are many hardware synths today that can load 4 extra banks.
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#2867512 - 07/17/17 03:43 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Music Bird]
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I am still using the base acoustic piano patch in my Roland XV-5050 for basic chucka-chucka acoustic piano sounds, in songs like "China Grove" and "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" (Gladys). Our covers band uses 6 people in most songs, so the AP sound needs to fit into a slice and get heard. I have a Nord Electro 3, and the Royal Grand is very nice even in mono for solo pieces but I have not figured out how to make it cut in a 6 person covers band. I loaded the Amber Upright "L" into the Nord and tweaked the EQ to prep for a gig last Saturday Night. 30 seconds into "China Grove", I was not sure it was creating the right sound, but before I changed anything my son told to switch back to the XV-5050, and I did so in the middle of the song.

Of course, this XV-5050 AP patch sounds pretty crappy by itself. My next try will probably be to reload the Royal Grand and try more EQ settings. To answer a likely next likely question for some of you, I'm feeding this into an EV zxa1.

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#2867514 - 07/17/17 04:12 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Music Bird]
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The JV-2080. I doubt there are many hardware synths today that can load 4 extra banks.

I think the question would be more one of whether there are sounds that you find exceptional in there, as opposed to "how many banks" which is kind of arbitrary. I mean, even with the extra expansions filled up, it's still less total wave ROM than what already comes stock in a MOXF. Still, the JV sound set seems to have held up pretty well... I think everything in the 2080 was in the 5080, which still provides the base sound set for the FA.
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#2867556 - 07/17/17 10:21 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Darcity]
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#2867596 - 07/18/17 06:50 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Music Bird]
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The JV-2080. I doubt there are many hardware synths today that can load 4 extra banks.


The Proteus 2000 series had a total of 4 banks, so it's close. Get a bog-standard P2000, and you could add say, the B3 module, the Vintage module, and the Orchestral module along with the included Composer module, and then you have a real beast of a Pro2000.

Grab the Perfect Piano module and swap it in there for when you need more pianos, and it's pretty much got everything. And they're all E-Mu samples.

Oh, another great ROM is the Protozoa- it's the original Proteus 1, 2, and 3's ROMs all on one module, so you get the best of both worlds sticking that one in.

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#2867821 - 07/19/17 08:17 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: joegerardi]
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No mention of Alesis in this thread.
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#2867828 - 07/19/17 08:34 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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I know there are some great patches on the QS series synths, but all I have here is an Alesis Ion. Nothing that really stands out as unique.
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#2867846 - 07/19/17 09:36 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthaholic]
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No mention of Alesis in this thread.

They had some QS sounds sampled from Keith Emerson's instruments, those might still be considered unique and unsurpassed today, for what they are.
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#2867866 - 07/19/17 11:04 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: AnotherScott]
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Well I just picked up 2 Roland 3080's for a song on ebay for my 80's project...one for gigging, one for the rehearsal space...both came with various cards installed...they are pretty chock-full-of-sounds.

Unfortunately my Nord Electro 5d (not a good controller at all) and my MIDI rig routing hit a snag (which I solved) and number of items to carry practicality wall, just to much gear for me right now to carry and manage! So there they sit in my racks in the basement for the time being...

think I'm gonna hold on to them though...

though the Nord 'sample player' is actually very good sonically
on some sounds there is less punch and presence so I was hoping to MIDI then up to the 5d but it wasn't a straightforward MIDI routing to them because of the way my rig is configured and the 5d's limitations of not storing external Patch and Band parms..


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#2867905 - 07/19/17 02:24 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Legatoboy]
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#2867971 - 07/20/17 02:46 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: dje31]
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I still love my 5080. Only got a handful of cards and don't use it much, but it's instantly space opera soundtrack when I do, and for that it's worth it!
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#2867976 - 07/20/17 05:14 AM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: Synthaholic]
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No mention of Alesis in this thread.


The Alesis didn't stand out in any one area, but it pretty much did everything well. Its lack of a resonant filter was its biggest drawback, but to counter that, they sampled synth sounds with resonance to get the effect.

A QSR is a requirement in my rack, much like my Triton rack: I don't use them all the time, but when I want a certain sound, I know it's there, and will fit well in the mix.

That said, the Alesis' were good for what they were, but there's no part of them "without equal."

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#2868613 - 07/22/17 04:19 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: joegerardi]
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I said the JV-2080 because it has a lot of good patches, that are still used today. Especially in stuff like video games and anime music, where it is as equally as popular as the SC-55 and SC-88. The specific patches that are good include the many synth leads and basses, and the Sound Canvas still works for many genres, it's super underrated.
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#2868637 - 07/22/17 07:32 PM Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date? [Re: joegerardi]
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+1 for the old QSR's. They were very competent meat and potatoes romplers back in the mid to late 90's. They were tough and reliable as well. I abused a QS6 for several years back then and never had problem with it. I still have a Nanosynth buried somewhere in my closet.

I'd like to give a shout out for the Ensoniq MR76 which was also a very good rompler for its day back in the late 90's, although the board was a beast to transport. I sold the MR76 board and but kept the rack version until a couple of years ago.
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