#2865906 - 07/10/17 12:21 PM
Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
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Rompler that still nobody has equal its _____ to this date example M1 piano patch for dance tracks? 
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#2865909 - 07/10/17 12:26 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Ensenada Guide]
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Roland XP30 - decent keybed, decent construction, internal power supply, good range of sounds and very slim and compact.
Hopefully this is in keeping with the aims of the OP in starting this thread
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#2865924 - 07/10/17 01:11 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Ensenada Guide]
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Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.
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#2865926 - 07/10/17 01:13 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Synthoid]
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Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.
thanx actually my question also wanted to includes keyboard like the D50 .
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#2865943 - 07/10/17 01:55 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Synthoid]
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Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer....
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#2865944 - 07/10/17 02:05 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: fjzingo]
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Roland JV 1000 when fully loaded ( with questionable features... but that aside ) it retailed at Hollywood Guitar Center at over $5000 The way the bass and piano worked together was great. I tried the follow ups to it later on and I swear to you, there was a subtle inferiority to the result esp the bass. Already mentioned in another thread, my replacement for JV 1000 was the PC88 the best compromise with split ac bass, layered ac piano and strings.
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#2865954 - 07/10/17 02:40 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
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Kurzweil K250, K1000, etc. pianos and lots of other things... so simple by today's standards but so right sometimes too.
The E-MU Proteus 2000 was a highly useful ROMpler as well.
As far as not having been surpassed... beauty is in the ear of the beholder.
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#2866016 - 07/10/17 06:46 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: AnotherScott]
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Roland piano FP4 and other model's scat singer patch.
(Not really useful, but great fun for all.)
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#2866054 - 07/10/17 09:36 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
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Thanks
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#2866058 - 07/10/17 10:16 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: CEB]
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I remember seeing that ad in Contemporary Keyboard back in the day, but I never ever saw one in the flesh anywhere in So Cal. But clearly Brian has one.....that guy has one of everything.
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#2866068 - 07/11/17 01:02 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: The Piano Man]
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Roland XP30 - decent keybed, decent construction, internal power supply, good range of sounds and very slim and compact.
Hopefully this is in keeping with the aims of the OP in starting this thread Definitely this - couldn't really do without mine for all of the above. I love it so much I bought a spare and the new one now has a complete new set of springs 
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#2866069 - 07/11/17 01:03 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: AnotherScott]
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I guess if you consider the Mellotron the first mainstream "rompler" (though the sounds were recorded on tape rather than in ROM), you could say no one has topped that for what it is... It can't be beaten but ROMpler - thats stretching it (geddit? :-) )
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#2866084 - 07/11/17 04:56 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Losendoskeys]
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Every keyboard has at least a few good to great sounds as well as a plethora of useless junk. But then of course one man's meat is another man's poison.
And sometimes even the junk can be a layered component to something much greater than the sum of its parts.
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#2866101 - 07/11/17 06:42 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: fjzingo]
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Many sound on the Wavestation for sure, then there was this fairlight or was it synclavier flute from the 80s which everyone use, you know the one in sledgehammer.... That was an Emulator (II or III, I can't remember) Shakuhachi sample. ..Joe
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#2866112 - 07/11/17 07:17 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Synthoid]
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Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.
I'd argue it was a rompler - what with it's collection of rom based attack transients. In fact, what keyboard before the D-50 was using rom based samples?
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#2866113 - 07/11/17 07:21 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: ABECK]
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what keyboard before the D-50 was using rom based samples? I think the aforementioned 360 Systems keyboard was the first. But, yeah, not exactly the mainstream board that the D50 was!
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#2866121 - 07/11/17 07:55 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: ABECK]
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Not a rompler, but there are several signature Roland D-50 sounds that are often duplicated but not equalled.
I'd argue it was a rompler - what with it's collection of rom based attack transients. In fact, what keyboard before the D-50 was using rom based samples? I guess you could call it a rompler... perhaps a "hybrid" of sorts. Actually the Ensoniq ESQ-1 which preceded the D-50 offered ROM-based samples. A quote from the Vintagesynth.com website: What really sets the ESQ-1 apart from other similar synths is the voice architecture. Choose from analog, digital, or samples or any combo since there are three independent oscillators per voice! Once you start editing on the ESQ-1 you will come up with interesting and unique results. Using dynamic voice allocation it can seamlesly switch from 8-voices of analog to 8-voices of digital or sampled voices! This gives you a wide array of different sonic elements at your fingertips!
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#2866129 - 07/11/17 08:18 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
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I bought the original ESQ-1 when it first came out and spent hours programming it. Really fat analog sounds and the sequencer was easy to use as well. All metal construction too--built like a tank! Perhaps it didn't have any "signature" sounds, but I had a lot of fun with it. It was the first keyboard I owned with a real sampled piano sound. Quite awful by today's standards but our band liked it.
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#2866145 - 07/11/17 09:40 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: Synthoid]
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Actually the Ensoniq ESQ-1 which preceded the D-50 offered ROM-based samples. What the ESQ-1 offered (like the Korg DW-8000 and Kawai K-3) are single-cycle PCM waveforms burned into ROM. Not full blown (but relatively short) sample transients - as in the D50. So, you weren't going to get a Shakuhachi sample in any of those synths, but you COULD better emulate sounds such as Organ or Steel Drum, through the use of those specialized digital waveforms.
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#2866156 - 07/11/17 10:19 AM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
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What the ESQ-1 offered (like the Korg DW-8000 and Kawai K-3) are single-cycle PCM waveforms burned into ROM. Not full blown (but relatively short) sample transients - as in the D50. Good point. That 360 systems piece with full instrument samples in ROM was ahead of its time. I think the next attempt at that approach was the early Kurzweils, and it finally had real mainstream success in the Korg M1.
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#2866167 - 07/11/17 12:26 PM
Re: Rompler that still nobody has equal its________ to date?
[Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Kurzweil K250, K1000, etc. pianos and lots of other things... so simple by today's standards but so right sometimes too.
The E-MU Proteus 2000 was a highly useful ROMpler as well.
As far as not having been surpassed... beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Maybe that's why I've sold it 3 times, only to keep buying it again!
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