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#2872364 - 08/11/17 11:11 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: burningbusch]
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Busch,

Yes I checked them all. No sympathetic string resonance. Plenty of damper resonance though, so it isn't really noticeable, like for example on the CP4.
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#2872527 - 08/12/17 08:53 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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Edited by ElmerJFudd (08/12/17 08:55 AM)
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#2872543 - 08/12/17 11:04 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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EP's don't sound authentic to me, more like "Lounge Lizard" than "Rhodes".


Edited by gg22 (08/12/17 11:05 AM)

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#2872560 - 08/12/17 02:23 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: gg22]
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My new video of all EPs. https://youtu.be/ZPbUVvMlsI8
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#2872561 - 08/12/17 02:24 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: gg22]
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For what it is worth, comparing them side by side with those in Keyscape, it is REALLY close.
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#2872564 - 08/12/17 02:35 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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What a fine specimen of a keyboard an outstanding representation of modern technology smile

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#2872573 - 08/12/17 05:56 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
My new video of all EPs. https://youtu.be/ZPbUVvMlsI8


Thanx for sharing. Unfortunately the Korg presets are so dressed up in fx I can't get a sense of what the base samples sound like. Anyone else feel that way?
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#2872581 - 08/12/17 09:04 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Best Grandstage demo so far. Thanks Macsaint777.

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#2872587 - 08/13/17 12:06 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
My new video of all EPs. https://youtu.be/ZPbUVvMlsI8


Thanx for sharing. Unfortunately the Korg presets are so dressed up in fx I can't get a sense of what the base samples sound like. Anyone else feel that way?


Elmer, I'll do one with no reverb, and no effects showing just the EP sounds, so you can get a good idea of what the basic samples (I think it is modeled actually) sound like.
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#2872651 - 08/13/17 11:56 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
My new video of all EPs. https://youtu.be/ZPbUVvMlsI8


Thanx for sharing. Unfortunately the Korg presets are so dressed up in fx I can't get a sense of what the base samples sound like. Anyone else feel that way?


Elmer, I'll do one with no reverb, and no effects showing just the EP sounds, so you can get a good idea of what the basic samples (I think it is modeled actually) sound like.



I'm interested in this, too. I was pleasantly surprised with the lack of that familiar Korg cheese in the AP samples - they sound pretty dynamic! I've thought since the SV-1 that Korg had the best EPs in hardware, so they'd be a no-brainer, but yeah, each time I hear a Rhodes saturated with stereotypical tremolo/phaser/flanger/wah whatever, my ears glaze over and I fast forward. Just tones, please!! And... can you find time to give us another for basses?

Really do appreciate your work on this, Macsaint777.



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#2872655 - 08/13/17 12:14 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: drawback]
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I've thought since the SV-1 that Korg had the best EPs in hardware, so they'd be a no-brainer

though as discussed in another thread a while back, the SV1 was from Korg Italy and the Grandstage (like Kronos) is from Korg Japan, and there are numerous differences in the technologies they are using. The SV1 had the tube, too.
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#2872656 - 08/13/17 12:18 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: AnotherScott]
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Ah - haven't been following. Admittedly Korg hasn't been on my radar!

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#2872665 - 08/13/17 01:19 PM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
My new video of all EPs. https://youtu.be/ZPbUVvMlsI8


Thanx for sharing. Unfortunately the Korg presets are so dressed up in fx I can't get a sense of what the base samples sound like. Anyone else feel that way?


Elmer, I'll do one with no reverb, and no effects showing just the EP sounds, so you can get a good idea of what the basic samples (I think it is modeled actually) sound like.



That would be awesome.
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#2872775 - 08/14/17 03:04 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Elmer, as promised. SoundCloud is faster, and no video is needed. So here are all the Korg Grandstage EPs with no added effects, no Eq, and no reverb.

https://soundcloud.com/macsaint777/sets/korg-grandstage-eps-with-no-effects

Drawback, I am working on another video of all the other sounds, but won't have time to complete it until late this week. I'm going away for a few days, but should be done by this weekend.
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#2872809 - 08/14/17 07:07 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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So if I'm following the Korg logic (and I'm probably not), the SV1, Kronos & Grandstage all have different keybed actions?
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#2872817 - 08/14/17 07:23 AM Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) [Re: Macsaint777]
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Originally Posted By: Macsaint777
Elmer, as promised. SoundCloud is faster, and no video is needed. So here are all the Korg Grandstage EPs with no added effects, no Eq, and no reverb.

https://soundcloud.com/macsaint777/sets/korg-grandstage-eps-with-no-effects

Drawback, I am working on another video of all the other sounds, but won't have time to complete it until late this week. I'm going away for a few days, but should be done by this weekend.


Really helpful. OK - definitely a modeled sound. Not bad or good, just a quality. These timbres would work in a lot of settings, particularly with band. But not as detailed as what we're getting from large sample libraries in Kontakt or Omnisphere - stuff noticeable to us as players and lovers of these historic electromechanical instruments.

I think I prefer Pianoteq's tines and reeds over Korg's EP-1, at least in this situation where you don't get the edit-ability like you do on the Kronos.

The acoustic pianos I am pleasantly surprised by though, especially compared with what they put on the SV-1. wink
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