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#2861701 - 06/20/17 06:23 AM Roland & SE boutique series analog
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The answer to U.B. Model-D.

If there weren΄t the line lump and 1/8" audio connectors, I΄d love it already.
Rumour is it will be $500,-.
Roland/SE vs Behringer clone

Product website w/ introduction-vid and audio demos.
Roland SE-02

A.C.


Edited by Al Coda (06/20/17 06:41 AM)

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#2861721 - 06/20/17 07:16 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Al Coda]
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I thing I would jump on this way before the Behringer one, which I may have gone for otherwise.
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#2861722 - 06/20/17 07:21 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Beethree]
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Me, too. I love the Studio Electronics guys. cool

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#2861725 - 06/20/17 07:25 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Dave Bryce]
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This looks nice. Demos sound good.
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#2861726 - 06/20/17 07:30 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Al Coda]
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Fantastic!!! I can live w/1/8"

Mini clone + 16 step seq , programmable, tempo synced LFO
+ CV control.

I want One!!
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#2861729 - 06/20/17 07:35 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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I wonder which filter they used. If it is a Roland filter of a Studio Electronics filter. Studio Electronics is the bomb.
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#2861735 - 06/20/17 07:47 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: CEB]
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#2861736 - 06/20/17 07:53 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I believe the filter is SE. It is definitely a ladder filter.
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#2861764 - 06/20/17 08:50 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Beethree]
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Wonderful! Another Minimoog clone....! facepalm

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#2861769 - 06/20/17 09:02 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Marzzz]
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I'm kinda disappointed, I was hoping for a new poly synth frown

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#2861771 - 06/20/17 09:12 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: whannah]
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Well, that was unexpected, specially coming from Roland, and I like that there also using their new line of cables, lets see if they keep it up in all of their new videos


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#2861775 - 06/20/17 09:15 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Marzzz]
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#2861780 - 06/20/17 09:23 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: MorayM]
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Maybe it can do more good stuff, but to me most of the sounds demo-d are to rear-endy for my taste, so maybe just like the previous digital imitations of analog: I have the feeling there's more distance to the analog and the imitation, all the more when you process the signal. Oh and everyone knows I'm in every sense not a a rear guy, at all.

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#2861784 - 06/20/17 09:38 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Theo Verelst]
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It does, if you are in the Roland Boutique world it does USB out to the MX-1 mixer - midi/sync/audio over one cable.
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#2861786 - 06/20/17 09:41 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Marzzz]
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Wonderful! Another Minimoog clone....! facepalm

Ah, but this might be the one I want!

I have a Creamware Minimax which sounds great, but it's a bit big and heavy, awkward to place in the rig. The Behringer lacks presets which makes it a lot less versatile in a live rig. Same with the real MiniMoog reissue (plus it's heavy, and for me, unnecessarily another board in the rig, and pricey).

I've had mixed feelings about the Roland Boutiques. The JP-08 is very cool, but the sliders are awkward, between the small travel and the force needed to move them. The JX-03 knobs work better, but the sound is thin. So this new one could work...
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#2861787 - 06/20/17 09:52 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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Well, I am kinda hoping that Roland and SE consider some kind of Omega/Code poly in the near future. But if I were looking forward a Mini clone, this would be a first choice.

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#2861788 - 06/20/17 09:52 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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It's tiny. That's a bonus for folks that might like to Velcro this to their SK-1 (or lots of other stuff).
I wish it were poly though! I don't get to play enough leads and basses in band context - too many brass, reed, and bass players hanging around! Then I need a DM-12 next to it, then why carry both? wink
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#2861801 - 06/20/17 10:27 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Then I need a DM-12 next to it, then why carry both? wink

Because they don't sound the same. ;-)

It's kind of funny to think, in that combo, you'd have a Behringer synth that sounds like an old Roland, and a Roland synth that sounds like an old Moog.
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#2861802 - 06/20/17 10:30 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
It's kind of funny to think, in that combo, you'd have a Behringer synth that sounds like an old Roland, and a Roland synth that sounds like an old Moog.

Truth.

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#2861805 - 06/20/17 10:36 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Dave Bryce]
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That is funny.

But, Scott. The "they don't sound the same" argument doesn't fly with the CEO (aka Mrs. Fudd). smile
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#2861817 - 06/20/17 11:16 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I got the email today and saw it before this forum post. It didn't occur to me that Roland would try to emulate Moog, so that wasn't even on my mind when I looked at it. Instead, I noticed the absence of Roland's usual preference for sliders vs. knobs, and some uncanny resemblance to the Korg MS2000 or maybe even RADIAS.

Now I'm disappointed, as it looks built like a tank but I have no need for a Moog clone since I have the deal deal. But as the Voyager has now been canceled, and I think the "D" reissue is limited edition, there are bound to be plenty of people who need this synth.
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#2861819 - 06/20/17 11:25 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
But as the Voyager has now been canceled, and I think the "D" reissue is limited edition, there are bound to be plenty of people who need this synth.

Also, there is differentiation in when you look at things like size/weight, programmability, price, aesthetics/ergonomics... i.e. even if all are available, they don't all appeal equally to the same customers.
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#2861822 - 06/20/17 11:31 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
the real MiniMoog reissue (plus it's heavy, and for me, unnecessarily another board in the rig, and pricey).


I have similar concerns. The reissue looks great but space for keyboards is limited for me.

Looking forward to hearing more examples of the sequencer in action.

Curious to see if this partnership will lead to an SE redesign of classic Roland polysynths in future products
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#2861827 - 06/20/17 12:08 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: GovernorSilver]
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I'm holding out for Yamaha's version.
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#2861830 - 06/20/17 12:28 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Markyboard]
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Originally Posted By: Markyboard
I'm holding out for Yamaha's version.
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It'll have sliders. poke idk

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#2861832 - 06/20/17 12:31 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Markyboard]
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I'm holding out for Yamaha's version.
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All they have to do is partner w/ some Moog clone builder. Roland got SE, which is just one.

Macbeth perhaps?


Edited by GovernorSilver (06/20/17 12:32 PM)
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#2861833 - 06/20/17 12:34 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Markyboard]
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I really appreciate that Roland didn't jam pitch and mod ribbons on this one. Going for knobs the full width may make actually make it useable.

This is obviously more practical than a straight Minimoog clone if Roland got the sound right, and maybe fixed a few things. Wasn't there an issue with SE-1 envelopes being sluggish?

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#2861839 - 06/20/17 12:48 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Bill H.]
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I might be judging roland prematurely here but i think they missed an opportunity to feature their claim chained mode to do some memorymoog type sounds, perhaps it's not ready yet, but 6 of those things chained together would have made some wow factor in the video

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#2861841 - 06/20/17 12:58 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: _Maximus_]
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I might be judging roland prematurely here but i think they missed an opportunity to feature their claim chained mode to do some memorymoog type sounds, perhaps it's not ready yet, but 6 of those things chained together would have made some wow factor in the video

I wonder how many people would be interested, at $3k. Though even that is a bargain compared to what a Memorymoog originally went for, even before adjusting for inflation. And this would be a lot lighter, and presumably a lot more stable... Hmmm, now I'm feeling tempted. ;-)
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#2861842 - 06/20/17 01:04 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: _Maximus_
I might be judging roland prematurely here but i think they missed an opportunity to feature their claim chained mode to do some memorymoog type sounds, perhaps it's not ready yet, but 6 of those things chained together would have made some wow factor in the video

I wonder how many people would be interested, at $3k. Though even that is a bargain compared to what a Memorymoog originally went for, even before adjusting for inflation. And this would be a lot lighter, and presumably a lot more stable... Hmmm, now I'm feeling tempted. ;-)


If one of them sounds close to a minimoog, 6 of them chained will not sound anything like a Memorymoog.

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