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#2865215 - 07/07/17 03:11 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: RudyS]
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Originally Posted By: RudyS
Why are they making these things this small? As that really for saving costs on materials or is the market demanding this?


I have an original TR-606 and the overall dimensions are not that different than the new TB-03. But the TB-03 crams more into the same space. But most of the other Boutiques cram many more knobs/switches into the same space. I find most Eurorack stuff is fine. I'm also OK with the Korg xxx-logues. For me the Roland Boutique series takes it to an extreme.

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#2865533 - 07/08/17 09:24 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: burningbusch]
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Sound is the juice.
My Physis K4 and Ribbon Controller from Solaris will keep this toy in its mini bag on the floor....
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#2865569 - 07/09/17 06:26 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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Any word when the Roland SE02 will become available?

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#2865576 - 07/09/17 07:09 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: TomKittel]
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August, no particular week was given.
But this is great news.
Another 4U ATA I won't be stacking up.
It was 8U, but Solaris, Zebra2 HZ and Omnisphere can get great lead sounds.
No way they got close to the SE-1X for big ass bottom sound.
So I kept one fir low end.
Now that rack gets a proper burial in my studio.
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#2866275 - 07/12/17 05:39 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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#2866277 - 07/12/17 05:57 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: TomKittel]
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I'm curious about the delay, if it can do long ping pong type delays. I can't find any in depth literature that would give those specs.
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#2866281 - 07/12/17 06:17 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: TomKittel]
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I liked this one...

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#2866292 - 07/12/17 06:48 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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yes, that is a nice demo. not all buzzy blips and bloops like people seem to make on demos.
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#2866296 - 07/12/17 07:18 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Al Coda]
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Yeah that was tasty and a bit mesmerizing. laugh
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#2866312 - 07/12/17 07:57 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Synthoid]
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I had my doubts since my SE-1Xs have multiple waveforms PER Oscillator.
Putting Sine or Tri under Saw is powerful.
But listening to the SE-02 Oscillators I can't hear any difference.

The cascading of 6 of these is possible.
It's done through MIDI which doesn't seem like a great choice.
But getting 4 of these with the agreement I can return 3 if I find any lag is what I'm going to do.

I begged for 3 Oscillators when SE CODE was being developed.
Not that the Omega 8s weren't great sounding but that 3rd multiwave oscillator would have been amazing.

Zen Master says we'll see.....

If I had these in '97 I coulda been a contenda.....
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#2866471 - 07/12/17 06:04 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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I'm excited about this one. I used to deal with the Studio Electronics guys in the 90s when I was at Chuck Levins; great guys. I think their demos for this are really compelling, too. Not crazy about the size, but that is the trend now, and who would have thought a Minimoog-like instrument of this quality could be had for $500? Great time to be a synthesist!
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#2867221 - 07/16/17 07:46 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Roger Hooper]
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Lots of interesting info here...

http://www.studioelectronics.com/products/synths/se-02/

(The good stuff really starts below the big picture, with the heading "Caswell Knowledge (Mr. Studio Electronics)")
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#2868933 - 07/24/17 08:15 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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Just noticed that:
According to GC, available on 8/10/17
Oh, the wait is unbearable!
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#2869064 - 07/25/17 04:54 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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I just noticed that by an incredible coincidence the SE-02 fit perfectly the free space on the right of my Nord Electro 5 HP panek, above the keyboard.

That is a dangerous provocation.

Maurizio


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#2869101 - 07/25/17 09:11 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: mauriziodececco]
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It'll fit nicely on top of my Nord A1 too. I just tested it with my Jupiter 8 module... really tempted to get this. I can get some immediate use out of it for my Floyd band.
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#2869138 - 07/25/17 12:36 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: DanL]
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I have my bag already.
I plan on using Ribbon controllers and pedals to control the SE-02.
It will sit it under my rack safe from Jager spills.

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#2869141 - 07/25/17 12:42 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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The boutique bag took a while to get here.
Amazon wouldn't tell me where it came from, but I've seen this before and they're 20 bucks, and high quality zippers and material.

My luck SE-02 probably has a really nice bag it's shipped in.
But I have lots of Orange and Black Steel toed tennis shoes, watchbands.
I be stylin n shit....
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#2871605 - 08/08/17 08:48 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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A pair of SE-02s arrives today.
Hope Chain Mode works.
Actually wish it didn't.
I could save a couple large..
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#2871612 - 08/08/17 10:08 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware
My luck SE-02 probably has a really nice bag it's shipped in.


Sorry no gig bag. I think your gonna love these things for the
"solid bass" though.
I keep thinking to myself, "I should have bought two of them" laugh . Maybe I will
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#2871879 - 08/09/17 01:57 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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Fat ass synth.
They're really SE-1s with better MIDI control.
Solaris high res Ribbon on the Filter is awesome.
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#2871895 - 08/09/17 03:04 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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Did you notice the additional CC #
cc 81 Dynamics
cc 84 After touch Sens 1
cc 85 After touch sens 2

85 seems to adjust AFT filter amount but can't figure out what
81 and 84 do. Are these on SE-1s?
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#2871917 - 08/09/17 06:31 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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I think they might be different curves for AFT maybe.
Hard or Soft?

SE-1s don't have-near the CCs SE-02s does.

I'm too busy trying to write out presets to use Friday.
Got a great Edgar Winter Frankenstein solo preset.
I like adding sync to Filter cut off for a more pronounced wash-was effect,
Got Tom Sawyer Drone, Straubs Drone.
Zawinuls leads, Fromthe beginning ELP Sync, etc.etc.

I'll be back Tuesday to talk shop.
SE-02 sits under my iLok/USB/LCD Stand...

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#2871937 - 08/09/17 08:59 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware
I think they might be different curves for AFT maybe.
Hard or Soft?

SE-1s don't have-near the CCs SE-02s does.

I'm too busy trying to write out presets to use Friday.
Got a great Edgar Winter Frankenstein solo preset.
I like adding sync to Filter cut off for a more pronounced wash-was effect,
Got Tom Sawyer Drone, Straubs Drone.
Zawinuls leads, Fromthe beginning ELP Sync, etc.etc.

I'll be back Tuesday to talk shop.
SE-02 sits under my iLok/USB/LCD Stand...

https://ibb.co/bEQCCF



Thanks for checking!
Frankenstein - Coool
No problem, later
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#2872001 - 08/10/17 06:27 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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Hey you have to attach a controller to Delay time, maybe AFT with custom settings.
Slight modulations really give this synth a fat pitch mod.
Like an old Lexicon Prime Time.
Use that on long glides and you have a HUGE Wide Fat sound.
Separate glide amounts for each Oscillator sound fantastic.
I love this fat Bastard...
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#2872227 - 08/10/17 11:56 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: hardware]
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Hey you have to attach a controller to Delay time, maybe AFT with custom settings.
Slight modulations really give this synth a fat pitch mod.
Like an old Lexicon Prime Time.
Use that on long glides and you have a HUGE Wide Fat sound.
Separate glide amounts for each Oscillator sound fantastic.
I love this fat Bastard...



Oh Yah, completely agree. The FX delay is really useful and
analog sounding. I have been mapping cc's from my XL7 which has a small pitch strip along with a nice real time sequencer which records midi cc , along with notes and knobs.
No problems reacting to fast midi cc ins (so far)

Just found a patch with AFT connected to lfo>>filter mod amount.

I notice there is a bend range CC # 87 Might be useful w/ your pitch strip.

Had to drag out the EV 1803 cab to fully appreciate laugh
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#2872245 - 08/11/17 04:06 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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Karl- how long is the delay- can it do times over a second? Can it ping pong?
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#2872372 - 08/11/17 11:49 AM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: DanL]
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Originally Posted By: DanL
Karl- how long is the delay- can it do times over a second? Can it ping pong?


The delay on the SE-02 is 1 second max at the front panel knobs
full setting. I don't think ping pong is available, because I don't see a "delay type" parameter. Nothing in the midi cc list either. I believe the delay is an analog BBD type.

At this point the manual is a bit sparse. smirk
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#2872407 - 08/11/17 02:44 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: Karl Schmeer]
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Just got my SE-02, haven't hooked it up yet, but the knobs are much better than on the original Boutiqes. The knobs that are supposed to click into different positions (like waveform) have a good, positive click, more reminiscent of, well, a MiniMoog. On the JP-08 etc., they were kind of mushy, with relatively small "indents" at the "correct" positions. This feels much more solid, and it will be easier to quickly be precise in your selection.

Less of a difference, but still good to see, are the new continuous pots. On the earlier models, they were more heavily damped, requiring more force to get them moving. The new ones again feel better... still enough force required to not feel loose and sloppy, but not so much as to be annoyingly resistant to very small adjustments.

Good job!
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#2872425 - 08/11/17 03:46 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Just got my SE-02


Lucky you !
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#2872431 - 08/11/17 04:00 PM Re: Roland & SE boutique series analog [Re: davedoerfler]
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how does the mini jack audio output feel ? what kind of cable do you use ? in school those cables from ipod to stereo break every 10 min


Edited by sosho (08/11/17 04:01 PM)

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