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#2856058 - 05/18/17 10:02 PM Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition
Dave Ferris Offline
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First posted at PW.

For any piano and classical music enthusiast , a must view. Even though I'm not a fan of "competitions", I found the video fascinating !
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/tuningbattle/20170514/
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#2856065 - 05/18/17 11:09 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Fascinating indeed! Thanks Dave.

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#2856066 - 05/18/17 11:15 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: TommyS]
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My heart dropped for the pianist (and technician) playing the Fazioli that didn't make it out of the first round. frown

Also the look on the faces of the Yamaha people at the end. frown

But in a sign of true Japanese resiliency he said ...we'll be back and have an even better instrument. thu

Man how do you choose ?! -- the piano or the pianist ?! They all sound great !
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#2856075 - 05/19/17 12:55 AM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Wow. What a rarified world. Every pianist was amazing, every instrument was amazing. How do they pick a winner?
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#2856082 - 05/19/17 03:38 AM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: cphollis]
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thanks Dave!
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#2856180 - 05/19/17 02:03 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: jimkost2002]
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That was from another world! Great stuff!
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#2856188 - 05/19/17 03:20 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Ulf]
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I enjoyed the video, thanks for posting. Crazy talent exhibited by all involved.
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#2856269 - 05/19/17 10:16 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Thanks so much for posting that video! Had to watch the whole thing. I was pulling for the
Canadian, what a player! I wonder: would any of us turn down any of these exquisitely prepared pianos by brand? Not me.


Edited by rockinredeye (05/19/17 10:16 PM)

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#2856324 - 05/20/17 08:36 AM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: rockinredeye]
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Had to watch it all! Captivating.
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#2856470 - 05/21/17 06:16 AM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: CaptainUnderpant]
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Wow, so interesting! I was hoping the Canadian would win. He moved me more than the others. I preferred the Steinway. It had an amazing clarity.

I've had the same piano tuner for 18 years. To me he's a magician. I used to tell him which keys needed some adjustment but for the past 10 years or so he just knows and makes the adjustments I like without any discussion.
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#2856488 - 05/21/17 08:27 AM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Al Quinn]
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All these people from around the world who are dedicated to reproducing a fragment of European culture from the 19th century. Meanwhile half of the left coast is seeking to reproduce yoga techniques from the 7th century. It gives me a faith in mankind that is easy to lose in a world where leaders seek to divide us.

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#2856548 - 05/21/17 03:50 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: BurningPianoMan]
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Thanks so much for posting this. It was fascinating.
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#2856572 - 05/21/17 06:59 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Donsta]
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Thanks, that was fascinating. I gather no one chose the Kawai.

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#2856582 - 05/21/17 08:23 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: tbp71]
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I guess not. Some people on the PW thread commented on that too. In the brief playing I heard of the Shigeru SK-EX , I loved the tone. I've played them a few times and they are out of this world for sure !

It would have been very interesting if the American/NY Steinway was a choice in addition to the Hamburg. But then NY Steinways are as rare in Europe as Hamburgs are here.

I watched it again and really enjoyed it. On the home page it says only available until May 29. That's too bad.
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#2856584 - 05/21/17 08:31 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: BurningPianoMan]
Dave Ferris Offline
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Originally Posted By: PianoMan51
All these people from around the world who are dedicated to reproducing a fragment of European culture from the 19th century. Meanwhile half of the left coast is seeking to reproduce yoga techniques from the 7th century. It gives me a faith in mankind that is easy to lose in a world where leaders seek to divide us.


Hear hear ! Music and art like this at such a high level are very powerful. It takes us higher and is an endless journey, constant joy and privilege to do what we do.
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#2856588 - 05/21/17 09:11 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
I guess not. Some people on the PW thread commented on that too. In the brief playing I heard of the Shigeru SK-EX , I loved the tone. I've played them a few times and they are out of this world for sure !

It would have been very interesting if the American/NY Steinway was a choice in addition to the Hamburg. But then NY Steinways are as rare in Europe as Hamburgs are here.

I watched it again and really enjoyed it. On the home page it says only available until May 29. That's too bad.


I rather liked the snippet of the Kawai as well and hoped to hear more about their presence at the competition. Possibly the producers didn't feel whatever happened with Kawai fit the best storylines. It's still fascinating and very well done, though.

Regarding Hamburg and New York Steinways, last summer I attended a few sessions of the Cleveland International Piano Competition, in which those were the two choices. I recall hearing that the pianists were fairly evenly split between them, at least in the first round. I don't know which the finalists and winner chose, however.

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#2856594 - 05/21/17 10:25 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: tbp71]
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I preferred the Fazioli, but then I generally do. Everytime I have played one, it has been a near religious experience.... That and a certain Bosendorfer 228.... Sigh...

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#2856596 - 05/21/17 10:30 PM Re: Piano selection behind the Chopin Competition [Re: Nathanael_I]
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Thanks for the link Dave, I will try to watch this later.

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