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#2854994 - 05/12/17 09:35 AM 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab
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For Rhodes guys -stereo from one cabinet. From Chicago Electric Piano Co.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdAz7wsLL_c
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#2854997 - 05/12/17 09:44 AM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Dave Ferris]
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That's a great improvement. My first Rhodes had the satellite speakers and they were so bulky. Having one that delivers stereo is way better.

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#2854998 - 05/12/17 09:45 AM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Dave Ferris]
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That is awesome!!! Wonder what they cost?
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#2855009 - 05/12/17 10:23 AM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: BluesKeys]
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#2855020 - 05/12/17 11:14 AM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: BluesKeys]
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Originally Posted By: BluesKeys
That is awesome!!! Wonder what they cost?


message them through REVERB and they will give you a quote
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#2855055 - 05/12/17 03:10 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: davedoerfler]
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This might show my ignorance but isn't the cab for any suitcase model stereo? IOW a single cabinet with two speakers and two channels of amplification, like this one? I don't remember seeing Rhodes with two speaker cabs set apart from each other.

Obviously this is different, being an external speaker not meant to mate with the Rhodes keyboard body. But it doesn't seem like a completely new invention.

I owned two Rhodes stage models way back in the day, but rarely played a suitcase – I thought they could do the stereo tremolo though. Have I lost too many brain cells? I'm not trying to disparage this product in any way – just curious where it gets it's wow factor from.

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#2855057 - 05/12/17 03:34 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Reezekeys]
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Originally Posted By: Reezekeys
This might show my ignorance but isn't the cab for any suitcase model stereo? IOW a single cabinet with two speakers and two channels of amplification, like this one? I don't remember seeing Rhodes with two speaker cabs set apart from each other.

Obviously this is different, being an external speaker not meant to mate with the Rhodes keyboard body. But it doesn't seem like a completely new invention.

I owned two Rhodes stage models way back in the day, but rarely played a suitcase – I thought they could do the stereo tremolo though. Have I lost too many brain cells? I'm not trying to disparage this product in any way – just curious where it gets it's wow factor from.


The Rhodes "Stage" models do not have a preamp built-in; the only audio you have is the mono signal off the harp, and a simple tone/volume control. The "Suitcase" models have various preamps built-in (most people prefer the so-called "Petersen" variety); all the preamps take in the mono signal and output a stereo tremolo signal. And there are some rarer "Satellite" Stage models that have the built-in preamp, but the amp/speakers are remote -- they don't need to be the keyboard support, too, because the Stages have their own legs.

This product is housed in the cabinet of one of those "Satellite" amps.

The thing with the Rhodes stereo preamps is that they are part of the piano, not part of the amp. It looks like this custom design places the preamp, too, inside the cabinet, which would make it useable by any model of Rhodes. That's the thing with Fender's "Suitcase" design -- pianos and amps are mated together. This way, you've got a standalone stereo amp that can be mated with any Rhodes model.

No, it's not revolutionary by any means. Just more versatile and compact.
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#2855065 - 05/12/17 05:22 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Brad Kaenel]
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Originally Posted By: Brad Kaenel
The thing with the Rhodes stereo preamps is that they are part of the piano, not part of the amp. It looks like this custom design places the preamp, too, inside the cabinet, which would make it useable by any model of Rhodes.


Hey Brad -
I'm not seeing that at all, the piano being used in the demo has a suitcase preamp on the rail. Watch the video again and tell me what you think.
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#2855068 - 05/12/17 06:12 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: davedoerfler]
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I think the satellite speakers were called the Janus System and were used with the suitcase preamp in a stage model.


*edit, here it is



Edited by ClavAnother (05/12/17 06:14 PM)

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#2855071 - 05/12/17 06:25 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: ClavAnother]
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Originally Posted By: ClavAnother
I think the satellite speakers were called the Janus System and were used with the suitcase preamp in a stage model.


Right. So one needed to purchase a pre amp rail for their Stage Rhodes to use this system, best I can recall.
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#2855073 - 05/12/17 07:02 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: ClavAnother]
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Originally Posted By: ClavAnother
I think the satellite speakers were called the Janus System and were used with the suitcase preamp in a stage model.

Those look very different from the Fender "Super Satellite" speakers I'm coming across in my googling:


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#2855093 - 05/12/17 08:46 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Reezekeys]
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Originally Posted By: Reezekeys

Those look very different from the Fender "Super Satellite" speakers I'm coming across in my googling:
That's the cabinet that is used in the video. twothumbs
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#2855097 - 05/12/17 09:25 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Ah memories love
In the 70s, on tour with Leblanc & Carr we carried 4 of those cabs!
I put JBL 15s in the bottom two, and 8" mids and hi freq horns in the top two. Selectable crossovered with an effects loop that could be full range or just above the crossover point.
Paul Rivera (who was still a store tech at the time) built me a custom pre that had all the guts of a suitcase pre plus some special sauce. The sound was "YUGE" laugh
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#2855099 - 05/12/17 10:04 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Steve Nathan]
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Steve, I would not have wanted to be doing load-ins & outs on that tour, ouch man! (Note the "shipping weight" figures in the ad... and that's with stock components!) I'm sure your Rhodes sounded awesome too- was that before the "Dyno" mod days? I'm imagining blood coming out of ears when playing high notes through the cabs with the horns...

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#2855105 - 05/12/17 11:41 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Reezekeys]
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Originally Posted By: Reezekeys
Originally Posted By: ClavAnother
I think the satellite speakers were called the Janus System and were used with the suitcase preamp in a stage model.

Those look very different from the Fender "Super Satellite" speakers I'm coming across in my googling:



Yes, that is the earlier Mark I version of the suitcase preamp in that stage piano. The one I posted was from the Mark II era.

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#2855119 - 05/13/17 07:48 AM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: ClavAnother]
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#2855161 - 05/13/17 03:51 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: Brad Kaenel
The thing with the Rhodes stereo preamps is that they are part of the piano, not part of the amp. It looks like this custom design places the preamp, too, inside the cabinet, which would make it useable by any model of Rhodes.


Hey Brad -
I'm not seeing that at all, the piano being used in the demo has a suitcase preamp on the rail. Watch the video again and tell me what you think.


Dave, yah, I'm wrong; they only said the custom *amps* were in the cab, not the preamp. And the piano in the demo does have a Petersen preamp in the name rail, though I can't tell if it's a Stage with legs, or a Suitcase.

I jumped to the wrong conclusion that they were offering this amp for sale separately, which wouldn't make sense if the preamp wasn't in the cab. But on second listen, it's just an optional accessory with their restorations, so it follows that they would give you a new preamped name rail if they were restoring a Stage model to go with this cab.
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#2855178 - 05/13/17 07:12 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Dave Ferris]
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was that before the "Dyno" mod days?


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#2855188 - 05/13/17 08:31 PM Re: 1975 Rhodes Custom 2x12 Stereophonic Satellite Cab [Re: Steve Nathan]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Nathan
Quote:
was that before the "Dyno" mod days?


Way


thank goodness. cool
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