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#2843152 - 03/20/17 02:37 PM What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song?
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Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl. What do you play if your band is doing a song that doesn't have keys in the original?

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#2843154 - 03/20/17 02:39 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kwyn]
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Originally Posted By: kwyn
Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl. What do you play if your band is doing a song that doesn't have keys in the original?


Totally depends on the specific tune.

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#2843155 - 03/20/17 02:41 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kwyn]
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Maybe just play some faint pad sounds in the background.

That seems to work for me sometimes.
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#2843157 - 03/20/17 02:44 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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I play guitar wave

Seriously, I'm not very good on guitar, but I'm good enough to play rhythm during solos. Most rock songs are pretty simple enough that chunking through a few chords sounds better and more true to the original than trying to make up some keyboard part.

That said, there are some songs that lend themselves to keys. AC/DC, I'll be playing guitar. Georgia Satellites, I'll be playing piano, and even do a piano solo...but it's just basic blues.
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#2843158 - 03/20/17 02:46 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Yes it depends on the song, Sometimes I add wurli piano, especially if the original has two guitars and we're doing it with one guitarist. Wurli functions pretty well to take up the sonic duty of a rhythm guitar, IMO. So especially under a guitar lead, where there's rhythm guitar on the original, vamping on the wurli seems to fill it out nicely.
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#2843159 - 03/20/17 02:46 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: CEB]
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Depends on the song. Sometimes just some discrete Piano chords to thicken out the texture and keep the groove can be effective.

Or, there might be some secondary guitar lines that could sound interesting on a different patch.

Or, if you really want to wind up your guitarist - play their lead line -
let's face it, every time a band plays Superstition, 9 times out of 10 the guitarist decides to play the Clav riff anyway! :-)
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#2843161 - 03/20/17 02:50 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: CEB]
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Haha, it does depend. Unless there is space and the tune might be helped by a little something.

Example - acoustic guitar or clean pick and/or strum. A darker patch, maybe first 3 drawbars of an organ at less volume playing block chords, no strum "underneath" or "behind" the guitar would add something. Or even a bass line, if no bass part there. If no "lead" or lead licks coming from the guitar, maybe a brighter, thinner patch playing between the vocal line or filling in where not much is going on.

Some folks like to play it like the record. But remember, any song can be arranged in any way for any band whether 2 piece, or 9 piece or orchestra. It's a matter of taste and skill to be a good arranger. And there are many examples in history where a "cover" or another version, alternate arrangement, became more popular than the original. Sometimes rightly so. And sometimes it's refreshing to hear skillful musicians deliver their take on a popular tune. And MTV's unplugged on occasion also successfully highlighted - sometimes it's nice to hear a tune stripped down to its skeleton.

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#2843162 - 03/20/17 02:51 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Mighty Motif Max]
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Keyboard Mag\EM had 5 suggestions HERE last week. I used the 11th and 13th suggestion and sustaining the note during a guitar driven song that went on for 4eva at the weekend.
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#2843163 - 03/20/17 02:53 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Dave Keys]
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#2843168 - 03/20/17 03:00 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Not a lot of seconding for organ, so I will.
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#2843169 - 03/20/17 03:01 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Tambourine!

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And if you're gonna be playing a guitar part on keys, for the love of everything that's holy, learn the exact voicings!
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#2843173 - 03/20/17 03:09 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Markay]
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I'm done playing second fiddle behind guitars. I have done that for too many years - no more.

I play guitar too. But the guitar player dominated the song selection so much that I played guitar 80% of the time and most people didn't even know I was a keyboard player. I was not happy with that image, I was vocal about my frustrations, nothing improved for two years so I left the band.

My next music project will be my own band, which may not include a guitar player. I've seen way too many club bands playing guitar songs. There are a lot of good keyboard songs that are not getting played because guitar players don't have any fun playing them on guitar. Well they've had their fun.

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#2843175 - 03/20/17 03:14 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: The Real MC]
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Seriously, it can be fun to wander down the front of the stage and just do some backing vocals.

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#2843176 - 03/20/17 03:14 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: nickd]
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#2843178 - 03/20/17 03:16 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: marczellm]
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Originally Posted By: marczellm
Tambourine!

...with one hand, piano bass (or reasonable facsimile) doubling guitars with the other hand.

Play one of the guitar parts on keyboard even if you know how to play Actual Guitar - it's actually kinda fun. I do this with the acoustic guitar part on Long Train Running, and the rhythm guitar on Long Cool Woman.

Picking up a guitar is still my favorite option. rawk

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#2843182 - 03/20/17 03:24 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2843187 - 03/20/17 03:33 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: The Real MC]
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I just don't play anything. I wish the guitar players would do the same with the material that has no guitars in it.
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#2843189 - 03/20/17 03:39 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: U.Honey]
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What do you play if your band is doing a song that doesn't have keys in the original?


Those are the best tunes: I write my own part and play the hell out of it!

Listen to Jon Lord.

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#2843190 - 03/20/17 03:40 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
I do this with the acoustic guitar part on Long Train Running,


I do that also and fill out the choruses with B3.

I put the guitar down and got back onto B3 during the guitar fest as there is only so much I can do playing 2nd guitar and after a while I figure I can make an extended jam more interesting on keys once the groove is laid down.

Try to give the song a Santana or Black Crowes feel.
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#2843191 - 03/20/17 03:45 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Markay]
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#2843197 - 03/20/17 04:12 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: zephonic]
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#2843198 - 03/20/17 04:13 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: U.Honey]
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Originally Posted By: U.Honey
I just don't play anything. I wish the guitar players would do the same with the material that has no guitars in it.
like


Edited by David Loving (03/20/17 04:14 PM)
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#2843203 - 03/20/17 04:32 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kwyn]
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Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl.

in addition to what you already posted I used to pee. w00t
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#2843205 - 03/20/17 04:35 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: kwyn
Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl.

in addition to what you already posted I used to pee. w00t


I suppose the magic in that four course meal is all in the order of sequence.
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#2843206 - 03/20/17 04:38 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Join a different band.
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#2843208 - 03/20/17 04:39 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: marczellm]
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Tambourine More cowbell!


Fixed.
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#2843209 - 03/20/17 04:42 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: kwyn
Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl.

in addition to what you already posted I used to pee. w00t


I suppose the magic in that four course meal is all in the order of sequence.



of course. Pee immediately after leaving the stage. wink
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#2843214 - 03/20/17 04:50 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: davedoerfler]
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#2843219 - 03/20/17 05:07 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Joe Muscara]
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I just picked up some shaker eggs and have had a lot of fun throwing some percussion into the mix. Otherwise, I 2nd (3rd?) the suggestions for wurly and organ depending on the tune. Also, some distorted clav can work great.

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#2843221 - 03/20/17 05:15 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: NosPup]
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Scotch....

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#2843222 - 03/20/17 05:16 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: NosPup]
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#2843228 - 03/20/17 05:54 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Moonglow]
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#2843236 - 03/20/17 06:41 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: mate stubb]
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I am with J. Dan on this one. I play rhythm guitar. It stinks to take and setup two rigs but it has made me more marketable over the years.

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#2843238 - 03/20/17 06:57 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kenheeter]
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What does a keyboard player do doing an all-guitar song?

Anything he damn well pleases.

As above, it depends on the song and my mood. There's always something to add.
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#2843241 - 03/20/17 07:01 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kenheeter]
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Scotch....


One must be more specific.

I don't always drink Scotch, but when I do I prefer single malt Islay, which has a name:
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#2843245 - 03/20/17 07:10 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: BEMcCut]
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Since our band has 2 guitar players, I often switch to a good guitar setting and act like a 3rd guitar most of the songs from groups who have 3 guitars, then switching off on breaks to a little organ,piano or elect piano sound, whichever seems most appropriate.

Usually on Eagles, CCR, etc. Best improvement/fuller sound in our band are on Hotel California live version or Wanted Dead or Alive, where it's easier for me to play the signature parts along with the lead guitar, and let the rhythm guitar just do something else.

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#2843247 - 03/20/17 07:16 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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I think of some of the Clavinet playing on NRBQ records - sounds like great rhythm guitar playing.
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#2843253 - 03/20/17 07:42 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: BrandonBruce]
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#2843259 - 03/20/17 08:01 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kwyn]
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Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl.


I thought you said there were guitarists on stage??
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#2843263 - 03/20/17 08:06 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: zephonic]
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I knew a keyboard player who did that. I usually play a pad, piano, organ, ect... I finally wrote a killer guitar patch on my keyboard to play rhythm. It is so fun and sounds good in the mix. You could take a coffee break.

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#2843269 - 03/20/17 08:33 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: DJ RAZZ]
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Turn way down and pretend you are actually playing. Meanwhile look around and think about life...

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#2843272 - 03/20/17 08:40 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Jazz+]
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Sorry, alcohol and I do not get along when gigging. Just to be clear, I'm a HUGE alcohol fan, just not when playing. I do all sorts of tight percussive parts, and any amount of booze throws me off. After the gig, all bets are off.

Of course, when the gig sucks, and there's nothing else to do, I'm right there.
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#2843276 - 03/20/17 08:58 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: cphollis]
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Grinding organ voices. One of my main long time gigs I'm also the other guitarist so that's solved there. I can make the song sound good either way, but I'm not laying out.


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#2843282 - 03/20/17 09:14 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: JohnH]
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#2843283 - 03/20/17 09:24 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: JohnH]
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Lots of useable ideas here. I've done most everything that has already been suggested, except drink, dance, or leave the stage. I'm not reluctant to create space by not playing anything at all for a period of time (something that I wish more players would do), but I usually just try to contribute or create something that makes a song sound better or even takes a song to a new place. (Clearly, I have a gig that allows me some freedom to be a creator, rather than a replicator.)

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#2843284 - 03/20/17 09:28 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Piktor]
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#2843439 - 03/21/17 11:01 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Jazz+]
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Turn way down and pretend you are actually playing. Meanwhile look around and think about life...


This too. I accidentally had to do this at one point when the schedule for the set was messed up; I went up on the stage with the pianist, only to find out that this song was not printed in the order of songs! Turned out, it was a guest singer facepalm , so I had to play with the volume off.
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#2843441 - 03/21/17 11:06 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Rusty Mike]
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Join a different band.


Best answer...thread over.
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#2843450 - 03/21/17 11:40 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Outkaster]
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Have temporary tattoos made of the band's logo. Find attractive women to apply them to, especially if they are wearing low cut tops and will let you apply them (in)appropriately. Take a picture and then ask them to friend you on FB so you can tag them.

By then they should be on to the next song.
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#2843455 - 03/21/17 11:58 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: J. Dan]
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Originally Posted By: J. Dan
1. Have temporary tattoos made of the band's logo. 2. Find attractive women to apply them to, especially if they are wearing low cut tops and will let you apply them (in)appropriately. 3. Take a picture and then ask them to friend you on FB so you can tag them.

4. If you make it this far, issue backstage pass.

OR

5. Skip the next song too.
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#2843461 - 03/21/17 12:22 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Moonglow]
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I go 88800000 or Wurly or nothing (aka: look and the woman dancing)


Edited by Legatoboy (03/21/17 12:23 PM)
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#2843462 - 03/21/17 12:25 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Moonglow]
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Depends on the song. I used to use 888000000 with any amount of overdrive (again, depending on the song), slightly overdriven Rhodes or Wurli, or even just an acoustic piano patch. I don't do this any longer, since I'm now the bassist.
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#2843463 - 03/21/17 12:26 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Moonglow]
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I think if you are doing this often, I agree with the "find a different band" option.

- If they are a set starter, I might stay off stage and get a listen to how things sound out front. I do this for Eruption on the rare occasion we play it and join in for You Really Got Me.

- If my guitar skills improve, I'm hoping to join in the fun!

- Almost all of the time, organ EP and/or piano fit into guitar oriented classic rock, b3 especially. Not always though...Dirty Deeds I don't think any keyboard is going to fit into (we've had this discussion before, some disagreed!)...thankfully we've dropped it at this point. I just picked a synth bass patch, turned it way down and pretended to play basically...the show must go on yada yada but not my cup of tea to pretend to play music....


Edited by Stokely (03/21/17 12:29 PM)

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#2843464 - 03/21/17 12:29 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: justin_havu]
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While my party band plays Led Zeppelin's "Rock & Roll", I just go to the front of the stage and play tambourine.
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#2843466 - 03/21/17 12:31 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: tucktronix]
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^ Ironically that has piano in it grin

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#2843468 - 03/21/17 12:43 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Stokely]
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Originally Posted By: Stokely
^ Ironically that has piano in it grin


The piano is noticeable towards the end of the track. Outside of that, there isn't much piano going on. It's more of a judgement call. "Do I get back to my rig to play the "piano" part.. or do I continue to play tambourine at the front of the stage". I started playing piano on it, but found it way too guitar-y and the drums way too loud.. makes playing the piano part less enjoyable. And to be honest, I really don't think anyone misses the piano smile


Edited by tucktronix (03/21/17 12:46 PM)
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#2843473 - 03/21/17 01:06 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: tucktronix]
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A lot of times I play over-driven organ. Like on Good Times Bad Times, or Cinnamon Girl or White Room.

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#2843475 - 03/21/17 01:12 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: timwat
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: kwyn
Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl.

in addition to what you already posted I used to pee. w00t


I suppose the magic in that four course meal is all in the order of sequence.



laugh Tim !! I was trying to eat lunch, at my desk. Almost had to clean the desk..
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#2843476 - 03/21/17 01:17 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: allan_evett]
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Back in the day when I had a REAL Leslie I ran my REAL Clavinet through it and played rhythm..

...Really..

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#2843480 - 03/21/17 01:49 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: allan_evett]
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Originally Posted By: allan_evett

laugh Tim !! I was trying to eat lunch, at my desk. Almost had to clean the desk..


Sorry about that, Allan!

But think of the vast differences in outcomes...if you just run through the permutations of options...


Edited by timwat (03/21/17 01:52 PM)
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#2843482 - 03/21/17 01:57 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: timwat
Originally Posted By: allan_evett

laugh Tim !! I was trying to eat lunch, at my desk. Almost had to clean the desk..


Sorry about that, Allan!

But think of the vast differences in outcomes...if you just run through the permutations of options...


Oh yes, I pondered all the permutations of options; then I pondered them again. boing
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#2843506 - 03/21/17 03:08 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: allan_evett]
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Sorry to interrupt the humour but - distorted Wurly. I've made *guitar players* go "oh yeah" when they hear what it sounds like.

Cheers, Mike.
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#2843507 - 03/21/17 03:14 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Depends on the song. We do "Hey Jealousy" and I play guitar voicings on a Hammond sound and it fits right in. We play Reeling in the Years and I split the keyboard (piano/guitar) and play the harmonized guitar licks along with the guitar player. For Burning for You - 4 zones - grungy guitar for the intro, voices, synth brass and finally a lead guitar sound to play harmonized guitar. I find that a real guitar harmonizing a synth guitar sounds pretty cool. For other tunes I will play a little rock piano ( I think Wurly and Rhodes are also good go to sounds). There are few songs I completely sit out due to no keyboards in the original recording.
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#2843520 - 03/21/17 04:41 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Rusty Mike]
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My standard is a grinding organ patch to cover rhythm guitar parts.
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#2843549 - 03/21/17 07:27 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Quote:
While my party band plays Led Zeppelin's "Rock & Roll", I just go to the front of the stage and play tambourine.


You need to listen to Jerry Lee Lewis play this song, on his Last Man Standing album. Out-fricken-standing.
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#2843553 - 03/21/17 08:15 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: WesG]
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Originally Posted By: WesG
Quote:
While my party band plays Led Zeppelin's "Rock & Roll", I just go to the front of the stage and play tambourine.


You need to listen to Jerry Lee Lewis play this song, on his Last Man Standing album. Out-fricken-standing.


Just listened to it.. smokin'!!
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#2843554 - 03/21/17 08:35 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: tucktronix]
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One of my strategies is to just kinda dance behind your keyboard on parts when I don't play.

If you look and dance like me, that should be enough to ensure a minimal number of such events in the set list.

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#2843668 - 03/22/17 11:27 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Dreamchilde]
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Originally Posted By: Dreamchilde
Not a lot of seconding for organ, so I will.


I'll third that emotion. A little B3 texture---kinda like putting a little mayo on an Italian Cold Cut sandwich; it can stand with just the meats, oil, cheese, onion, peppers, etc, but that layer of mayo always helps.
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#2843669 - 03/22/17 11:35 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: sagetunes]
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there's not a lot in this world a layer of mayo (or B3) DOESN'T help!

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#2843670 - 03/22/17 11:35 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: sagetunes]
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Hammond, distorted Wurly, AP, Clav... There's always room for a little something. But hold the mayo. razz
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#2843673 - 03/22/17 11:46 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Wastrel]
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Yawn! Just be creative to what the song needs AP, Organ.
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#2843676 - 03/22/17 11:55 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: timwat]
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Many rock songs have room for and sound good with added piano, Rhodes or organ even though there was none on the recording, so in those cases II"ll do that (usually just reinforcing the rhythm and chords, not adding any prominent new material); with many others, it doesn't fit and doesn't sound right, and so I'll lay out, wait it out (sing backups if appropriate), and if it's appealing in the moment, go out and join the front of the crowd for a bit of dancing or air-guitar/fist-pumping.
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#2843677 - 03/22/17 12:07 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Dave Keys]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Keys
...Or, if you really want to wind up your guitarist - play their lead line -
let's face it, every time a band plays Superstition, 9 times out of 10 the guitarist decides to play the Clav riff anyway! :-)


That's because they think Stevie Ray Vaughan wrote it.
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#2844445 - 03/25/17 08:44 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kenheeter]
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I play guitar as well as keys and the bands I'm in (Journey Tribute and also a rock cover band) use me as the utility player so I can comp on guitar or play harmony leads if the song calls for it. Would be nice to be able to grab a Jameson's on the rocks though. =)
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#2844451 - 03/25/17 09:08 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Kevin Sage]
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Because it can be interesting to break consensus in the face of error: talk, ponder on the popularity of breaking the "less is more" rule, learn the difference between cocky guitar players and those who occasionally at least want an all electro-mechanical sound. And it much depends on who leads the band and their musical taste.

T


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#2844482 - 03/25/17 11:13 AM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: Theo Verelst]
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Yep

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#2844554 - 03/25/17 05:00 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: kwyn]
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Originally Posted By: kwyn
Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl. What do you play if your band is doing a song that doesn't have keys in the original?


never hurts to Ian MacLagan tf out:

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#2844557 - 03/25/17 05:11 PM Re: What does a keyboard player do during an all guitar song? [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Originally Posted By: hurricane hugo
Originally Posted By: kwyn
Besides leave the stage, get a beer and a girl. What do you play if your band is doing a song that doesn't have keys in the original?


never hurts to Ian MacLagan tf out:





Great song love the Wurly and oh yeah Rod was born to be a front man.
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