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#2842984 - 03/20/17 04:38 AM Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d?
big jilm Offline
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Hi, all -

When we have a gig at a venue that has a PA already there for us to use, I run my keyboards (Juno DS and MicroKORG) through one of my band's QSC K12's. Sounds great.

I am looking to get a cheaper powered speaker for the times we have to run our own sound as the QSC gets used as one of our mains.

The Behringer b112d fits the bill, as it has two inputs and an out to run to a mixer if I need it. Anybody using one of these as a keyboard monitor? If so, how do you like it?

I have heard. Behringer has quality issues, but I have also heard that their newer stuff seems to be built better. The price is right, as I cannot afford anything close to what it would take to pick up another QSC or the like.

What say you? Is the Behringer a decent option?
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#2843023 - 03/20/17 07:45 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: big jilm]
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I have a pair. One died. Do not hold that against the product. It had a very hard life. Lived in the back of a trailer. Cases would have cost more than the speakers so .... I take the blame for its demise. Still got 5 good years out of it. I use the surviving cabinet at the Pop band's practice place.

It is an option. I think the Altos sound better as a keyboard monitor. The B112D sound extremely muddy. It is very rich at around 125hz and you cannot EQ that out of the speaker with the on board tone controls. They sound great for vocals but for DPs they are a muddy mess. If you want to go with Behringer I would try the 115 or 110 maybe they are voiced better for keys. A 115 might thump pretty good.
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#2843082 - 03/20/17 10:14 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: CEB]
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In between the price of the Behringer and the QSC, you can find models from EV. For piano (the most difficult instrument to get sounding right), I found the ZXa1 to be better than the QSC K8 or the Behringer B212A, and it weighs only 19 lbs. For less money (albeit higher travel weight), there's the ZLX-12P which I haven't heard, but has gotten some great reviews here.
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#2843207 - 03/20/17 04:39 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: AnotherScott]
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I've got a B212a which I bought new about 8-9 years ago. Still works great. Sounds surprisingly good for the money. I seem to recall paying about $250 for it new. Wish I had gotten another one. I also have a pair of B215D's that I use for mains (with B1200 subs). I haven't used the B112d. Is that a non-powered version? There are better choices out now than there were when I got these. At that time most of us played JBLs or Mackie's if my brain is still functioning correctly. I haven't used my B212s since I got my SSv3.

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#2843278 - 03/20/17 08:59 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: midinut]
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Thanks for all the replies! The reason I am looking at the Behringer is simply price. I am trying to stay around 200 bucks - which leaves me a couple of options, all for sale locally

Behringer b112d - 200
Quite used Roland KC 500 - 150

I've heard bad stuff about the Roland, so I am thinking Behringer. For 150 would you take the Roland over the Behringer?
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#2843281 - 03/20/17 09:12 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: big jilm]
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I'm a doofus. My Behringer speakers are B212Ds. So you might want to disregard what I wrote.

I still think Altos are a nice sounding option for the price.
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#2843288 - 03/20/17 09:43 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: CEB]
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>For 150 would you take the Roland over the Behringer?

No. Roland is terrible.

As for the altos, I need to check the speakers we have at the club. They are Bluetooth enabled and sound just ok to me. I don't think they have eq just a boost or flat and roll off. I'd rather use the Behringer for me.
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#2843289 - 03/20/17 09:46 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: aronnelson]
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I work regularly with a sound guy who has a bunch of those wireless Altos. They sound decent to me - of course, it helps the guy know how to create a good mix.
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#2843300 - 03/20/17 10:24 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: timwat]
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Id go to GC and try out the inexpensive powered speakers they have and see if anything sound OK to you?

The have a Harbinger Vari V2212 powered speaker with a 12"woofer. It's on sale for $199 (at least on the website). If it sounds good to you, that's probably a better option than anything you can buy used. But try first. You'll need a XLR to 1/4" adapter since it only has one 1/4" input. But even if you don't like you can return in 30 days and maybe have more money to get the EV?

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#2843322 - 03/21/17 12:13 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: timwat]
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Yes, for the ones I use, I plug right into it. It sounds ok, but I think the Behringer might sound in the same league - or close to it. I've played both and they were both ok. I do like the EV and QSC a lot more - but they cost more.
I also like Carvin powered speakers - played through the small and larger ones. They do the job!
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#2843336 - 03/21/17 04:27 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: aronnelson]
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Looking at the Harbinger, I think I would go with the Behringer first. 2 inputs instead of one, 1000 watts instead of 600. I wish I could afford something better, but it's not in the budget right now.

One more I may be able to swing - the Alto Trusonic TS212. It's a little higher, but I may have time to get the cash together before the gig. Just a few bucks more than the Behringer. Good choice?

The only other options I have are a few used keyboard amps on Craigslist - the Roland KC 500 I mentioned, and there is a Fender and a Peavey. I have been reading that guys hate keyboard amps and prefer a powered speaker, so I guess the Behringer or the Alto are going to win the day on this one.

I have to compete with a reasonably loud band, so volume is an issue.


Edited by big jilm (03/21/17 04:50 AM)
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#2843344 - 03/21/17 05:20 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: big jilm]
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I wish I could afford something better, but it's not in the budget right now.


There's an expression on the live sound forums.........."Buy once, cry once".

Consider quality used gear instead of cheap new gear.

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I have to compete with a reasonably loud band


I hate it when it becomes a competition. I like to play with my bandmates, not at them.

What's wrong with the K12 in your sig?

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#2843362 - 03/21/17 06:36 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: WesG]
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American made Carvin stuff has always been reliable. I think they're a great choice even for your main system. Try them and you can always send them back but I think you'll keep them.

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#2843379 - 03/21/17 07:17 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: WesG]
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Originally Posted By: WesG
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I wish I could afford something better, but it's not in the budget right now.


There's an expression on the live sound forums.........."Buy once, cry once".

Consider quality used gear instead of cheap new gear.

Quote:
I have to compete with a reasonably loud band


I hate it when it becomes a competition. I like to play with my bandmates, not at them.

What's wrong with the K12 in your sig?

Wes


The QSC is great - but as I stated in my original post, I can only use it when my band is playing in a place that already has a PA Set up, as the QSC serves as one of our mains when we use our own PA.
We run sound from the stage on those occasions, so we tend to only put vocals through the PA and match levels with our amps onstage - so I need a stage monitor (or keyboard amp) for my backline. This is where the Behringer or it's like would come into play.
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#2843382 - 03/21/17 07:22 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: Keysguy]
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Originally Posted By: Keysguy
American made Carvin stuff has always been reliable. I think they're a great choice even for your main system. Try them and you can always send them back but I think you'll keep them.


Thanks for the recommendation! The Carvin stuff looks nice - the 12" powered speaker is $319, and 400 watts. I am trying to keep the price low, so the Behringer is on my radar - though I am aware that the Carvin stuff might be better. The Behrenger is also quite a bit more wattage.


Edited by big jilm (03/21/17 07:23 AM)
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#2843394 - 03/21/17 08:03 AM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: big jilm]
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Wattage numbers are not what you necessarily need to look at. Sometimes numbers are big fibbers. Like your QSC is rated at 1000 watts. The reason being is it cheaper for QSC to use same 500 watt power amps for both drivers and a whole lot of unused watts on high freq. driver.

I look at Max SPL and speaker sensitivity numbers over wattage numbers.


Edited by CEB (03/21/17 08:04 AM)
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#2843490 - 03/21/17 02:28 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: CEB]
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I have a Carvin LM15A I would sell to you if you're interested. Local pickup and all that...

Here's a spec sheet PDF

Here's an old thread about them

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#2843497 - 03/21/17 02:51 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Could you stretch to a Mackie Thump? My band uses the 15s as tops, and they sound quite nice - light too. I've heard even better things about the 12s.

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#2843501 - 03/21/17 02:58 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: stoken6]
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The reason why the Carvin is good is that there is a 3 band EQ and 2 channels. There's a switch that will directly patch input 1 to the output and ignore channel 2. There's also a channel 3 that is RCA only I think. Oh and there's an instrument EQ switch for acoustic guitar etc...

The reason why it's not as good as an EV or QSC is that the tweeter IMO is not as good. Not as clear and defined - but it is pretty darn reliable. The 3 band EQ is OK, but not incredibly good but way better than a simple roll off or bass bump like the other speakers (not the EV).

I usually play out of EV and QSC for most gigs, but I have the Carvin and it has been a good speaker. When it breaks I will replace with the EV since it has digital EQ built in which I like.
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#2843518 - 03/21/17 04:17 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
I have a Carvin LM15A I would sell to you if you're interested. Local pickup and all that...

Here's a spec sheet PDF

Here's an old thread about them


I might be interested - is there a PM feature on this board?
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#2843556 - 03/21/17 08:42 PM Re: Anybody have any experience with the Behringer B112d? [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
I have a Carvin LM15A I would sell to you if you're interested. Local pickup and all that...

Here's a spec sheet PDF

Here's an old thread about them

Message sent.
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