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#2840602 - 03/09/17 11:33 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Winston Psmith]
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You're probably right Winston, It's probably just a homemade humidifier concept. Planet Waves and others make commercial humidity pack and sponge wetter's to go in guitar cases. Humidity does seem to play a role, so it's worth a try...I think the polish might be worth a try as well. Can't hurt to try some quickie ideas for little or no cost. I'm sure there is a ton of ideas like these on YouTube. It may depend on where you live and the time of year as to whether or not they at least seem to help. cool

ps. I wonder why Gibson would spray their guitars with a finish that results in so many complaints? and, if other companies have these same problems. I haven't heard any such complaints on Fender guitars yet... cool


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#2840747 - 03/10/17 07:50 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
ps. I wonder why Gibson would spray their guitars with a finish that results in so many complaints? and, if other companies have these same problems. I haven't heard any such complaints on Fender guitars yet... cool


I definitely ran into this, or something like it, with one MIJ Strat that I had. Running my fingers across the pickguard, I heard a weird 'fizzy' crackling sound. It didn't rise to the level of popping, but it was noticeable when I was playing solo; even weirder running through effects. The Guitar was already a few years old when I got it, and had shielding inside the pickguard, so IDK what the issue was? No grounding problems, never got a shock plugging in, and never figured out what the cause was. It wasn't a function of the finish, because it only happened when I touched the pickguard.
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#2840752 - 03/10/17 08:14 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Winston Psmith]
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@ Winston, My buddy bought a new cheaper Squire Strat I think it was MIK. Great little guitar for the price but when he had me try it I found a short in the 5way that would not be found unless you wiggled it a certain way. He took it to the tech we both use and he swapped out the switch and now it works great. When I bought my Taylor T3b the 3way would short intermittently. My Taylor tech could not duplicate the problem at the shop, so he couldn't change the switch under warranty. I told him to change it and charge me as I know it's bad. I contacted Taylor and they covered the cost of the switch and I just paid the labor of $20bucks. Sometimes even the techs can not solve or find the problem or duplicate the problem on command. The T3B works just fine now with the new switch. So, long story short [pun intended] if you have a switch problem you may not find a loose ground and when you touch the pickguard on a Fender 5way, it could be the switch making it buzz...or a pot cold solder joint or a loose jack or a...? LOL! The Gibson finish is a new one on me though... cool


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#2841019 - 03/11/17 10:40 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
You're probably right Winston, It's probably just a homemade humidifier concept. Planet Waves and others make commercial humidity pack and sponge wetter's to go in guitar cases. Humidity does seem to play a role, so it's worth a try...I think the polish might be worth a try as well. Can't hurt to try some quickie ideas for little or no cost. I'm sure there is a ton of ideas like these on YouTube. It may depend on where you live and the time of year as to whether or not they at least seem to help. cool

ps. I wonder why Gibson would spray their guitars with a finish that results in so many complaints? and, if other companies have these same problems. I haven't heard any such complaints on Fender guitars yet... cool

Larry, I have also gone the humidifying route and have place a moist sponge in the case with the Les Paul. I'll see if that makes any difference in a few days or so. I did get some unscented dryer sheets and gently rubbed down the surface of the guitar. It seemed to help but did not get rid of it entirely.
Here is the response from the guitar tech:
This is Adam and I'm writing about your inquiry on the Les Paul nitro static.
This is absolutely what's going on! I've found the best way is to wipe down the entirety of the guitar with a fresh dryer sheet. That typically helps kill it pretty quickly. I've also found that taking an additional fresh dryer sheet and inserting it into the control cavity helps prevent that for a longer period of time. Doing both usually keeps this at bay for about 30 days, then you'll want to re-apply.
Fortunately you'll really only have to worry about this for a few months until the weather gets a bit more humid; and that thwarts static's ability to travel so easily. I had an SG that did the same thing a few years back (that year we had the really bad winter '14 I believe). I had to re-apply every three weeks or so, but it calmed down around mid-april.
Please let me know if you have any questions for me, Robert!
Adam


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#2841035 - 03/11/17 12:09 PM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: bbqbob]
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Thanks for the update BBQBob...keep us posted as this is interesting stuff! thu
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#2842938 - 03/19/17 08:22 PM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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OK, here is an update:
As mentioned in my last post I have tried the humidifying solution. I placed 2 slightly damp sponges in the case, one up near the headstock in a soap dish and wrapped in a soft cloth. The other smaller sponge was place near the body in a small plastic case and wrapped in a soft cloth. I didn't see any change after a few days but I didn't have a chance to play my LP for the past 4 days and tonight I took it out and played it. The good news is the static popping is almost gone. I couldn't get it to happen at all when I ran my hands across the back of the neck or over the plate cover screws on the back of the body. I did get just a little as I first ran my hand up the front of the neck. I am cautiously optimistic that the humidifying seems to help but I am still experimenting.
I am cautious because I did rub it down with dryer sheets several days ago and don't know if there's a chance part of it is leftover residual effect from that. I also wasn't able to play it real loud either so that will be the next test.

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#2842942 - 03/19/17 08:45 PM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: bbqbob]
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Originally Posted By: bbqbob
OK, here is an update:
As mentioned in my last post I have tried the humidifying solution. I placed 2 slightly damp sponges in the case, one up near the headstock in a soap dish and wrapped in a soft cloth. The other smaller sponge was place near the body in a small plastic case and wrapped in a soft cloth. I didn't see any change after a few days but I didn't have a chance to play my LP for the past 4 days and tonight I took it out and played it. The good news is the static popping is almost gone. I couldn't get it to happen at all when I ran my hands across the back of the neck or over the plate cover screws on the back of the body. I did get just a little as I first ran my hand up the front of the neck. I am cautiously optimistic that the humidifying seems to help but I am still experimenting.
I am cautious because I did rub it down with dryer sheets several days ago and don't know if there's a chance part of it is leftover residual effect from that. I also wasn't able to play it real loud either so that will be the next test.


Glad to hear it. cool
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#2842949 - 03/19/17 10:28 PM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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That's great news BBQ! If the dryer sheets and the inside the case sponges work in combo, that's still a good thing! thu
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#2870939 - 08/04/17 03:15 PM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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Another update. It is the middle of summer up here with much higher humidity (currently in the mid 60s) than when I bought the Les Paul. The static pops are just about non existent. Without the use of dryer sheets or humidifiers, I get absolutely nothing when I run my hands up and down the neck, strings and other parts of the body surface. I sometimes hear faint pops (but not every time I play it) when I touch the screws on the rear access plates.
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#2871063 - 08/05/17 07:57 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
I'm still going to suspect that output jack area...I would open it up and have a look-see for a wire crossed, loose jack, or a ground problem. Check the pots and switches for a loose wire or connection problem too. Good luck with it and don't hesitate to have a tech look at it... cool


Hey, I bought my LP Classic last month and guess what? It had an output jack problem making a little noise and the cord just fell out of the jack on it's own when I plugged it in LOL! I pulled the jack out and bent the plate so that the end tip would clear the plate correctly and stay plugged in. No more popping noises and the guitar works very well and is quiet now. I'm lucky, as I don't need the problems with the finish making noise! I'm glad you got her working and it's probably just a humidity issue. Thanks for the update! thu
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#2921352 - 04/13/18 11:03 PM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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Another update (and probably last) on the static electricity problem...It has been a year since my purchase and this winter the problem seems to have totally gone away! I guess the fresh nitrocellulose finish just had to age properly. Another argument in favor of vintage guitars I guess.

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#2921409 - 04/14/18 08:58 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: bbqbob]
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Thanks for the update! I detected a little static on my LP when rubbing my hand up and down the neck and thought of your Post BBQ! It's hard to believe it was a year ago already! The static was very slight but seems to have disappeared too! thu
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#2921422 - 04/14/18 10:53 AM Re: Les Paul electrical popping sound. What's happening? [Re: Larryz]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
Thanks for the update! I detected a little static on my LP when rubbing my hand up and down the neck and thought of your Post BBQ! It's hard to believe it was a year ago already! The static was very slight but seems to have disappeared too! thu

That's great Larry! Things do work out!

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