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#2840070 - 03/06/17 04:38 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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FOUND IT !

Hendrix at Monterey 1967
Wild Thang
watch the whole thing
or tune in for the most relevant sections & yhe, uh, full experience
(dig the dolly's face at 8:33 ! laugh )

1:~2:20 / 6:00~ conclusion.
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https://vimeo.com/149466401

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#2840096 - 03/06/17 06:13 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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FOUND IT !

Hendrix at Monterey 1967
Wild Thang
watch the whole thing
or tune in for the most relevant sections & yhe, uh, full experience
(dig the dolly's face at 8:33 ! laugh )
1:~2:20 / 6:00~ conclusion.
rawk

https://vimeo.com/149466401

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#2840474 - 03/08/17 05:18 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Just did a spot chk on our little collection here.
Some very interesting sounds but other than the ones that are based on tremendous sustain (are those feedback ?) it's hard to glean how it goes from sonic event to craft.

That's one thing I was hoping to uncover by searching out those clips of JH & Sharrock ( I tried to find some Derek Bailey but didn't get a good one yet), where we could actually watch what was being done as THE POWER manifested ITSELF.

Feedback is, essentially, a force surging beyond control or verging on doing so.
Mayhaps the electronic equivalent to what a windstorm is to sound in ordinary air.

While that's a mix of variables that's prolly beyond specific reproduction (amp & gtr settings, all that stuff) I wonder if there's some potential for sciencifactioning it (as Elvis might say*)...sorta like a wind tunnel is a test ground for the science of air movement.

To be honest I never really experimented much (see earlier Ted Nugent studio tip), although a high school band-mate would regularly stand his semi-hollow Rick on it's ahead atop his amp when he got tired of playing John Fogerty tunes....

Any body (or as George Clinton puts it "airbody") got any ideas or up-yer-sleeve trix on practical controls ?

Issat something we could collect here ?
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#2842006 - 03/15/17 03:55 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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I liked this; hopefully, you will, too: https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/ri...campaign=buffer

Always nice to see Junior Barnard getting some props. smile
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#2844679 - 03/26/17 11:25 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Still lookin' / lurkin' 'round "noisey" but in the meantime (& time can be so mean) here's some more pop feedback.
Reminded of this while reading abt Public Enemy's recording history yesterday.

Dig Sonic Youth's highly studio-sculpted feedback attempt at a pop single.
That's Chuck D interjecting bits there between Kim Gordon's vox.
"Weird up !"

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#2846570 - 04/03/17 04:33 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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FF to 4:41 mark:

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#2847205 - 04/05/17 02:56 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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I like how that one sustains & blooms up into higher octave, then seems to get slightly bent.
It kinda reminded me of being in the room with Tibetan monks when their multiphonic chanting hits the right spot & starts swimming around like whale song.
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#2857070 - 05/24/17 03:59 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Not to get all zombie threadish but here seemed the best place to hang this

FZappa runs the voodoo down in an extended solo.
Great views of his hands.

The entire tracks cool but as for feedback catch the moment abt 2:50~2:55 & the final chorus starting at abt 4:00 where he sustains a single tweaked note for the loooooooooongest time.

The chorus starting at 3:00 seems to be a tribute to JHendrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9DqykUsqRY
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#2857348 - 05/25/17 07:18 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Originally Posted By: d
Not to get all zombie threadish but here seemed the best place to hang this

FZappa runs the voodoo down in an extended solo.
Great views of his hands.

The entire tracks cool but as for feedback catch the moment abt 2:50~2:55 & the final chorus starting at abt 4:00 where he sustains a single tweaked note for the loooooooooongest time.

The chorus starting at 3:00 seems to be a tribute to JHendrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9DqykUsqRY


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#2859568 - 06/06/17 09:52 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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& then there's this
kinda corny but also kinda beautiful

Feedback relevance = many bits throughout
but don't miss the 2 sections starting at 6:15~7:05
& 7:05~7:50

https://www.youtube.com/watchv=68AoHJd84aQ
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#2859594 - 06/06/17 12:35 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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& then there's this
kinda corny but also kinda beautiful

Feedback relevance = many bits throughout
but don't miss the 2 sections starting at 6:15~7:05
& 7:05~7:50

https://www.youtube.com/watchv=68AoHJd84aQ


Not all that corny (but I know what you mean), and very good!

Musical, controlled feedback (and even uncontrolled or out of control!) with an electric guitar can be such an expressive device and a very emotional conduit!


I see (and hear) that he's deploying a Fernandes Sustainer there (a magnetic transducer, mounted in the neck-pickup location, that drives the strings). Of course, he's also doing some masterful playing all-around, including all of the little touches and nuances that coax just the harmonic-overtones and/or octaves that he wants to conjure out of the notes with feedback- the gizmos don't just automatically do all that!

I can get nearly identical results from my Sustainiac Model C, which is a vibrating-transducer that clamps onto the headstock and induces feedback by sending vibrations through the neck.

This kinda stuff is fun and fantastic! It really adds to the experiences of both playing and listening! love rawk
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#2859640 - 06/06/17 03:44 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Besides the basic musical theme, I was particularly struck by his simultaneous audio & physical interpretation of what seems to be a bird landing & flying off (last 2 mins).
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#2859708 - 06/06/17 09:00 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Besides the basic musical theme, I was particularly struck by his simultaneous audio & physical interpretation of what seems to be a bird landing & flying off (last 2 mins).


Yeah... That's pretty cool, huh? His is a very deft, expressive touch and musicality.
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#2881113 - 09/23/17 08:08 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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#2881529 - 09/25/17 04:00 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Link took me to a mag spreadsheet but what page(s) am I looking for, Hugo ?

Oh, just found the article !

[Back aft I read it in next several daze.................. / note how elipsis stands in fer infinite sustain ? laugh ]
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Grumble !
It's one of those sites ya can't cut/paste from [ evil ], which I guess is why ya didn't do that for us in the 1st place ....
Hate having to sit here reading tiny type when I could be doon that elsewhen !

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#2881964 - 09/27/17 05:38 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Link took me to a mag spreadsheet but what page(s) am I looking for, Hugo ?

Oh, just found the article !

[Back aft I read it in next several daze.................. / note how elipsis stands in fer infinite sustain ? laugh ]
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Grumble !
It's one of those sites ya can't cut/paste from [ evil ], which I guess is why ya didn't do that for us in the 1st place ....
Hate having to sit here reading tiny type when I could be doon that elsewhen !



that site is a pain in the azz sometimes.
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#2882024 - 09/28/17 04:44 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Originally Posted By: hurricane hugo [/quote
that site is a pain in the azz sometimes.


Must be. I clicked on the link and wound up looking at a blank white screen.
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#2886204 - 10/20/17 02:31 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: whitefang]
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When feedback is part of the song's hook:



40 years gone...RIP, Steve.
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#2886336 - 10/21/17 09:23 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Good reminder !
Those cats did so much that was better than that "Free Bird" noise.

BTW & FWIW grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyo3hdy7dkY


Did I bring this one up already ?
end of solo [1:00~1:40]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drm48bOirLw
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#2886403 - 10/21/17 07:38 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Yeah, I went there. razz
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#2886667 - 10/23/17 01:05 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Hey, never noticed that thing at the end before (!)---but it's a solid pop track.
Wish there was a version by P!NK instead
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#2887774 - 10/30/17 12:50 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Here's one w/ multiple iterations
SRV , as they say, pulls out all the stops (& all the stomps, too) shocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYEEovuhsgY
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#2887775 - 10/30/17 12:56 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Originally Posted By: hurricane hugo
When feedback is part of the song's hook:


Like this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBiGdV-oJI
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#2887799 - 10/30/17 02:40 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Here's that Type O Negative I promised way back in post 1:

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#2887919 - 10/31/17 01:12 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Nice evil-pop track---but not as evil as that Clarkson thing ! laugh
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#2888020 - 11/01/17 05:39 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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Check out the singing resophonic feedback throughout this beautiful song:

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#2888054 - 11/01/17 07:43 AM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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That's v. cool, COS !
Beautiful, in fact.
The harmonic drift in the final 20~30 secs = puff
Salute to producer Craig Street !!
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Has anyone ever tracked some vox w/ feedback ?
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#2891270 - 11/19/17 02:54 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: d]
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#2894777 - 12/08/17 08:23 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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This song almost becomes a feedback symphony during its 2nd half:



In the 21 years since this album (the band's second) was released, this band's made some great albums, but they never tried to make another album like this again.
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#2895010 - 12/10/17 02:40 PM Re: Feedback appreciation [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Really nice double-level feel there att the beginning w/ the 12/8 perc under the slo-mo foreground.
The controlled burn that starts at 2:40 is tremendous.
An extremely well constructed track !

I don't think I've ever even heard of this band---thanks for bringing them up, HH !
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