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#2836509 - 02/17/17 06:56 PM Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics
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Your thoughts on both. I'm in the market for one or the other. I'm very happy with my top 2 solid bodies, an upgraded American Strat and a Les Paul style Godin Icon Type 2 Classic (chambered). I play mainly Blues based Rock and some Rock/Jazz fusion. I don't want to spend more than a grand.


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#2836514 - 02/17/17 07:19 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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#2836515 - 02/17/17 07:20 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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You'll PROBABLY find a semi-hollow with center block more versatile for your specific needs then.

Gretsch has some new models, including one with Super HiLo pickups that are essentially humbucker versions of the old 50's single-coils. They even have a model with three pickups.

In terms of bang-for-buck, I'd probably recommend those over Epiphone in your price range, but also check out Eastman's recent forays into this territory as well as D'angelico.

I forget whether Ibanez makes some good center block semi-hollow offerings or not. They full hollow bodies are awesome; I have the PM-2 (Pat Metheny) as well as D'angelico's EXL-1.

I'm looking into semi-hollows myself at the moment. My jazz guitarist has a rare Gretsch model with standard block inlays vs. side-inlays and a sharp vs. curved body horn. Very versatile, great for fusion and blues.

I tried the three-pickup model at GC today and didn't like the neck as it was too flat/modern for my tastes. But I think some of the slightly more expensive models (MIJ or even MIK) that are just barely over $1K, have more traditional chunkier necks.

If I hadn't had such a week from hell (multiple deaths to deal with, atop work politics and overtime etc.), I'm sure I'd recall more options than what I've listed so far. If more of them come back to me, I;; re-post.

At a good price used, Dusenberg can be a killer option, but you'd probably never see one for under $1400 to $1500.

EDIT: Hugo's post was shorter so he finished his before I did. :-) It reminded me that I meant to say the Casino style semi-hollows are your best bet; the ones I listed are Casino knock-offs.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (02/17/17 07:21 PM)
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#2836523 - 02/17/17 08:15 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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Here's a few:

Club King

Manta Ray

Rocco

Tremar Super Swede Tremar

LGX

ASAT

Legacy

SH65

SE Custom 22

Mira

E-SA

DC

And there are also exemplars of those same axes on Reverb.com.


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#2836525 - 02/17/17 08:16 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Hugo's post was shorter so he finished his before I did. :-) It reminded me that I meant to say the Casino style semi-hollows are your best bet; the ones I listed are Casino knock-offs.


Small correction: the Casino is fully hollow. The semi-hollow Epiphone is the Sheraton, as well as the Riviera, & the down market Dot 335. Also Casinos sport a air of P90s, vs the humbuckers on the others.
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#2836557 - 02/17/17 11:54 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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#2836559 - 02/18/17 01:43 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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RE Mark`s comment on a Dusenberg-if you find one near your price range, grab it and don`t let go.
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#2836618 - 02/18/17 08:00 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: skipclone 1]
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I really like my hollow body Epiphone ES-175. Only one problem and that is the input jack likes to come loose. I bought a new tool that has solved that problem and keep it in the case LOL! I'm sure the US made Gibsons 175's do not have that problem. I really like the 57 USA Gibson humbuckers and the upgraded 500k pots on the Epi. It sounds and plays as good as a $4,000 Gibson and costs $1,000. One of these days I'm thinking about getting the Gibson 175, just for playing at home. I really don't play loud so I have no problem with feed back. Like playing an acoustic, you just have to avoid turning around and facing the speakers at higher volumes...

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#2836670 - 02/18/17 02:25 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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You really need both if you're going to play a variety of music. Hollow Bodies (Gibson ES for example) are great for blues and jazz. Solid bodies (I personally like the Telecaster) are great for Rock and Roll and Country. Actually, if you're going to really diversify, you need four guitars at least - Single Coil and Humbucker (Or split coil humbucker)...

Just voicing my opinion which along with a couple of bucks will get you a cup of bad coffee...

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#2836674 - 02/18/17 03:04 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: DocPate]
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Actually Fret-King has a KILLER semihollows- the discontinued Gordon Giltrap Elise.

Doublecut body, neck P90, bridge HB, and a piezo system...supposedly fully blendable.

The other Elise models kick ass, too.
Elise


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#2836679 - 02/18/17 04:01 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: DocPate]
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Originally Posted By: DocPate
Y Hollow Bodies (Gibson ES for example) are great for blues and jazz.


Not all Gibson ES models are hollow. The ES335, for example, is semi-hollow.
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#2836726 - 02/18/17 08:45 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I don't know. For a $1000 you can get a nice solid body guitar and if you don't like something about it everything is an easy change.

Semis and Hollow are a pain to upgrade and mod. I play a lot of low dollar solids but I would be hesitant to go less than 2 grand on a hollow or semi-hollow. That said the older Korean Epi Sheraton II were not bad. I would still want to change the pickups which is a pain if you want to do it right which requires fishing line or surgical tubing to guide the wiring harness back in place.

Just be more critical when shopping for a box guitar. Only buy one with electronics you can live with for the life of the guitar. If you hire a tech to do your work they will charge more also to swap electronics unless they do a hack job and do things like splicing pickup leads.

In the 80s I played a ES175 into a 65 Twin in in a 50s 60s Rock N Roll Review show. Feedback isn't problem if you know what you are doing. A EQ pedal can make things easier. That resonance that makes the guitar want to roar sometimes help give that classic rock n roll tone. Ala Bill Haley, Detriot Wheels , etc.... I played ES-335s most my life. They are more forgiving. Very few people played louder than Freddie King.


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#2836732 - 02/18/17 09:25 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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Oh yeah, I always get confused between the Sheraton and the Casino, but had already logged off when I realized my mistake. Sorry for the confusion. Both are (were) great guitars. I don't like the current versions though; the pickups seem inferior and the neck feel is too modern for me.

I tried out some semi-hollows and thin-body hollows (no center block) at GC yesterday, as both the Emeryville and Concord locations had quite a few models in stock -- I think they have come back in popularity of late.

I didn't plug in any of them, due to time constraints, but I found D'angelico's and Eastman's thin body designs to feel more like how I remember vintage Epiphones being back in the day.
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#2836752 - 02/19/17 05:42 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
I didn't plug in any of them, due to time constraints, but I found D'angelico's and Eastman's thin body designs to feel more like how I remember vintage Epiphones being back in the day.


I was curious about the new D'Angelico's, and looked up the woods on the new models. They're made from yet another tropical wood that had mostly been used in furniture until recently. Not sure what it has to offer as a tonewood? I guess decent mahogany is getting harder to find, or afford.

I've said it many times before, but my MIK Epi Dot is one of the nicest Guitars I've ever played. You'd expect a neck this smooth on a $1000+ Guitar, but on a $300 import? The pickups on mine are just fine, and with a set of flat-wounds, it's a joy to play.

I haven't tried any of the Chinese-made Dots, so I can't speak to their feel or build quality, but I hear consistently good reviews of Epiphone's Hollow and Semihollow Guitars. YEMV, as always . . .
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#2836758 - 02/19/17 06:22 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Winston Psmith]
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There are several good options in this category, even at just under a grand. I would surely look at the Reverend Manta Ray. You can usually pick up an excellent condition used one for about $750. Perhaps cheaper. I love my Washburn Semi-hollow. I got it dirt cheap and it required a bit of a set up. But for less than 4 bills invested so far, I can also upgrade the electronics and pickups to exactly what I want for well less than a grand.

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#2836760 - 02/19/17 06:28 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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+1 on the Fret Kings. The Elise is stellar to play. Some people love the Wilkinson pickups. I do not have an opinion on them.

I am fairly certain that Reverend's, Fret Kings and PureSalem are all made in the same Korean factory. Dealers I know seem to believe this as well. Not a bad choice from any of these makers.

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#2836770 - 02/19/17 07:10 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: ajm558]
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Just for conversation's sake- I might be able to score a great deal on a 'fixer-upper' '70s Ibanez George Benson hollow-bodied, solid-topped sig-model that someone I know has; I'm thinkin' that, once restored, I'll really like it...

And I've also been sorely tempted to order an Epiphone Riviera Custom P93 (with three P-90's)...
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#2836779 - 02/19/17 08:15 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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I absolutely love my '97 Epi Sheraton II on which I upgraded all the electronics (pickups,pots,caps). On Caevan's recommendation I bought a pair of Stew-Mac Parson Street PAFs.

I own three hollow-bodies (Peerless Monarch 16, Ibanez AF125 Custom, Heritage H575 Custom) and the predominant opinion that you should opt for a semi-hollow rather than hollow body design is correct.

I would recommend that you save up another $500. you could buy a $1000 semi-hollow (Epi, Ibanez, Peerless) and have enough left over to upgrade the electronics, which would transform a mediocre instrument into a thing of beauty. I also think you could get an Eastman semi-hollow for under $1500.

Finally, the Comins GCS-1 is receiving rave reviews on the Jazz Guitar Forum. $1500 brand new with custom wound Kent Armstrong pickups.

http://rvrb.io/gcs-1-v2i

I believe that it would be beneficial if you spent the extra $500 and got something worth owning, either in the initial purchase or via aftermarket upgrades.

Good Luck in your search. Let me know if I can help.

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#2836780 - 02/19/17 08:19 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: skipclone 1]
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RE Mark`s comment on a Dusenberg-if you find one near your price range, grab it and don`t let go.


+1. A Dusenberg semi-hollow for $1000-1400 is going to be difficult to find. They're around $3500 new.
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#2836784 - 02/19/17 08:44 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Ain't it fun that we have so many choices nowadays when it comes to guitars? For acoustic I play a Taylor 310ce mostly with a Zager as my backup. For electrics I first purchased a Highway1 Tele and then an American Srat. In the past few years I started getting GAS for hollow body and semi-hollow body electrics. Of course I first gravitates towards the Gibsons but their prices can be scary.
As it turned out I stumbled upon the single PU Ibanez Artcore AFJ81 a few years ago. I ending up finding a used one in like new condition in a shop locally for $399 with the new retail price being $600 if I recall correctly. That ended up filling my need for a hollow body jazz box. It plays and sounds great and others that have played it have told me that if I ever want to sell it, they would buy it from me. They don't make that model anymore but I think Ibanez has a replacement in their line.
I then moved on to getting a semi hollow and looked at the ES-335 type guitars. I got lots of nice feedback from members on this forum and after playing some and shopping around I ended up buying a new Gibson ES-339 Studio for $1599. I'm happy with that purchase also.


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#2836796 - 02/19/17 09:47 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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#ATTENTION!!!


Guitars-n-Jazz in Summit,NJ is currently having a huge sale.

e.g. Peerless Hardtail (ES 335 clone) is on sale for $949. An incredible value. There are also Eastman semi-hollows on sale for around $1200.

Peerless and Eastman are both very well crafted instruments. Highly recommended.
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#2836804 - 02/19/17 10:46 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Thanks to all for the great responses. I'm definitely leaning towards a semi-hollow. I'm dragging my feet on this a bit as there are many different ways to go. A new Guitar Center will be opening in my area this fall so I'll wait until then to try some out. I expected some of you to say that I'd have to spend considerably more than a grand, whether used or new. I've read and heard some people say that 2 grand is a more reasonable figure.

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#2836815 - 02/19/17 11:17 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/e...chTerm=epiphone guitars#productDetail <---if you're still looking for a Les Paul type guitar Delta, check out this Epi...a buddy bought one and for the price it can really add to the arsenal. He had to buy a case for $100 and have the frets dressed and set up for $80. For a total of $580. He's very happy with it so far. I'll get to try it out next week! cool


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#2836825 - 02/19/17 12:21 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Originally Posted By: Fred_C
#ATTENTION!!!


Guitars-n-Jazz in Summit,NJ is currently having a huge sale.

e.g. Peerless Hardtail (ES 335 clone) is on sale for $949. An incredible value. There are also Eastman semi-hollows on sale for around $1200.

Peerless and Eastman are both very well crafted instruments. Highly recommended.


Those look like they'd be EXCELLENT guitars for you, Delta; that Peerless Hardtail for $949 looks like a FANTASTIC deal!
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#2836826 - 02/19/17 12:22 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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I'm certain you'll find the semi-hollow of your dreams from the extensive selection available at your local Guitar Center.

LOL!
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#2836838 - 02/19/17 01:32 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Oh yeah, I forgot that Peerless makes thin bodies as well; I'm more familiar with their excellent full bodied hollows, which are a bit like Ibanez's.
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#2836839 - 02/19/17 01:36 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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The really good Epi's were the MIJ series from a few years back, which now costs thousands of dollars each on eBay as the reputation got out that these were a steal. In fact, that's apparently why Gibson canceled the series, as they felt it was undercutting L5 and 175 sales.

A co-worker lucked out and found one of them while they were being liquidated. It is a thing of beauty, and better quality than almost anything under $3000 or so. But you're unlikely to find one; especially at an affordable price. It's a shame.
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#2836858 - 02/19/17 03:08 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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I'm certain you'll find the semi-hollow of your dreams from the extensive selection available at your local Guitar Center.

LOL!


I was kind of joking there. I really can't stand Guitar Center. The search continues!

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#2836860 - 02/19/17 03:17 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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Originally Posted By: Fred_C
I'm certain you'll find the semi-hollow of your dreams from the extensive selection available at your local Guitar Center.

LOL!


I was kind of joking there. I really can't stand Guitar Center. The search continues!


laugh +1.

Dude, you really should at least put a call in to Lou Del Rosso at Guitars-n-Jazz. Lou typically has around 400 (!) electric Archtops in stock. He is very knowledgeable and has even designed instruments. My Peerless Monarch 16 was designed by Lou and let me tell you, it's one hell of a guitar for $1400! In addition to Peerless, he also has an extensive inventory of Eastmans. Lou is also highly respected and trusted on the Jazz Guitar Forum.




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#2836861 - 02/19/17 03:31 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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The really good Epi's were the MIJ series from a few years back, which now costs thousands of dollars each on eBay as the reputation got out that these were a steal. In fact, that's apparently why Gibson canceled the series, as they felt it was undercutting L5 and 175 sales.

A co-worker lucked out and found one of them while they were being liquidated. It is a thing of beauty, and better quality than almost anything under $3000 or so. But you're unlikely to find one; especially at an affordable price. It's a shame.


Mark, there's one on Reverb for $2100. Here's a link:\

https://reverb.com/item/4204969-epiphone-elite-elitist-broadway-l5-ces-2003-sunburst
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#2836862 - 02/19/17 03:39 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Oh yeah, I forgot that Peerless makes thin bodies as well; I'm more familiar with their excellent full bodied hollows, which are a bit like Ibanez's.


Mark,

Yeah, IMO, Peerless and Eastman make some very fine instruments at reasonable prices. I'm kinda' drooling over that Peerless Hardtail. In addition, Lou Del Rosso has had designs made for him by Eastman including two semi-hollow models for $2000. Man-oh-man, I'd like one of them too! But, I'm finished buying guitars. My collection is complete.

Afterthought:

I've heard very good things about their thin line hollowbody the Sunset as well


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#2837120 - 02/20/17 07:03 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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The Ibanez AM 153 intrigues me. In my price range. Thoughts?

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#2837133 - 02/20/17 07:58 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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Originally Posted By: Delta
The Ibanez AM 153 intrigues me. In my price range. Thoughts?


There is no doubt that the Ibanez Artcore/Artstar line represents an excellent value. I own an AF-125 Custom and it is a fine example of what a good $1000 archtop should be. Gorgeous, plays great (thanks to an expert setup by my guitar tech), sounds very good. I am planning on swapping out the "Super 58 Customs" with some better pickups in the future. It's not that the Ibanez pickups are bad, they're just "meh".

I guess the bottom line here is that Ibanez makes a nice $1000 guitar and you'll probably be very happy with it. Personally, I would prefer a Peerless or for a little more money, an Eastman, but that's just personal preference.
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#2837158 - 02/20/17 10:06 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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Originally Posted By: Delta
The Ibanez AM 153 intrigues me. In my price range. Thoughts?


I own an AS153, which appears to be the same in every respect except made with maple top & sides instead of bubinga used for the AM153. It's a very well made guitar, with excellent detailing, clean fret ends, comfortable all up & down the neck. It's beautiful. Looks & feels very luxurious.
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#2837318 - 02/21/17 11:53 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I love my semi-hollows (Gibson ES 335, PRS SE Semihollow, Hamer Duotone) and my one full hollowbody (Guild Starfire I). Feedback isn't too much of an issue with any of them, but the Guild being a thinline probably helps it some in that regard.

Some of the Epiphones are wonderful, but I would recommend staying away from the Wildcat series. I wanted to like them, especially when GC had a really great sale on them, but they were just dead, both in feel and sound, to me. Tried a few, and all were lifeless.
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#2837465 - 02/22/17 03:37 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Danzilla]
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I had reason to work on an Epiphone Elite 335 a few years agao and was deeply impressed with fit & finish - playability was ace and the tones excellent. I'm not surprised they were cut because they were undercutting the Gibsons.

Worth a try if you can lay hands on one. You can identify them by their more docorative headstock - a lot more like the original pre-Gibson model.

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#2837602 - 02/22/17 12:50 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: The Geoff]
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I had reason to work on an Epiphone Elite 335 a few years agao and was deeply impressed with fit & finish - playability was ace and the tones excellent. I'm not surprised they were cut because they were undercutting the Gibsons.
Worth a try if you can lay hands on one. You can identify them by their more docorative headstock - a lot more like the original pre-Gibson model.
G.


The Epiphone Elites I've seen for sale used have rivaled Gibsons in price. The hollow body archtop jazz Elites go for around $2000, while the regular Epiphones are in the $500-$600 range.
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#2837875 - 02/23/17 02:40 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I've seen the odd one over here for less than that range. Maybe they don't get the difference!

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#2838078 - 02/25/17 12:03 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: The Geoff]
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Yeah, that Epi B'way is the one my co-worker snagged a few years back, but not in burst (he doesn't like burst, and I've kind of grown away from that finish myself even though for years it was the ONLY finish I knew of on hollows and semi-hollows).

Looks like it sold during a hell week at work where I didn't check email or the internet until tonight after a run of 14-16 hour days. Oh well.
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#2838107 - 02/25/17 07:19 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETD2VNNH <---I'm kind of getting gas over this new $900 EPI Master Built Archtop with hidden electronics... drool


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#2838126 - 02/25/17 09:42 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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The Godin archtop family has some nice axes in it:
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#2838154 - 02/25/17 12:11 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Dannyalcatraz]
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Godin is a great company; I owned several of their unique instruments over the years (Glissintar -- a fretless oud-like guitar; A4 Fretless Acoustibass; Synth Access MIDI Guitar w/ nylon strings, etc.).

Their arch-tops, however, don't appeal to me personally as they sound (to my ears) more like a flat-top acoustic maple jumbo Gibson, which I already own. :-) I don't know why that is; maybe it's just their choice of PUPS?
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#2838155 - 02/25/17 12:12 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Whoah, that new Epi model looks delicious! Didn't know about that one -- is it from this year's Winter NAMM show?
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#2838192 - 02/25/17 05:31 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Yeah, the Epi Masterbilts are from the Nam show...I really like the way they use an acoustic pickup as opposed to a magnetic pickup. It gives you the original 30's archtop sound at a volume that can keep up with the rest of the band. It has a volume and tone control inside the lower F-hole. Nothing showing on the face of the guitar which keeps the acoustic look going. The 12 gauge strings are a little thick to my liking so if I do buy one, I will probably run 11's. Even though I'm really trying not to buy anymore guitars, I think I might just pull the trigger on this new concept guitar. It is made in Indonesia which I'm hoping will not be a problem as far as quality. But, from the reviews and pictures, it looks like Epi did not skimp on this model. And, I need at least one maple acoustic and with a solid sitka spruce top, it's going to be very hard to resist LOL! cool

ps. did I mention that ornate headstock, 30's style tuners, diamond fret marker inlays and that ebony fret board? drool


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#2838202 - 02/25/17 07:48 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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I listened to the sound clip, and it really sounds authentic.

The woman who plays the main guitar in a local gypsy jazz band uses some off-brand I've never heard of, that looks VERY similar to this model, and uses an acoustic pickup. It sounds almost identical.

GC has a gazillion semi-hollows and full hollow-bodies today. They do indeed seem to be making a resurgence. And such variety too! That's a big change from the last time I saw many hollows in a store.
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#2838230 - 02/26/17 04:36 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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The 12 gauge strings are a little thick to my liking so if I do buy one, I will probably run 11's. Even though I'm really trying not to buy anymore guitars, I think I might just pull the trigger on this new concept guitar. It is made in Indonesia which I'm hoping will not be a problem as far as quality. But, from the reviews and pictures, it looks like Epi did not skimp on this model. cool

ps. did I mention that ornate headstock, 30's style tuners, diamond fret marker inlays and that ebony fret board? drool


Brother Larry,

As usual, I agree completely with your post. We really are "brothers from different mothers".

I also have difficultly playing a 12 set (I feel very guilty about this, because I know I should be playing 12's to get that Jazz(y) tone. I'm playing an 11-48 set pure nickel on my hollow bodies and an 11-49 set with a wound third on my semi-hollow Sheraton.

With regard to build quality, it would appear to me that Epiphone is taking more pride in the quality of their guitars than Gibson. I really would not consider buying a new Gibson given their lack of attention to Quality Control/Quality Assurance. I would certainly consider an Epiphone. That looks gorgeous!

Like you, I am focused on not buying anymore guitars. Although I often think about a Heritage H555 semi-hollow or a Peerless Hardtail (their ES-335 clone) or a Peerless Imperial (17" L-5 clone). I do not currently own a 17" hollow body. Mine are all 16. That Masterbuilt looks gorgeous. Like you, I'm drooling.

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#2838275 - 02/26/17 11:43 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Thanks for the insight Brother Fred and thanks to Mark too! The only thing worrying me is comments on the width of the neck. Pretty wide but friendly...but the bigger model is the one that grabs me. I may order one from MF as they have the best return policy if I find it just won't fit me. My Taylor necks (especially on the Nylons) are pretty wide and I'm very used to them. The nut width on the Epi is 1.69 (43m) so I think it's narrower at the nut than my Taylor 416 which is 1.75 (44.5m)...anyway, I'll keep you guys posted! Thanks again... thu


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#2838294 - 02/26/17 01:31 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Originally Posted By: Larryz
The 12 gauge strings are a little thick to my liking so if I do buy one, I will probably run 11's. Even though I'm really trying not to buy anymore guitars, I think I might just pull the trigger on this new concept guitar. It is made in Indonesia which I'm hoping will not be a problem as far as quality. But, from the reviews and pictures, it looks like Epi did not skimp on this model. cool

ps. did I mention that ornate headstock, 30's style tuners, diamond fret marker inlays and that ebony fret board? drool


Brother Larry,

As usual, I agree completely with your post. We really are "brothers from different mothers".

I also have difficultly playing a 12 set (I feel very guilty about this, because I know I should be playing 12's to get that Jazz(y) tone. I'm playing an 11-48 set pure nickel on my hollow bodies and an 11-49 set with a wound third on my semi-hollow Sheraton.


FWIW- and NOT to brag, 's just how it is- I really like medium to heavy strings; my idea of med/light Rock and Blues gauges for my Les Paul are .011" - .050", 10's or 11's for a Strat or Tele or the like, and as high as .014" - .059" for a flat-top acoustic. (12's seem too light on a flat-top for me! crazy ) 13's are easier to come by in the brands and types of acoustic flat-top strings that I like, though. I just like the feel- particularly, for my fingerstyle picking-hand, as it allows me the kind of dynamic range and response that I like.

I am also accustomed to a little tension when bending, and being used to that I can accurately pre-bend to the desired pitch with consistency when playing on a familiar feeling guitar. Lighter gauges feel too squirrelly to me! grin

Of course, that requires a good set-up, on a good guitar. But, so does playing with light and ultra-light gauges...

HOWEVER, I also believe that there is no wrong answer when it comes to string gauges; whatever a given player likes, for whatever reasons, that yields good results, is a good choice in string-gauge.

When I get myself what I deem a decent Jazz guitar, I'll most likely go with flat-wound strings, in fairly heavy gauges- most likely 13's or 14's. If you sound good with lighter strings than those and enjoy playing on them, then that's the right string for you!
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#2838592 - 02/27/17 04:57 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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On acoustics and electrics I really like 10's. They are a little light for acoustics so I go for 11's on the acoustics. I love flat wound strings and it is hard to go back to any other string after getting spoiled by their smooth feel and absolutely no string squeak. They are a little dull (not as bright) compared to the other strings. I'm still running flat wounds on my electrics. To get closer to the smooth feel of the flats, I'm running 11-52 Elixir Polywebs on the acoustics. I prefer a 3rd string wrapped on both acoustics and electrics. I don't really bend much more than a 1/4 step, so I don't mind the thicker gauges. The Phosphor Bronze works very well with acoustic guitar pickups while nickel and stainless work very well on the electrics. +1 on the tone being another thing to consider, but I think the feel is more important for me as I can adjust for the tone. +1 on the string that works best for each individual. I've gone through just about all of them. For the Flat wounds, I run D'Adario Chromes. They hold up extremely well and are very well priced... cool

Ps. I pulled the trigger on the Epi Archtop...it will be a week or so before it ships as the case is on back order. I think I can wait...yeah, right! crazy


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#2838599 - 02/27/17 05:37 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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I hope you enjoy your new guitar Larry, I'm sure you will. I wish they made a left-handed one. I'd like to have a hollow body or semi hollow body. One made in Indonesia would cost me less than one made in China.
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#2838637 - 02/27/17 08:45 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: JuJu Kwan]
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Thanks JuJu! I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope it works out for me! I didn't know you were a lefty, but if they ever do make a left handed version I'll remember to tell you about it...I'll do a review on it after it shows up on my doorstep! thu

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#2838680 - 02/28/17 05:32 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Bro. Larry,

Congrats! I'm looking forward to reading your initial impressions.

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#2838705 - 02/28/17 07:14 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Thanks Brother Fred, will do! thu

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#2838709 - 02/28/17 07:33 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Ps. I pulled the trigger on the Epi Archtop...it will be a week or so before it ships as the case is on back order. I think I can wait...yeah, right! crazy


Yeah, congratulations, Larry!

It's the Epiphone De Luxe Classic, Masterbilt Century Collection that you ordered, right? Tell us ALL about it once you get it!
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#2838711 - 02/28/17 07:44 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Thanks Caevan! Yeah, that's the one, if you click on the SW link above that I posted on 2/25/17, You will see the write up, specs and pictures of it...I'll keep you all posted as soon as I get my hands on it. thu

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#2838720 - 02/28/17 08:23 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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I don't know how good this guitar is but I want it.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G5622TGG

I think I like the single cutaway better..... But if I decide I would rather install TVs in the thing I will probably be sorry.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gretsch-Guit...380550823799.gc



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#2838737 - 02/28/17 09:59 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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Must keep repeating over and over...

I do not need another hollow body

I do not need another hollow body

I do not need another hollow body
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#2838984 - 03/01/17 03:28 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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I'll probably be picking up an Eastman Ray Benson double cutaway thin line semi-hollow body center block guitar, once they come back in stock. Ebony fingerboard, short scale, 16" bout, 1.75" nut. Lollar pickups, nuff said. :-)
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#2839005 - 03/01/17 04:21 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I'll probably be picking up an Eastman Ray Benson double cutaway thin line semi-hollow body center block guitar, once they come back in stock. Ebony fingerboard, short scale, 16" bout, 1.75" nut. Lollar pickups, nuff said. :-)


I haven't played that one, but, Eastman, yeah!
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#2839047 - 03/01/17 09:05 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Eastman makes a nice guitar. Enjoy!
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#2839111 - 03/02/17 09:12 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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I know nothing about Eastman guitars but this guitar looks great. I'm interested in a cheaper alternative to a Heritage H-555.

https://www.eastmanguitars.com/thinline-t486


https://reverb.com/item/4460814-eastman-...2-tone-sunburst



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#2839117 - 03/02/17 09:29 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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I know of a couple guys that play Eastman's and one of them let me try his out. I think they are very nice well made guitars and they are very well priced... cool

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#2839120 - 03/02/17 09:54 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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I know nothing about Eastman guitars but this guitar looks great. I'm interested in a cheaper alternative to a Heritage H-555.


Small company in Beijing which started out making violins & cellos about 15-20 years ago, then realized those handcarving techniques could be applied to guitar building. They're mostly hand built, no CNC machining, mostly solid woods, impeccable craftsmanship. The 2 Eastmans I have are the cream of the collection of around 2 dozen guitars here. Not cheap, but a whole lot of guitar for the money.
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#2839127 - 03/02/17 10:07 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Thanks. They look really nice in the pictures. What are the electronics like? Pot and pickup replacements are a pain in a Semi-Hollow.

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#2839133 - 03/02/17 10:36 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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Thanks. They look really nice in the pictures. What are the electronics like? Pot and pickup replacements are a pain in a Semi-Hollow.


One of mine has a floating Kent Armstrong jazz pickup, which is excellent. The other is a prototype nylon string with a piezo/internal mic system. Predictably the piezo sounds like every piezo I've heard; hard, brittle, unnatural. Not Eastman's fault, that's just how piezos sound to me. The internal mic sounds just like the guitar acoustically. I haven't gigged with that one yet. I can't say about the pots, since I tend to find the sweet spot & leave it there for years, just rolling the tone up or down a bit to match the venue.
The one you posted has Seymour Duncans, so I don't see any replacement work needed there at all. The only modification I would imagine would be to add a Bigsby.
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#2839157 - 03/02/17 11:27 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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#2839529 - 03/04/17 02:15 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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I have so many Eastman instruments that I try to resist another, but it's hard. :-) I expect to have an Eastman mandola later this year, and have several acoustic guitars from them (parlour, 12-string, and a "00" on hold).

They even make saxes now, but those seem overpriced and a risk compared to known alternatives. I hear their actual reed production is pretty good though so might try out a box soon.

I'm considering one of their cello models as well.
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#2839534 - 03/04/17 04:04 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I have so many Eastman instruments that I try to resist another, but it's hard. :-) I expect to have an Eastman mandola later this year, and have several acoustic guitars from them (parlour, 12-string, and a "00" on hold).

They even make saxes now, but those seem overpriced and a risk compared to known alternatives. I hear their actual reed production is pretty good though so might try out a box soon.

I'm considering one of their cello models as well.


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#2839544 - 03/04/17 04:51 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
I know nothing about Eastman guitars but this guitar looks great. I'm interested in a cheaper alternative to a Heritage H-555.


Small company in Beijing which started out making violins & cellos about 15-20 years ago, then realized those handcarving techniques could be applied to guitar building. They're mostly hand built, no CNC machining, mostly solid woods, impeccable craftsmanship. The 2 Eastmans I have are the cream of the collection of around 2 dozen guitars here. Not cheap, but a whole lot of guitar for the money.


@CEB, Check out the Peerless Hardtail (ES-335 clone). IMO, this is one hell of a guitar for $1100.00.

http://guitarsnjazz.com/product/peerless-hardtail-3006836/

The "brownburst" or "Tobaccoburst finish is on sale for $949. Man, put the pickups of your choice in there and you've got a killer semi.

Just a thought. As I've previously written, the Eastmans are great guitars and an excellent value as well.
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#2839717 - 03/04/17 08:07 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/epiphone-limited-edition-les-paul-traditional-pro-ii-electric-guitar/j40313000004000?pdpSearchTerm=epiphone guitars#productDetail <---if you're still looking for a Les Paul type guitar Delta, check out this Epi...a buddy bought one and for the price it can really add to the arsenal. He had to buy a case for $100 and have the frets dressed and set up for $80. For a total of $580. He's very happy with it so far. I'll get to try it out next week! cool


Update: I got a chance to play on my buddy's new Epi LP Pro II today. It sounds, plays and feels great! It has a thicker D shaped neck like the older models or the Eric Johnson Strat, with no taper. It feels good and would not be hard to get used to. I like a slim taper 60's neck but this thicker neck felt pretty good. The finish and looks are great. The push/pull knobs for db gain and single to double coils work very well with silent switching. Very nice for the price! cool

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#2841398 - 03/13/17 12:07 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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I tried the Eastman T486 this weekend and it is the most amazing thin body I have ever played. The neck break angle is Gibson-accurate. Nice striped neck binding, and great ebony fingerboard.

I never plugged it in, and now regret that decision, but I didn't want to lose my focus and priority on the "Nick Drake" upgrade that I had gone for.

The thing is, I was planning on getting the Ray Benson version with the trapeze tail piece, the simpler two-knob layout, and especially the Lollar pickups vs. the oh-so-common Seymour Duncan Jazz/'59 combo.

As the Ray Benson is hard to find and would have to be ordered, I'm wondering whether it would be better just to get the one I've tried -- though Eastman necks are consistently good. I had convinced myself the Lollar pickups would be more versatile and set apart from my other guitars than the SD set.


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#2841403 - 03/13/17 12:27 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Thanks for the review on the T486 !!! That guitar has been on my radar since your first post about the Eastmans.


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#2842756 - 03/18/17 07:54 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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My technician recommends the Hofner Verythin, which I didn't even bother trying last weekend when I saw one for the first time. I tried their bass and loved it, but it never occurred to me to bother trying the guitar.

He says these are well-built instruments, with very little work needed for setup or maintenance, and that they have a unique sound with a wide tonal palette due to a unique design.

If it isn't sold, I'll try it when I return to the local indie store this coming week. I plan to buy the bass, if I have the dough.
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#2842758 - 03/18/17 07:59 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2842778 - 03/18/17 10:19 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETD2VNNH <---I'm kind of getting gas over this new $900 EPI Master Built Archtop with hidden electronics... drool


Well, I received the guitar from SW a couple of weeks ago and mailed it back today. SW was very good about taking the guitar back and sending a return authorization and mailing label. I would buy from them again.

The last Epi ES-175 I bought had a problem with the output jack. I liked the guitar so much that I kept it anyway and bought a special tool so I can maintain it myself. It has been working fine. This Masterbilt Epi also had an electronics problem as it had no volume on the 1st E string. Probably due to the piezo wire misaligned and/or slipping under the bridge saddle. Could also be a loose wire or pot problem but I'm pretty sure it's in the bridge wiring. They would have fixed the guitar and/or replaced it at SW but I decided to just return it for credit. It had some fretting problem on the low Estring from the 9th to 12th fret, which could be resolved by a setup. The guitar may be well liked by the other reviewers but it didn't fit with my playing style. I could make it rattle if I played anything but lightly. The electronics did pick up a lot of string squeak but it still sounded very nice.

Anyway, I was sad having to return it as it looked really nice and the action was very nice. If there were any future electronics that needed replacing, it would be a difficult guitar to do repair work on, so I decided not to take any chances.

So that's about all I can say about it for now...I'm glad I got to try it out and wished it would have worked for me. cool

ps. Brother Fred, hope you can resist that GAS as you don't need another hollow body LOL!


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#2842885 - 03/19/17 01:53 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETD2VNNH <---I'm kind of getting gas over this new $900 EPI Master Built Archtop with hidden electronics... drool


Well, I received the guitar from SW a couple of weeks ago and mailed it back today. SW was very good about taking the guitar back and sending a return authorization and mailing label. I would buy from them again.

The last Epi ES-175 I bought had a problem with the output jack. I liked the guitar so much that I kept it anyway and bought a special tool so I can maintain it myself. It has been working fine. This Masterbilt Epi also had an electronics problem as it had no volume on the 1st E string. Probably due to the piezo wire misaligned and/or slipping under the bridge saddle. Could also be a loose wire or pot problem but I'm pretty sure it's in the bridge wiring. They would have fixed the guitar and/or replaced it at SW but I decided to just return it for credit. It had some fretting problem on the low Estring from the 9th to 12th fret, which could be resolved by a setup. The guitar may be well liked by the other reviewers but it didn't fit with my playing style. I could make it rattle if I played anything but lightly. The electronics did pick up a lot of string squeak but it still sounded very nice.

Anyway, I was sad having to return it as it looked really nice and the action was very nice. If there were any future electronics that needed replacing, it would be a difficult guitar to do repair work on, so I decided not to take any chances.

So that's about all I can say about it for now...I'm glad I got to try it out and wished it would have worked for me. cool

ps. Brother Fred, hope you can resist that GAS as you don't need another hollow body LOL!


I'm sorry to learn that, Larry!

I'm surprised that got past Sweetwater Sound and they shipped it to you in the first place!

Any chance that you'd try another, or maybe even the same one if it was made right?
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#2842951 - 03/19/17 10:38 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Thanks a bunch Caevan! No, I don't think I'll try another one as I have more guitars than I need. I was only buying this one as it is kind of a special arch top flashback to the 30's. Kind of a let down after the GAS attack. I was wondering how it got out of the Epiphone factory? Maybe they only test one out of 10 or so on the production line...SW does have a 55 point inspection but I think they might overlook a thing or two LOL! They have been very good so far on taking it back. Hopefully they will credit the full amount on my card next month! thu

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#2842991 - 03/20/17 05:32 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Thanks a bunch Caevan! No, I don't think I'll try another one as I have more guitars than I need. I was only buying this one as it is kind of a special arch top flashback to the 30's. Kind of a let down after the GAS attack. I was wondering how it got out of the Epiphone factory? Maybe they only test one out of 10 or so on the production line...SW does have a 55 point inspection but I think they might overlook a thing or two LOL! They have been very good so far on taking it back. Hopefully they will credit the full amount on my card next month! thu


To be fair, hings may have gone awry during shipping. Under-saddle piezo pickups like that can be fragile and, as you mentioned, easily thrown-off by misalignment and other physical factors of the bridge they're installed in.

Years ago I had just such an under-saddle piezoelectric pickup installed in a beautiful Alvarez-Yairy, by a VERY competent, world-class luthier (at the time, one of his many ardent clients was violinist Jean Luc Ponty). He'd spent a good deal of time carefully milling the bottom of the bridge-slot and the underside of the bridge-saddle to tweak and balance the response to all of the strings, rather than just slapping it under there and calling it 'done'.

Things went a little sour later on that year, and then it stopped working altogether. In spite of a more than two-week waiting list for repairs and mods (he was a busy man in great demand!), he graciously told me "come back in about a half an hour, go get some lunch or something", and installed a new replacement piezo, citing that "it never should have gone bad like that", refusing to take any payment.

So, these things happen!
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#2842998 - 03/20/17 06:29 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Bro Larry,

Sorry The Epi didn't work out. Life goes on.

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#2843033 - 03/20/17 08:15 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Thanks Brother Fred! A great story Caevan...Sounds like you had a wonderful luthier. One of my Taylor nylon acoustic guitars had a piezo problem right out of the box, that was fixed by a Taylor recommended luthier. Took him a couple of hours but he got the saddle shaved and brought the guitar back to life under warranty. Things happen...none of my other acoustics have had a piezo problem for many many years. cool

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#2843140 - 03/20/17 02:06 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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That's a shame; I had the impression the QC would be far higher than normal on this new Epi line.
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#2843223 - 03/20/17 05:17 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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+1 Sharkman, it is a great looker and a lot of thought was given to Arch Top historical details and quality so I won't judge Epi based upon my playing ability and a minor QC flaw LOL! The round sound-hole version would be another way to go (while saving a few bucks) but I was in love with the f-holes concept! thu

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#2843409 - 03/21/17 08:45 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Larry, if it was made in Indonesia it was probably made in the Samick factory, so QC may not be up to Epiphone standards like the Chinese models, which are mode in the Epiphone factory. I'm not sure that's the problem but it could be. Samick makes guitars for several brands, some cheap, some high end. I wounder if the quality is any different.


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#2843419 - 03/21/17 09:24 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: JuJu Kwan]
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The best Asian Epiphones were the older Korean built Samick Sheraton IIs. I'm currently not much a fan but I'm not their target market. I'm an old player and most my pieces I acquired here and there when I was young.

However my #1 for the rock gig I'm doing is an Indonesian Yamaha. I wanted something with a trem that wasn't a Floyd but would stay in tune. So far I like it a lot. Wilkerson Trem, locking tuners, Duncan pickups, nice looking finish, well dressed frets. Strat style guitar with a Duncan Custom 5 and Duncan P90. The electronics are nice. The bridge is a little too hot for my taste but in single coil mode it works well with the P90. It doesn't get along well with my Ernie Ball Volume pedal. But I have no complaints about the guitar. It MAPs for $700.







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#2843425 - 03/21/17 09:56 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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@ JuJu and CEB, I bought an Epiphone ES-175 that was made in Korea and has labels saying it was "assembled in the USA and 100% inspected". After about 4 days of playing the jack came loose and I sent the guitar back for a replacement. The replacement lasted 2 weeks before the jack came loose again. I took it to GC and had the jack tightened. 8 months later it came loose again. I bought a special tool and tightened it myself and so far it hasn't come loose again. If it does, I've got the blue locktite on standby and that will fix it. If not, I'll have my tech install a permanent after market quality jack that will never come loose again LOL! Long story short [pun intended], you can have problems no matter where the guitar is made (at least I can LOL!). My 175 is an arch top with F-holes and an adjustable bridge with 2 USA 57 humbuckers and 500K pots. So, I really didn't need another hollow body. But I sure liked the looks and vibe of that Masterbilt EPI! cool

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#2843428 - 03/21/17 10:21 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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...blue locktite... cool


That should do.
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#2843442 - 03/21/17 11:06 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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The best Asian Epiphones were the older Korean built Samick Sheraton IIs.


I would think the best Asian Epiphones are the now discontinued Elitist series made in the Terada factory in Japan, though I haven't played one. And in my experience, the Peerless made Epiphones have a bit of an edge over the later Unsung models. Haven't played a Samick Epiphone, but I do have a Samick brand archtop, and I really prefer my several Peerless Epiphones & Gretsches to that Samick.
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#2843465 - 03/21/17 12:30 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I forgot about those. Those were really nice.

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#2843590 - 03/22/17 05:26 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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The best Asian Epiphones were the older Korean built Samick Sheraton IIs.


I agree wholeheartedly. I own a '97 Sheraton (Samick built) that looks, plays and sounds like a much more expensive guitar. This excellence was recently enhanced by upgrading the pots and caps and installing a pair of StewMac Parson Street Alnico II humbuckers (thanks, Caevan). She is a joy to play.
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#2843646 - 03/22/17 09:25 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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...blue locktite... cool


That should do.


twothumbs

All this talk about Epi's and hollow bodies caused me to drag that ES-175 out last night. What a great little guitar to play coming through my little Hot Rod Deluxe 112 tuber! I'm going to change out of those flatwounds and go round wound nickel. I want to bring back some of the unplugged acoustic sound, string squeak and all LOL! cool

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#2843647 - 03/22/17 09:27 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
The best Asian Epiphones were the older Korean built Samick Sheraton IIs.


I agree wholeheartedly. I own a '97 Sheraton (Samick built) that looks, plays and sounds like a much more expensive guitar. This excellence was recently enhanced by upgrading the pots and caps and installing a pair of StewMac Parson Street Alnico II humbuckers (thanks, Caevan). She is a joy to play.


Do you know about the Guitar Dater Project site?
http://www.guitardaterproject.org/epiphone.aspx
Just type in your Epiphone serial number & it tells you where & when it was built. I mention it since it may turn out that our favorite Epiphones may be great because they were made by Peerless. I don't know if Peerless was making 335 style Epiphones but the fully hollow archtops from that period were Peerless.
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#2843651 - 03/22/17 09:59 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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twothumbs

All this talk about Epi's and hollow bodies caused me to drag that ES-175 out last night. What a great little guitar to play coming through my little Hot Rod Deluxe 112 tuber! I'm going to change out of those flatwounds and go round wound nickel. I want to bring back some of the unplugged acoustic sound, string squeak and all LOL! cool


I S0O0O0O0O0O0O0 HIGHLY recommend DR Pure Blues for that... I favor their .011" - .050" set for Gibson Les Paul/ES types and scale-lengths. Fuller, more robust mids and low-mids, and they feel great, too!
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#2843653 - 03/22/17 10:13 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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@Scott,

I just confirmed that my Sheraton SN#S97074621 was in fact made in the Samick factory in July 1997.

Thanks for the input.

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#2843654 - 03/22/17 10:30 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Thanks Caevan! However, I'm a stickler on having a wound 3rd on all my axes. The DR 11-50's have a plain 3rd and you have to go to 12's in order to get a wound 3rd. 12's are a little too heavy a gauge for my liking. D'Addario makes a set of 11-49 nickel wound with a wound 3rd so I'm going to try them first. I would like a plain 3rd for less squeak and bending but I don't bend more than a 1/4 or so anymore. The plain 3rd just doesn't work for my ear on the open chords. I have liked running 10's and it's easy to find a wound 3rd on electric flatwounds and all acoustic string sets. Round wounds not so easy, if at all, in the 10 gauge electric and very few in the 11's on electrics. I can handle 11's and prefer that gauge on my acoustics so I'm going to try them on the 175 and if they don't feel right, I'll give those DR's a try! Thanks again... cool


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#2843655 - 03/22/17 10:31 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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I S0O0O0O0O0O0O0 HIGHLY recommend DR Pure Blues for that... I favor their .011" - .050" set for Gibson Les Paul/ES types and scale-lengths. Fuller, more robust mids and low-mids, and they feel great, too!


I'll agree with that. They just feel so smooth, almost like they're lightly oiled. I wish they had a coated version for less squeak, though.
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#2844533 - 03/25/17 03:28 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Scott Fraser]
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Little did I realize the wealth of info that would come pouring out when I started this thread. So much to digest. My next question would be; for blues based rock and rock/jazz fusion on a semi hollow, what would you go with as far as a pickup configuration. I know that it would depend on the guitar itself, but I would appreciate some opinions. Thanks in advance.

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#2844678 - 03/26/17 10:58 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Delta]
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@ Delta, I like having two pickups (like my 57 USA Gibson Humbuckers) and a 3way. I like having separate volume controls for blending in the middle position. Many of the overseas jazz guitars are using EPI pickups so they would probably work just as well. Except that on my EPI, they chose to use the Gibsons LOL! Anyway, a good humbucker front and rear will get you by on Jazz, Rock, Country, etc. IMHO.

@ Scott and Caevan, I have been waiting for years for someone to come up with some polished recording strings for less squeak. This is what I use on my classical strung nylon guitars. Well I finally found some new ones being put out by Pyramid and they are on the way. They should have a whole lot of less squeak without the dull thump of flatwounds (which are the king of no squeak). I ordered the 11's (which should work out on my ES-175 Epi and I'll keep you posted on how they work out). They do have some lighter gauge 10's which is what I have been using but I'm opting for a little heavier gauge... cool


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#2844701 - 03/26/17 02:12 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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@Bro. Larry,

Strings & Beyond carries D'Addario single wound 3rds in several gauges. You can essentially use any set you want, add the appropriate gauge wound 3rd and you'd be good to go.
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#2844730 - 03/26/17 04:42 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Thanks Brother Fred, +1 Strings and Beyond is where I found the Pyramids. I'm not sure if the 11's that I ordered have a wound 3rd, but I will soon find out. I'm pretty sure the 10's have a plain 3rd but the main thing I have been looking for is the polished strings. They will be half way between a round wound and a flat wound as far as string squeak and brightness. I have used D'Addario flat wound 10's with a wrapped 3rd for many years and I like them. But, then again if I can get a brighter sound, I have to give the polished Pyramids a try... cool

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#2844791 - 03/26/17 09:52 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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I've been thinking about trying the Pyramids on my Hagstrom Viking Baritone thin body. Then I saw an ad this month for LaBella's new "Pyramid Gold" wannabe's at half the price. But as I hate the new LaBella nickel plated bass strings I tried recently, I'm not terribly confident in their recent branching out into a bunch of new strings vs. their traditional flat wound bass strings ("Deep Talkin' Bass").
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#2844796 - 03/26/17 10:53 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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@ Mark, I used to use Thomastik-infeld flatwounds but now they are way overpriced at $26 a set. La Bella Jazz Flats run $20 a set. I've been using D'Addario Chromes at $11 a set. These new Pyramid Nickel Classic Hand Polished 11-50's run $14 a set (10-46 are $11 a set). I'm not familiar with the bass strings by La Bella or Pyramid. Pyramid Gold Flatwounds for guitar run $22 a set. I didn't know La Bella made a "Pyramid Gold" and it sounds like La Bella is using the same name if the ad is correct...I wonder if they are the same company? cool


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#2845421 - 03/29/17 06:35 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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I've been using DA EPN115 (11-48 Pure Nickel) on all three of my Hollow bodies and DA EXL115w (11-49 wound third) on my semi-hollow Sheraton. I used the EXL115w set on all my guitars for many years before switching to pure Nickel on the hollow bodies for the added warmth a few years ago.

Both sets are well under $10.


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#2845427 - 03/29/17 06:55 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Afterthought:

Maybe I'll take my own advice, buy a few single wound thirds and make a custom set of Pure Nickels. I bet they would sound nice.
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#2845452 - 03/29/17 08:05 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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Brother Fred, I was doing the wound 3rd trick in my old country rock band from 79 through about 83 or so by ordering singles. I had a Les Paul and really enjoyed the sound of a wound 3rd when playing open chords and leads using the open 3rd string. The smallest gauge I could find was a 18w. I had a whole bunch of plain 3rds in a box. I gave all of them to my fishing buddy who made lures out of them LOL! Later in life D'Addario made a blues/jazz set in 10's with a wound 3rd. It's easy to find the heavy 12's, Flatwound 10's and acoustic 10's with wound 3rd sets. I'm trying to beef up to 11's as it gets a little easier. +1 in your recommendation though of making your own custom sets as singles are much easier to order these days! cool


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#2845490 - 03/29/17 09:30 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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+1 Fred on the singles... Only way to go as far as I'm concerned.

Beats heck out of those old black diamond sets of finger killers that was us rural folks only choice.

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#2845543 - 03/29/17 12:25 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: DocPate]
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@Doc Pate.

I recall using Black Diamond strings during my first year playimg (1964). They were crap strings.
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#2845745 - 03/30/17 09:15 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Fred_C]
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The hand polished Pyramids came in and they are 11, 14, 20W 30 42 50. I haven't put them on yet, but I am a very happy camper with the string gauge with a wound 3rd. I'll update again later on how they work on the Epiphone ES-175. I used the guitar for the 1st time at a gig last night and was very happy with it. The flatwounds worked fine but I'm hoping to get some brighter sound with more sustain using the round core nickel wrapped hand polished strings. Hopefully they will also squeak less than regular strings... cool

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#2845754 - 03/30/17 10:06 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: DocPate]
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Originally Posted By: DocPate
+1 Fred on the singles... Only way to go as far as I'm concerned.

Beats heck out of those old black diamond sets of finger killers that was us rural folks only choice.


That is what I started on. The local drug store sold them when I was a boy.

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#2845770 - 03/30/17 11:20 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: CEB]
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One thing about Black Diamond, widespread distribution. I even found them at gas stations.
I remember when I got my first set of med. Martin nickel strings.. Lived in Sparta TN at the time and the music outlet kept them in stock for Lester Flatt.

Not that any of this affects hollow body vs semi.


Edited by DocPate (03/30/17 11:22 AM)

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#2845819 - 03/30/17 01:48 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: DocPate]
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I think string gauges get a little heavier on Hollow and SemiHollow electrics than they do on solid bodies like Strats and LP's. I remember the days when Black Diamond strings could be found anywhere to include drugstores. They would do in a pinch until you could get to a music store somewhere.

Speaking of heavier strings (i.e. 11-50 with the wrapped 3rd), I just threw the Pyramid Hand Polished strings on my ES-175 and they are going to work out fine! The round cores help with tone and sustain. I did have to increase the volume levels a bit, but I think I've found my favorite string for electric hollow bodies. The intonation stayed very close so I may wait till the strings break in before trying any adjustments. Maybe just a very little tad sharp at the 12th fret, but using harmonics at he 12th, they are dead on. I may just put them on my other guitars (to include trying them on an acoustic/electric). Little or no squeak, not as stiff or as dull as flatwounds, which makes me a very happy camper!! cool


Edited by Larryz (03/30/17 01:50 PM)

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#2845965 - 03/31/17 06:17 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Adding a bit to the "HOLLOW BODY" thoughts, I've found over the years the more an acoustic guitar is played, the easier it is to get the soundboard (top) moving, ergo better sustain, tone, resonance, whatever that magical sound is called. When my old J45 Gibson was new, it took pretty heavy strings to get a good tone to my old brass ears. As it aged and was played heavily, I found I could move down a couple of gauges to get the same ring and thump! smile

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#2850657 - 04/20/17 12:13 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: DocPate]
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I'm thinking of getting D'addario EXL 10.5's for my new Eastman T486-RB semi-hollow thinline guitar.

The strings it came with are truly awful. Not sure what they are.

This guitar likely would not be happy with flat-wound strings. It is not a bright guitar, which makes me quite happy as Epi's are always too bright for me.

A wound third would be a big problem on this particular guitar, technically. I'll have to be careful to avoid such sets.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (04/20/17 12:14 PM)
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#2850659 - 04/20/17 12:38 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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My new go to strings are the "Hand Polished" Pyramid 11-50's nickel round wound with a wrapped 3rd. They make them in 10's with a plain 3rd. The wrapped strings are on a round core instead of hex so they bend easier than flat wounds. They do not squeak and are very similar to running flats but they are a little brighter. The 10's run about $11 bucks a set at Strings and Beyond .com. Great recording and jazz strings... cool


Edited by Larryz (04/20/17 12:59 PM)

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#2850851 - 04/21/17 12:39 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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The new D'angelico strings are a similar concept. I wouldn't try them on a 335, but maybe on my EXL-1.
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#2850997 - 04/22/17 08:12 AM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I looked for hand polished D'Angelico new strings and couldn't find them on JustStrings or Strings and Beyond. They only have the new strings D'Angelico in several gauges (wound or plain 3rds) zinc infused EXP coated strings that are made by D'Addario...maybe there are more new ones coming, but I could not find them.

The Pyramid hand polished strings are pure nickel and are not coated. The D'Angelico will most likely be brighter but they will squeak more than the Pyramids. I'm trying to get away from coated strings. My buddy tried the hand polished on his new jazz box and he's sold. I just ordered 4 more sets of the 11-50's yesterday as I prefer a wound 3rd. The 10's come with a plain 3rd. Anyway Mark, hope you find the set that works best for you on your new baby! cool


Edited by Larryz (04/22/17 08:13 AM)

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#2851093 - 04/22/17 07:11 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Larry, I had trouble finding full specs on the D'angelico and had read a misleading review at some magazine (maybe Premier Guitar), so apologize for the incorrect comparison. I didn't think they were coated!

There are several Pyramid sets I've been waiting to try on bass, guitar, and folk instruments. I have specific matches I want to try though, and don't yet own the bass I want to try them on (Hofner Verythin Bass). I want to try their Octave Mandolin strings as well, but am not sure I want flats on it.
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#2851118 - 04/22/17 09:34 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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No worries Mark, I have fun researching strings. Those two sites JustStrings and Strings and Beyond, are great places to find just about any brand and type of string and they have good prices too! The shipping and handling is a bit steep if you only buy a set or two... cool

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#2851124 - 04/22/17 09:57 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Larryz]
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Surprisingly though, their information is not always complete. Sometimes I find good info at manufacturer sites -- especially D'addario, who recently re-did their site and have useful tension comparison charts.
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#2851126 - 04/22/17 10:12 PM Re: Hollow vs. Semihollow Electrics [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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+1 on the actual manufacture sites. http://www.daddario.com/DaddarioHome.Page?ActiveID=2626&sid=fcc37670-4ce1-4b8c-bb87-50439ccfb346 <---- D'Addario is a good one... cool

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