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#2835198 - 02/12/17 09:49 AM Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread
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It's been a week since Super Bowl LI, and it's time to start a new NFL football thread.

Here are this weekend's top stories:

Destination Romo: All the places Tony could go

Is buzz surrounding Bears and Jimmy Garoppolo real?

Raiders President Marc Badain says financing for Las Vegas stadium won't be an issue

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#2835199 - 02/12/17 09:50 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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And of course:



GO PACKERS!!! thu

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#2835253 - 02/12/17 02:58 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Well, regardless where the Raiders end up playing football in the future, they have locked up HC Jack Del Rio with a new four (4) year contract. cool
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#2835280 - 02/12/17 04:15 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal? It's an interesting situation there.

Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.

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#2835285 - 02/12/17 04:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Originally Posted By: antimatter
ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal? It's an interesting situation there.

Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.

Yes I do. thu

If Philip Rivers became available I might feel differently. laugh

Seriously, the QB market is not that great.

While Cousins makes mistakes at the worst time, IMO, poor coaching decisions have put him in some of those situations.

Cousins has proven to be a solid QB. I believe he'll be even better with a sense of job security and more experience under his belt.

I'll give my 2 cents to the question posed to Geoff...

I think teams should learn from that Osweiler deal. It does not make sense to throw a bag of gold at an unproven backup QB.

A few years ago, Seattle picked up Flynn for less money than Brock got but Flynn was beat out in training camp by their current all-Pro, SB champion, starting QB.

Neither Matt Cassel nor Ryan Mallett has set the NFL on fire after leaving New England. Garrapolo might be good but we haven't seen enough of him yet.

Unless a team is desperate at QB and/or has a tremendous offensive line, it doesn't make sense to throw money at Romo either. I believe he only has 1 or 2 years of football left in his tank. cool
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#2835295 - 02/12/17 06:14 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Originally Posted By: ProfD
Originally Posted By: antimatter
ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal?

Yes I do. thu


Agreed. Cousins is very good, not great, but right now there isn't a better option. What should they do, trade him for a few draft picks and start Colt McCoy? I think not.
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#2835337 - 02/13/17 12:58 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Originally Posted By: antimatter
Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.

ProfD made a very strong case against overspending on a backup quarterback. CEB seems to have a lot of faith in Garoppolo. I'll be interested in his opinion as well.

As for me, I haven't seen enough yet to say whether Garoppolo's the answer; but I've seen enough of Jay Cutler—both on the Broncos and Bears—to understand why the Bears might think he's a problem that needs solving. I agree that Garoppolo's probably a better gamble than Romo at this point. Romo's probably a better fit for a team that has peaked and only needs an experienced, high-calibre quarterback to take them the rest of the way—like Peyton Manning did with the Broncos.

It'll be fun to watch it all play out.

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#2835449 - 02/13/17 02:27 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Matt Schaub
Brian Hoyer
Ryan Mallett
Brock Osweiler

What do these guys all have in common? They were all acquired by the Houston Texans to be the starter after being a backup QB somewhere else. facepalm

Bless their hearts, they are trying to find a diamond in the rough, but jeez, this has gotten the Texans nowhere for a while now. They can only hope the offensive coaching changes they've made will work for Brock, but I'm not holding my breath.

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#2835454 - 02/13/17 02:49 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Agreed. Cousins is very good, not great, but right now there isn't a better option. What should they do, trade him for a few draft picks and start Colt McCoy? I think not.

I believe the Skins used their franchise tag on Cousins last season. So, I think they have to make a deal or let him walk. I'm not sure they're in a position to get anything in trade.

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Matt Schaub
Brian Hoyer
Ryan Mallett
Brock Osweiler

What do these guys all have in common? They were all acquired by the Houston Texans to be the starter after being a backup QB somewhere else. facepalm

Bless their hearts, they are trying to find a diamond in the rough, but jeez, this has gotten the Texans nowhere for a while now. They can only hope the offensive coaching changes they've made will work for Brock, but I'm not holding my breath.

If the Skins do not keep Cousins, they end up on this type of QB carousel. The diamond in the rough is a college kid. That's a 2-3 year development program.

IMO, McCoy is s decent backup QB but not a long-term solution. The Skins have to keep Cousins or bring in a veteran like Cutler, Romo or Kaepernick. sick laugh cool


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#2840657 - 03/09/17 03:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.
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#2840661 - 03/09/17 03:18 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.
He had better be - otherwise they have even less at QB than they did. And no, I don't want Smokin' Jay Cutler.

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#2840663 - 03/09/17 03:24 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.


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#2840674 - 03/09/17 04:45 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Bears Suck.

F*** It!

Go Raiders.


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#2840886 - 03/10/17 06:18 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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once again, Redskins organization completely dysfunctional.
Embarrassing. facepalm
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#2840930 - 03/11/17 12:26 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Rare free agency move for Green Bay:

Former Patriots TE Martellus Bennett signs with Packers

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#2840931 - 03/11/17 12:28 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.


Denver

Or maybe this:

Fox interested in having Tony Romo in booth as analyst, sources say

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#2841218 - 03/12/17 06:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Rats:

T.J. Lang signs three-year deal with Lions

Oh well, I'm happy for Lang to get to return to his home state of Michigan to play for the team he probably rooted for as a child. I hope the Packers can find suitable linemen. Lang is the second starter they've lost during this offseason. (Center JC Tretter was the first.)

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#2841412 - 03/13/17 01:08 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2841420 - 03/13/17 01:29 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Big loss for the Broncos on defense:

DeMarcus Ware, 8th all-time in sacks, announces retirement

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#2841479 - 03/13/17 06:09 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Rare free agency move for Green Bay:

Former Patriots TE Martellus Bennett signs with Packers

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This was a good sign. Bennett was good on the Giants, not utilized well on the Bears, and had some bright moments on the Pats. I think Rodgers will like having this big target in the end zone.

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#2841481 - 03/13/17 06:11 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Big loss for the Broncos on defense:

DeMarcus Ware, 8th all-time in sacks, announces retirement

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Here is a guy I think has been around forever, but is oh too young. NFL- not for long. frown

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#2841999 - 03/15/17 03:31 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Sad but true. Ware reportedly turned down $9 million to retire.

I hope you're right about Bennett, antimatter.

In the meantime, the Packers have some big holes to fill:

Eddie Lacy is Seahawks' latest gamble to replace Marshawn Lynch

Julius Peppers: Set to rejoin Carolina

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#2842077 - 03/15/17 09:37 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Well, the Skins fire the GM and lose Garcon and D-Jax to free agency. They must be counting on the young WRs (Crowder, Grant and Doctson) and addition of Pryor to help Cousins. cool
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#2842288 - 03/16/17 04:09 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Raiders have added Cordarelle Patterson and Jared Cook. I can live with that. Wouldn't mind seeing another RB, either in the draft or via free agency.

Vikings got Latavuis Murray. I'm okay with that, too...

Eagles with Alshon Jeffery on one side and Torrey Smith on the other. Also interesting. Sure, Smith is a one trick pony (the long ball), but it's a gooooood trick.

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#2844170 - 03/23/17 11:48 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2844389 - 03/24/17 07:32 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Good thing I don't hang out on this thread. Full-on Pats fan for the last 20 years. It hasn't been bad smile

The rest of you are wannabees ...
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#2844393 - 03/24/17 07:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: cphollis]
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Good thing I don't hang out on this thread. Full-on Pats fan for the last 20 years. It hasn't been bad smile

The rest of you are wannabees ...

Nonsense. Very few of us wanna be Pats fans. idea facepalmpoke hitt

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#2844395 - 03/24/17 08:02 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Raiders have added Cordarelle Patterson and Jared Cook. I can live with that. Wouldn't mind seeing another RB, either in the draft or via free agency.

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#2845010 - 03/27/17 04:12 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: tucktronix]
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Speaking of the Raiders...

Owners vote 31-1 to OK Raiders move; Dolphins vote against

The Raiders will still play in Oakland in 2017, and possibly longer.

I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed. I doubt it's a good idea to plant a team into the capitol of organized gambling.

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#2845525 - 03/29/17 11:02 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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What you need to know about NFL's new rules for 2017

No more leaping over the line of scrimmage to block extra point attempts or field goal attempts, for one thing.

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#2845527 - 03/29/17 11:11 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Raiders will still play in Oakland in 2017, and possibly longer.

If so, not much longer.

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#2846245 - 04/01/17 09:56 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2846430 - 04/02/17 08:58 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Great try brotha Dave. Yesterday was the 1st of the month. laughcool
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#2846442 - 04/02/17 10:23 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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link was removed. it was funny as hell
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#2847176 - 04/05/17 01:43 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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#2847179 - 04/05/17 01:46 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2847210 - 04/05/17 03:34 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Simms got boring for sure over the years. Tony Romo is no Troy Aikman on the field and I bet in the booth. Time will tell. How does a guy with no broadcasting experience get on the network's #1 team? Thank God the NFC is on Fox.
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#2851650 - 04/25/17 07:13 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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#2851791 - 04/25/17 02:01 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Makes sense. Peterson and Brees will make a great backfield, and both are running out of time. I'm not surprised that no team was willing to pay AP the money Minnesota would have owed, but I am surprised at how little he's going to make now.

I'm just glad the Packers won't have to face him at least twice a year for the next two years.

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#2851943 - 04/26/17 06:58 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2851950 - 04/26/17 07:39 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Beast Mode is a proper Raider.
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#2851951 - 04/26/17 07:46 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Beast Mode is a proper Raider.


I'm inclined to agree.



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#2852288 - 04/27/17 02:48 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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I'm glad he got his chance to play for his home team while they're still home in Oakland.

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#2852291 - 04/27/17 03:07 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Me, too! smile

Two year contract, Raiders there for two more years...makes some sense.

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#2852320 - 04/27/17 05:30 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Ryan Pace is a stupid motherfucker.


Edited by CEB (04/27/17 05:31 PM)
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#2852322 - 04/27/17 05:46 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Bears pick QB Trubisky really? hitt
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#2852323 - 04/27/17 05:48 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: bennyray]
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Traded up one spot and gave up 3 picks for that shit.
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#2852324 - 04/27/17 05:49 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Hope he was worth it. The 49ers are happy.

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#2852325 - 04/27/17 05:50 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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#2852326 - 04/27/17 05:52 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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#2852327 - 04/27/17 05:53 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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f*** it I'm a Raiders fan now. Dumb ass bitches.
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#2852332 - 04/27/17 06:08 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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f*** it I'm a Raiders fan now. Dumb ass bitches.

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#2852334 - 04/27/17 06:43 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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I am a Houston Texans fan now that they picked DW out of Clemson.
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#2852335 - 04/27/17 07:08 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: bennyray]
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I am a Houston Texans fan now that they picked DW out of Clemson.

Wow....Cleveland helps the Texans again!

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#2852353 - 04/27/17 10:30 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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They helped the Packers too by giving them an extra fourth round pick simply to move back four spots (picking 33 instead of 29).

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#2852391 - 04/28/17 06:52 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Texans drafted a top QB???

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#2852472 - 04/28/17 03:12 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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A QB frenzy. It will be interesting to see who got it right. Houston played so well against the Pats last year in the playoffs, defensively anyway, maybe Watson pushes them over the edge? Kansas City is a now team, I can't help but feel Alex Smith is a good goat- insert Mahommes.

Chicago is bewildering if what I heard was true, that John Fox wasn't aware of the potential trade up until 2 hours before the draft. That would never happen in say oh NE. But again just a rumor.

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#2852475 - 04/28/17 03:32 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Chicago is bewildering if what I heard was true, that John Fox wasn't aware of the potential trade up until 2 hours before the draft. That would never happen in say oh NE. But again just a rumor.


well, even Business Insider has something to say about it

John Fox reportedly learned about the Bears' plan to trade up for Mitchell Trubisky
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#2852476 - 04/28/17 03:40 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Dumbasses.

Duh Bears.


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#2852504 - 04/28/17 07:40 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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The Packers focused on much-needed alliteration in the second round, picking Kevin King (CB, Washington) and Josh Jones (S, NC State).

Oh, and they'll probably help improve Green Bay's pass defense as well.

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#2852519 - 04/28/17 09:24 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2852548 - 04/29/17 05:48 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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What really happened yesterday.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/status/858123000914345984/video/1
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#2852654 - 04/29/17 04:10 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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#2852656 - 04/29/17 05:15 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Damn, that's cold. Funny, but cold.
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#2852663 - 04/29/17 06:15 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Really, picks from space, animals? It's nuts. I love football, but too long to be blinded at the insane commercialism that has infected every aspect of the game. Yes, the draft has a "winning the lottery" effect for a bunch of young men and their families; good for them. But geez does the NFL have to capitalize it like this? It's bittersweet. I enjoy it and loathe it. facepalm

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#2852697 - 04/30/17 04:50 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Watch Drew Pearson taunt Philly fans while announcing Cowboys pick

I thought this moment was pretty entertaining from both sides. smile

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#2854132 - 05/07/17 05:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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This story broke a couple of days ago. Jay Cutler is following Tony Romo into the broadcast booth:

Ex-Bears QB Jay Cutler has deal to do TV for Fox

As Fox covers the NFC, there's a real likelihood that Cutler will be in the booth for Bears games and former NFC North rivals.

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#2855996 - 05/18/17 11:49 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2856005 - 05/18/17 01:37 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Cool. Eagles needed a power back for Red Zone O.

18 TDs last year? He'll do... thu

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#2856876 - 05/23/17 03:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Ok, so now players can do touchdown group celebrations and use the football as a prop.

I have many reactions to this: facepalm idk cop w00t crazy

Unfortunately endorsements will feed it. Many will practice their celebrations more than plays the team runs. I hope it's fun, but I see train wrecks- especially when my Giants have OBJ and Brandon Marshall. Maybe TO can get a celebration choreography gig. It will be entertaining.

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#2871530 - 08/07/17 07:40 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Jay Cutler is following Tony Romo into the broadcast booth

...or not.

Dolphins agree to one-year, $10M deal with QB Jay Cutler

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#2871600 - 08/08/17 08:30 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal? It's an interesting situation there.

Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.


I think the Pats would be nuts to let Garoppolo go. Brady is a remarkable physical specimen for sure, but dude is getting ready to be 40, and a lot of times guys that cruise along great in their later years suffer a drastically fast erosion of skills at some point. You know at his age that's going to come sooner than later, Father Time being undefeated and all. Besides, Chicago is a place where quarterbacks go to die.....

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Ok, so now players can do touchdown group celebrations and use the football as a prop.

I have many reactions to this: facepalm idk cop w00t crazy

Unfortunately endorsements will feed it. Many will practice their celebrations more than plays the team runs. I hope it's fun, but I see train wrecks- especially when my Giants have OBJ and Brandon Marshall. Maybe TO can get a celebration choreography gig. It will be entertaining.



The first time I watched Any Given Sunday it struck me as kind of a comic book parody of the NFL. Today's game looks like that movie more every year to me.....

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#2875548 - 08/27/17 10:22 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: area51recording]
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#2875584 - 08/28/17 06:50 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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And Spencer Ware. And Cameron Meredith.

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#2877278 - 09/05/17 02:55 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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From the Pick'Em thread:

Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Are you ready?

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All are welcome...

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#2878275 - 09/10/17 02:54 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Packers are lucky to be down 0-3 at the half to the Seahawks. Green Bay's offense has been outplayed by Seattle's defense so far; but luckily, the Packers' defense rose to the challenge, shutting down the Seahawks' offense for all but the last 20 seconds of the half.

Here's hoping the Pack comes back in the second half.

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#2878282 - 09/10/17 04:04 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Packers are wearing the Seahawks down. I don't expect them to blow this lead like they did a few years ago. laughcool
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#2878284 - 09/10/17 04:43 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Green Bay played well enough in the second half that I think they probably would have won the game without the benefit of the bad calls that went against Seattle, but there's no way to know. Too bad the officiating was so bad.

The Seahawks defense is one of the best in the league. They've got a great season ahead.

My condolences to Seattle fans on today's officiating and loss.

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#2878307 - 09/10/17 08:27 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I just finished watching my recording of the Rams/Colts game. Wow! Two pick sixes and a safety from the defense and the best offensive performance of the Goff era make me think this team could end the season in second place. LA's defense looked VERY good—not as good as the Seahawks defense—but top ten at least.

Granted, they faced a Luckless, somewhat decimated Indianapolis squad; but last year's Rams would have struggled to win this game. This year's Rams showed serious potential in their 46-9 win.

And they start the season alone in first place!

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#2878320 - 09/10/17 10:20 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Yankees scored 16 points today.

No, I don't have the wrong thread. As ESPN pointed out, that's one more point than the Jets (12) and Giants (3) combined for today. It's not often when a city's baseball team outscores both of its NFL teams.

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#2878321 - 09/10/17 10:22 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Opening Sunday, and it's just ProfD and me here today...

Are you ready for some football?!? rawk evil thu cool

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#2878346 - 09/11/17 05:33 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Ok, game 1, just an anomaly for us Giants fans. Moving on to the Lions...

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#2878370 - 09/11/17 07:26 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Ok, game 1, just an anomaly for us Giants fans. Moving on to the Lions...

Careful - they had their way with AZ yesterday.

In other football news - BEAST MODE, baby!

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#2878389 - 09/11/17 08:57 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Jaguars spanked Texans 29 to 7, but it really wasn't that close.
Jags had 10, yes that's right 10 sacks on two different Texan quarterbacks. If the pocket had collapsed any faster, I think it might have started nuclear fission. Even if they get Duane Brown back on the offensive line, he is not going to make THAT much difference.

Hopefully some of it is just Hurricane hangover, injuries, and the fact it looks like Jacksonville may be pretty darn good this year.


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#2878414 - 09/11/17 11:40 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Daniel Wade]
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I think most of it was due to the hurricane. Remember the Saints finished 3-13 the year of Katrina, being forced to play all of their home games away from their home stadium. It was their worst record since 1999. The following year, they returned to the Superdome, went 10-6, and played in the NFC Championship game for the first time in franchise history.

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#2878530 - 09/11/17 10:21 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Denver dodged a bullet tonight! thu

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#2878735 - 09/12/17 05:37 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Ok, game 1, just an anomaly for us Giants fans. Moving on to the Lions...

Careful - they had their way with AZ yesterday.


dB


Yeah. Giants defensively are in the mix, but the O-line is lacking. The guy with the cool hair can only do so much when he returns.

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#2878736 - 09/12/17 05:46 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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I thought the Seattle-Green Bay game was pretty special for week 1. The NFC is going to be a tough fight.



Ok, the AFC won't be a pushover either - looking forward to seeing Raiders/Chiefs.. and oh my will Belichick be running the Pats ragged in practices this week.

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#2878768 - 09/12/17 08:17 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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I thought the Seattle-Green Bay game was pretty special for week 1. The NFC is going to be a tough fight.

The Packers travel to Atlanta to face the Falcons next week in a replay of last season's NFC Championship game. On the heels of their contest against the Seahawks, that's tough indeed!

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#2878773 - 09/12/17 08:38 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Ok, game 1, just an anomaly for us Giants fans. Moving on to the Lions...

Careful - they had their way with AZ yesterday.


dB


Yeah. Giants defensively are in the mix, but the O-line is lacking. The guy with the cool hair can only do so much when he returns.

Unless Brandon Marshall or Sterling Shepard step up, I agree - ODB will almost certainly be headed for a decent amount of double coverage regardless.

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#2878776 - 09/12/17 09:31 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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What do you guys view as the biggest surprise of week one, that the Patriots lost their home opener, that the Rams are in sole possession of first place, or that the Bills are in sole possession of first place?

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#2879334 - 09/14/17 08:46 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Deshaun Watson's first start is a success. His 49-yard touchdown run in the 2nd quarter tonight was the longest ever by a quarterback in his first NFL start. Happy birthday, Deshaun!

In the meantime, the Bengals have yet to score their first touchdown of the season.

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#2879346 - 09/14/17 09:50 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I was surprised by the Pats' loss in week 1. Not so much by week 1 standings. grin cool
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#2879377 - 09/15/17 05:05 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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I'm surprised people are still watching football...
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#2879878 - 09/17/17 08:58 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Gatorjohn50]
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Well, I'm still watching; but that last game was just painful to watch. The Falcons not only beat the Packers, they beat them up. Five starters injured, including Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb. Here's hoping Green Bay can remedy that by the end of the season, or they won't get past the NFC Championship Game again (presuming they're lucky enough to get that far).

But today's win by the Broncos was a thing of beauty! They dominated on both sides of the ball against a strong Cowboys team. Who would have thought Trevor Siemian could look better than Dak Prescott?

As for the Rams, despite today's loss, I still think they're coming along nicely. They were tied at the 2-minute warning; and if Los Angeles hadn't committed so many penalties, they might have been ahead at that point. Goff was on target with most of his passing, but he's still telegraphing his moves too often. Nonetheless, the Rams are on the right track and a far cry better than last year. Congrats to ProfD on Washington's win.

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#2879880 - 09/17/17 09:07 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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But today's win by the Broncos was a thing of beauty! They dominated on both sides of the ball against a strong Cowboys team. Who would have thought Trevor Siemian could look better than Dak Prescott?

Geoff


Not to mention I gained more yards then Elliot sitting on my couch all day.

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#2880124 - 09/18/17 10:39 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Markyboard]
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Thanks, Mark!

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#2880126 - 09/18/17 10:42 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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In other football news - BEAST MODE, baby!

dB

Marshawn looks like he's having the time of his life playing for his home team. I'm glad he got the chance. cool

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#2880304 - 09/19/17 04:36 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I realize the Giants started 0-2 in 2007 and still managed to beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl, but I'm not sure this edition has it in them. Then again, maybe the Lions are that good. I guess we'll see how they handle themselves against the Falcons next week...

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#2880308 - 09/19/17 04:56 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I realize the Giants started 0-2 in 2007 and still managed to beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl, but I'm not sure this edition has it in them.

I am. They don't. hitt

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#2880335 - 09/19/17 07:53 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Congrats to ProfD on Washington's win.

Thanks Geoff. thu

Too bad for the Packers. Congrats on the Broncos win especially beating an enemy team. grin

I am grateful for the SKins' win. But, I hope they commit to running the football. It sets up everything else and controls the clock.

The defense looks a little better than last year. They still allow teams to march downfield and score. I do not subscribe to the bend but don't break mentality either. We should be more aggressive.

Otherwise, I'm just glad football season is back. I'm having a blast watching the games and playing FF and Pick 'Em. cool
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#2880375 - 09/20/17 05:40 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
I realize the Giants started 0-2 in 2007 and still managed to beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl, but I'm not sure this edition has it in them.

I am. They don't. hitt

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Not looking good. Poor Erik Flowers, kid gets beat with almost every move. Seattle has a bad line too, but at least Russell Wilson can scramble around. Eli is pure pocket passer. Giants plan was to keep the O-line they had last year and assume they'd improve. They didn't. Now the big change is going to be... (gasp), Bob McAdoo giving up play calling, maybe. facepalm

Next Sunday against the Eagles is a must win. Maybe they keep Brandon Marshall in to help Flowers.

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#2880421 - 09/20/17 09:02 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Markyboard]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace


But today's win by the Broncos was a thing of beauty! They dominated on both sides of the ball against a strong Cowboys team. Who would have thought Trevor Siemian could look better than Dak Prescott?

Geoff


Not to mention I gained more yards then Elliot sitting on my couch all day.

Congrats Geoff. cry

Not to mention you didn't slap anyone around.
Too soon?
I think I'm the only former Ohio resident in the state who didn't bleed scarlet and grey, or let it slide when the OSU football players acted like idiots (allegedly). Truly hard to root for these guys sometimes.


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#2880454 - 09/20/17 11:34 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: kpl1228]
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While the Giants are still dead last in offensive rushing, and Flowers can't block, against the Lions Eli really looked slow and inadequate in avoiding the rush.

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#2880809 - 09/21/17 09:41 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: harmonizer]
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What a shootout between the Rams and 49ers! I'm glad LA managed to win (41-39).

One piece of trivia: this is the second highest point total through the first three games in Rams' franchise history (next to the "Greatest Show on Turf" edition). Yeah, I'd say the Rams have improved. thu

(Although, perhaps their defense hasn't yet improved, as much as I hate to say it—as I like Wade Phillips A LOT more than *shudder* Gregg Williams. The 49ers offense hadn't scored a touchdown yet this season prior to tonight's game. They scored five tonight.)

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#2881311 - 09/24/17 01:19 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I guess the Ravens left their game plan in MD. laughcool
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#2881320 - 09/24/17 03:13 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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LOL! Yeah, the "On Any Given Sunday" rule is in full effect today: Jacksonville bashes Baltimore, Buffalo beats Denver—by ten points, Chicago beats Pittsburg, New England narrowly beats Houston, Minnesota has to field backup QB Case Keenum and still handily beats Tampa Bay, and the rebuilding Jets crush the Dolphins—and those are just the morning games!

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#2881331 - 09/24/17 04:47 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Yes!!!

Aaron Rodgers gets his first overtime win as Green Bay beats Cincinnati 27-24 at home.

The Packers were a touchdown shy of covering the spread though, so they can be added to the "On Any Given Sunday" theme that prevailed today.

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#2881340 - 09/24/17 05:40 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Some crazy, kooky finishes today...

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#2881361 - 09/24/17 08:28 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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The Skins defense played lights out tonight. I hope they keep it up.

dB, tough sledding for da Raiders on the east coast. cool
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#2881393 - 09/25/17 05:41 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Man there is a shortage of good O Linemen in the NFL. Get to see who if anybody on the Cowboys wants out of their contract tonight. laugh


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#2881401 - 09/25/17 06:39 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Between the Giants loss, my genius move of starting Cutler over Russell Wilson in FF, and then tanking a variety of pickem pools... just a down week of NFL for me.

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#2881419 - 09/25/17 07:55 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
I realize the Giants started 0-2 in 2007 and still managed to beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl, but I'm not sure this edition has it in them. Then again, maybe the Lions are that good. I guess we'll see how they handle themselves against the Falcons next week...

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You know how it goes....if they can stagger into the playoffs at 9-7 they should probably be the favorite going forward from there.....it's kind of their move....

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#2881576 - 09/25/17 09:18 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: area51recording]
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So Dave, how does it feel to know that the Cowboys' victory catapulted you into sole possession of first place in the Pick 'Em pool?

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#2881577 - 09/25/17 09:55 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2881612 - 09/26/17 04:12 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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The pick'em seems extremely difficult this year - maybe I'm just forgetting. I really enjoyed the new Monday Night format; two 30 minute back to back games. laugh

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#2882676 - 10/01/17 02:08 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Markyboard]
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Some pivotal games today: The Bills handed the Falcons their first defeat of the season in Atlanta to regain sole possession of first place in the AFC East as the Patriots lost at home to the Panthers, who are now tied with the Falcons for first place in the NFC South.

In the meantime, the 3-0 Chiefs are the only undefeated team remaining in the NFL, and they face what may be the best team in the NFC East—Washington—tomorrow night.

It sure was fun to watch the Rams come back to beat the Cowboys today! Los Angeles currently has the top ranked offense in the NFL. thu

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#2882695 - 10/01/17 04:29 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Dave, my condolences on Derek Carr's injury. I hope it turns out to be a minor one.

Meanwhile in the basement of the AFC West, the Chargers lost yet another close one today. They're 0-4, but they're three close losses away from being 3-1.

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#2882733 - 10/01/17 08:22 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Way to go LA Rams. thu

I hope Chargers HC Lynn is given a chance to rebuild their team. It will take a few years to get the right players on the roster.

The Skins have a tall order on Monday night. I believe they will win. grin cool
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#2883036 - 10/02/17 08:32 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Josh Doctson is not going to be getting any love on DC sports talk radio after that dropped touchdown pass with 50 seconds to go to take the lead.
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#2883040 - 10/02/17 08:53 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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That was a great, competitive game! With score at 20-20 with just eight seconds left, it was remarkable to see Kansas City score nine points in the time remaining. Those of us who went with the Chiefs in the Pick'em Pool are breathing a sigh of relief.

Kansas City remains the only undefeated team in the NFL, but Washington played them tough. That game could have easily gone either way.

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#2883461 - 10/05/17 11:01 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2883519 - 10/05/17 03:42 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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I have the same reaction as Cam when most of the ESPN staff tries to discuss football.


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#2883910 - 10/08/17 01:59 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Giants are done, fork please. Beckham's injury looked serious. Man, it's going to be a long season. Now I have to sit and watch the friggin Cowboys try and catch the Eagles.

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#2883935 - 10/08/17 04:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Beckham's injury looked serious.


he will be back next year.
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#2883937 - 10/08/17 05:09 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Now I have to sit and watch the friggin Cowboys try and catch the Eagles.

Not gonna happen. hand idea hitt



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#2883941 - 10/08/17 05:52 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Packers/ Cowboys - Hell of a battle today. Felt very familiar...for some reason sick

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Whitney Mercilus and J.J. Watt both went out tonight. facepalm I just heard the diagnosis for Watt but I don't know if that fracture is season ending.

[And I just tried to claim Texans D on waivers in FF for this upcoming week...]

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#2883975 - 10/08/17 08:20 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Markyboard]
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mad mad mad

Packers/ Cowboys - Hell of a battle today. Felt very familiar...for some reason sick

Congrats Geoff!

Thanks, Mark.

Aikman was right. The Cowboys left the Packers too much time when they scored with 1:11 remaining. Even so, I breathed a sigh of relief when it was finally over. Great game by Dallas today.

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#2884212 - 10/10/17 08:08 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Giants are done, fork please. Beckham's injury looked serious. Man, it's going to be a long season.

Brandon Marshall too. And Dwayne Harris.

Yikes. Can't say I've ever seen a WR corps for a single team get so badly hit so fast.

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#2884231 - 10/10/17 09:32 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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For the Giants' WR corps, and the Texans D on the same weekend with both Watt and Mercilus out for the season (and Cushing still on suspension). Like Al or Cris said Sunday night, just when the Texans get their offense together...

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Originally Posted By: antimatter
Giants are done, fork please. Beckham's injury looked serious. Man, it's going to be a long season.

Brandon Marshall too. And Dwayne Harris.

Yikes. Can't say I've ever seen a WR corps for a single team get so badly hit so fast.

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The closest I can think of is in college a couple of seasons ago when two Terp receivers broke their legs similarly in the same game.


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#2884248 - 10/10/17 10:49 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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All you fans of playoff and Super Bowl contenders griping about how your seasons are "done". After only week 5. I'd bet not.
I'll see your First World/NFL elite team problems and raise them with my beloved Cleveland Browns. I just want to see us win a game. Or catch a ball. Or make a field goal. Or....

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#2884269 - 10/10/17 11:51 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: kpl1228]
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Sure, it's technically possible that an 0-5 team that's decimated by season-ending injuries to some of its best players could win out, make the playoffs, and win the Super Bowl; but does a single one of us here think it will happen?

Nonetheless, it's just one season; and the Giants could eventually benefit from the draft choices they'll get as a result of this year. On the other hand, Cleveland has seemed to be the most hopeless team in the league for a long time—regardless of draft picks. You have my sympathy, kpl1228.

That said, at least the Browns have a storied past to be proud of. That's more than can be said for the Saints and the Buccaneers awful teams of old before they finally cured their losing ways. And just like those franchises, the Browns will eventually leave the cellar and even probably win a championship again. In the meantime, Cleveland has the success of the Cavaliers and Indians to enjoy.

(And for that matter, New York has the revived Yankees to enjoy. Game Five of their ALDS should be exciting.)

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#2884283 - 10/10/17 12:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Sure, it's technically possible that an 0-5 team that's decimated by season-ending injuries to some of its best players could win out, make the playoffs, and win the Super Bowl; but does a single one of us here think it will happen?


Correct, Geoff. Reality and mathematical probabilities are far apart in this particular situation.
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#2884400 - 10/11/17 08:57 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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#2884431 - 10/11/17 10:56 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Deshaun Watson already rising up Texans' career passing charts

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Granted, the Texans only are in their 16th year of existence, but the team has used 15 different starters at quarterback.

As soon as Watson entered the game as a starter, he was tied with Tom Savage and Dave Ragone as Texans starting quarterbacks without a touchdown pass. Of course, it didn't take him long to rocket past them, and the likes of Matt Leinart, Brandon Weeden, Ryan Mallett, Tony Banks and T.J. Yates.

With his five touchdown passes in Sunday's loss to the Chiefs, he moved past Case Keenum - who played in 10 games with the Texans - with 12 career touchdowns in five games.

He could surpass Brock Osweiler's 15-touchdown effort from a year ago with one more good game and eventually settle in at No. 3 all-time after his rookie season.

He also already ranks fourth all-time on the franchise's list of rushing yards for a quarterback. Watson has rushed for 179 yards and two touchdowns. Only David Carr (1,235 and 8 TDs), Matt Schaub (229 and 4 TDs) and Ryan Fitzpatrick (184 and 2 TDs) have done better.

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#2884478 - 10/11/17 01:34 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Good god make it please stop now......
It's like a bad NFL version of Groundhog Day.

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#2884718 - 10/12/17 08:50 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: kpl1228]
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LOL!

I have to admit, the Browns are in a vicious circle. Eventually, Bill Murray will get it right though.



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#2884719 - 10/12/17 08:53 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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It's a pity their great defense is decimated just when they finally get a talented quarterback.

But when the Texans' defense is healed, watch out!

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#2884720 - 10/12/17 08:54 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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How about those Eagles? It looks like they're finally getting a breakout season. thu

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#2884721 - 10/12/17 08:54 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Wait - the Eagles have the best record in the NFC? How is that possible? idk

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#2884723 - 10/12/17 09:14 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Maybe because they got to play first this week? wink

(The Packers could join them at 5-1 on Sunday.)

Whether Green Bay matches the Eagles' record or not, Philadelphia looked great against the third team that ended last week at 4-1. Congrats on Philly's win tonight, Dave. cool

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#2885182 - 10/15/17 01:30 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Rats!

Aaron Rodgers suffers broken collarbone, could miss rest of season, team says

The last time this happened, Rodgers was out for nine weeks; so it's not quite season over yet. I hope all goes smoothly during his healing process.

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#2885198 - 10/15/17 03:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Bears suck. Again. But their rookie QB, whom I'm glad they are playing in place of Glennon, looks promising, while of course making green rookie mistakes.

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#2885351 - 10/16/17 12:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: KenElevenShadows]
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At least the Bears beat the Ravens. With injuries plaguing the Packers and Vikings and the Lions allowing 52 points yesterday, I wouldn't write off the Bears just yet. They're only two games out of first with 10 games left to go.

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#2885352 - 10/16/17 12:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The media is in typical overdrive in reaction to Aaron Rodgers's injury. They're saying Rodgers is the best quarterback in the history of the game and it spells disaster for the Packers to lose him—especially considering how decimated the rest of the team already is.

Granted, the rest of the team is decimated and Aaron Rodgers is a great quarterback; but as a fan of both Rodgers and Brett Favre, I'm reminded that it is possible for a great quarterback to follow another great quarterback. Dak Prescott did a great job taking over for Tony Romo last year as well.

Most media pundits acknowledge—and then quickly dismiss—how well Brett Hundley performed during the preseason; and of course, preseason isn't much of an indicator of the season ahead, but it does show us at least that Hundley knows the Packers' system.

Patience is the only way to see what we have in Brett Hundley as a quarterback. I'm rooting for Brett and content to see how it plays out. In fact, I feel something of a common bond with Brett in that he grew up next door to the town where I spent the bulk of my childhood, he spent his college years in the community where I spent most of my adult life, and he's playing professionally in the state where I lived during my favorite year of my childhood.

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That Chiefs deflection touchdown was pretty amusing to watch just now.

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#2886259 - 10/20/17 08:44 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Congrats to Dave on the Raiders' come from behind win last night. cool

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#2886478 - 10/22/17 01:08 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Well, at least the Packers led the Saints for over half of the game. It's going to be a tough road ahead without Rodgers and an overall decimated team, but there's still reason for hope.

The Rams on the other hand are full speed ahead routing the Cardinals 33-0, even though Arizona looked reenergized last week after the addition of Adrian Peterson.

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#2886487 - 10/22/17 01:50 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Congrats to Dave on the Raiders' come from behind win last night. cool

Thx!

That was unreal. I was at AES, almost asleep about halfway through the 4th quarter when I was pleasantly reminded of how much I hate watching sports on the East Coast. I was up until well after 2...

Under the circimstances, I don't mind. Never seen an ending like that.

Sorry about Rodgers...but yeah - how 'bout dem Rams?

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#2886523 - 10/22/17 04:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Thanks, Dave. Yeah, it's a good thing I like the Rams again!

Chargers send Broncos to 1st shutout loss in 25 years, 21-0 facepalm

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#2887871 - 10/31/17 07:28 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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How about these trades? Kind of like the trade deadline in MLB.

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#2887888 - 10/31/17 10:07 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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My focus has been on the World Series (Go Dodger Blue!)—especially with the Packers and Rams on a bye—so I missed all the activity. Thanks for pointing it out, antimatter!

The Jimmy Garoppolo to 49ers trade is especially surprising as he looked to be the heir apparent in New England.

All the Jimmy Garoppolo trade dominoes, and who's affected

Maybe Dave will weigh in on the Jay Ajayi trade.

Dolphins trade RB Jay Ajayi to Eagles for fourth-round pick

I wonder what else will happen before the deadline this afternoon.

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#2888286 - 11/02/17 12:22 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Not much of a surprise:

Colts put Andrew Luck on IR. He's out for the season.

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#2888310 - 11/02/17 03:02 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Not much of a surprise:

Colts put Andrew Luck on IR. He's out for the season.

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So is Deshaun Watson frown

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#2888318 - 11/02/17 03:44 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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Wow! My condolences, Joe.

I hope he heals fully and quickly.

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#2888319 - 11/02/17 03:56 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Dang that really sucks. Last week’s game, Houston at Seattle, was a classic. The kid was killing it. I hope he comes back strong. ACL injuries are just bizarre.

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#2888369 - 11/03/17 02:41 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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The Texans are pretty decimated at this point. Combining Deshaun's injury with the losses of the key defensive players, they seem back to little hope for a deep run. IIRC, Savage wasn't throwing much to Hopkins for some reason, so if I'm right about that, it's almost like he's not there, either.

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#2888700 - 11/05/17 12:14 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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The Rams/Giants and Broncos/Eagles games are following almost the same blueprints today, except my second favorite team is on the winning end in the first contest and my third favorite is on the losing end of the second.

I wonder whether we'll see a Rams/Eagles NFC Championship game this year...

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#2888740 - 11/05/17 07:36 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I wonder whether we'll see a Rams/Eagles NFC Championship game this year...

It's possible but I wouldn't bet on it right now. League parity is such that a few NFC teams could play spoiler during the playoffs.cool
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#2888743 - 11/05/17 08:40 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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No doubt. And of course the injury factor—which has run especially rampant this year—could even further alter the playoff picture.

That said, a Rams/Eagles NFC Championship game is something I never would have considered before the season began; and yet it doesn't seem far-fetched at all now.

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#2888892 - 11/06/17 08:29 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Well, at least young Brett seems to command a good hurry up offense. That’s a start anyway...

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#2889266 - 11/08/17 07:22 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2889467 - 11/10/17 12:51 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Wow! Another superstar goes down!

Seahawks CB Richard Sherman out for season after rupturing Achilles

We've lost arguably the best quarterback in the league, the probable rookie of the year, the best receiver, and the best defensive players. Can anyone here remember a season like this?

I can't remember seeing so many replacements since the last strike season.

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#2889550 - 11/10/17 09:22 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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I really enjoy watching football, but it's weighing harder and harder on me. What would this guy have been like without the CTE?

Aaron Hernandez suffered from most severe CTE ever found in a person his age

Closer to home, we recently lost a friend who was in his early 50s. The last few years, he started drinking heavily and basically ended up with some form of dementia and spent the last couple of years in an assisted living facility. Before he went in they took him in for an MRI. The tech thought he was over 80. At his memorial service, we found out he played football as a kid. He was an intelligent guy with a law degree, but he was always a bit goofy. I think it was the football playing. frown

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#2889588 - 11/10/17 11:55 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
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I share your reaction, Joe. As for the injuries that have ended the seasons so many players this year, it's easy—and truthful—to say that they knew what they were getting themselves into. But with CTE, that's not the case.

With the NBA season beginning early this year and the MBL postseason extending, as usual, well into the NFL season, we were recently given an opportunity to compare and contrast all three sports at once. As I watched the World Series, I was struck by how rarely games are stopped to address an injury in baseball, because there are so few!

In contrast, it's rare to have any football game go by without some sort of damage. And despite safety precautions, the injuries only seem to be increasing. As for CTE, it's much harder to gauge the results of the precautions that are now being taken; but even if the incidents are being reduced, I can't imagine that the risk is being eliminated.

I think we're going to see dramatic changes to the sport of football in coming years; or barring that, I think the popularity of the game will decline—perhaps steeply. As for now, watching the sport has become a more guilty pleasure.

Considering how much participation in NFL threads has declined at this site, perhaps others here are sharing the same concerns.

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#2889628 - 11/10/17 02:00 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Bob Costas on the future of football: 'This game destroys people's brains'

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Speaking at a roundtable discussion at the University of Maryland, Costas, who hosted Football Night in America on NBC for more than a decade, said the sport could collapse over time, barring a development in technology to make it reasonably safe. He said the decline of football, which was once “a cash machine,” is the most significant story in American sports.

“The cracks in the foundation are there,” Costas said. “The day-to-day issues, as serious as they may be, they may come and go. But you cannot change the nature of the game. I certainly would not let, if I had an athletically gifted 12- or 13-year-old son, I would not let him play football.”


I imagine this is one reason interest and participation is down. Another are the injuries you mention. If Aaron Rodgers or JJ Watt are your favorite player, or Deshaun Watson caught your eye, your season is over.

Another reason is probably political and we won't get into that here, thankfully.

Then there's this, from the same article.

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Wilbon said football also lacks the international appeal of sports such as basketball and soccer, in part because it has sought to control its personalities.

"Football wants to distance itself and put a moat between itself and its fan base. It doesn't want to talk to them," Wilbon said. "'Well, Tom Brady's available on Tuesdays to talk.' Well, LeBron (James) is available every damn day. He's available every day on Instagram, on Twitter, on whatever it is. And it's not filtered."


That's been one of my beefs with the NFL. Remember the "Emmitt Smith Rule"? While in certain cases I could understand that, the whole thing where they seemed to want to prevent us from knowing who these guys are is stupid.

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#2889636 - 11/10/17 02:46 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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That said, a Rams/Eagles NFC Championship game is something I never would have considered before the season began; and yet it doesn't seem far-fetched at all now.

Get this - I bought a pair of Eagles/Rams tix before the season started for not much $ (just over $100 a piece), because who thought it was gonna be a decent game? I was just psyched to go to a game with my son, and the Raiders tickets we usually get were stupidly expensive this year. Rams - not so much...and no plane flight!

I have Saints/Rams tix, too. 40 yard line. Again, not much money - a bit more than the other set.

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#2889638 - 11/10/17 02:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Sweet! I look forward to hearing about your experiences at the games, Dave. cool

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#2889953 - 11/12/17 03:50 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Folks who choose to play American Football have always known the risk of injury is pretty high and sometimes severe.

Still, there are many boys and men who play anyway. I hope the one sport I love doesn't get even more watered down and/or becomes extinct.

Surely, I would play more Madden and/or find something else to watch in the place of football but it wouldnt be the same.

I'm all for making the game safer from a technological perspective but the rule changes and constant press on CTE seems like an assault on a man's game. cool
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#2889956 - 11/12/17 04:02 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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The Packers finally won one without Aaron Rodgers. Facing the Bears, it was one they should have won if Brett Hundley was to stand a chance of helping them reach the playoffs.

Looking ahead at their schedule, they ought to win at least three more before the end of the regular season. If they can do just one better than that, they might be able to squeak into a Wild Card slot by the time Rodgers recovers enough to play. (I'm presuming he might be well enough by January, but I realize there are no guarantees.)

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