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#2835198 - 02/12/17 09:49 AM Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread
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It's been a week since Super Bowl LI, and it's time to start a new NFL football thread.

Here are this weekend's top stories:

Destination Romo: All the places Tony could go

Is buzz surrounding Bears and Jimmy Garoppolo real?

Raiders President Marc Badain says financing for Las Vegas stadium won't be an issue

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#2835199 - 02/12/17 09:50 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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And of course:



GO PACKERS!!! thu

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#2835253 - 02/12/17 02:58 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Well, regardless where the Raiders end up playing football in the future, they have locked up HC Jack Del Rio with a new four (4) year contract. cool
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#2835280 - 02/12/17 04:15 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal? It's an interesting situation there.

Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.

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#2835285 - 02/12/17 04:57 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Originally Posted By: antimatter
ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal? It's an interesting situation there.

Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.

Yes I do. thu

If Philip Rivers became available I might feel differently. laugh

Seriously, the QB market is not that great.

While Cousins makes mistakes at the worst time, IMO, poor coaching decisions have put him in some of those situations.

Cousins has proven to be a solid QB. I believe he'll be even better with a sense of job security and more experience under his belt.

I'll give my 2 cents to the question posed to Geoff...

I think teams should learn from that Osweiler deal. It does not make sense to throw a bag of gold at an unproven backup QB.

A few years ago, Seattle picked up Flynn for less money than Brock got but Flynn was beat out in training camp by their current all-Pro, SB champion, starting QB.

Neither Matt Cassel nor Ryan Mallett has set the NFL on fire after leaving New England. Garrapolo might be good but we haven't seen enough of him yet.

Unless a team is desperate at QB and/or has a tremendous offensive line, it doesn't make sense to throw money at Romo either. I believe he only has 1 or 2 years of football left in his tank. cool
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#2835295 - 02/12/17 06:14 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Originally Posted By: ProfD
Originally Posted By: antimatter
ProfD- should the Skins sign Kirk Cousins to a multi year deal?

Yes I do. thu


Agreed. Cousins is very good, not great, but right now there isn't a better option. What should they do, trade him for a few draft picks and start Colt McCoy? I think not.
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#2835337 - 02/13/17 12:58 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Originally Posted By: antimatter
Geoff, Garoppolo is another interesting story. Brady hasn't shown a breakdown in skills, so the window is closing on this guy, fast. But how good is he? How much will a team risk? Houston paid big bucks for Osweiler, so teams will or should be hesitant. I'd take the gamble, more than I would on Romo.

ProfD made a very strong case against overspending on a backup quarterback. CEB seems to have a lot of faith in Garoppolo. I'll be interested in his opinion as well.

As for me, I haven't seen enough yet to say whether Garoppolo's the answer; but I've seen enough of Jay Cutler—both on the Broncos and Bears—to understand why the Bears might think he's a problem that needs solving. I agree that Garoppolo's probably a better gamble than Romo at this point. Romo's probably a better fit for a team that has peaked and only needs an experienced, high-calibre quarterback to take them the rest of the way—like Peyton Manning did with the Broncos.

It'll be fun to watch it all play out.

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#2835449 - 02/13/17 02:27 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Matt Schaub
Brian Hoyer
Ryan Mallett
Brock Osweiler

What do these guys all have in common? They were all acquired by the Houston Texans to be the starter after being a backup QB somewhere else. facepalm

Bless their hearts, they are trying to find a diamond in the rough, but jeez, this has gotten the Texans nowhere for a while now. They can only hope the offensive coaching changes they've made will work for Brock, but I'm not holding my breath.

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#2835454 - 02/13/17 02:49 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Agreed. Cousins is very good, not great, but right now there isn't a better option. What should they do, trade him for a few draft picks and start Colt McCoy? I think not.

I believe the Skins used their franchise tag on Cousins last season. So, I think they have to make a deal or let him walk. I'm not sure they're in a position to get anything in trade.

Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Matt Schaub
Brian Hoyer
Ryan Mallett
Brock Osweiler

What do these guys all have in common? They were all acquired by the Houston Texans to be the starter after being a backup QB somewhere else. facepalm

Bless their hearts, they are trying to find a diamond in the rough, but jeez, this has gotten the Texans nowhere for a while now. They can only hope the offensive coaching changes they've made will work for Brock, but I'm not holding my breath.

If the Skins do not keep Cousins, they end up on this type of QB carousel. The diamond in the rough is a college kid. That's a 2-3 year development program.

IMO, McCoy is s decent backup QB but not a long-term solution. The Skins have to keep Cousins or bring in a veteran like Cutler, Romo or Kaepernick. sick laugh cool


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#2840657 - 03/09/17 03:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.
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#2840661 - 03/09/17 03:18 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.
He had better be - otherwise they have even less at QB than they did. And no, I don't want Smokin' Jay Cutler.

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#2840663 - 03/09/17 03:24 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.


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#2840674 - 03/09/17 04:45 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Bears Suck.

F*** It!

Go Raiders.


Edited by CEB (03/09/17 04:46 PM)
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#2840886 - 03/10/17 06:18 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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once again, Redskins organization completely dysfunctional.
Embarrassing. facepalm
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#2840930 - 03/11/17 12:26 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: davedoerfler]
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Rare free agency move for Green Bay:

Former Patriots TE Martellus Bennett signs with Packers

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#2840931 - 03/11/17 12:28 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Houston Texans trade Brock Osweiler to Cleveland Browns.
Guess we now know where Tony Romo is headed.


Denver

Or maybe this:

Fox interested in having Tony Romo in booth as analyst, sources say

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#2841218 - 03/12/17 06:06 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Rats:

T.J. Lang signs three-year deal with Lions

Oh well, I'm happy for Lang to get to return to his home state of Michigan to play for the team he probably rooted for as a child. I hope the Packers can find suitable linemen. Lang is the second starter they've lost during this offseason. (Center JC Tretter was the first.)

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#2841412 - 03/13/17 01:08 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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#2841420 - 03/13/17 01:29 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Big loss for the Broncos on defense:

DeMarcus Ware, 8th all-time in sacks, announces retirement

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#2841479 - 03/13/17 06:09 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Rare free agency move for Green Bay:

Former Patriots TE Martellus Bennett signs with Packers

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This was a good sign. Bennett was good on the Giants, not utilized well on the Bears, and had some bright moments on the Pats. I think Rodgers will like having this big target in the end zone.

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#2841481 - 03/13/17 06:11 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
Big loss for the Broncos on defense:

DeMarcus Ware, 8th all-time in sacks, announces retirement

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Here is a guy I think has been around forever, but is oh too young. NFL- not for long. frown

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#2841999 - 03/15/17 03:31 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: antimatter]
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Sad but true. Ware reportedly turned down $9 million to retire.

I hope you're right about Bennett, antimatter.

In the meantime, the Packers have some big holes to fill:

Eddie Lacy is Seahawks' latest gamble to replace Marshawn Lynch

Julius Peppers: Set to rejoin Carolina

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#2842077 - 03/15/17 09:37 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Well, the Skins fire the GM and lose Garcon and D-Jax to free agency. They must be counting on the young WRs (Crowder, Grant and Doctson) and addition of Pryor to help Cousins. cool
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#2842288 - 03/16/17 04:09 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: ProfD]
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Raiders have added Cordarelle Patterson and Jared Cook. I can live with that. Wouldn't mind seeing another RB, either in the draft or via free agency.

Vikings got Latavuis Murray. I'm okay with that, too...

Eagles with Alshon Jeffery on one side and Torrey Smith on the other. Also interesting. Sure, Smith is a one trick pony (the long ball), but it's a gooooood trick.

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#2844170 - 03/23/17 11:48 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2844389 - 03/24/17 07:32 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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Good thing I don't hang out on this thread. Full-on Pats fan for the last 20 years. It hasn't been bad smile

The rest of you are wannabees ...
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#2844393 - 03/24/17 07:51 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: cphollis]
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Originally Posted By: cphollis
Good thing I don't hang out on this thread. Full-on Pats fan for the last 20 years. It hasn't been bad smile

The rest of you are wannabees ...

Nonsense. Very few of us wanna be Pats fans. idea facepalmpoke hitt

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#2844395 - 03/24/17 08:02 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Raiders have added Cordarelle Patterson and Jared Cook. I can live with that. Wouldn't mind seeing another RB, either in the draft or via free agency.

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#2845010 - 03/27/17 04:12 PM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: tucktronix]
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Speaking of the Raiders...

Owners vote 31-1 to OK Raiders move; Dolphins vote against

The Raiders will still play in Oakland in 2017, and possibly longer.

I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed. I doubt it's a good idea to plant a team into the capitol of organized gambling.

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#2845525 - 03/29/17 11:02 AM Re: Official NFL 2017-2018 Thread [Re: Geoff Grace]
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What you need to know about NFL's new rules for 2017

No more leaping over the line of scrimmage to block extra point attempts or field goal attempts, for one thing.

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