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#2842451 - 03/17/17 10:35 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: brooster1]
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I'm not one to normally gripe, but man those videos are utterly worthless.

Awkward camera angle, distracting background music, no voice-over... am I the only one with this assessment?

I hope I'm not alone with wishing manufacturers would figure out that we can learn the basics on our own, but some in-depth "how to" videos with proper camera angles would be huge. I miss Formidoni doing those Kronos Webcasts.

Gripe over...
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#2842470 - 03/17/17 11:14 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Spotting Jonah]
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You are not alone at all! I echo every one of your sentiments as I sit here and watch these videos. They are really very poorly done, and that music, could they not just have silence between showing us these various functions, especially when some of the functions are the sounds of the keyboard?! One thing that concerns me here that I also read about in the manual, is that only four internal sounds can be layered at once. It's possible that's not correct, but that is how the manual reads, and that is what is shown here. I will know by Friday!

I will do a full review, with video if possible but most definitely with sound cloud example links and post it both here and in the Piano forums.

Cheers!
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#2842513 - 03/17/17 02:24 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: brooster1]
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I love Rolands in a lot of ways I really do...but their digital piano sounds have always posed a problem for me EQ-wise live in various ambiences....love to take the 2000 to a gig for a night's test drive....I'd know right away if they got that right (for my taste)..Yamahas were always more predictable EQ wise for me and pretty consistent room to room after a few EQ adjustments. Pretty much after the first tune or two I'd know what I'd get out of a Yamaha for the gig....even If I liked aspects of the Roland sound better....they posed a problem for me that way...one tune they's sound OK the next tune the EQ would be driving me crazy with what I heard or didn't hear!

GC here on LI has an RD-800 for rental up on the wall....wonder if they will replace it with a 2000?


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#2842524 - 03/17/17 03:57 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Macsaint777]
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No, there are up to 8 internal parts in a Program, formerly called a Live Set. The 4 is reference to the number of Mod/Tremolo/Amp effects blocks. Only zone/parts 1-4 can use those, and V-Piano engine structure does not allow them. V-Piano can only be zone 1, so you only get to use mod/trem/amp inserts on parts 2-4 in that case. Really, only the SN EP/Clav/TW tones are programmed with mod FX, so the 4 mod effect limit is not a big deal. Got mine on pre-order too cool


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#2842544 - 03/17/17 07:19 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: xp50player]
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Originally Posted By: xp50player
No, there are up to 8 internal parts in a Program, formerly called a Live Set. The 4 is reference to the number of Mod/Tremolo/Amp effects blocks. Only zone/parts 1-4 can use those, and V-Piano engine structure does not allow them. V-Piano can only be zone 1, so you only get to use mod/trem/amp inserts on parts 2-4 in that case. Really, only the SN EP/Clav/TW tones are programmed with mod FX, so the 4 mod effect limit is not a big deal. Got mine on pre-order too cool


Good to know! I wondered about that, thanks for clearing it up! Congrats! Sweetwater says mine should be here in a week. I had an RD-800 and I know there is not a ton of change here, but I really miss my 88 keys!
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#2844520 - 03/25/17 02:36 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Macsaint777]
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^^^
Macsaint shared the non V-Piano, SuperNatural piano tones from the RD-2000 on soundcloud. Captured from the USB audio out to Mac and recorded into Logic - no other processing.

Mac, do you know what sample rate the USB audio RD-2000 to your Mac is running at? Do you feel these represent the sounds pretty well, or do they sound different from the analog outs and and/or headphone jack on the RD-2000?

https://soundcloud.com/macsaint777/sets/roland-rd-2000-all-non-v-piano-piano-sounds
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#2844529 - 03/25/17 03:23 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
^^^
Macsaint shared the non V-Piano, SuperNatural piano tones from the RD-2000 on soundcloud. Captured from the USB audio out to Mac and recorded into Logic - no other processing.

Mac, do you know what sample rate the USB audio RD-2000 to your Mac is running at? Do you feel these represent the sounds pretty well, or do they sound different from the analog outs and and/or headphone jack on the RD-2000?

https://soundcloud.com/macsaint777/sets/roland-rd-2000-all-non-v-piano-piano-sounds



ElmerJFudd, the RD-2000 runs native at 192kHZ/24 bit. I think the USB interface sounds identical to what I hear on my monitors and headphones normally with the RD-2000. It has a very clean sound, bright and punchy with a noticeable improvement over the RD-800. I just finished recording examples of all the Pads from the keyboard for another interested party and I I felt the final product was good. I will be leaving my Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre at home and using the RD-2000 as my interface with Omnisphere and my other plugins from here on. I am very very pleased.
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#2844536 - 03/25/17 03:59 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Macsaint777]
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Change your signature!! smile Congratulations!!!!

Mine arrives Tuesday... can't wait!!
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#2844537 - 03/25/17 04:07 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Spotting Jonah]
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Originally Posted By: Spotting Jonah
Change your signature!! smile Congratulations!!!!

Mine arrives Tuesday... can't wait!!


Good for you and let us know the pros and cons.
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#2845793 - 03/30/17 12:31 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: bennyray]
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The 10 New piano sounds are from the beginning to 3:38 and the rest of the older sounds are from 3:42 to the end.
RD-2000 pianos sounds S01-S10(New) and 0001-0027

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#2845830 - 03/30/17 02:22 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: brooster1]
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Yes, and I've included a list of the sounds in the video description.
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#2845858 - 03/30/17 04:54 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Macsaint777]
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I haven't had much play time with the RD-2000 since getting it this week, but here's my initial thoughts -

- Build Quality is unquestionably solid... metal case, faders and buttons are fairly confident if not a tad small, but useful, overall great form and feel. I saw a short video of a guy having keybed quality issues from possible shipping abuse. Maybe that's why I only buy from a company that double boxes keys for shipping.

- PHA50 keybed is another winner in my book. Not much different in feel from the PHA4, but different enough to notice. Very solid!

- The sounds are great, being my first experience with the V-Piano stuff. Love the editing options... something for everyone it seems. Unfortunately, if you hate Roland's pianos in general then I doubt this will change your mind, but if you love them (like me) then it delivers... very pleased.

- The MIDI controller functionality is great... almost too intuitive. A few times I kept thinking there should be more steps to what I was trying to do... very simple.

I'll share more if more play time brings additional thoughts to mind worth mentioning.
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#2845890 - 03/30/17 07:37 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Spotting Jonah]
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#2846232 - 04/01/17 08:48 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: brooster1]
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Ah, why do I need to have so much GAS for this all of a sudden? hitt
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#2846569 - 04/03/17 04:25 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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#2846933 - 04/04/17 02:45 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: brooster1]
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I just bought the rd 2000 last Saturday and I'm trying to lock in the changes in the piano sound I'm making by going to edit than write, but it keeps on sending me to the jazz piano, what am I doing wrong if anyone can help.

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#2846938 - 04/04/17 03:23 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: pianomike]
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Originally Posted By: pianomike
I just bought the rd 2000 last Saturday and I'm trying to lock in the changes in the piano sound I'm making by going to edit than write, but it keeps on sending me to the jazz piano, what am I doing wrong if anyone can help.


Hey Mike, that is the Program at the top of the Programs list. Just go down to an empty one and save to that, or over-write Jazz Piano if you want. Let me know if you have trouble and I'll make a little video and upload it to YouTube!

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#2847031 - 04/05/17 03:11 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Macsaint777]
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Hi Mac, I tried the empty space and it still did not save it, is there a save button somewhere , thanks Mike.

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#2847033 - 04/05/17 03:29 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: pianomike]
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Mike, check out out the video I made explaining this. https://youtu.be/JbVTi9Nom8c
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#2847225 - 04/05/17 05:00 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Macsaint777]
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Today I was finally able to play an RD2000 (only very briefly), which was next to an FP80. I actually preferred the feel of the FP80. It's so subjective...
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#2847474 - 04/06/17 04:15 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: AnotherScott]
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Thanks for the video Mac, I found out what I was doing wrong. If anyone is interested I got a great deal at Guitar Center when I traded in my 10 year old roland 700 GX and my 6 year old Nord Ex for the Rd 2000,at the end of the deal I only had to pay 195$ and 133 dollars were taxes . You get ten percent off with a trade in.

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#2848186 - 04/09/17 04:46 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: pianomike]
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Jonathan Cain got his RD2000 and played it, as seen here, at his R&RHOF celebration party to benefit Make-A-Wish Foundation. It replaces his RD800.



Edited by EscapeRocks (04/09/17 04:49 PM)
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#2848188 - 04/09/17 05:01 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Jonathan Cain got his RD2000 and played it, as seen here, at his R&RHOF celebration party to benefit Make-A-Wish Foundation. It replaces his RD800.



Did you order yours yet? smile

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#2848189 - 04/09/17 05:05 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Awesome product placement this week for a Roland artist - if he's not an active Roland artist, what a missed opportunity! wink joking.

I wonder if he still gets a thrill to sit at something new after all these years. Maybe so. Most here still do - even if it's just on a showroom floor.
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#2848211 - 04/09/17 06:19 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd

I wonder if he still gets a thrill to sit at something new after all these years. Maybe so. Most here still do - even if it's just on a showroom floor.


He does.

Originally Posted By: eric


Did you order yours yet? smile


wink no. My FA08 is just fine for my needs.
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#2848732 - 04/11/17 06:56 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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The most disappointing thing this year at a Musik exhibition was the Roland RD-2000 at NAMM 2017.

Roland took the OLD TECH from their previous-previous semi-supernatural RD's and NX's along with the PHA 1, 2, 3, 4 etc and threw in the new -old ?V-Piano? then put some racing strips on the sides to pretend that it is souped up. Souped up? More like re-heated Mulligan Stew.
What I was hoping for was an Integra 88 with an improved keyboard action.
The lineage of the Integra 7 is the Jupter-80 - not re-hashed mulligans!

When you get right down to it pianos are just 88 key drums.

P.S. "Shhh. Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wabbits"


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#2848734 - 04/11/17 06:59 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Jonathan Cain got his RD2000 and played it, as seen here, at his R&RHOF celebration party to benefit Make-A-Wish Foundation. It replaces his RD800.



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#2848792 - 04/12/17 04:51 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: brooster1]
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#2848901 - 04/12/17 10:40 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: George88]
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Originally Posted By: George88
I'll bite: "What?"


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#2848902 - 04/12/17 10:44 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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Had a play on one today. Was nice, though nothing special. Many of the same PCM sounds in my RD700. Piano didn't sound that much different, though it was probably the cans the shop used.

Sliders were nice. Overall it was very much a "Roland" stage piano; Big, heavy, decent sounds, though not my cuppa tea.


Edited by Nadroj (04/12/17 10:50 AM)
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