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#2829201 - 01/18/17 05:04 PM Roland RD-2000
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Roland RD-2000
https://www.roland.com/global/products/rd-2000/



Standard Features

Next-generation RD stage piano with two independent sound engines and modern controller features
Dedicated acoustic piano sound engine with the latest Roland advancements provides authentic, richly detail tone with full polyphony
Second SuperNATURAL-based sound engine with 128-voice polyphony for electric pianos and additional sounds (compatible with RD-800 Live Sets)
Eight knobs with LED status indicators and nine sliders for real-time control of sounds and effects
Eight fully assignable zones for combining internal sounds and external sources (including software instruments)
PHA-50 keyboard features hybrid wood and molded construction for premium touch and lasting durability
Classic electric pianos on board, including Roland’s legendary RD-1000 and MKS-20
Recreations of vintage analog effects, including the BOSS CE-1 Chorus, Roland Dimension D, and more
Over 1100 non-piano sounds, including organs, strings, brass, synths, and many others
Two wave expansion slots for loading additional sounds from Roland’s Axial website, including sounds from previous RD-series pianos
100 Scene memories for saving and recalling setups with one touch
Traditional Roland pitch/mod lever and two assignable wheel controllers
24-bit/192 kHz USB audio/MIDI interface

Tech Specs
KEYBOARD SECTIONKeyboardPHA-50 Keyboard: Wood and Plastic Hybrid Structure, with Escapement and Ebony/Ivory Feel (88 keys)SOUND GENERATOR SECTIONSound Generator2x Independent Sound Engines
Sound Engine1: V-Piano Technology
Sound Engine2: SuperNATURAL
SuperNATURAL Piano
SuperNATURAL (E.Piano, Clav)
Virtual Tone Wheel Organ
PCM Sound GeneratorMax. PolyphonyV-Piano Technology Sound Engine: Full Polyphony
SuperNATURAL Sound Engine: 128 voicesParts16 parts (Max 8 parts are used in the PROGRAM)Tones1,100 tones OverProgram300Scene100EffectsModulation FX: 4 systems, 62 types
Tremolo/Amp Simulator: 4 systems, 6 types
Reverb: 6 types
Delay: 5 types
Sympathetic Resonance (Only for SuperNATURAL Piano)
3-band Compressor
5-band Digital EqualizerAUDIO FILE PLAYERFile FormatAudio Files (WAV format, 44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear)RECORDER SECTIONFile FormatAudio Files (WAV format, 44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear)External Storage DeviceUSB flash drive (supports USB 2.0 Hi-Speed flash memory)OTHERRhythm Pattern200 patternsControllersSlider x 9 (with illumination)
Knobs x 8 (with illumination)
Pitch Bend/Modulation lever
Modulation Wheel x 2DisplayGraphic LCD 256 x 80 dotsConnectorsMAIN OUT (L/MONO, R) jacks: 1/4-inch phone type
MAIN OUT (L, R) jacks: XLR type
SUB OUT (L, R) jacks:1/4-inch phone type
NPUT jack: Stereo miniature phone type
Pedal (DAMPER, FC1, FC2, EXT) jacks: TRS phone type
MIDI (IN, OUT1, THRU/OUT2) connectors
USB (COMPUTER) port: USB type B
USB (MEMORY) port: USB type A
PHONES jack: Stereo 1/4 inch phone type
AC In jackNumber of USB Audio Record/Playback ChannelsSignal Processing: 24-bit
Sampling Rate: 192 kHz, 96 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 48 kHz, 44.1 kHz
Record: 2 channels
Playback: 2 channelsPower Consumption23 WAccessoriesOwner’s manual
Power cord
Damper pedal (capable of continuous detection)OptionsKeyboard stand: KS-G8B
Piano pedal: RPU-3
Damper pedal: DP-10
Pedal switch: DP-2
Expression pedal: EV-5
USB Flash MemorySIZE AND WEIGHTWidth1,412 mm
55-5/8 inchesDepth367 mm
14-1/2 inchesHeight140 mm
5-9/16 inchesWeight21.7 kg
47 lbs 14 oz
* Actual weight can vary slightly from that indicated due to the fact that wooden parts are involved.





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#2829212 - 01/18/17 05:38 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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demos show off that distinct Roland AP/EP sound.

I owned 3 different RD stage pianos over 12 yrs. My last Rd was the Rd700GX1.
when I had multiple boards/racks, the RD was an excellent midi controller.

They all had a great feeling piano keyboard. The organs were mostly useless but that was the only flaw I can think of

I see Roland has jumped on the sound engine bandwagon, in that they have 2 on this model.

With the Kronos arriving in 2011, I had little need for the Rd700GX1 and sold it. I still think highly of the Rd stage pianos.


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#2829214 - 01/18/17 05:41 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: GregC]
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Mod wheels!!!


Edited by George88 (01/18/17 05:43 PM)
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#2829216 - 01/18/17 05:42 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: George88]
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Looks serious. Hope to get my hands on it tomorrow.

It's cool they have included the RD-1000/MKS-20 sound. Shows how good that was for its time.

Prolly not gonna happen, but what if they made a 76-key version with aftertouch? drool
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#2829219 - 01/18/17 06:00 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: zephonic]
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I can't imagine a better instrument than my MP11, but I'll admit, this Roland has sex appeal... The design looks great.

I love the LED crowns on the knobs and sliders. And yes... It's got wheels, glorious wheels. thu
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#2829220 - 01/18/17 06:06 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Sundown]
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No D-Beam???? No likey! NEXT!!!!!!!!

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#2829221 - 01/18/17 06:10 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: zephonic]
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My .02: The piano sounds real good. I wish I knew how to get throught the Roland marketing buzzwords though. Does "V-Piano technology" mean actual modeling, the same as the V-piano? Or a cut-down version? Regardless, the piano sounds good to me listening to the u-tubes on headphones.

As a current owner of an MKS20 (which hasn't seen a volt in many a year), I'm not that enthralled that I can hear those sounds again – they were great for their time, but I can't see using the MKS's AP sound in anything I do now. The Rhodes had a certain charm to it but it sounds very "digital" to me now, and Roland didn't waste too much time abandoning S/A back in the 80s.

One plus is that I got introduced to Berenice Scott – never heard of her before this and no mention on this forum before now either. Very nice!

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#2829222 - 01/18/17 06:10 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: DulceLabs.com]
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Originally Posted By: DulceLabs.com
No D-Beam???? No likey! NEXT!!!!!!!!


LOL - LOVE d-beam on my stage pianos. wink

- ya ya, I know it does a lot more than pianos. smile

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It's interesting that they chose to use two engines - some derivative of the V-Piano for the piano sounds, and SuperNatural for everything else. Which suggests perhaps that they don't believe the SN pianos are the best Roland has to offer. Or - at least SuperNatural is an older buzz word and trickle down from V-Piano has more value. Not sure - but I believe this is what they are doing across their whole digital piano line - all their new stuff is using modeled, or perhaps sampled attacks and modeled sustains.

Given that this one and the FP-90 both have the PHA-50 action - which one of these would you go for? FP-90 is 52lbs 1oz ($1799), and this RD-2000 is 47lbs 14oz - price... eh, the RD-800 is $1999 - CP4 is $2299... so what's this 8 zone beast going to cost... $2199? $2399?
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#2829224 - 01/18/17 06:15 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: GregC]
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I see Roland has jumped on the sound engine bandwagon, in that they have 2 on this model.

In a way, I'm surprised they describe it has having merely 2. On some technical level, I'm sure that's correct. But from a marketing perspective and from a user experience perspective, I think you could justify saying it has more. Their distinction is V-Piano vs. SuperNatural, but SN includes, in a sense, multiple sound engines... i.e. the clonewheel is kind of its own animal, and arguably, the SN (at least partially modeled) acoustic sounds are something apart from the straight PCM sounds. But here's how they break it down:

Quote:
Sound Engine1: V-Piano Technology

Sound Engine2: SuperNATURAL
SuperNATURAL Piano
SuperNATURAL (E.Piano, Clav)
Virtual Tone Wheel Organ
PCM Sound Generator

Max. PolyphonyV-Piano Technology Sound Engine: Full Polyphony
SuperNATURAL Sound Engine: 128 voices
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#2829229 - 01/18/17 06:29 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: AnotherScott]
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Going after the Forte market - stage piano on steroids.

Looking at the pictures, there are 9 sliders with organ footings labelled underneath them.

It will be interesting to see how this is priced.
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#2829233 - 01/18/17 06:37 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Rusty Mike]
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Originally Posted By: Rusty Mike
Going after the Forte market - stage piano on steroids.

Looking at the pictures, there are 9 sliders with organ footings labelled underneath them.

It will be interesting to see how this is priced.


Hmmm, stick a Numa Compact 2 over it? Hmmm, what are options for an organ action controller to take advantage of them having stuck the SuperNatural organ engine in here with drawbar control on the faders? I wonder if it does upper and lower manual via MIDI? Worth a look at the manual...
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#2829235 - 01/18/17 06:48 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Reezekeys]
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Originally Posted By: Reezekeys
I wish I knew how to get throught the Roland marketing buzzwords though.


Boy, they've been doing that for years, but I never recognized it when I was younger.

Linear Arithmetic anyone?
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#2829236 - 01/18/17 06:51 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Obviously I'll take the interest andlisten to the demos on the Roland site, but hey for 2 CP4's it will have to be quite good. I can get the CP4 with my sounds to play along with a (original) V-Piano demo and not feel bad...

T.

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#2829261 - 01/18/17 09:15 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Theo Verelst]
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without going OT I don't believe anyone who owns a Yamaha CP4 is going to switch to a RD-2000, OK maybe someone will, but why? RD-200 will be a great keyboard. CP4 is a great keyboard. Good times. cool
disclaimer, I own a CP4.
BTW, Theo, good to see you posting again. thu
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#2829263 - 01/18/17 09:17 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Sundown]
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Linear Arithmetic anyone?


roll

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#2829268 - 01/18/17 10:24 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Rusty Mike]
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Originally Posted By: Rusty Mike
Going after the Forte market - stage piano on steroids.

Looking at the pictures, there are 9 sliders with organ footings labelled underneath them.

It will be interesting to see how this is priced.


Big sites showing $2499
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#2829272 - 01/18/17 11:21 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: zephonic]
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Originally Posted By: zephonic
Originally Posted By: Sundown

Linear Arithmetic anyone?


roll

I see your Linear Arithmetic, and raise you a Structured Adaptive.


Hahahaha. Salad day memories. Thanks.

(Looks good with all the sliders btw).
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#2829273 - 01/18/17 11:27 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: stillplaying]
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frown. I'm sure the rd-2000 will be great but I was really hoping for an update to the FA-06 with integra sounds and 16 layers.
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#2829275 - 01/18/17 11:33 PM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
without going OT I don't believe anyone who owns a Yamaha CP4 is going to switch to a RD-2000, OK maybe someone will, but why? RD-200 will be a great keyboard. CP4 is a great keyboard. Good times. cool
disclaimer, I own a CP4.


Agree. Mine certainly isn't going anywhere….except to the gig this weekend. smile Plus 10 extra pounds over the CP4 is…well 10 pounds. wink It seems so many guys I talk to these days - middle to late 40s, 50s and 60s and beyond - that 38 to 40 lb. range seems to be the max people want to deal with.

Like all Roland and Yamaha DPs, you have two distinct, different tonal characteristics. It's good to have choices.

The Myron McKinley short demo sounds really nice. A pretty dark tone he had there, which I really like. It's perfect for solo/duo, selected trio jazz contexts, along with solo classical and chamber ensembles. You wonder though how that particular sound would fare in a louder rock/pop/blues environment. Or even a more aggressive jazz context.

On the other hand, just guessing he played the particular sound Roland wanted demoed. I'm certain it has varying piano sounds for days, along with endless tweak-ability, so it can fit in any musical context. I'm sure it will be a winner for them.

Curious to experience the new action and how it connects with the sound. Going down tomorrow and hopefully will have a chance to get a general idea.

However I recall when the RD800 debuted , the headphones were so lame (along with the room ambient noise) you couldn't really get a true representation of the instrument. So….might have to wait for it to hit the GC and bring in my new Senn HD650s. thu

I would probably be more partial to the FP-90 (for home use only) because of the internal speakers.
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#2829280 - 01/19/17 01:32 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Rikismyname]
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My first reaction was a quiet WOWWOOHOO!
Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
frown. I'm sure the rd-2000 will be great but I was really hoping for an update to the FA-06 with integra sounds and 16 layers.
The FA does have 16 layers, doesn't it?
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#2829291 - 01/19/17 04:52 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: GregC
I see Roland has jumped on the sound engine bandwagon, in that they have 2 on this model.

In a way, I'm surprised they describe it has having merely 2. On some technical level, I'm sure that's correct. But from a marketing perspective and from a user experience perspective,
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A fair statement. I haven't noticed Roland missing an opportunity to play the marketing side of a product. The RD has a long history and if I needed a stage piano, I would not hesitate

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#2829298 - 01/19/17 05:09 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Dave Ferris]
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Plus 10 extra pounds over the CP4 is…well 10 pounds. wink It seems so many guys I talk to these days - middle to late 40s, 50s and 60s and beyond - that 38 to 40 lb. range seems to be the max people want to deal with.


Agree, after having an S90ES for many years as a bottom 88 and now the Stage 2 for a few years, I can't see going back to anything over 40 pounds. Almost as important for me: I won't go back to an 88 with the extra length required to have the controllers to the left of the keyboard. I realize that's not a universal sentiment though.
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#2829299 - 01/19/17 05:13 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: GregC]
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Only 100 store-able 'scenes'? No thanks.

Come on Roland (and others). Kurzweil gives me thousands of 'scenes', and I don't think it's a major feat of engineering/coding.

I love my RD-700GX, but I'm planning on ditching it soon for Kurz because I keep bumping against that 100 setup limit.

Putting that aside, though, this looks like a significant update to the RD line.

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#2829301 - 01/19/17 05:31 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: BluMunk]
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Only 100 store-able 'scenes'? No thanks.

Come on Roland (and others). Kurzweil gives me thousands of 'scenes', and I don't think it's a major feat of engineering/coding.

I love my RD-700GX, but I'm planning on ditching it soon for Kurz because I keep bumping against that 100 setup limit.

Putting that aside, though, this looks like a significant update to the RD line.


I recall the cool setup feature with the RD.

I don't recall- was there a step with a USB stick to add more setup file(s) ?

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#2829303 - 01/19/17 05:34 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: BluMunk]
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Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Only 100 store-able 'scenes'? No thanks.

Come on Roland (and others). Kurzweil gives me thousands of 'scenes', and I don't think it's a major feat of engineering/coding.

I love my RD-700GX, but I'm planning on ditching it soon for Kurz because I keep bumping against that 100 setup limit.

Putting that aside, though, this looks like a significant update to the RD line.


No doubt the Kurzweil's are super versatile and a lot of people are fine with the TP-40L for doing AP, EP, synth, orch, organ, etc. I just wish I loved it for pianos which I don't and that's a tough one. Much more inclined to see them do the Forte in some synth actions (a 73 or 76 would be great, 61 some could live with) and stick with a stage piano that has an action I do like for piano below.

Anyone had a go at a PHA-50? It's also on the FP-90 which I haven't seen in a shop yet either.
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#2829309 - 01/19/17 05:51 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: GregC]
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Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Only 100 store-able 'scenes'? No thanks.

Come on Roland (and others). Kurzweil gives me thousands of 'scenes', and I don't think it's a major feat of engineering/coding.

I love my RD-700GX, but I'm planning on ditching it soon for Kurz because I keep bumping against that 100 setup limit.

Putting that aside, though, this looks like a significant update to the RD line.


I recall the cool setup feature with the RD.

I don't recall- was there a step with a USB stick to add more setup file(s) ?


Yep, you can save and load them from USB. But, having half of a gig stored in a small USB stick makes me nervous. And it makes it almost impossible to do any re-ordering of setups, particularly if I'm set up on location without a computer.

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#2829311 - 01/19/17 05:53 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: BluMunk]
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#2829312 - 01/19/17 05:54 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: BluMunk]
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Roland hammer action has always been my favorite. The only hammer action I have right now is a Kronos 2 73. Gonna give this a serious look. I'd like to get back to a full 88.
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#2829316 - 01/19/17 06:01 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: RABid]
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The weight is still a killer for me.

I have an RD800 in my studio, and love the action and sound, but I'll never take it to a gig. I'm too spoiled by the weight of the Nord's.

Coming in at the same price the RD800 started at is a pretty competitive compared to the Forte. Whether you prefer the sound of the Roland of Kurzweil is completely subjective.

Overall, though, it's a nice movement forward in the RD series from Roland.
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#2829321 - 01/19/17 06:18 AM Re: Roland RD-2000 [Re: Rusty Mike]
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I'd love to have the Forte but it is hard to justify the price difference.
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