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#2825086 - 01/01/17 12:26 PM NAMM 2017 NEWS
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Alright, Geoff Grace, it's January 1, 2017. I've waited all I can waits, and I can't waits no more. wink

Korg Kronos LS - we should get a closer look at this beeotch for sure.


Viscount. In addition to the Physis H and K models I'm thinking they'll be showing their SMART line.
There's a SMART 20 and 30. Looks like attempt to be competitive with the Casio PX-160/360.
http://www.viscountinstruments.us/digital-pianos/smart.html

SMART Brochure


They'll also be showing the KeyB Legend.
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#2825088 - 01/01/17 12:32 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Some company called ZYLIA has a cancelling mic that let's you record a rehearsal/performance by plopping the one ZYLIA mic in the middle of the room and it will multitrack with separation.

http://zylia.co/index-1/



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#2825089 - 01/01/17 12:34 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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3DVarius - 3D Printed Violin

https://www.3d-varius.com

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#2825100 - 01/01/17 12:51 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Triad Orbit Advanced Stand Systems - iOrbit
http://www.triad-orbit.com

They've got a universal tablet/ipad stand holder. Looks well made, ball joint and serious clamp

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#2825106 - 01/01/17 01:01 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Dutchgrand LTD
"Dutchgrand is the No.1 producer of portable baby grand piano-shells."
http://dutchgrand.com/product/

I wonder if the VPC-1 fits in there?

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#2825111 - 01/01/17 01:10 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SKB has a new i series case design, lightweight and water proof.
iSeries Waterproof 88-Note Keyboard Case
Model: 3i-5616-KBD


https://www.skbcases.com/music/products/...p;c=90&s=76

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#2825114 - 01/01/17 01:14 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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64 Audio tia - Tubeless In-ear Audio system
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#2825127 - 01/01/17 02:03 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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good gear, thx Elmer smile

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#2825129 - 01/01/17 02:09 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Alright, Geoff Grace, it's January 1, 2017. I've waited all I can waits, and I can't waits no more. wink

LOL! You beat me to it by less than two hours. But no worries.

Traditionally, I've waited until the beginning of the week of the show to start the thread; but in recent years, manufacturers have leaked their announcements in advance of NAMM to create an Internet buzz. The question then becomes, "How far in advance of NAMM is an announcement still a NAMM announcement?" In my opinion, with the show still over two weeks away, the first of the month is the earliest I could justify starting a thread—especially since last month's announcements could validly be considered as holiday announcements.

No matter, Elmer. As your enthusiasm in this area rivals mine, it's just as fitting that you should start the thread. I'll simply add my traditional comments at this point and later post here as I would have in the thread I would have created.

Originally Posted By: Geoff Grace
As most of you know, this year's Winter NAMM Show will begin on Thursday, January 19th at the Anaheim Convention Center, and run through Sunday, the 22nd. As always, anticipation and speculation over product announcements is running high; and some product info has already been leaked or announced.

Please post your Winter NAMM 2017 reports here, for forum members who are not fortunate enough to go to the show.

Feel free to discuss NAMM announced gear, events, and performances in this thread.

I look forward to reading your posts, Elmer. cool

Best,

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#2825147 - 01/01/17 03:08 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Geoff Grace]
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There he is! It's great to see you, Geoff. And it is completely my honor to join you in this annual tradition.

Happy NAMM 2017! And may the gear be ever in our favor!

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#2825214 - 01/01/17 10:30 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Is it true the new Korg Kronos LS does not have aftertouch? If it does have aftertouch I am absolutely buying one. If it does not have aftertouch I’m gonna suck on the barrel of a gun.


Edited by seanl (01/01/17 10:35 PM)
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#2825243 - 01/02/17 06:43 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: seanl]
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That's what the Roland enthusiasts said about the Jupiter-50, and it was true anyway. wink
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#2825255 - 01/02/17 07:36 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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What's with the lack of aftertouch on some of these keyboards? Does it really save that much money to leave it out?

It's a deal killer. For example, the lack of aftertouch on the Kurzweil Artis lost them a sale. Speaking of Kurzweil, the lack of a semi-weighted keyboard and sequencer on the Kurzweil Forte lost them a sale as well.

This year I'd love to see a lighter weight Forte 7 with a semi-weighted (as on PC361) keyboard; 76 notes A to C range; with an improved (over PC3) sequencer that takes advantage of the better display and can do different time signatures and combine song sections.

Keep the shorter length with pitch/mod wheels over the keyboard.

For the cherry on top, add back the PC3's ribbon and breath controller inputs. Support _polyphonic_ aftertouch, loads of user sampling space and improve the UI, and I'll be sorely tempted to buy two.

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#2825261 - 01/02/17 08:06 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Meta]
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I am curious to know if Casio is going to use their current Celviano sample in an affordable portable any time soon.

I played the Celviano last year and it was radically different than the portable PX-5 or anything else they had. I know someday I will have a Casio... I just wonder if this is the year.

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#2825289 - 01/02/17 09:47 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: LX88]
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I would think the Roland Jupiter 80 is due for a refresh or replacement. But in this market it may no longer make sense for them to design expensive flagship synths.

If they were to come out with one, I'd be interested, but it would have to frigging brilliant to lure me away from my resolve to make 2017 the year of the laptop.
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#2825294 - 01/02/17 10:03 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Meta]
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Originally Posted By: Meta
What's with the lack of aftertouch on some of these keyboards?
many players prefer not to have aftertouch on 88 note weighted keyboards as they use them solely for AP's and Ep's. Even though aftertouch is not assigned to these sounds the keyboard dip that aftertouch requires is not welcomed.
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#2825309 - 01/02/17 10:48 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Meta]
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Originally Posted By: Meta
For example, the lack of aftertouch on the Kurzweil Artis lost them a sale. Speaking of Kurzweil, the lack of a semi-weighted keyboard and sequencer on the Kurzweil Forte lost them a sale as well.

This year I'd love to see a lighter weight Forte 7 with a semi-weighted (as on PC361) keyboard; 76 notes A to C range; with an improved (over PC3) sequencer that takes advantage of the better display and can do different time signatures and combine song sections.


I was set to buy a Jupiter 50 - "The Ultimate Performance Keyboard" - until I found it lacked Aftertouch. (insert *facepalm* here)

I also prefer 76 note keyboards over 73 note, but I like the traditional E-G range.


Does anyone know if there will be any new Arranger Keyboards or modules at NAMM? I'm particularly interested in a new version of the Roland BK7M or a rack version of the Korg PA4.
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#2825329 - 01/02/17 11:20 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Synthaholic]
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Uli Behringer himself has allegedly stated that there will be an “SD Direct Recording Card for our X32/M32 Series in the very near future”.

Thread on Music Group Forum

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#2825330 - 01/02/17 11:24 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Uli Behringer gives sneak peak at development of Behringer's drum machine focused on the sound of the 808/909 over at GearSlutz.

Quote:
Dear all,

first of all I like to wish you a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year.

Sometime in July this year I announced we are looking into developing analog as well digital drum machines. I thought I would now share with you aspects of the development process.

At this stage our main focus is on sound creation and for this purpose we resurrected the highly regarded 808 and 909 analog drum machines from the '80's.

Attached are the pics of the first evaluation boards that allow us to study and compare the sound of analog drum instruments. However, our intention is not to clone these products but to evaluate analog sound generation and add a great user interface and sequencer.

I can tell you that the team is having lots of fun listening to these drum sounds that greatly contributed to amazing music in the past. It is actually not surprising that people gravitate to analog sounds as it is the imperfection that evokes emotions. Perhaps it is the fact that we humans are analog, too:-)

While we are far away from releasing a finished product, we thought we would get you involved in this enjoyable design process.

As always we love to hear your opinions.

Uli Behringer
Chief Disruptor
MUSIC
www.music-group.com

Uli




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#2825623 - 01/03/17 06:34 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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NAMM 2017 will be the year of the blue Bluetooth® capable powered monitor.

KUGEL™ BLUETOOTH® SPEAKER
https://www.thonet-vander.com/us/products/speakers/bluetooth-speaker-kugel.php


TITAN™ / Bluetooth® Sound System


KOLOSS™ / Bluetooth® Sound System


Some of the usual suspects too:

Mackie Introduces High-Performance XR Series Studio Monitors
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#2825843 - 01/04/17 04:41 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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EXPERIENCE THE NAMM SHOW IN 360° VIRTUAL REALITY

"As a special thank you to our loyal Roland and BOSS Backstage* members, we’re sending a FREE pair of Roland VR (virtual reality) goggles to the first 1,000 signups. Use these goggles during the 2017 NAMM Show, January 18–22, 2017, for an immersive 3D video experience."

NAMM SHOW 360 VR

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#2825846 - 01/04/17 04:45 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Foot Controlled Mouse/Input Device
Booth 1074

http://www.smashmouseusa.com/index.html

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#2825847 - 01/04/17 04:49 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2825908 - 01/04/17 08:39 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I printed out my pass (really, my pass-to-get-my-pass) today, and will see you there. Who is going, and when?
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#2826167 - 01/05/17 06:17 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: MathOfInsects]
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Simple, Fast & Fun Approach For Learning Any Musicial Instrument
http://www.kinderkeys.co.uk

"Founded in 2015 and headquartered in Ireland, KinderKeys™ is a new unique & powerful alternative sheet music platform that enables both children and adults alike to learn a musical instrument. Developed by Digitek Global, KinderKeys is the fastest and most effective platform for music learning in the world. With the KinderKeys Instrument Series we provide the WORLDS FIRST COMPLETE step-by-step self-learning course from Beginners to Degree Level, customized to suit the very needs of children and adults beginning to play a musical instrument."

No idea what the course looks like for keys yet.
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#2826169 - 01/05/17 06:21 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Etymotic Research, Inc.
Music Pro


https://www.etymotic.com/consumer/hearing-protection/mp915.html

"The ultimate in hearing protection. Designed for musicians who want to hear naturally, need protection when hearing is at risk, and want to avoid the inconvenience of removing earplugs to hear.

Adaptive Noise Reduction: Music•PRO circuitry automatically changes output levels as sound input levels change. Hearing is natural, as if nothing is in the ears, until sound exceeds safe levels. As sound levels increase, earplugs gradually provide 9- or 15-dB sound reduction. Natural hearing is restored when sound returns to safe levels.

Advantages

Provides either 9-dB or 15-dB protection at the flip of a switch
Clear communication
Instantaneously protects from loud, percussive sounds (e.g., cymbal strike)
Enhances soft sounds if desired
Ready-fit eartips; custom molds are not required"


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#2826170 - 01/05/17 06:27 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Wind Wynder
http://www.windwynder.com/

The Wind Wynder is a device that clips on a music stand or a hard music folder. The clips open to accommodate even thick music stands and folders. The clear line enables a musician to cover all their issues with the wind, drafts, or new music parts that will not stay open.





Maybe 5, 10 years late with the advent of tablets for sheet music reading. But heck, if you still have gigs where you need sheets outdoors now and again...
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#2826171 - 01/05/17 06:32 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SKB case for QSC Touch Mix Pro

3i2222-12QSC iSeries QSC Mixer Case
https://www.skbcases.com/music/products/...p;c=81&s=81
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#2826182 - 01/05/17 08:18 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2826183 - 01/05/17 08:42 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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Interesting that a new USB interface does not say whether it is USB 2 or USB 3. Roland's specs refer to "hi speed" and USB specs refer to "hi speed" as being USB 2.
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#2826202 - 01/06/17 05:08 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Markay]
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So, for the GO:KEYS ( their capitalization, not mine ) are they intentionally trying to be confused for a Nord product? At least to the casual observer.

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#2826205 - 01/06/17 05:16 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Markay]
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Originally Posted By: Markay
Interesting that a new USB interface does not say whether it is USB 2 or USB 3. Roland's specs refer to "hi speed" and USB specs refer to "hi speed" as being USB 2.


If it doesn't say, then my guess is USB 2. Meh...more toys from Roland.
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#2826206 - 01/06/17 05:17 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: dje31]
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Roland GO:KEYS / GO:PIANO

https://www.roland.com/us/products/gokeys_go-61k/




I think most manufacturers currently have avoided red because Nord has been so 100% committed to the color. But that's not to say that being 100% red implies exclusivity. Besides. There is a sort of orangeness to Roland's choice of red on this product, no?
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#2826207 - 01/06/17 05:19 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SlickAudio custom DAW PCs

http://www.slickaudio.com

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#2826210 - 01/06/17 05:26 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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No web presence that I could find yet, but a company called CRIMSON Technology has real time processing software called Metamorphone. They say...

"You can speak and sing in realtime by the voice of the target artists, characters, or actors."

Which I presume means you have it analyze an actor or singers voice and it allows you to sound like that person when you speak or sing in real time. Interesting... the holy grail for cover band singers?
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#2826217 - 01/06/17 05:38 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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AUDIO TECHNICA - ATM350a Microphone Systems
Cardioid Condenser Instrument Microphone with UniMount® Components

Great mic for saxes, violins, etc. But they offer a magnetic piano mount. Looks like just the thing for above the harp piano micing.

Magnetic piano harp mount is in the lower right hand corner of this pic.

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#2826220 - 01/06/17 05:50 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Wondering if some of these postings are getting a little too far away from keyboard related? idk

Just asking.
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#2826221 - 01/06/17 05:52 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Dutchgrand LTD
"Dutchgrand is the No.1 producer of portable baby grand piano-shells."
http://dutchgrand.com/product/

I wonder if the VPC-1 fits in there?

If it's anything like the first shells made by Rafinelli in Reno, NV. from 30 years back yes.
Local entertainer, wannabe Frank Sinatra guy, made these locally and any 88 noter fit based on the dimensions of the Yamah KX88, the real ones, not the newer cheesecakes..

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#2826228 - 01/06/17 06:44 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Markyboard]
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Originally Posted By: Markyboard
Wondering if some of these postings are getting a little too far away from keyboard related? idk

Just asking.


custom picked for pro/semi-pro/hobbyist piano/organ/keyboard players. not a guitar in site! or sight, even! wink
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#2826237 - 01/06/17 07:24 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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OK- no problem since you're doing all the work (and I appreciate it). Just thought that this for example



was more related to this



...than this



roll

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#2826271 - 01/06/17 09:31 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch

Nice to see from Roland, "The 61 keys are standard size and shape" -- This may be the lightest and most compact 61 with full-size keys. Besides bluetooth, it says "USB COMPUTER port: USB Micro-B type (MIDI)" so it could be a very portable tablet/laptop controller.

Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
I think most manufacturers currently have avoided red because Nord has been so 100% committed to the color. But that's not to say that being 100% red implies exclusivity.

and there have been other red keyboards... Yamaha Reface YC and a whole bunch of Korgs come to mind... the only color of the Karma, a common color of the SV1, a half-case color of the Kross, and one of numerous colors that have been available for Krome, M50, and some of the mini-synths like Micro-Korg XL and Monologue. Roland also used to have red keytars.

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#2826351 - 01/06/17 04:40 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Markyboard]
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OK- no problem since you're doing all the work (and I appreciate it). Just thought that this for example



was more related to this



...than this



roll


tee hee! like
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#2826353 - 01/06/17 04:57 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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PHYSIS PIANO - H3
Hall C - Booth #4813
http://www.viscountinstruments.com/physis-piano-h3.html
PGK Physis Grand Keyboard - 73 lightweight hammer keys with “Ivory Feel” key tops - 3 contacts - Velocity curves: 5 preset + 4 user

18kg / 39.68lbs

Must be a 73k, E to E, TP-40L or variant.

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#2826366 - 01/06/17 07:25 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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AKAI teaser, who knows wtf. wink
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#2826367 - 01/06/17 07:26 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Apparently there's a GO:MIXER as well.
https://www.roland.com/global/products/gomixer/

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#2826368 - 01/06/17 07:27 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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ROLI Soundpacks For BLOCKS and NOISE

Legendary rapper RZA of Wu-Tang Clan explains how kung-fu movies and the raw atmosphere of 1990s New York inspired the iconic album Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) — and has also inspired his Spoonful of Grit soundpack for BLOCKS and NOISE.

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#2826668 - 01/08/17 01:45 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Kurzweil's Pro Products Demo Performance Schedule is up.
AM&S Booth #6464 (Hall A)

http://kurzweil.com/news/67/
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#2826688 - 01/08/17 03:42 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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For anyone who wants to come by and say hi to me, the most likely place to find me will be the Amphion booth (6314), right next to the MOTU booth towards the front of Hall A. thu

If any of you guys are interested in meeting brother Dave Pensado, he'll be hanging out at my booth on Saturday from 10:30 until noon. cool

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#2826701 - 01/08/17 05:06 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Markay]
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#2826710 - 01/08/17 05:27 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: hurricane hugo]
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Dope.
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#2826721 - 01/08/17 06:23 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Kurzweil's Pro Products Demo Performance Schedule is up.
AM&S Booth #6464 (Hall A)

http://kurzweil.com/news/67/



ahh, I see my BFF David Bach is making his NAMM debut finally. I have known David for almost 30 years and have worked with him for 25 years. Double shifts of Chris Martirano on Thursday and Saturday. twothumbs
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#2826871 - 01/09/17 10:14 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I'm always skeptical about technology like this, but if it works, then I love the idea. I don't, however, care for the subscription processing service.

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#2826875 - 01/09/17 10:49 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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[quote=ElmerJFudd]Alright, Geoff Grace, it's January 1, 2017. I've waited all I can waits, and I can't waits no more. wink

Korg Kronos LS - we should get a closer look at this beeotch for sure.


Same exact kronos but with light keys?? what is so exciting about that that you can not wait for ???
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#2826902 - 01/09/17 12:43 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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AKAI teaser, who knows wtf. wink


It's an MPC-X, "full details are now available of two new AKAI Professional workstations, both with touch screens and featuring the MPC 2.0 software."

http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpc-x





There's also a standalone MPC Live at a lower price point.

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#2826904 - 01/09/17 12:45 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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The Stylophone GEN X-1 is the latest portable analogue synthesizer by Dubreq.

http://www.dubreq.com/gen-x-1-preview/



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#2826909 - 01/09/17 12:53 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Please post any Digital Piano news. I'm in the market and waiting to see if theres a next great thing coming.

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#2826917 - 01/09/17 01:06 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Keysguy]
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Please post any Digital Piano news. I'm in the market and waiting to see if theres a next great thing coming.


Definitely an area we'd like to see some advancement. For me, particularly the acoustic like actions (not compact/folded actions - which are important for gigging, but at home instruments like the Avant Grand, MP11/VPC-1, Casio GP). Also, at some point these home instruments will need to upgrade their amp and speaker tech to compete with the sound of nice acoustics. Also, the software pianos - multi-gigabyte libraries or modeling+hybrid sampled engines - someone is going to put these in a console instrument with a legit action, great DA and speaker system. There's a short list of instruments that come close now - a little larger group that cuts corners. And then there are the transducer speaker models.
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#2826927 - 01/09/17 01:23 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I'm digging that MPC...brings back memories of my old 2000...
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#2826971 - 01/09/17 04:47 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Keysguy]
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Please post any Digital Piano news. I'm in the market and waiting to see if theres a next great thing coming.

I'm reviewing the Nord Piano 3 at the moment, and am quite impressed. twothumbs

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#2826979 - 01/09/17 06:57 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Keysguy
Please post any Digital Piano news. I'm in the market and waiting to see if theres a next great thing coming.

I'm reviewing the Nord Piano 3 at the moment, and am quite impressed. twothumbs

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can you give us a head up on the feel of the action_?
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#2826996 - 01/09/17 07:47 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Originally Posted By: Keysguy
Please post any Digital Piano news. I'm in the market and waiting to see if theres a next great thing coming.

I'm reviewing the Nord Piano 3 at the moment, and am quite impressed. twothumbs

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I can't find one of these nowhere in my usual 30min radius to try. It's going to require tolls or public trans into Manhattan. At which point - I better have a list of others I'd like to try in the same visit. $3k plus $400 for the triple pedal then another couple hundred for a good case. I'm skeptical, it has to play crazy better than the usual suspects for me to invest in that bit of aluminum and silicon.
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#2827024 - 01/10/17 02:21 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Nord Triple Pedal is included with the piano...

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#2827027 - 01/10/17 04:06 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Matthiola]
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Thank goodness.
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#2827057 - 01/10/17 07:12 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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The MPC 2.0 software can run either on a computer or compatible MPC hardware.

As well as releasing new standalone MPC hardware, Akai Pro has also announced updated companion software. What's more, this isn't only compatible with the forthcoming MPC X and MPC Live, but also with the existing MPC Touch and MPC Studio Black.

MusicRadar article
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#2827058 - 01/10/17 07:18 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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KAWAI announced updates to some console lines.
CN37 and CN27
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"These updated models feature stunning Shigeru Kawai SK-EX and Kawai EX concert grand piano sounds, the class-leading Responsive Hammer III keyboard action, built-in Bluetooth® wireless connectivity, improved Virtual Technician functions and SHS headphone enhancements, and modernised cabinet designs, delivering a new standard in digital piano value and performance."

Press Release

Product Pages

http://www.kawai-global.com/product/cn37/

http://www.kawai-global.com/product/cn27/
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#2827059 - 01/10/17 07:20 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Ensenada Guide]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bryce
Originally Posted By: Keysguy
Please post any Digital Piano news. I'm in the market and waiting to see if theres a next great thing coming.

I'm reviewing the Nord Piano 3 at the moment, and am quite impressed. twothumbs

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can you give us a head up on the feel of the action_?

Without giving away too much of what I'll say in the review, it's awesome - not just the feel, but the connection to the sounds that their new tech brings is really noticeable from the first few seconds you start playing.

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#2827061 - 01/10/17 07:21 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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KAWAI ES110

BOOM! at long last, an update to the KAWAI ES100.

"Kawai Japan is proud to announce the ES110, the latest addition to the highly respected ES range of portable digital pianos, and successor to the best-selling ES100. This updated model features a brand new Responsive Hammer Compact keyboard action, Harmonic Imaging 88-key piano sampling, dedicated Line Out jacks, and built-in Bluetooth® wireless connectivity to deliver gig-friendly grand piano touch and tone at a remarkably affordable price."

Press Release

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http://www.kawai-global.com/product/es110/

New: Responsive Hammer Compact keyboard action
New: Bluetooth MIDI connectivity
New: Line Out jacks
Improved: 3.0 kg lighter than ES100 (15.0 kg --> 12.0 kg) 26.45lbs!
Improved: Larger, more powerful speakers (12x8 cm --> 12 cm)
Improved: Ability to toggle effects on/off from panel
Improved: Ability to toggle rotary speaker effect speed from panel
Improved: Ability to disable speakers and select 'Flat EQ' when using Line Out jacks
Improved: Virtual Technician iOS app support

$729 street.
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#2827106 - 01/10/17 09:31 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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ES-110 looks great... it even still has real MIDI jacks!

I'll be curious to feel the new action. I liked the ES-100 action, particularly in the way it "connected" to the board's sounds, but on its own, I could see room for improvement. I wonder if it may have a triple sensor (not that I find that absolutely essential).

Also curious to hear the speakers, the max volume was a weakness before. It's still only 7 watts per speaker, but the bigger speakers could sound fuller when pushed. (Speaker efficiency itself is another variable.)

I hope the effects toggle allow you to defeat the effects that were baked into the EP samples on the 100.

Still not perfect... I like having Line Inputs on boards with speakers, it can be very convenient. And more than that I still wish it had even a simple 2-digit LED display or lights over the buttons, some way to tell what sound is selected before you hit a key. If you ever use an 88 as the bottom of a 2-board stack, and come back to the 88 after only having played the 2nd board for a while, it is irritating to not be able to tell at a glance what sound your 88 is set at.

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#2827128 - 01/10/17 10:44 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: AnotherScott]
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I like having Line Inputs on boards with speakers, it can be very convenient....

+1
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#2827137 - 01/10/17 11:30 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Moonglow]
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The ES-110 looks like a winner, but is bluetooth MIDI a viable alternative to USB? In terms of latency etc.
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#2827140 - 01/10/17 11:36 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: zephonic]
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I really wish some of these pianos came in 76 or 73 key versions. Some of need reduced weight and increased portability instead of 88 keys. Just my opinion. YMMV
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#2827142 - 01/10/17 11:47 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: smanzella]
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The ES-110 weighs about 26.5 pounds.
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#2827146 - 01/10/17 12:02 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: zephonic]
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The ES-110 looks like a winner, but is bluetooth MIDI a viable alternative to USB? In terms of latency etc.


I think blue tooth is great for running audio from your smart phone apps through the internal speakers, to play along with that's great. Latency to a computer or to a blue tooth speaker - probably annoying for most of us or the pickier most of us.
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#2827152 - 01/10/17 12:25 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2827153 - 01/10/17 12:30 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Donsta]
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Its not just the weight. A smaller size makes transportation, setup, and stage real estate much easier.
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#2827162 - 01/10/17 01:11 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: zephonic]
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The ES-110 looks like a winner, but is bluetooth MIDI a viable alternative to USB? In terms of latency etc.


Supposedly low latency is possible with the Korg microkey bluetooth.



Busch.

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#2827173 - 01/10/17 01:41 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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I didn't play my korg micro key air a whole minute before I knew I was sending it back due to latency. Maybe it's just me.
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#2827180 - 01/10/17 02:02 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: mwheels]
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The general consensus I have observed is that the music industry is on the dull edge of computer technology, IE they are always a generation behind. The drive to low cost and the long development cycle precludes latest technology.

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#2827202 - 01/10/17 04:32 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: The Real MC]
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Antelope Audio
Orion32 HD


http://en.antelopeaudio.com/products/orion32-hd/

For those of you Pro Tools users who dream of an HD system:



Last year saw Avid release Pro Tools HD software as a separate product. Pro Tools HD users no longer need to purchase a piece of Avid hardware in order to own the license for the professional software. To accompany the separation of the software license and Avid’s own hardware, Avid also released the Digilink license. This is an additional license required if you intend on using Avid’s HDX and HD Native cards, or the HD Thunderbolt Native platform with an interface such as this new Orion32 HD.

Whilst this is great news for users, be aware that you will need to include the cost of this license if you decide upon a third party Digilink interface. Many are speculating that Avid are moving away from hardware and playing to their strength with software widely known in the industry. That's potentially a good thing for users, and the release of this Orion32 HD is an exciting alternative...

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#2827207 - 01/10/17 04:45 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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ROCK'N'ROLLA RECORD PLAYERS

Portable Vinyl Record Players
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Featuring:
3 speeds 33 1/3, 45 and 78.
Deluxe diamond tipped needle to improve sound quality & vinyl protection
Temperature tested belt drive to insure maximum reliability under heavy usage
Superior quality, super durable motor for maximum reliability and consistant playing speed
High-quality speakers two full-range dynamic speakers
Four input options to connect your digital devices to the Rock ‘N’ Rolla
CD Player featured on our XL Player
RCA output to link to external system
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Rechargebale lithium battery - featured on our Premium Player (4 hours play time)
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#2827213 - 01/10/17 05:00 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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MOON Amplification
http://www.moonamp.com

skamp and provado models

The amazing spatial effect of the SKAMP ORBITED speaker is produced by the special configuration of 12 high-performance sound transducers covering all four faces of the cabinet, four 100 Watt RMS amplifiers, all coupled with the signal processing power of a dual-core digital signal processor (DSP) for the incredible sound from this little package. 45.5 lbs

class-D amplifiers and a switch-mode power supply

Each of the horns has 12 times the throat area of a traditional long, narrow rotary horn, so there is no throat distortion no matter how loud you play.

has its own woofers with a crossover bypass to allow a full-range operation mode.

If more bass is wanted, pair the with one of our subwoofers: bassLiteTM, bigBassTM or our stationary subBassTM.

has extended high frequency response to make the key clicks cut through the mix.

Selecting the horn characteristic in the skamp kontrollerTM will emphasize or attenuate the key clicks.

Because skamp is loud and has spacial effects that fill the room or area, a mic setup is NOT needed for live performance.

http://www.moonamp.com/videos.html







I'm not sure what booth they are going to be at...
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#2827215 - 01/10/17 05:09 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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MOON Amplification
http://www.moonamp.com

I'm not sure what booth they are going to be at...

Hall E. Booth 1077.

I'm interested in hearing that for sure!

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#2827217 - 01/10/17 05:15 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Clear Tune - In Ear Vintage Series

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#2827218 - 01/10/17 05:18 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Dave Bryce]
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MOON Amplification
http://www.moonamp.com

I'm not sure what booth they are going to be at...

Hall E. Booth 1077.

I'm interested in hearing that for sure!

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#2827286 - 01/11/17 04:55 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2827312 - 01/11/17 07:22 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I'm pretty sure that FP-90 has been around for a while.

edit:

Yup, you even started a thread about it!
http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2803170/Re_Roland_FP_90#Post2803170
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#2827347 - 01/11/17 10:14 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: zephonic]
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File this one under "Better late than never", TC Electronics is finally releasing a native reverb plugin:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/vss3-native/
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#2827407 - 01/11/17 02:34 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: zephonic]
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FP-90 was announced earlier this year ya. Still marked as "coming soon" at the shops in the US. Roland chose to include the model along with the others in their run up to NAMM news. <shrug>
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#2827431 - 01/11/17 05:35 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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This is pretty cool. t.c. electronics has release VSS3 in native format. This used to be only available in the very expensive System 6000 hardware (which I owned at one time). Now between this and the Lexicon software you can have both of these premier reverbs.





TC Electronic VSS3 Native is available now for $199, with a special launch price of $159, ending this weekend. It requires macOS 10.9 or later, an AU, VST, or AAX plugin host, and an iLok ID (USB dongle supported but not required).

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#2827434 - 01/11/17 05:39 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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So, word is that Behringer changed their minds, and now will be displaying the Deepmind 12 at their booth, which contradicts what I was told (and repeated elsewhere here on the forum)... so that'll be something to look for. twothumbs
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#2827439 - 01/11/17 06:06 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: zephonic]
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Originally Posted By: zephonic
File this one under "Better late than never", TC Electronics is finally releasing a native reverb plugin:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/vss3-native/


Sorry I missed that one.

Busch.

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#2827441 - 01/11/17 06:07 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Sven Golly]
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
So, word is that Behringer changed their minds, and now will be displaying the Deepmind 12 at their booth, which contradicts what I was told (and repeated elsewhere here on the forum)... so that'll be something to look for. twothumbs


This is good. Maybe they feel the product has come along enough to let a little wider and more critical crowd get their hands on it.
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#2827453 - 01/11/17 07:37 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I got the email earlier today, and am going to log into my TC account when I get home from work to see if I am still grandfathered into the Powercore upgrade discount.

Thing is, that wasn't my actual favourite of the Powercore reverbs. That award goes to one of the later, simpler, lower-priced ones that they added. I no longer remember its name, but it had a great workflow and didn't use that wonky System 6000 interface style (though many of those are great plugs).

Correction: I just remembered that the one included in Powercore was "VSS" (or maybe "VSS2") and not the full-featured rev3 "VSS3" that is now being released native.


Edited by Mark Schmieder (01/11/17 07:39 PM)
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#2827472 - 01/11/17 09:19 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Korg announced all their stuff. Mainly color options. Gadget for Mac.

Gold Kronos is pretty stunning.

http://www.korg.com/us/

Busch.

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#2827474 - 01/11/17 09:41 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Thing is, that wasn't my actual favourite of the Powercore reverbs. That award goes to one of the later, simpler, lower-priced ones that they added. I no longer remember its name, but it had a great workflow and didn't use that wonky System 6000 interface style (though many of those are great plugs).

Correction: I just remembered that the one included in Powercore was "VSS" (or maybe "VSS2") and not the full-featured rev3 "VSS3" that is now being released native.

For any of you that are serious reverb fans, you owe it to yourself to hear a Bricasti M7. There's simply nothing like it. Twelve times the processing power of the System 6000...and I don't mean figuratively.

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#2827475 - 01/11/17 09:45 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Dave Bryce]
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The M7 is the real deal live too.
Native sounds fine on headphones but not on an Array.
DSP works better, but hardware Reverb just envelopes the source audio instead of adding tails
Wish I could afford one.
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#2827479 - 01/11/17 10:44 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: hardware]
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Dave, I believe it, just based on Slate's emulation of the Bricasti in his own new reverb plug-in! I was skeptical until recently.
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#2827487 - 01/12/17 04:07 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Korg announced all their stuff. Mainly color options. Gadget for Mac.

Gold Kronos is pretty stunning.

http://www.korg.com/us/

Busch.


Full size Korg Arp Odyssey
Goodbye mini keys. wink

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2017/01/12/full-size-korg-arp-odyssey/

Korg is pointing out it will be limited addition, assembled in US.

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#2827505 - 01/12/17 06:16 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Gold Kronos is pretty stunning.

http://www.korg.com/us/

Busch.

Holy Hell! I NEED those end panels for mine!! drool love
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#2827512 - 01/12/17 06:32 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Korg announced all their stuff. Mainly color options. Gadget for Mac.

Gold Kronos is pretty stunning.

What I like about a lot of Korg's alternate colors is that, beyond any aesthetic preference, they are easier to use on dark stages than the boards that have black controls on black surfaces. My black M50 was a bear that way, I was glad to see them come out with alternate colors that were much better, but alas, they only came out with the alternate colors for the 61, and I wanted the 73. Similarly I thought the titanium Kronos was cool, but only came in the 88. I wish they would start defaulting to something different from the black on black on all their boards.

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#2827518 - 01/12/17 06:43 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Korg announced all their stuff. Mainly color options. Gadget for Mac.

Gold Kronos is pretty stunning.

What I like about a lot of Korg's alternate colors is that, beyond any aesthetic preference, they are easier to use on dark stages than the boards that have black controls on black surfaces. My black M50 was a bear that way, I was glad to see them come out with alternate colors that were much better, but alas, they only came out with the alternate colors for the 61, and I wanted the 73. Similarly I thought the titanium Kronos was cool, but only came in the 88. I wish they would start defaulting to something different from the black on black on all their boards.


would you be concerned that the gold Kronos is a theft target ?

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#2827578 - 01/12/17 09:47 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: GregC]
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Bitwig Studio 2.0

https://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/bitwig-studio-2.html



There have been a number of things missing from Bitwig that are common in other DAWs – but we are talking about version 1. Version 2 appears to address some of those areas which may seem obvious.

You can now vary the height of tracks individually

Crossfades and fades are now possible in the timeline

VST3 support is included

The tools have been smartened up so that they dynamically change depending on what your mouse is pointing at.

Some insane ideas and GUI for editing and routing modulation

New Devices

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#2827583 - 01/12/17 09:49 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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RME - pre-NAMM 2017 preview of UFX II
Budget version of UFX+ loses Thunderbolt and MADI


https://www.gearnews.com/rme-fireface-ufx-ii-ahead-namm-2017/

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#2827691 - 01/12/17 03:21 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Gadget OSX Collage of about half the plugins.

Of interest:
The plugins from Module
ARP Odyssey
New Guitar FX
M1
New Tape Recorder input

Looks fun.



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#2827727 - 01/12/17 05:23 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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highly creative team of people working at Korg. There's no doubt about that. Not afraid to take chances, either.
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#2827740 - 01/12/17 06:29 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Fishman SA330x Performance Audio System

This looks interesting in the vein of compact PA's like the Fender and Bose L1.

http://www.fishman.com/products/series/sa/sa330x/

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#2827743 - 01/12/17 06:36 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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LogicKeyboard ASTRA backlit keyboards now for Mac OS - Logic Pro model available, I'm sure other DAWs will follow.

http://logickeyboard.com/shop/search-1.html?keyword=Astra

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#2827782 - 01/12/17 11:46 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Busch, thanks for the large photo of Korg Gadget, as the announcement I saw earlier had a tiny photo that couldn't be expanded, and I hadn't a clue what was included! Looks enticing.
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#2827784 - 01/13/17 12:22 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: burningbusch]
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Originally Posted By: burningbusch
Gadget OSX Collage of about half the plugins.

Of interest:
The plugins from Module
ARP Odyssey
New Guitar FX
M1
New Tape Recorder input



Busch.


The new iwavestation plug in recently released and compatible with gadget on the ipad, is so much fun... and usefull.. incredible intuitive interface it has...


For me the next step should be integration between gadget , AU units. , and korg hardware... espescially with the high end instruments that have a touchscreen...(kronos / pa4x )... full integration should boost both hardware as well as software sales...
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#2827843 - 01/13/17 06:53 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Full size Korg Arp Odyssey
Goodbye mini keys. wink

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2017/01/12/full-size-korg-arp-odyssey/

Korg is pointing out it will be limited addition, assembled in US.


Now, that's nice. Look at the size comparison at the 20 second mark. That's what 14% shrinkage can do: "Significant shrinkage."

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#2827866 - 01/13/17 08:20 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Buzzzzzzz]
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Gadget for Mac will include two new "audio recording" gadgets.

http://www.korg.com/us/news/2017/011202/
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#2827968 - 01/13/17 02:55 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: GovernorSilver]
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I've seen the earlier prototypes some time ago that were interest. But Nancy has some really nice looking speakers now. I just saw pictures of the Baroque style cabinets and they are really sharp looking. I've seen the concept tried before but her demo sound really good. Looks like they are shooting to be a major player in the church market.

What impresses me is they do a great job at rotary sound while also sounding like a good keyboard sound system in a stop mode.


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#2828005 - 01/13/17 05:37 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: CEB]
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Assembled in NY all parts from china. Which is normal I guess. That's basically what Moog does aside from the Model D and Modular. Get everything made elsewhere and assemble it here. Doesn't matter much as long as it's good quality. Maybe this will be the end of the mini synth trend? Probs not. I thought they would have had a full size poly to reveal. Maybe at the event. I would have rather seen that than a full size Odyssey and ugly white MS20 mini.
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#2828147 - 01/14/17 11:31 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: SteeVtheRipper]
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QSC
Version 1.1 Firmware for the Acclaimed TouchMix-30 Pro

http://www.qsc.com/news/news/detail/qsc-...-digital-mixer/

Version 1.1 firmware adds a variety of significant product enhancements:

Direct Download for Upgrades
Parametric EQ improvements
Channel Safe functions
Version 1.1 firmware also includes other improvements, including:
The "Omit levels” function on the Preset page now also omits group assignments. Presets can now be recalled without effecting mute group, sub group and DCA group assignments.
Maximum LCD brightness has been increased.
The Monitor pop-up now includes delay settings and source selection buttons as well as a vertical fader for level control. The Phones / Cue Level pop-up also has been changed to a vertical fader.
Added balance control to the FX returns.
Improved multi-track session file backup/restore to avoid potential loss when hard drive is disconnected too rapidly.
Made appearance and layout improvements to Menu page, Mixer Setup page, Network Setup page and Security Setup / Login pages.
Updated the Info System to reflect the improvements.
Multiple improvements to network and tablet/smartphone connectivity.
Improved USB drive format utility to properly format a drive previously formatted with an unrecognized file system (like NTFS).
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#2828149 - 01/14/17 11:36 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SKB Corporation
1SKB-iSF2U Studio Flyer 2U Rack Case—the first ever injection molded, waterproof carry-on Studio Rack Case.

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#2828154 - 01/14/17 11:43 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Advanced Ears
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custom in ear monitors

"Special Discount on orders placed during the NAMM Show"




Booth 7310
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#2828155 - 01/14/17 11:54 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SONIC FACTION
Hypermorph Synth for Ableton

Sonic Faction has introduced HYPERMORPH, which they describe as a shapeshifting Max for Live synthesizer that layers and transforms your sound in realtime.



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#2828276 - Yesterday at 10:16 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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#2828362 - Yesterday at 05:40 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Markyboard]
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GRAVITY PREMIUM STANDS
http://www.gravitystands.com/

Catalogue

"Gravity® premium microphone stands were developed by designers in conjunction with users over an intensive two year period, focussing on design and quality. The technical development objectives were: durable and precise construction, rapid adjustment and comfortable handling due to a non-slip, soft-touch finish. These microphone stands have already proven themselves in many applications worldwide and created a great impression, not least because of their unique G-rings. They are available in a wide range of colours to facilitate personalisation of stands to your taste, or to denote position on the stage. Gravity® microphone stands have received numerous awards since their market launch."
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#2828364 - Yesterday at 05:47 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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EVENTIDE
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"January 10, 2017 — Eventide, entering its 46th year at the cutting edge of audio, will be unveiling a revolutionary new plug-in technology."
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#2828366 - Yesterday at 05:51 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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SLAPEROO PERCUSSION

"Slaperoo Percussion presents the 2017 Electric Walking Stick.

Endorsed by Jazz Legend Dr. Lonnie Smith, the Electric Walking Stick is built on the same platform as the award winning N-100 PRO (NAMM 2013 Best in Show)."

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#2828449 - Today at 04:49 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Studiologic announced their "numa compact 2":

http://www.studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2/

Specs:

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Keyboard:
- 88 Keys, TP/9 PIANO semi-weighted Action
- Dual switch detection system
- Afertouch

Touch:
- Soft, Medium, Hard, Fixed (programmable)

Sound generator:
- Max Polyphony 128 voices
- 2 Parts - Lower + Upper
- TrS (True Sound) Stereo multi-samples
- 88 Sounds: 8x Acoustic Piano, 8x Electric Piano, 8x Keyboards, 12x Bass & Guitars, 12x Organ, 12x Synthesizers, 12x Orchestral, 16x Other sounds

Effects / Processing:
- Up to 6 effects simultaneously: 2 FX on Lower + 2 FX on Upper + Reverb + String resonance
- FX1: Drive, Chorus, Phaser, Flanger
- FX2: Rotary, Tremolo, Pan Trem, Delay
- REVERB: Room, Hall, Plate, Spring
- String Resonance on all Piano sounds with level control

Features:
- Sound and Programs: 99 User programs, 1GB Samples memory
- 4 Sections: 2 Sounds in Layer or Split mode, 2 MIDi Zones in Layer or Split mode
- Edit functions: Global Edit (8 parameters), Program Edit (4 parameters), Part Edit (13 parameters), Mixer (Lower / Upper / Zone A / Zone B control)
- Master controls: Bass, Treble, Mastering, Volume
- MIDI Module: 2 Programmable Zones - A/B, Program Change, Bank Select (LSB, MSB), MIDI Channel, Volume, Split assign, Transpose, Octave Pedals 1-2 assign, Sticks 1-2 assign

Speaker system:
- 10 + 10W built-in digital Amplifier
- 2 Elliptical full range speakers

Controls / UI:
- OLED display 128 x 64 dots
- Encoder with push function
- 7 potentiometer
- 20 buttons
- Sticks: Stick 1: Pitch, Stick 2: Mod + FX Control

Connections:
- Audio OUT: 2x 6,3 mm mono jack (L+R)
- Headphones: 6,3 mm TRS jack (programmable as Aux out)
- Pedals: Expression, Universal
- MIDI: In, Out
- USB: USB to Host, MIDI, power

Power supply:
- DC IN: 12V
- Adapter: Input: 100-240V / Output: 12V-1A

Size and Weight:
- Width: 127 cm / 50"
- Depth: 23 cm / 9"
- Height: 10 cm / 4"
- Weight: 7,1 Kg / 15,6 lbs

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Internal speakers and below 8 kg - that sounds great! If the sounds are cool and the keys don't feel to crappy, I'll buy it ;-)

Best regards, Alex (not affiliated in any way with Studiologic)


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#2828459 - Today at 05:37 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Alexander Nagel]
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Wow, the Numa Compact 2 sounds great. I really like the original, in terms of decent sound and feel in a super lightweight board, I gig with it a lot.

The addition of aftertouch alone is remarkable, even for those looking for a lightweight controller with more than 61 keys and aftertouch.

Internal speakers can be handy. And while I like to have Line Inputs on boards with internal speakers, that' a quibble here.

The Numa Compact seemed to have been largely derived from the Numa Piano (which had a fully weighted action but was electronically quite similar), but they had taken out the Split function, I'm glad to see that's back (especially as someone who plays a good deal of LH bass). Something else they had taken out were the bass and treble controls, I"m glad to see they're back, especially as I think the EPs--although quite good--benefitted from a little treble roll-off (though we don't know yet if the new model has identical EP sounds). It would be nice to be able to store EQ in a preset, though it looks like that is not the case.

The piano sound was usable, though had some odd quirks, particularly some samples being placed incorrectly in the stereo field. I hope that's fixed, though it never affected me as I played it mono anyway,

The new version is using little sticks instead of the pitch/mod wheel, I'll reserve judgment until I get more detail, but that might be a small step in the wrong direction.

One of the biggest shortcomings of the original as a controller is that, while it could usefully store MIDI presets, they could only be recalled through scrolling... the patch select buttons worked to recall user presets of internal sounds, but (unless I missed something) could not be used to recall user presets of external sounds. I hope that's been addressed.

Anyway, this is definitely on my Buy list.

Here's info from the web site:

http://www.studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2/

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#2828461 - Today at 05:50 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: AnotherScott]
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Studio Logic has been very busy these last few years. Rumor has it this won't be their only announcement.

On the Compact 2 - is this their TP-9 or 8 action?

Questions that immediately come to mind...
Also where are they sourcing / commissioning their sounds?
Is the organ section based on their Numa Organ 2 or samples?
Pianos modeled like on the Physis? Or samples?
Synth section samples or the Sledge's Waldorf engine.

Their marketing copy suggests its 1gb of samples on flash ram. Next question, well users be able to upload samples? They seem to have added a pretty potent fx section allowing for up to 6 at a time.


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#2828479 - Today at 06:52 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Pakotec Rent-a-Plugin: a new way to access great processing?
Top effects and instruments with 10hrs free use

https://www.gearnews.com/pakotec-plugin-rental/
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#2828482 - Today at 06:58 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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The website says TP9. I thought that was Fatar's synth action keyboard. According to the Kurzweil website, it's a "lightly weighted synth action"

I can't see playing piano on that.
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#2828483 - Today at 06:59 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
On the Compact 2 - is this their TP-9 or 8 action?

Two posts above your question. First section under "Specs:"
Originally Posted By: Alexander Nagel
Keyboard:
- 88 Keys, TP/9 PIANO semi-weighted Action
- Dual switch detection system
- Afertouch(sic)



~ vonnor


Edited by vonnor (Today at 07:05 AM)
Edit Reason: Added pix
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#2828484 - Today at 07:01 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Rusty Mike]
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TP9 is a semi-weighted action, but it's used mostly in synth. QS7, Andromeda, DSI PEK and many others have this keybed. It's pretty great - makes it possible to play piano on an action that's mainly designed for synths.

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#2828507 - Today at 08:05 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Browsing the Studiologic website, apparently TP/9 comes in a couple of flavors: TP/9 S (synth?) and TP/9 Piano - each with various weightings. For example, one of the differences between the Sledge II and the Sledge Black is an upgrade in action from TP/9S unweighted to TP/9S semi-weighted.

I was researching this last week because in spite of the general release of the Deepmind 12 just getting underway, I'm more interested in the Sledge Black. Splits, layers, 5 octave real estate, and striking looks all are a better fit for me live.

I know this probably sounds ridiculous to most of you, but that's just me...

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#2828512 - Today at 08:23 AM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Bill H.]
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Not when the Sledge is 24 poly, extensively tactile, and as you mentioned has a more keys, splits/layers. If it's right for you, hey... right tool for the right job.
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#2828587 - Today at 12:21 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Questions that immediately come to mind...
Also where are they sourcing / commissioning their sounds?
Is the organ section based on their Numa Organ 2 or samples?
Pianos modeled like on the Physis? Or samples?

Organ presets, no drawbar control or other parameter adjustments, would lead me to presume samples. Not much reason to put in a fancy tonewheel modeling engine that can't do anything but playback a dozen presets. And this is still presumably going to be something of a budget board.

Similarly, I would assume straight samples on the piano, they have never had a modeled piano. If they came out with one, we'd likely see it first on a high end rather than budget keyboard, and they'd probably make mention of it.

Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
They seem to have added a pretty potent fx section allowing for up to 6 at a time.

It is described this way:

Quote:
Up to 6 effects simultaneously: 2 FX on Lower + 2 FX on Upper + Reverb + String resonance
FX1: Drive, Chorus, Phaser, Flanger
FX2: Rotary, Tremolo, Pan Trem, Delay
REVERB: Room, Hall, Plate, Spring
String Resonance on all Piano sounds with level control


So, not really a ton of fx... on a single sound, you can pick one from the FX1 list, one from the FX2 list, and reverb. (Plus string resonance if it's a piano.) Still a perfectly decent selection for a budget board of its type, I think.

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#2828618 - Today at 02:32 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: MAJUSCULE]
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I've been a long time away from the Keyboard Corner, and I apologize if this is inappropriate, but ...

I've been working with a soon-to-be instrument importer/distributor/developer called Key Magic, and we'll be showing off two new keyboard products in Hall E, Booth 1177.

The first is a Eurorack modular system from Vinicius Electrik, which includes a killer module called the MonsterDrone.

The second (which I'm really excited about) is a real, bona fide, no BS, old school reed electric piano. No MIDI, nothing digital, not even a power button.

If you're there, come by and see us. We'll be in the basement in a corner booth on a wide aisle. smile
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#2828624 - Today at 02:52 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Jason Stanfield]
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Nice to see you back, Jason. Whatever happened to the Tokai/Ventura organ? Tough market, I know. I wonder how they would do (or would have done) marketing it as a controller, even with no sounds in it. With things like VB3/Mainstage/Gemini/HX3 seemingly getting more prevalent... that organ seems like it would be great just as a controller... decent action, light weight, two sets of drawbars, pitch and mod wheels, MIDI-friendly buttons... just as a controller, it seems like it's what a lot of people here might like, as everything else out there seems to have either only 1 set of drawbars, or no pitch/mod wheels, or weigh a lot...

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#2828675 - Today at 06:16 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Alexander Nagel]
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Originally Posted By: Alexander Nagel
Studiologic announced their "numa compact 2":

http://www.studiologic-music.com/products/numa_compact2/


Nice! Ticks a lot of boxes! wink
7 kg is crazy light!

Any word on pricing?

Cheers,
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#2828681 - Today at 06:49 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Nice to see you back, Jason.


+1. for whatever reason I was thinking about you a while ago, wondering what had happened. Keep in touch. Really interested in the EP you had mentioned.
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#2828683 - Today at 07:03 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: davedoerfler]
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Teenage Engineering teaser

What did they make?

Sampler?

https://www.gearnews.com/pocket-operator-sampler-teenage-engineering/

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#2828688 - Today at 07:15 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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PERCUSSA

Folks that do AUDIO CUBES announces Synthor System 8 Digital Modular Synthesis System

http://www.gearjunkies.com/2017/01/percu...nthesis-system/
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#2828698 - Today at 07:47 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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CDM seems confident no hardware updates or product releases from Nord this time around.

Steinway No. 1 and Royal Grand 3D (a binaural dummy head recording of a grand. That should give you the feeling of sitting at the piano, which I think will make this particularly nice for anyone using a Nord for practice). Appear to be what's news from Nord Clavia.

http://cdm.link/2017/01/now-nord-can-sound-like-first-steinway-no-1/
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#2828721 - Today at 09:52 PM Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
CDM seems confident no hardware updates or product releases from Nord this time around.


Hmmm...I didn't get that impression from the article.
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#2828724 - 27 minutes 21 seconds ago Re: NAMM 2017 NEWS [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
CDM seems confident no hardware updates or product releases from Nord this time around.


Hmmm...I didn't get that impression from the article.


He may be referring to this: "Clavia aren’t unveiling any new gear this week..."
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