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#2809022 - 10/13/16 02:32 PM CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-songwriter-bob-dylan-wins-nobel-literature-prize-111411379.html <---Congratulations are in order for the one and only Bob Dylan who just won the Nobel Literature Prize! This is definitely poetic justice! like
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#2809035 - 10/13/16 03:15 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Oh man, now it's REALLY going to be hard to get him to return my calls.
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#2809087 - 10/14/16 02:19 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Wow! so that`s why I`ve been seeing his picture on the Japanese news sites.
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#2809097 - 10/14/16 04:31 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: skipclone 1]
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I agree, congrats, Bob.
Whether his lyrics are really LITERATURE is another question, but he did write things that were (and still are) important to a lot of people.

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#2809100 - 10/14/16 04:54 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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I just posted this news on that OTHER guitar forum.

In essence I said, "Bob's been a HUGE influence on both aspiring musicians AND already established singer/songwriters. NOW all he needs is that LONG overdue Gershwin award."

Congradulations indeed! smile
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#2809902 - 10/18/16 08:34 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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Funny thing. As of today he wont answer or return notification calls from the nobel people. Seems like he doesnt want to accept the prize. Without getting political , im not sure i would either. Who am i kidding? Award me, notice me, LOVE ME.
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#2809928 - 10/19/16 04:29 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Baldwin Funster]
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Award me, notice me, love me, and above all, GREASE MY PALM WITH SILVER, LOL.

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#2809932 - 10/19/16 04:54 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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There IS some money given with each Nobel prize as I understand. Not sure of how much( I once heard it was around $50,000), so it can't be MONEY that's holding up Bob.
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#2809970 - 10/19/16 08:52 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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Dylan is on tour right now and may be a little bit busy and hard to reach at the moment. I think he will accept the award before the award ceremony in December...
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#2810128 - 10/20/16 05:00 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Oh yeah. I heard he was "wheezing it up" with those other fogeys in that "Desert Trip" thing. grin

A lotta "snow" at that event, if ya get my drift( no pun intent), and NOT the kind there USED to be a lot of at their concerts. wink
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#2810165 - 10/20/16 08:23 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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It doesn't snow much on the desert trips LOL! I think he has smoked a few doobies, but I didn't know about the snow till now... puff
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#2810200 - 10/20/16 11:36 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Dylan knows about the nobel prize. The nobel people have talked to his office people and left several messages. Plus dont you think everybody he bumps into says "hey, i heard about ......". If dylan is avoiding them he is doing it on purpose.
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#2810274 - 10/20/16 08:10 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Baldwin Funster]
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Dylan goes down in history as winning the award whether he accepts it or not. He may show up, if it interests him. They plan to party with or without him! I think he will show... cool
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#2810316 - 10/21/16 05:09 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Uh, am I missing something here?

The "snow" I was referring to was the "snow on the roof" that most(or all) the performers and likely most of the people in the audience now have. grin

The OTHER "snow" I mentioned was something ELSE that used to permeate the scene at many concerts back in the "day". wink Nowadays, most of those folks probably snort METAMUCIL! grin
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#2810425 - 10/21/16 01:21 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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Well Cher just kicked off her Vegas tour yesterday at the age of 70 and was in the news...she has the advantage of coloring her hair. Not a lot of snow on her roof top, but she still looks good at her age. I give old Bob credit along with his "other fogeys" for still being out there on stage...I'll send old fogey credits/kudos out to the Stones for still being out there and rocking it too! Sorry about misinterpreting the "wheezing it up" concept... crazy
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#2810502 - 10/22/16 05:09 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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grin grin

Remember that video The Dead did for their song "Touch Of Grey" with the skeleton marionettes? My daughter, going about her housework with the TV on(sound muted) saw it in the corner of her eye and said, "I thought it was a STONES video!" grin
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#2810557 - 10/22/16 11:56 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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#2810758 - 10/24/16 03:56 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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A lot of the old fogeys are still out on the stage because they don't know how to do anything ELSE, LOL.

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#2810762 - 10/24/16 04:57 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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A bit in today's paper quoting PAUL SIMON who said he might step back from touring, but has NO plans on retiring. So, there ya go.

A lot of old fogeys, looking for something to do or to augment their meager pensions find work in fast food joints.

Can you imagine pulling up to the drive-thru window at Mickey D's and having your Filet o' Fish handed to you by PAUL SIMON? Or BOB DYLAN or NEIL YOUNG or even BILL WYMAN, who turnes 80 today? grin
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#2810887 - 10/24/16 01:39 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILL WYMAN! You definitely got to play with the greatest old fogeys of all time! thu
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#2812108 - 10/29/16 06:59 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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https://www.yahoo.com/music/dylan-plans-accept-amazing-nobel-stockholm-report-212502478.html <---Update: it looks like speechless Dylan has accepted his well deserved Nobel Prize! Congrats Bobby D! twothumbs
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#2812149 - 10/29/16 11:14 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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He said the honor has rendered him speechless. Hopefully he'll have a speech worked up by December.
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#2812243 - 10/30/16 05:27 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Scott Fraser]
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I also wonder....

Is there some kind of PLAQUE that one gets? Will it have DYLAN or ZIMMERMAN on it?
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#2812274 - 10/30/16 08:02 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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What about Bob? or will it be Robert? cool
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#2812967 - 11/02/16 04:25 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Congrats to Bob and Bill Wyman both. smile

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#2813357 - 11/03/16 01:20 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: ashevillecabbie]
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My brother in law got off a good one on his grandson.

The kid called him an "old fart" in reply to something, and my brother in law said, "You say that like it's a BAD thing. But, a FRESH fart smells as bad as an OLD one, if not WORSE." grin

Just remember....the OLDER a fart gets, the less it STINKS. Remember THAT, you YOUNG FARTS! grin
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#2815804 - 11/16/16 11:56 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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<Update Bump:> https://www.yahoo.com/music/bob-dylan-not-attend-nobel-164023205.html <---looks like Bobby D's [too] busy to make the trip to accept his award. If he doesn't go over there and give a speech in 6 months, they may just take it away... cool


Edited by Larryz (11/17/16 08:13 AM)
Edit Reason: too to tango for Fang
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#2815878 - 11/17/16 04:46 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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AIEeee!

Don't want to sound like a prig, but....

"TOO" is synomynous with "also" plus in some cases, "more".

"To" usually indicates a movement or direction, or also indicating the result of an action.

For example;

Bobby D's "too" busy.--

Joni Mitchell is one of those artrist's I don't listen "to".

THANK you, "Grammar Rock". wink
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#2815911 - 11/17/16 08:11 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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I know how to use "too" and "to" and put too and too together two, and I really don't need the Grammar Rock to point out the errors. If I pointed out your BS typos and errors, I wouldn't have time too get anything else posted... crazy
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#2815968 - 11/17/16 03:31 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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No, I understand....I too suffer from the "Grammar Nazi Syndrome". It's a curse, really. We have no choice but to point out errors, no matter how much we try to hold back. Please don't hate us for it!
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#2815979 - 11/17/16 04:54 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: A String]
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Originally Posted By: A String
No, I understand....I too suffer from the "Grammar Nazi Syndrome". It's a curse, really. We have no choice but to point out errors, no matter how much we try to hold back. Please don't hate us for it!


OK...I do not hate anyone Astring, to include you and Whitefang that suffer from the "Grammar Nazi Sydrome." I hope you will enjoy each others company and find forgiveness in your hearts before they come for you.

ps. I have always felt bad about the title of this thread as being "Congratulation" instead of "Congratulations"...does anybody really care?


Edited by Larryz (11/17/16 05:34 PM)
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#2816026 - 11/18/16 04:21 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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I'm sure if Astring and I really WERE grammar "nazis" we'd have made it a point to mention it.

I can't speak for Astring, but in MY case, it goes to how I was brought up. I also will point out that my stickling about grammar as far as I'M concerned is a perpetual "work in progress". Was also told by others that no matter how smart somebody is, that if they TALK like a dumb-ass, they'll be THOUGHT of as one. And on the other side of the coin, a dumb-ass can be thought of as smart ONLY based on his SOUNDING so. It's all based on the old saying, "If you can't BLIND them with your BRILLIANCE, then DAZZLE them with your BULLSHIT!" wink

I've gotten a LOT of mileage out of that. I also live by the credo; "Never have a method to your madness without a madness to your METHOD." grin
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#2816165 - 11/18/16 10:36 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: A String]
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No, I understand....I too suffer from the "Grammar Nazi Syndrome". It's a curse, really. We have no choice but to point out errors, no matter how much we try to hold back. Please don't hate us for it!


I'm sure it was mentioned Fang...I hope this is grammatically correct.
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#2816184 - 11/19/16 05:14 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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In my case, it might be an attempt to avoid this place from becoming another Facebook type thing, where when in my short time on that grotto, I've seen the word "there" used in place of "they're" and "their". and also "to" used in place of "too" and also, of all things, "TWO"!

To get back on track:

I read somewhere Dylan cited "prior commitments" as a reason for not attending. I didn't however, see anything in the item I read it in about him losing the award if he doesn't show up in some allotted amount of time. Could be true though, since I've never have had to or will need to be concerned about proper Nobel prize decorum. grin
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#2816235 - 11/19/16 10:49 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/entertainm...mony/index.html <---This is where I read that the only requirement is that Dylan present a Nobel Lecture within 6 months...
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#2816243 - 11/19/16 11:32 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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OK then. Thanks for clearing it up.

I'll have to keep MY calendar clear, Just in case! wink grin
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#2820786 - 12/12/16 10:29 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bob-...ocid=spartanntp <---looks like Bob will show up in Sweden to claim his $870,000.00 cash prize and fulfill the speech requirement... cool
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#2820880 - 12/12/16 05:30 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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If i was Bob i would take my acoustic guitar out and play highway 61 revisited, grab the cash and fly back home.
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#2820932 - 12/13/16 04:59 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Baldwin Funster]
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He's got a few concert dates set up 'round that time too.
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#2821493 - 12/15/16 10:40 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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I think he will book the $850,000.00 half hour speaking gig into his busy touring schedule LOL! cool
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#2821634 - 12/16/16 04:19 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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He might even inject those half-hour lectures during his CONCERTS, thereby jacking his ticket prices WAY up past "McCartney levels". grin
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#2821877 - 12/17/16 08:54 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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I hope the Swedes do a live broadcast of the speech so that we can all hear it over here. I think it would be cool if Dylan wrote his speech in a song and made them all listen to him sing for a half hour or so LOL! cool
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#2821927 - 12/17/16 01:06 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Hey. If they can sit through a speech by AL GORE, then Dylan's singing is a piece of cake! wink
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#2846420 - 04/02/17 08:10 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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https://www.yahoo.com/music/no-word-dylan-receive-nobel-prize-131948722.html <Bump> Update: Dylan has accepted his Nobel prize. cool
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#2846605 - 04/03/17 08:20 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Well, I'm glad it could be done in an intimate setting, because Dylan was really victimized by media attention in his younger days. They wouldn't let the poor mofo ALONE.....

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#2846649 - 04/03/17 09:59 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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+1 Eric thu
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#2846706 - 04/03/17 03:02 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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Well, I'm glad it could be done in an intimate setting, because Dylan was really victimized by media attention in his younger days. They wouldn't let the poor mofo ALONE.....


Yeah. So much so he often made stuff up about himself and experiences he'd had. There's one story where he says he played a burlesque type place where, "....I'd go on between the strippers and the comics and sing my folkie tunes. One time a guy in a clown suit rolled up and pinched me on the cheek. I kicked him in the nuts and no one saw. The rest of the comics left me alone after that."

I read somewhere later on that the incident never really happened.
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#2846794 - 04/04/17 05:00 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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Well, I think Dylan was just making fun of people who had nothing better to do than to ask him dumb questions. In this case, I think it's rather obvious he was just kidding. Though to starstruck idol worshipers, who KNOWS what's obvious to them??

I don't do things like that on a REGULAR basis, but have been KNOWN to, LOL. Especially with junior Pharisees in churches.....

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#2846931 - 04/04/17 01:45 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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Could be too that over a longer period he got around to settling his personality and attitude. The thing I mentioned came rom some old paperback "bio" that was printed in '65. And possbly info gathered over the previous couple of years. His first Playboy interview was around that time too, and just as cryptic and sarcastically evasive. I ran across a copy of it somehow and where in the mid '70's and read his second Playboy interview later that decade. BIG difference. He seemed more down to Earth and forthcoming
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#2847041 - 04/05/17 04:33 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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Yes, it's true, most people "live and learn" and "mellow" (I actually hate that word, LOL) as they get older.
But in all fairness, people in public life learn defense mechanisms, sometimes because they feel they HAVE to.... like how the Beatles dealt with the press with humor in their early days. Because they had no particular to share their personal feelings with these people who after all, were not their "friends".

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#2847133 - 04/05/17 10:03 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Eric Iverson]
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I think the Bob Dylan and Beatles interviews can be pretty fun to watch now and then. They have that humor and flippant attitude trying to be super cool in front of the cameras that I enjoy LOL! cool
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#2847191 - 04/05/17 02:26 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Bob's cool & all but he sought fame & media attention, even to the point of creating several false versions of his past so later when writers may've been skeptical of him in some ways, who to blame.
At other times he did have justification for sniping at those who didn't get his work or were unable to keep up w/ the hipper than hip crowd he rode herd on---or reverting to "gramma's grammar Nazi" mode, on which he rode herd.

As per lang, I usedta suffer from that malady, but eventually came to realize that language has always been a fluid, evolving thing & it always will be.
To play w/ lang is one of conversation's & writing's great pleasures & really a way of adding style &, in some ways, intimacy to communication.
Teenage & carny slang, etc.

As Professor Fred McDowell noted in his definitive 1959 work, I Do Not Play No Rock & Roll, "Who's never get it ?"
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#2847411 - 04/06/17 11:49 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: d]
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I suppose to some, it depends on which direction the "fluid" flows. If it flows where THEY don't like, they throw a tantrum.

Bob's lyricism was always heavy on abstact word play and creating uniquely vivid mental images. And sometimes that tendency would show up in his speech. That's when those interviews get interesting. As for The Beatles....

For years, writers and other critics always foisted the "witty one" banner on John Lennon. Sure, he had a quick and sharp wit, but ALL of them in their own way, showed they too, had that "rapier" wit.
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#2847618 - 04/07/17 10:00 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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I suppose some know more abt tantrums than others (whatever that has do do with this) but here's something to mull over (or, "grammar nazis" watchin ?) over which to mull when putting Bob up against John.

John 'n' Bob inna back of Lennon's car (watch fer the look at Alf Bickner!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5YLdHG83U0

That was filmed for prospective Dylan documentary but for some reason (who can imagine ?) left off....


Sometimes it's best to know when to just dial back.
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#2847624 - 04/07/17 10:15 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: d]
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There's long been the "legend" that The Beatles introduced Bob to the potential of an electric rock band approach to music, and Bob introduced The Beatles to marijuana.

This little bit of film seems to support the latter. wink
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#2847642 - 04/07/17 11:14 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: whitefang]
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Here's one of my fave Bob Dyl toons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8DylAtPF0I
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#2847652 - 04/07/17 11:43 AM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: d]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-5fDg-VUxQ <---here's my favorite Like a Rolling Stone, that is if I had to pick just one LOL! cool
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#2847674 - 04/07/17 12:22 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Larry, that's cool & all [great crisp drums & a very pop radio sound + expressive BD vox] but what's it's "formulation" ?
Couldn't find anything at the YT thread.
However, issat really Bob ?

For that toon, however, didja ever hear the one on SELF PORTRAIT ?
Bob Dyl (we call him that cause he's such a sourpuss) at Isle of Wight 1969 forgot the lyrix [honestly who could remember them all, anywhat) & sang the same line 3X----then decided to use it as an example of his performing on his own alb !
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If ya'ain't heard it.,, y'll have to find a copy b/c they seem to've scrubbed it from the Net.
It's worth hearing just for the fact of the mistake I mentioned.

However that Idjit Wind track above's a great way to respond to them who're sure they know what when they don't.
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#2847700 - 04/07/17 01:38 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: d]
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I didn't look into who was signing and playing it, but they did a very decent job. A lot of Dylan's YouTubes have been pulled. I did like the cool pictures and the lyrics during the slide presentation...definitely shows Bob's poetic side. His voice changes with the times, how much he drinks/smokes or whatever and I'm sure it doesn't sound as sweet as the one in the video LOL! But, I really love Bob's voice, while many others can't stand it and say he can't sing. I even love it when he can't sing LOL! Yeah I used to have the album Self Portrait, but it's been a long time since I listened to it on vinyl... cool


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#2847731 - 04/07/17 03:15 PM Re: CONGRATULATION BOB DYLAN [Re: Larryz]
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Hard for me to pick a favorite, been a Dylan"freak" for so long, but gun to head, for lyrics, I'd pick this:

https://youtu.be/mYajHZ4QUVM


But the studio version does sound better.
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