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#2806437 - 09/26/16 09:46 PM viscount by KeyB Organ
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Viscount Organs Corporation
https://www.facebook.com/ViscountOrgansCorporation/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

By now I've committed to the XK-5, expected arrival date 10/11, but competition is healthy...the more clones the better!

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#2806441 - 09/26/16 10:41 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: JohnnyB3]
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Looks pretty yummy.
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#2806453 - 09/27/16 04:28 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: mate stubb]
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As far as cosmetics is concerned, to me the original reddish brown sides looked better.

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#2806456 - 09/27/16 05:14 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: John64]
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Half moon switch protrudes out quite a bit!
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#2806457 - 09/27/16 05:20 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: b3boy]
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Originally Posted By: b3boy
Half moon switch protrudes out quite a bit!


That's actually a 2/3 moon switch. laugh
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#2806462 - 09/27/16 05:37 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: Synthoid]
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For anyone worrying about products from Viscount they have service centers here in the States where a UPS truck comes by and picks up your unit and ships it both ways free of charge.
Oberheim MC3000 is 20 years old, never a problem.
My K4 did break down when I mistakenly stuck my Midget Porn USB Drive into the back thinking it was the latest upgrade from the website.
Had to use a PX-3S for 2 weeks, and got back my K4.

Totally pleased with Viscount, as for their hardware, I gig constantly and never once had any issues other than my SSD/USB stick stunt.

Key B seemed risky to me.
Saw what happened in Columbia, Missouri.
If I lived in Columbia, maybe I could tolerate the shortcomings.
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#2806472 - 09/27/16 06:33 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: hardware]
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#2806477 - 09/27/16 06:37 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware

Oberheim MC3000 is 20 years old, never a problem.


You're lucky - mine started intermittently locking up on me after about 4 years and I eventually dumped it on some Russian guy in NY coming off a 4 day vodka drinking binge. They didn't have the service program you describe at that time although I was able to contact someone in Italy and they hand delivered an updated ROM chip to me at the NAMM show. I thought that was pretty cool although unfortunately it didn't fix the problem.

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#2806479 - 09/27/16 06:41 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: Markyboard]
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I know it's got a lot better shot of happening note with the viscount involved. But we've seen pictures, videos, web sites, of the soon to be released Legend for a long time now. I'm going to say, "i'll believe it when I see it" until this thing is actually in stock at a US dealer.
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#2814135 - 11/07/16 06:46 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Nice summary:

http://viscountorgans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/KeyB-Legend-leaflet.pdf

- Internal Power supply
- 11pin out
- FX send/return
- Aux in
- Pedal direct out
- 18kg (Live)
- 1899 Euros (live)

-> yummy !!!
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#2814178 - 11/07/16 09:30 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: M_G]
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#2814280 - 11/07/16 05:23 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: Delaware Dave]
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My favorite drawbar clone was a Viscount..Purchased it used in late eighties. Only got rid of it because I hooked up with a band who dropped tuned, cappoed up, played chords sideways, changed keys every week, and the organ (and organist) had no transpose ability...

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#2814287 - 11/07/16 06:17 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: M_G]
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Originally Posted By: M_G

Nice summary:

http://viscountorgans.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/KeyB-Legend-leaflet.pdf

- Internal Power supply
- 11pin out
- FX send/return
- Aux in
- Pedal direct out
- 18kg (Live)
- 1899 Euros (live)

-> yummy !!!
;-)



My brother,

Where did you find this super secret leaflet that has not been printed or published on their website?

site:viscountorgans.net Key B

site:viscountinstruments.com Key B

Did someone un-officially leak it on their forums?
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#2814291 - 11/07/16 06:55 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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39 lbs. About the same weight as Mojo.
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#2814334 - 11/08/16 04:45 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: mate stubb]
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Is there any price known for the Legend (not Live)?
Going by what I've heard in the demos so far I really love the sound.

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#2814335 - 11/08/16 04:48 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: John64]
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AFAIK: Legend 2599 Euros
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#2815145 - 11/12/16 04:49 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: M_G]
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Originally Posted By: M_G

AFAIK: Legend 2599 Euros

Thanks for the reply.
I'm still undecided which one I should get, the Legend means 700 Euros more than the Live, and I'm also curious how the keybed feels and how it responds.

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#2815162 - 11/12/16 06:34 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: mate stubb]
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39 Lbs is for the Live.
The weight for the Legend was posted at one point online - but I can't find the link now. I think it's about 48 lbs. Not bad for 2 manuals and the reverse keys.
Pat Bianchi continues to use his Live (the original model) around town here in NYC and it sounds wonderful.
I couldn't wait for this any longer, so I ordered an XK-5. it's out, but the pedals are not out yet, maybe next week. I also have an original numa. I'll compare them. Hopefully will have this done by December.

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#2815177 - 11/12/16 08:15 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: JohnnyB3]
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According to the Viscount leaflet the weight for the Legend is 46,29 lbs, or 21 kg.
That's not bad indeed.

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#2815195 - 11/12/16 10:20 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: John64]
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I wonder if this is a straight up distribution agreement or another licensing agreement with KeyB. If it is a technology licensing agreement then good luck.


Edited by CEB (11/12/16 10:22 AM)
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#2849776 - 04/16/17 06:34 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: CEB]
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Originally Posted By: CEB
I wonder if this is a straight up distribution agreement or another licensing agreement with KeyB. If it is a technology licensing agreement then good luck.




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#2849833 - 04/16/17 12:48 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: Six-string-man]
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#2849876 - 04/16/17 03:35 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: jamienewman]
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I am very quickly losing interest in the Viscount Legend Live. I had a great preorder opportunity to buy in and my common sense told me to wait and see how this clone was really playing out.

At the time they said they would be here in March, then it was April, then last I heard there were production problems. Maybe May.... maybe not.
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#2849881 - 04/16/17 04:43 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: jeffinpghpa]
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#2849892 - 04/16/17 06:07 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: Delaware Dave]
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As the local endorsee and now distributor for Australia, I can confirm these are shipping in May.
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#2849906 - 04/16/17 07:18 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: dazzjazz]
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Originally Posted By: dazzjazz
As the local endorsee and now distributor for Australia, I can confirm these are shipping in May.

Hey Dazz let us know when you have a Live I can check out in the flesh. I've finally got the Mojo dialed in but I'm very interested in seeing how the Live compares.
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#2850808 - 04/21/17 08:40 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: John Tweed]
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Parade starting soon, will be led by Elvio himself through the streets of Italy to the airport!

http://www.b3guys.com/Viscount+Legend+Organ.html/product_id/569


Edited by Jg53 (04/21/17 08:52 AM)

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#2850817 - 04/21/17 09:05 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: Jg53]
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Dazz, how much of an improvement in sound is the Legend over the Mk111. HOW is it better? I'm pretty happy with my Mk111 but would consider a Legend if the sound was (in the opinion of a long-time Mk111 owner - YOU) significantly better (more authentic?) and because of the prospect of better long-range product support.

chas
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#2850830 - 04/21/17 11:11 AM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By: cgiles
Dazz, how much of an improvement in sound is the Legend over the Mk111. HOW is it better? I'm pretty happy with my Mk111 but would consider a Legend if the sound was (in the opinion of a long-time Mk111 owner - YOU) significantly better (more authentic?) and because of the prospect of better long-range product support.

chas


Here's a reply from Pat Bianchi to me when I asked the same question:

"They are 2 different organs for sure. I like how the Legend cuts sonically, also the overall attack of the instrument is much better. Really fast response."
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#2850857 - 04/21/17 12:53 PM Re: viscount by KeyB Organ [Re: mate stubb]
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Thanks. A super fast attack suits my playing style. I'm seriously considering taking the plunge but I've got to get rid of SOMEthing first; four organs may be a tad overkill (for some smile ). I also want to replace my PK7a with the new pedalboard (I never got comfortable with straight pedals).

chas


Edited by cgiles (04/21/17 12:57 PM)
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