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#2822767 - 12/21/16 03:19 PM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: ProfD]
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#2822769 - 12/21/16 03:24 PM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: davedoerfler]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Hey D'
chew on some TUMS.
It will pass. laugh

Yeah Dave, I'm hoping it will be that simple. grin cool
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#2826631 - 01/08/17 10:03 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: ProfD]
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I'm looking forward to trying out this synth. Regarding the plug-outs, I've always considered the Juno-106 to be a "poor man's" Jupiter-8. Given an on-board Jupiter, I'm wondering how much I would use the the Juno. What Juno-106 patch couldn't be accomplished, and even improved upon, with a Jupiter-8?
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#2826684 - 01/08/17 03:31 PM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: Moonglow]
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Originally Posted By: Moonglow
I'm looking forward to trying out this synth. Regarding the plug-outs, I've always considered the Juno-106 to be a "poor man's" Jupiter-8. Given an on-board Jupiter, I'm wondering how much I would use the the Juno. What Juno-106 patch couldn't be accomplished, and even improved upon, with a Jupiter-8?

The plug-out allows the System 8 to replicate the nuances of that particular synth i.e. Juno 106 or Jupiter 8. Otherwise, it should be possible to program a similar patch using either plug-out including the native System 8.

The System 8 is the front-runner in satisfying my poly synth needs. cool
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#2826786 - 01/09/17 02:29 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
What I noticed instead is that the System-8 is ACB based, which someone did specify in the first post, but I forgot that System-1 was AIRA based.

So now I'm thoroughly confused, as System-8 will ship with ACB PLUG-OUTS, but the old PLUG-OUTS will be modified to work with System-8.

https://www.roland.com/global/products/system-8/

So does this mean that ACB actually derives from AIRA and is a newer generation? I thought we had found out earlier that they are two different development teams at Roland, with little (if any) crossover even though much of the intent is the same?


ACB is the technology on which both the AIRA and the Boutique product lines are built, as well as the System-8.
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#2826798 - 01/09/17 05:03 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: marczellm]
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I thought the boutique line had a lower audio processing rate than the AIRA?
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#2826872 - 01/09/17 10:17 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: RABid]
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#2827458 - 01/11/17 07:51 PM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: CEB]
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Thanks to marczellm; I had sort of reached the same conclusion based on a few posts I saw elsewhere, but it did seem to run contrary to statements on this forum a year or so ago about them being different development teams with no cross-pollination.

It's been a week since I've checked, but it looks like the new plug-outs aren't available as VST/AU plug-ins yet, and Roland said something to the effect that it's hard to do and takes them awhile with each new plug-out but that it is a goal for each one.
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#2832600 - 02/01/17 07:54 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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#2832603 - 02/01/17 08:06 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: CEB]
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I got to demo a System-8. Very nice instrument but I think I'm going to hold out for the Rev 2. $500 more gets true analog, 8 more voices, and 5 octave keyboard.

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#2832606 - 02/01/17 08:15 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: DulceLabs.com]
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Originally Posted By: DulceLabs.com
I got to demo a System-8. Very nice instrument but I think I'm going to hold out for the Rev 2. $500 more gets true analog, 8 more voices, and 5 octave keyboard.


So that's 16 voice analog synth with 5 octaves for $2000? When is it going to be available?

EDIT: I see, you're talking about DSI Rev 2. I thought there's going to be another synth by Roland.


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#2832608 - 02/01/17 08:27 AM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: U.Honey]
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I got to demo a System-8. Very nice instrument but I think I'm going to hold out for the Rev 2. $500 more gets true analog, 8 more voices, and 5 octave keyboard.


So that's 16 voice analog synth with 5 octaves for $2000? When is it going to be available?

EDIT: I see, you're talking about DSI Rev 2. I thought there's going to be another synth by Roland.


Sorry I wasn't clear. Yes it's a Dave Smith. No word on ship date. BTW - You can also get an 8-voice model of the Rev 2 for $1,500. The synth war is really heating up and we are reaping the spoils! like

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#2832678 - 02/01/17 01:02 PM Re: Roland System-8 [Re: DulceLabs.com]
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The Roland System 8 inspired me to consider a poly synth. I still think it sounds very good. But, I'm glad I didn't buy one.

IMO, the Behringer DeepMind 12 crushes the System 8 across the board (no pun intended). Of course, the jury is still out on Behringer product reliability.

I believe Roland and every other manufacturer will have to drop their poly synth prices in order to compete.

Again, I'm not saying the Behringer DeepMind 12 is a game-changer but it is definitely going to sell a lot of units. cool
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