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#2790843 - 07/15/16 12:56 PM Roland Rhodes MK-80
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I am not familiar with this keyboard but it sounds interesting. I know Herbie Hancock and Tony Banks used them years ago. What would be a good buying price? Or is it not worth buying. It is in excellent condition. Any feedback would be appreciated. I know like i really need another keyboard but it sounds interesting on videos.

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#2790848 - 07/15/16 01:04 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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i had one back in the day. REALLY liked the action. The Rhodes sounds at the time I remembered as really good. The AP samples not so much. It's got a big flat space on top that will easily let you place another KB on it. My other not so fond memory was that it was HEAVY as hell- easily 100 lbs in the case I lugged it around in. I got tired of hauling it and eventually gave it to a buddy of mine. He still plays it, but it never leaves his house.....

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#2790851 - 07/15/16 01:14 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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You are correct in calling it a keyboard. It is not an electro mechanical piano as were the previous models. I can't imagine you couldn't get the sounds in the MK-80 in something else you already have.
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#2790852 - 07/15/16 01:16 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: area51recording]
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It uses Roland's SA synth engine, used in the famous MKS-20, RD-1000, VK-1000, etc.

They are very responsive to the player, the vibes sound is probably the best, and the others are not that authentic, but the Piano 3 and Rhodes sounds have created their own category in the pantheon of 80's keyboard sounds like the DX-7 tines sound.


Edited by mate stubb (07/15/16 01:20 PM)
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#2790857 - 07/15/16 01:33 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: mate stubb]
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Yea i know its a digital keyboard not like the rhodes with the mechanical parts. I like my Rhodes sounds on the Kronos and Nord. But it is only $600 including case and stand. Seems like it would be fun to play at home. How are the built in effects?
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#2790858 - 07/15/16 01:35 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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Basic chorus, reverb, tremolo I believe.
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#2790864 - 07/15/16 01:57 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: mate stubb]
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I have a friend who had one it suffered from the Roland Red Glue Syndrome on the keys,(or so he told me)
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#2790866 - 07/15/16 02:02 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: HAM&EGZ]
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Can get it for $500 in EC. Main deal breaker is weight.
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#2790876 - 07/15/16 02:39 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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It's hard to say it's worth buying any classics with just about all the patches from so many of these digital and analogue machines having been sampled repeatedly. And gigging wise, it can be a bit cringe worthy playing on a 20 year old synth wether pots and encoders, faders, buttons, displays etc. could go any day. But for home, studio, hobby, interest in classics, sure why not for the right price.

http://www.fenderrhodes.com/pianos/roland.html

One on eBay for $900 with half the display not working.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLAND-RHODES-MK-80-PIANO-/131876551961?hash=item1eb4747d19:g:GTMAAOSw0kNXhk0Y



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#2790904 - 07/15/16 05:34 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Hi! I actually own one of these, and it has been residing in my living room for a few years now. It is indeed based upon SA synthesis, and along with the original RD-1000 it probably has the greatest number of sonic editing options of the SA-based keyboards. SA synthesis tends to sound great when played live at high volumes, but not so much at room volumes or when recording. Onboard effects include tremolo, phaser, dual chorus and a 4 band eq. The action & playability are SUPERB (better than my Motif ES-8, actually). It is a weighted hammer-based action, but light and fast with a very even response and complete, full dynamic range. In my home it takes the place of a living room baby grand, with the bonus of being MIDI-capable. The primary drawback is weight, as it it simply too heavy to gig with. But as a practice/rehearsal board and MIDI controller it is still impressive even by today's standards.
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#2790910 - 07/15/16 06:20 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: The_Star_Guy]
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I bought one for the purpose of sampling, which I did. It was in quite excellent shape. I did go through and completely clean the cat hair out of the action and elsewhere. Pulling out the keybed and you really get a feel for why it weighs so much. The action assembly seemed like a good 40 lbs. at least. The sampling came out well but I haven't finished it up yet. The unit will sell on Reverb for $300 when listed.

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#2790912 - 07/15/16 06:28 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: burningbusch]
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I may pass or see if he will lower price. I am starting to buy some vintage or classic gear. It is in excellent condition with road case with caster wheels.
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#2790921 - 07/15/16 08:12 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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I believe the RD-800 & the FA-06 has that sound that pretty much nails it.
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#2790922 - 07/15/16 08:17 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: rickzjamm]
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Concerning the weight... as much as I belly ache on the weight of keyboards today I forget how much heavier they were back in the 70's & the 80's, looking at it that way we are so lucky in the diversity & lighter options that are available. So I agree that the vintage KB should be the studio centerpiece for recording and sampling & the newer KB's go on the road.
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#2790926 - 07/15/16 09:13 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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The Roland Rhodes is S/A synthesis,- some kind of EARLY physical modelling using samples as references.

You DONīT experience any velocity jumps as you do w/ other keyboards using samples only.

The acoustic piano is the weakest sound similar to the one in a Roland MKS20,- but works well in some style/context and where it has to "cut thru" everything on stage or in a playback.

I still own a MK80 and shortly overhauled it, replaced tact switches as well as keyboard landing felts.
Itīs action is worth it alone.

Once tweaked to taste, I liked the "Rhodes sounds" even not being authentic in detail according to the pure tone.
Same rules for the Clavinet.
Both are very usable so and as Mate Stubb said above, the Vibes are excellent.

Now, the FX, which are ANALOG (the complete FX board inside the MK-80 is) but digitally controlled and storable in memory, make the "Classic" Rhodes in bank A 1-8 very usable in bands as also recordings.

The EQ is effective, the phaser and chorus are excellent and what you expect from Roland in that department.
The tremolo works as it should even itīs not the same we know from vintage suitcase Rhodes pianos which sounds more like square wave amplitude modulation than sine or triangle.
The FX are very low noise too.

MIDI latency is very low because of simplicity of the instrument.
Pitchbend, modulation, sustain, connectivity for a freely programmable CC-pedal or momentary switch and 4 freely programmable sliders,- all individual for internal and external ZONE,- make it a usable MIDI controller as also you can store a MIDI Prg.-Change number, being transmitted on an individual MIDI channel, into each single preset out of 64.

The action and player/sound connectivity is very good WHEN you like heavy actions.

Itīs a very reliable instrument surviving road treatment for a very long time.

It has a flat top, deep enough for 76-keys and 61-keys keyboards like DX7mkII, KX76, Kurz PC3/361,- just to get the idea of dimensions and weight possible.

I use it triggering the KURZ PC361īs acoustic pianos and epianos as well as for DAW work when a weighted 88keys action is needed.

Nonetheless, I use some internal sounds from MK80 too.
I donīt use any factory sound, only tweaked ones and tweakability goes beyond EQ and FX though.

Ice on the cake for DIY:

The input to the analog FX board inside the MK80 is already analog, so the DA is at the output of the digital circuit board.
At that point, the signal is mono and therefore ideal for modding it w/ an analog mono FX loop for "guitar type" stompboxes and wah-pedal.

Only the (analog) FX board makes the signal stereo at the output of the MK80.

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#2790927 - 07/15/16 09:20 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: Al Coda]
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I owned a MK-80 back in the day. Great action, very playable and has a very good key to sound connection (even through midi). The one drawback you may want to be aware of is that the key width is a non-standard size. i.e. The keys are slimmer than the standard piano keys available in most of today's piano beds. As such, the keybed from end to end is smaller.

Just be sure you're comfortable with that.

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#2790929 - 07/15/16 10:08 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: BernMeister]
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I still keep my mom's home version, I forget the model but it's got the SA engine with built in speakers. Still fun to play it.
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#2790973 - 07/16/16 09:47 AM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: mate stubb]
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My VK1000 stays at the rehearsal den. Not quite the same animal but a close relative of the MK80. It depends on my mood, but am often amazed how good the VK's Rhodes sounds with the group. Barks nicely with a slap of the keys. Decent onboard effects and some surprisingly deep editing available. Makes for a fantastic midi controller, too. The big, flat top fits other boards on it for an instant extra tier; even 76 keys fit with ease.
However, the 1/4 inch outs are scratchy and there's obnoxious 60hz hum through the XLR outs, and the display is dimming so she'll require some TLC before hitting the stage again. Besides the thing is too big to fit in my small car.
Still glad to have it.
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#2790977 - 07/16/16 09:59 AM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: bennyray]
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If you do decide to check in again with him, please be sure to check the action first, to make sure that it is not bottoming out from being played too hard for too long. There is a felt strip underneath the keys that might need to be replaced. Also be sure to check the condition & operation of all of the buttons especially, as they do fail, and that might become the biggest hurdle if the wrong one fails. Finally, check the LCD screen for proper operation. There are also service manuals available on Ebay. Since mine does not move, it is in great condition for home studio use as a centerpiece 88 note controller. The Roland pitch-bend & Mod paddle actually works well on this unit. Good luck!
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#2791002 - 07/16/16 12:41 PM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: brenner13]
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Originally Posted By: brenner13
My VK1000 stays at the rehearsal den. Not quite the same animal but a close relative of the MK80. It depends on my mood, but am often amazed how good the VK's Rhodes sounds with the group. Barks nicely with a slap of the keys.


+1. When I had a VK-1000 I was amazed and delighted to find that you could dial the various parts of the SA rhodes sound from the drawbars. In that sense, the VK-1000 had the most tweakable SA Rhodes ever.
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#2791108 - 07/17/16 07:29 AM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: mate stubb]
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I have a VK1000 that is in REAL rough shape. Weights falling off the keys, a couple broken keys. I haven't powered it on in years. It was at my percussion players house for a long time and he brought it back, I put it in the basement and didn't power it up. It was my main organ sound for a long time, thru a Motion Sound. I used it to trigger a JV880 for acoustic pianos and other sounds, and would blend their EP's together with midi.
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#2791398 - 07/19/16 01:57 AM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: DanL]
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Are there any existing sample libraries of this thing?







Edited by BRW (07/19/16 01:58 AM)

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#2937310 - 07/11/18 08:19 AM Re: Roland Rhodes MK-80 [Re: BRW]
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I have the OLD Roland RD300 and RD200. Apparently that SA engine found its way to the MKS20 and MK80. The 300 stays in studio, love the action, hate the weight. Love piano 3. It just works, on so many levels. And when folks mention the fingers to sound responsiveness, they are spot on.

Perhaps others can speak to this, but the one annoying problem with old Rolands I've had over the years is the contacts. Every few years they get dirty and it behaves badly i.e. some notes are dead, some extremely loud. Cleaning them is a pain, and getting new contacts virtually impossible.

Off topic, I just downloaded the Nord version of Roland MK80. Very nice. It's the piano, some hybrid of 1, 2, and 3. You can get a great approximation of each thru EQ and FX.
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