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Putting together a pedalboard for 50s-60s #2771928
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Oozing (edit: trying) to put together a pedalboard for 50s Rock n roll and some 60s tunes.

I. Thinking I need Delay,echo,compression,reverb,tremolo, power,and a tuner.

My shortlist so far:

Boss Space Echo Re-20
TC Electronic Alter Ego x4 echo and delay
T-Rex Fuel tank jr
Tc polytune 2
MXR Dyna comp or super Comp
Boss TR-2
Gator g tour small case pedalboard

So for that kind of sound what pedal should I look at?

I already have reverb sorted.

I like that the Alter Ego has 3 presets and can tinker with tone print , nod loads the flashback tone prints to.




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Personally not a big fan of the Dyna Comp compressor. I really prefer compressors with a blend knob. I use the Wampler Ego but you don't need that. I like it a lot but it is a $200 compressor. That could be overkill for a 50s & 60s band. Any compressor with a blend knob is good. There is basically only 2 compressor circuits in wide spread use. They either copy the Ross circuit or the Dyna Comp circuit. ( Well maybe 3 I guess there is the old oranger squeezer circuit )


Compressors are way easier to zero in with the blend control. Compression murders your highs and your initial attack. With the clean blend you can bring your your initial pick attack and highs back into the final sound while getting all the squish you want.

As far as Compressors without Blend controls I liked the Comp 66 from Visual Sound. Mine was built into the Route 66 pedal which includes a Tube Screamer clone.


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The older MXR Compressor worked very well for a clean boost for lead work. I agree with CEB and would forget the MXR Dyna Comp. It will work well in front of a distortion but is not that great as a stand alone. I like my Tech21 Blonde for a quality clean boost and/or any others recommended by our forumites should do the job.

I've heard too many negatives on the TC pedals on this forum to even look at them. You probably won't need the polytune if you go for the Boss TU3 tuner which will run your other pedals with the daisy chain accessory. For a Delay Echo, I like my MXR Carbon Copy and/or my Keeley Memphis Sun...The Carbon copy will run on the 9v daisy but the Keeley must use an AC/DC wart. They both work very well for 50's, 60's, 70's, etc. Reverb is a must pedal IMHO, unless you already have a Fender spring reverb amp...

just a few thoughts... cool

ps. my Fender Floor can do all of the above, but they don't make them anymore. You would have to find a used one...

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I like Korg tuners. Inexpensive, tough, and accurate.

I personally don't use compression, but of I ever change my mind, the forts one I buy will be from Visual Sound/TrueTone. Either the Comp 66 or the Route 66 OD/Comp (V2 or V3 only, due to the stronger enclosures) should do the job.

Reverb.com search
Beyond that?


Tremolo pedals I like:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/tremolo-vibrato-effects-pedals/red-witch-pentavocal-tremolo-pedal

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/S...h0p5hoCMb_w_wcB


Echo/Delay pedals I like:

https://reverb.com/item/2052093-catalinb...A4hxxoCP0_w_wcB

https://reverb.com/item/1417710-catalinb...xpress-shipping

https://reverb.com/item/165461-boss-re-20-space-echo-delay-reverb-bundle-green

https://reverb.com/item/1893645-line-6-echo-park-delay

http://vintageking.com/caroline-guitar-company-kilobyte-vk-edition

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Compressor pedal? THIS:

Homebrew Electronics Compressor Retro (HBE CPR) for $90.00 US or best offer on Reverb dot com

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Vintage Ross-based compressor, upgraded and improved over the original Ross Compressor pedals. I own an earlier model HBE CPR without the Attack/blend control, and I love mine; it's especially excellent for single-coil and vintage-toned/output pickups, and particularly sheer MAGIC with a Telecaster style axe. The Attack control surely makes this pedal all the more versatile and even better suited to a wider range of guitars and pickups. I think that CEB would approve. It's also quieter and less 'hissy' than most compressor pedals. If you don't buy this one, I just might as soon as I can, just for the addition of that Attack control.

Echo? I love my Strymon El Capistan. If the Boss Space Echo RE-20 will do it for you at all, the El Capistan will do it MUCH better for you, in spades. It's three different types of tape-echo machines in one pedal. Like the original Roland Space Echo, there is a tanky, kinda weird spring-reverb option available to add in your choice of amount (or none at all) along with the tape-echo.

I've gotta admit that the Keeley Memphis Sun pedal seems mighty tasty, Larryz! It sure seems to suit Rikismyname's mission-statement, and I think I'd like one, myself- I'd likely leave it on A LOT of the time, even when using my El Capistan, for slap-back into longer ecoes...

Tremolo and reverb? I love my Strymon Flint. Reverb > Tremolo is THE classic tremolo sound, and the Flint does this very, very well, indeed, closely impersonating three very different classic vintage Fender tube-amp Tremolo circuits and their sounds, and three different flavors of reverb, one of them "blackface"/"silverface" Fender tube-amp Reverb, with greatly expanded dwell (reverb length) and tone capabilities. (You can also select Tremolo > Reverb, but... the most classic order of these two effects is so delicious that it may never seem necessary... ) Truly two (or more!) pedals in one.

Both of these Strymon pedals, separately or together, would do you VERY, VERY well for your stated mission. cool


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What kind of 50s and 60s tunes?

You might want a nasty fuzz? wink

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Did someone say nasty fuzz?
Gentlebeings, I present the Solidgoldfx Sasori:





https://reverb.com/item/1930980-solidgoldfx-sasori-fuzz


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OP here.

Songs:
Shakin all over
Brand new Cadillac
That'll be the day
20 flight Rock
Bad boy
Rock around the clock tonight etc.

No fuzz needed lol.

How come there's no love for the Tc electronic pedals then ?

I need something that can save at least one delay preset because I'll be going from Rhythm playing/picking and strumming to shakin all over longer delays and can't be fiddling with my Knobs while playing live.
That's why I thought the TC Alter Ego would do the job as it has loads of choices of effect and you can call up 3 presets.

The keeley Memphis sun sounds nice, but again won't I have to keep turning stuff Inbetween songs?

Compression I have no idea, I just saw a reasonably priced Mxr that looked nice in red wink.
What about an Xotic SP I hear they are good?

I'm in the UK and can't seem to find a Memphis Sun to demo.

Regarding the Strymon Capistan - never heard of this pedal, is it like an echo/delay pedal then I gather?

Now I'm thinking maybe what I need is a Boss RE-20 Space Echo plus a carbon copy pedal for the other delays I need?

Or to tidy it all up a Line 6 M9 was recommended to me by a fellow guitarist but the small number of multifx I've tried have left me with a meh feeling.

I think with the boss tu-3 and the Polytune 2 you can daisy chain1 correct me if I'm wrong though.

For about £400 budget for pedals alone what would be on your shortlist for the above songs?
I have a Tc HOF for reverb.

I can borrow a Hotone Supa Trem to try also that the other guitarist said he could lend me.


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That pedal looks nice but I'm in the U.K and I'd rather buy from local music shop or online from Dv247/GAK/PMTmusic/andertons.


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Also is there any opinions on Mooer pedals?
I can see Mooer do all sorts of pedal that are mini like this delay
http://www.gak.co.uk/en/mooer-audio-ana-echo-analogue-delay-pedal/74462

For the prices of the mooers I could set them up differently next to each other and switch over maybe


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname


How come there's no love for the Tc electronic pedals then ?


Or to tidy it all up a Line 6 M9 was recommended to me by a fellow guitarist but the small number of multifx I've tried have left me with a meh feeling.


Too many of us have run into serious issues with the newer T.C. Electronics gear, pedals and rack gear, both. The Toneprint pedals have the switches mounted directly on the circuit boards, which means you can break your circuit board with aggressive stomping; once you do, the repair cost is close to buying a whole new pedal.

Their customer service also leaves much to be desired. Between the two issues, most of us have chosen to avoid their products.

As far as multi-effects, I'm a big fan of the Boss GT-series effects, but there are trade-offs with any multi-effects. I have a small Line 6 M5, which I've been very pleased with, and one of our members recently switched from a Boss GT-3 to a Line 6 M13, as his main multi-effects processor.


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+1 Caevan, the Memphis Sun could be left on all the time just to fine tune any amp's reverb sound... thu

+2 Winston, great answers on the TC problems and on the Line 6 M13. I'm not sure of the money conversion but $500 US should fit the budget as you would have all the pedals and presets you could ask for in the OP's genre or anyother... twothumbs


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Regarding the Strymon Capistan - never heard of this pedal, is it like an echo/delay pedal then I gather?


Yeah, the Strymon El Capistan is a tape-echo flavored pedal, with three modes replicating three different types of vintage tape-echo machines, LOADS of features, and tap-tempo. I absolutely LOVE mine- when the Wow & Flutter type modulation and "Krinkle" worn-tape character are turned up, it adds a wonderful spongy, squishy, bouncy feel and color to my playing. It can also store one Favorite set of control-settings in memory, that can be recalled at any time with an additional small "Tap/Favorite Switch", and then returned to whatever the actual given control-settings are at the time.

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+1 Caevan, the Memphis Sun could be left on all the time just to fine tune any amp's reverb sound... thu


I'd be diggin' that fat, warm, retro slapback... I could be tempted to just leave that on most of the time, even when using longer delay-timed echoes with my El Capistan. grin I'm kind of an echo junky...

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That's a shame about the TC electronics pedal, I had 3 or 4 of their pedals on my shortlist!

So I'm thinking I need to go to a music shop and try
Boss space echo RE-20
Keeley Memphis Sun
Mooer ana echo
And even a Line 6 M9 to see what I can do.

With the keeley Memphis would you use the reverb built into your amp or another pedal or use the reverb from the keeley Memphis pedal?

I'm more of a set and forget type, I like to find a sound save it , or just not touch it unless I'm adjusting reverb or eq.


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Don't know that one, but I'm a fan of Keeley pedals.


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
With the keeley Memphis would you use the reverb built into your amp or another pedal or use the reverb from the keeley Memphis pedal?

I'm more of a set and forget type, I like to find a sound save it , or just not touch it unless I'm adjusting reverb or eq.


It depends on how you have it set, what you're using it for- it does more than one thing, has three Modes and a wide variety of ways that you can set their controls. It'll do a really nice vintage '50s and '60s style slap-back echo, short delay/multi repeats echoes, and longer echoes (up to 666 milliseconds, if I recall correctly), as well as reverb and Auto Double Tracking. Check out these videos:

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On most reverb pedals, I like leaving them off and use the amp reverb for my stock setting until I want more for surf or for certain songs. With the Keeley, I like to just dial in the sweet spot and leave it on. I can leave it off while practicing until the mood hits me and then I hear how much it improves the amp when it's kicked on, even though it's subtle. You can get a mix of delay and reverb with one pedal, and you can go light or heavy with each, which kind of is cool...so, yes it can be used either way... cool


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Hey Rik - what guitars are you going to be driving these pedals with? What pickups are they loaded with?

It can make a pretty big difference, especially since you have a very specific genre in mind.

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Tele Baja with stock pick ups.


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After researching I'm thinking from what I've heard I'm going to try
Boss Tu-3
MXR Super Comp (with attack adjustment) but there is still a ? On this
Keeley Memphis Sun
Plus my Hall of fame reverb

I'll power the keeley with my 1 spot adapter then use another 1 spot adapter to power the Tu-3 and daisy chain to power the super comp and HOF reverb.

What you think?

Glad I came here , because after looking online TC Electronic products seem to have a lot of faults which are expensive to fix, I imagine the boss tuner will last forever even though I prefer the look and function of the Polytune I just can't be doing with switches breaking.

Some Mogami patch cables
Pedal train nano+
Some heavy duty Velcro.

That should do it, I just hope he keeley does the job, I'll add a mini delay pedal like the Mooer speecho or something later to so I have a different delay for certain songs


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I'm more of a set and forget type, I like to find a sound save it , or just not touch it unless I'm adjusting reverb or eq.


That's one of the main benefits of digital multi-effects; dial up your sound once, store it, and it's done. On units where you can name your sounds, as well, it's a great way to organize a set list within the multi-effects, and when you look down at your feet, you can quickly see that you've dialed up the Classic Surf Sound that you wanted, instead of the Rockabilly Twang you were using for Blue Suede Shoes.

I remember reading that there is a certain amount of variance among settings on potentiometers. Take six, or eight or ten Tube Screamers, and turn all the knobs to 12 o'clock, and you'll have a little difference among them. While a difference of +/- a few percent may not be critical when we're talking about the Drive knob on a Tube Screamer, it can amount to a good bit of difference if we're talking about the Delay Time knob on a Digital Delay. On my multi-effects, if I program a sound with 375ms of Delay, I know that I'll still have 375ms of Delay next time I turn it on.

One other thought; most pedalboards come with the Velcro you'll need, so you may be able to cross that expense off your list. (My Pedaltrain boards come with Velcro for the rails and the pedals.) Double-check when you buy or order your pedalboard.


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Tele Baja with stock pick ups.


I totally guarantee that the HBE CPR that I posted a link to above here would be SHEER MAGIC with your guitar- it's a fantastic combination with a Tele; classic recorded Tele sounds just pop out of your speakers. And, I mean, the guy only wants $90 (US$) for it- or you could make him an offer- THAT should be a killer deal for you, even with costs for shipping to the UK, right?

I'm telling ya, it's a better compressor pedal than any of the MXR offerings. Not to diss MXR, it's just that the HBE CPR is quieter, cleaner, and more 'natural' sounding and feeling. AND this one is CHEAP- used/Mint-Condition... ! crazy I'm hoping that it's still available when I can afford to buy it for myself, if you don't! grin I want it! It'll be better for my Les Paul than the HBE CPR that I already have, which doesn't have the Attack/blend control...

Someone else here bought an HBE CPR on my recommendation a few years ago, and was very happy with it. I'm trying to remember or search-up who it was...

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I'll power the keeley with my 1 spot adapter then use another 1 spot adapter to power the Tu-3 and daisy chain to power the super comp and HOF reverb.

What you think?


I like the 1 Spot power supplies; I have and use one. You may find that the HOF might work better with its own separate Power Supply, a lot of digital pedals will make weird hashy-hummy noises when daisy-chained for power. The same may or may not prove true with that Keeley Memphis Sun (man, what a sweet pedal! I want one, too... ).

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Pedal train nano+
Some heavy duty Velcro.


The Pedaltrain Nano should come with all the Velcro you'll need; and they have specific recommendations for using as little as necessary on the bottoms of your pedals, too, check their instructions and all that. I have a Pedaltrain 'board and LOVE it. Mine came with juuust a couple of inches or so less that I needed to really fully cover the 'board the way I wanted to; I asked the online retailer that I'd bought it from if they could send me just a short piece of the material, and Pedaltrain shipped me an entire roll of it completely free. Great company, great customer service and support- UNLIKE the current TC Electronic company (they USED to be a great co., as well)...


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Yeah it could see it comes with Velcro but I like the heavy duty stuff from Velcro, I need some more anyway for my keyboard stand.


Thanks for all the help and I may need to call on you again once it's here but I've ordered
Memphis Sun (was thinking boss RE-20 or something but I wanna see what the keeley is like)
Boss TU-3 (was gonna get the Polytune 2 but you've steered me away)
MXR Dyna Comp ( was going to get the EHX soul preacher or that pedal in America (home brew) but this will be here tomorrow to try which will give me 1 day before a full band rehearsal.

The Keeley will take longer to get here because I had to order from thomann in Germany.

I'll see what the reverb is like on the keeley and possibly sell the HOF and get a boss tr-2 Trem pedal.

I will have 2 1 spot 9v power adapter and a Mooer daisy chain .
I'm thinking I'll power the thunder and compressor,HOF off 1, and the Keeley off the other one possibly.

I really wanted to try the Xotic SP pedal but don't have the funds, hopefully the MXR Dyna comp will even out my telecaster a little without colouring the sound


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I've done the order but something called a Janglebox Nano has come up locally used for £85 with t-boost.. Is this any good? I have time to change my order for the Dyna comp


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If the Dyna-Comp isn't quite what you had in mind, the MXR Micro Amp is a good, simple Boost/Buffer. I had one at the front of my pedalboard for years, and only retired it because it's really old (original 80's). No tone coloration, just a little extra oomph! when you need it. It's also a great buffer for driving long pedal chains.


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I've done the order but something called a Janglebox Nano has come up locally used for £85 with t-boost.. Is this any good? I have time to change my order for the Dyna comp


THAT should prove to be a VERY GOOD deal and a very good compressor-pedal for you! As good or even better than the HBE CPR that I suggested, and a very good deal and local to you, to boot. JUMP on that immediately!!

Roger McGuinn, among many other greats, uses JangleBox compressor-pedals- need I say more?

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As for that Keeley Memphis Sun- I think you're gonna LOVE it. '50s/'60s sounds 'n' vibe 'n' Rockabilly 'n' such being your bailiwick, it should be WAAAY up your alley. cool I want one now, too. crazy Again, it does beautiful slap-back echo and Auto Double Tracking sounds; THOSE are the features that I want it for. It may or may not need to be run off its own Power Supply, or a good isolated PS such as that of a T-Rex Fuel Tank, Voodoo Lab Pedal Power, etc.


Speaking of classic, retro studio sounds, further on down the road in your future, you might really like the Strymon Decco, which simulates having two vintage studio reel-to-reel tape-machines in a stomp-box for various old-fashioned studio-tricks previously only attainable in old-fashioned studios. Another one that I want but don't yet have. Look that and the El Capistan up on Strymon's 'site 'n' check 'em out.

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Yeah it could see it comes with Velcro but I like the heavy duty stuff from Velcro, I need some more anyway for my keyboard stand.


If heavy-duty fastening-material is what you want, I suggest 3M Dual Lock; it is the very best. Some pedal-board users find it TOO heavy-duty! crazy Using that, your pedals will ONLY come off your 'board if you REALLY, REALLY insist they do. Good stuff; used in industrial applications such as passenger-trains where reliability and safety are paramount.


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The MXR Dyna comp has already shipped. All o want to do is even out my dynamics to fit better in a live mix, will the Dyna comp do that ok?

If not I'll try this Janglebox if it's still available.


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Cheers for the tip regarding Velcro, I find that this stuff is awesome, very strong and great quality .
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Velcro-Heavy-Duty-Stick-Black-VEL60241/dp/B00186Q9AK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460573437&sr=8-1&keywords=velcro+heavy+duty


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Let us know how it goes! Keep us posted!


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Cheers for the tip regarding Velcro, I find that this stuff is awesome, very strong and great quality .
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Velcro-Heavy-Duty-Stick-Black-VEL60241/dp/B00186Q9AK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460573437&sr=8-1&keywords=velcro+heavy+duty


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Sometimes getting those pedals back off the Velcro can be tough (which is good as you will know there's no way the pedals are going to fall off or move around on you). When you want to pull one off to change positions etc. and it's hard to get up and off, I found that slipping a flat strong butter/case knife under the pedal between the Velcro and pad and prying up works very well...I probably went a little overboard on the Velcro LOL! cool


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Right folks I'm back for more help smile.

Got the Keeley Memphis sun, love it,keeping it.

Got the MXR Dyna comp - not a fan - sending it back

Got HOF mini - great little pedal - not enough tweak able reverbs- sending it back.

So now I want a reverb pedal and maybe a tremolo or compression pedal.

For mainly rhythm guitar and a bit of lead what type of reverb should I be looking for for say Buddy holly 50s songs?

My list:
Strymon Flint
Boss FRV-1 + Mooer yellow comp
Boss RV-5 + Mooer yellow comp + boss tr-2
Any other I should look into?


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Got the Keeley Memphis sun, love it,keeping it.


I'm not surprised! I want one, too.

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Got the MXR Dyna comp - not a fan - sending it back


I'm not surprised! Noisy, hissy, 'breathing' 'n' 'pumping', attack-dulling pedal.

If that JB Nano is still available, you really should jump on it- I'd expect it to be much better than the Dyna Comp.


Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
So now I want a reverb pedal and maybe a tremolo or compression pedal.


I don't think that you could go wrong with the Strymon Flint; consider it TWO pedals, tremolo AND reverb- divide the cost by two and think of it as buying a trem' and a 'verb and it seems a lot more reasonable, eh?

I love mine, it's a keeper, for sure. I bet that when you try its '60s Spring or '70s Plate Reverb going into its '61 Harmonic or '63 Tube Tremolo, you'll be hooked. Plus, of course, you can use either its tremolo or reverb individually.

I actually like its '80s Rack Hall Reverb quite a bit, too, and I use that one the most; I expected the opposite. It brings a harmonic swirl and shimmer to the background that I really enjoy, especially with my El Capistan feeding it with its chewy, bouncy, elastic tape-flavored echoes with a lot of Wow & Flutter and Tape Crinkle dialed-in; modulation in the echoes and reverb, but not in my 'straight'-signal on top...


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For simple and affordable, the Boss TR-2 Tremolo is a good bet, and a decent sound.


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For simple and affordable, the Boss TR-2 Tremolo is a good bet, and a decent sound.


I can't disagree! cool


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I have to put in another pitch for the MXR Micro Amp, in place of that Dyna-Comp. I have an original 80's model, that I used for years as the front end of my various pedalboard configurations. A year or two back, I finally broke down and got a new one, just so I could safely retire the original.

Craig Anderton recommends the Micro Amp as a clean Boost/Buffer for the front of your pedalboard. I usually set mine so I can just hear a little boost when I cut it on; with my set-up, that puts the Gain knob just a hair past Noon. YEMV, of course.


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Right folks I'm back for more help smile.

Got the Keeley Memphis sun, love it,keeping it.

Got the MXR Dyna comp - not a fan - sending it back

Got HOF mini - great little pedal - not enough tweak able reverbs- sending it back.

So now I want a reverb pedal and maybe a tremolo or compression pedal.

For mainly rhythm guitar and a bit of lead what type of reverb should I be looking for for say Buddy holly 50s songs?

My list:
Strymon Flint
Boss FRV-1 + Mooer yellow comp
Boss RV-5 + Mooer yellow comp + boss tr-2
Any other I should look into?


Glad you liked the Memphis Sun by Keeley as they are not cheap, so I was hesitant on recommending it. I use the room reverb setting (switch down) for the most part but will head to the middle position sun mode for a little less reverb. In the up position it gets some good rockabilly slap back boogie with the guitar on the bridge pickup. For the other knob settings I run the Time and Reverb knobs around 2:30 o'clock pm, the Regan/Mod around 11:30 am, the Mix at 9:30 am...these would be good starting points to try. The changes are subtle. Leave it off and just use the amp reverb for awhile, then kick it on in the Reverb mode and you will notice the improved sound coming out of your amp...

For a clean boost, I still like the Tech21 Blonde. It will model the Fender amps. It will also go into full on OD/distortion for blues and whatever...but I really like the clean boost the best. Much better than a compressor IMHO. I knew you wouldn't care for the MXR Dyna Comp LOL! Anyway, have fun with the process of putting a board together! cool


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Cheers guys.

Yeah the Dyna comp took loads of the attack out, I can see it being useful but not for me. Will the Mooer yellow comp optical compressor be better?

The only thing holding me back from the tremolo is the fact that I only play 1 song that would need tremolo on so £240 for a reverb mostly is steep still.

That's why I was wondering about something else £70-£140.

I've only had a bout an hours play on the keeley Memphis sun so far but I can see me just leaving it on an changing modes and tweaking it when needed.
I'm also going to try the room reverb + my amp reverb to see if it sounds good or not later, if so that would save some money and I could get a better compressor or tremolo.


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Yeah the Dyna comp took loads of the attack out, I can see it being useful but not for me. Will the Mooer yellow comp optical compressor be better?


I think that the safe bet is, no. But I could be wrong.

That used JB Nano should be lots better... good deal, too...

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
The only thing holding me back from the tremolo is the fact that I only play 1 song that would need tremolo on so £240 for a reverb mostly is steep still.

That's why I was wondering about something else £70-£140.


Hehhehhehh... ! When I got my El Capistan echo and Flint tremolo/reverb, I suddenly started using echo and tremolo a LOT more often... ! crazy grin thu

Sorry if I seem pushy about the pricier Flint (and El Capistan). It's just that that is where I have the most experience with trem' and 'verb pedals, and these two are SO damn good... ! cool


Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I've only had a bout an hours play on the keeley Memphis sun so far but I can see me just leaving it on an changing modes and tweaking it when needed.
I'm also going to try the room reverb + my amp reverb to see if it sounds good or not later, if so that would save some money and I could get a better compressor or tremolo.


I think that I'd leave the Memphis Sun on a lot, myself. Tasty! Want one!


Now, I've found that a LOT of reverb, echo, and tremolo pedals will sound and feel different at gig-levels than at home-levels, and sometimes require different respective settings.

Note that tremolo almost always tricks the ear into perceiving an overall volume drop, seeming to lose all-around loudness and presence; one very useful feature of the Flint, particularly for live gigs, is the option of choosing up to +/- 3 decibels of boost or cut when the tremolo is engaged. The same goes for the reverb side of the pedal- separate from the tremolo side. I have mine set to boost when the tremolo is kicked-in.


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You might want to check out the Catalinbread Topanga or the Keeley Caverns or Aurora for reverb. Good pedals, average size footprint, not TOO pricey.

The Earthquaker Devices Ghost Echo and Levitation pedals are also solid options. They also offer the Disaster Transport family of pedals. The Jr is probably the one most in line with your budget. But it and the middle one are delay or delay & modulation. The Sr is the one that is delay, reverb & modulation all in one package.

You might also consider the Caroline Meteore.

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Thanks for the help Dannyalcatraz n caevan n larryz etc.

I decided to give the yellow comp a go after reading good things about it online, I'm also currently fighting with myself if I want a Strymon Flint or my Sony PlayStation 4 that's not being played lately that I could sell for a Flint


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I do not envy your dilemma.


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Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
I do not envy your dilemma.


It's nice to put my 1st board together as I normally play bass with no effects and keyboards.

My friend has suggested a Line 6 M5 all in 1 stomp on modeller.
He said its true bypass and when it's off it doesn't colour the tone and it has really good tremolo/reverb and delays that I may need.
Anyone have any Experiances ?

I am sceptical as its Line 6 which doesn't scream out vintage or top quality but from what I've read it's a good option to complete a pedalboard


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There are some really good modelers out there, but I can't say whether or not that is one of them.

Modelers can be very convenient. In my experience, though, that convenience comes at a cost- only the best ones have good models for all the included effects. There is always going to be some effect on them you don't like. And even within a brand, the quality of the models does not necessarily improve the more money you spend.

Don't get me wrong- I love the modelers I have. But I haven't spent the money to acquire one I'd feel comfy using as my go-to pedalboard. For me, modelers are great practice tools, but not a replacement for pedals.

All those caveats aside, look around and you should be able to find one that CAN do vintage quite nicely.

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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
I do not envy your dilemma.


It's nice to put my 1st board together as I normally play bass with no effects and keyboards.

My friend has suggested a Line 6 M5 all in 1 stomp on modeller.
He said its true bypass and when it's off it doesn't colour the tone and it has really good tremolo/reverb and delays that I may need.
Anyone have any Experiances ?

I am sceptical as its Line 6 which doesn't scream out vintage or top quality but from what I've read it's a good option to complete a pedalboard


I have an M5, and I've very pleased with it. I use it in conjunction with my Boss GT-10. Haven't noticed any tone coloration from it, except when I'm trying out the various OD/Dist options. The Filter effects are very cool, and very different from your usual Wah or Envelope Filter effects. There are a nice selection of Reverbs & Delay effects, and a few things you may not be looking for right now, like Pitch-Shifting and Ring Modulation. The main issue with the M5 is that you can only dial up one effect at a time, so you really have to decide where to put it, up front for Wah/OD/Pitch effects, or near the end of your signal chain for Trem/Verb/Delay?

In terms of bang for the buck, it's hard to beat, with just over 100 different effects models in one box. You'll also be able to store up to 24 different Patches?Effects, for different tunes, so you don't have to bend over and turn knobs between songs. If you need Reverb for one tune, Tremolo for another, and Tape Echo for a third, all of those sounds are in the M5, but you'll only be able to use one at a time, so you can have Reverb or Tremolo, but not Reverb & Tremolo. You'll also be able to name the patches, which really helps. Keep in mind that with any multi-effects box, you're probably paying for at least a few features that you'll hardly use, if ever, and the M5 has a lot of weird effects.

One last thought; if you do get an M5, get the Line 6 Expression pedal for it. You'll be able to use it to speed up & slow down your Modulation effects, fade Reverb/Delay tails in or out, punch up the Gain on an OD effect; anything you can control with the knobs, you can control with the Expression Pedal. Well worth the extra expense.


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Originally Posted By: Winston Psmith
The main issue with the M5 is that you can only dial up one effect at a time, so you really have to decide where to put it, up front for Wah/OD/Pitch effects, or near the end of your signal chain for Trem/Verb/Delay?

If you need Reverb for one tune, Tremolo for another, and Tape Echo for a third, all of those sounds are in the M5, but you'll only be able to use one at a time, so you can have Reverb or Tremolo, but not Reverb & Tremolo. You'll also be able to name the patches, which really helps. Keep in mind that with any multi-effects box, you're probably paying for at least a few features that you'll hardly use, if ever, and the M5 has a lot of weird effects.


Total deal-breakers for me. Personally, I wouldn't bother to look at it, let alone plug it in.


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My Fender Mustang Floor let's me use multiple pedals in FX mode and I can use them like a stomp box full of pedals. I can also switch to stored patches and stomp pedals in and out on the fly.
It allows me to use reverb and/or delay (with tap tempo), add tremolo if I want it, use the OD/distortion or not, use the compressor for a clean boost for lead/rhythm all simultaneously. I can also go direct to the PA with it. Too bad they quit making the pedal but you can find them used on Ebay. I would not want a multi effects pedal that only allows one effect at a time...Line 6 is a good multi effects pedal and the more expensive ones would be worth checking out like the M9 and M13... cool

ps. the Mustang Floor also has an effects loop which allows one to use their own pedal or pedal board at any time which is a cool feature...

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Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
Originally Posted By: Winston Psmith
The main issue with the M5 is that you can only dial up one effect at a time, so you really have to decide where to put it, up front for Wah/OD/Pitch effects, or near the end of your signal chain for Trem/Verb/Delay?

If you need Reverb for one tune, Tremolo for another, and Tape Echo for a third, all of those sounds are in the M5, but you'll only be able to use one at a time, so you can have Reverb or Tremolo, but not Reverb & Tremolo. You'll also be able to name the patches, which really helps. Keep in mind that with any multi-effects box, you're probably paying for at least a few features that you'll hardly use, if ever, and the M5 has a lot of weird effects.


Total deal-breakers for me. Personally, I wouldn't bother to look at it, let alone plug it in.


I got it as a supplemental effects unit, to place in the S/R loop of my GT-10, and I suspect a lot of the folks who buy the M5 are doing something similar with it. It does seem odd, to make a multi-effects unit that only offers one effect at a time, but WTH? It works for me.

The larger M9 and M13 units will let you chain multiple effects, like my GT-10, or your Digitech MFX, and they also include a built-in Looper. I didn't suggest an M9 or M13, because that would pretty much blow the budget.


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I like the idea of the m5 if you want 1 space to be a lot of things that perhaps you don't use that much but want a phaser or something you have one if you want a extra boost you have one etc.


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Right this has got my crazy brain thinking again.

I was chatting to a friend today about the Keeley Memphis Sun and was telling him I'm selling a few things to buy a Strymon Flint for its reverb and Tremolos for a 50s band and he said I should send the Keeley back and get a Strymon el Capistan as its more versatile and would go better with the Flint.

I do still have time to get a refund and do what he suggested , I like the Keeley a lot but obviously it does 1 thing, would an el Capistan be a move in the wrong direction pairing it with a Flint?

He also suggested just buying a Ibanez ADMINI ano delay,and a MXR carbon copy to use as my slapback 50s sound and or buy 2 ibanez ADMINIs and have them on different settings ready to go for the price of the Keeley.
He is a fan of Keeley pedals as am I, he owns the Katana and the Reverb pedal (can't remember which one he has now)

So would you guys stick with the Memphis sun + Strymon Flint or what I said above?


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+1 on the MXR Carbon Copy, they are a great delay pedal that really makes a reverb come alive. If you buy a multi for $350 or even $500 like the Line6 M9 or M13, you can spend more than that on individual pedals if you buy 4 or more. So, make sure you like the effect as it's really a matter of your taste that counts. You can trade the Keeley for 2 cheaper pedals if they can supply what you are looking for. Best to take a trip down to a local GC or whatever local guitar store you have in your neck of the woods and try a few... cool

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Guitar > Reverb > Tremolo is THE classic tremolo sound, and the order that those two effects are found in most, perhaps ALL, classic reverb/tremolo amps. Having to choose one or the other is, well, very limiting, NOT classic, and pretty lame.

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I was chatting to a friend today about the Keeley Memphis Sun and was telling him I'm selling a few things to buy a Strymon Flint for its reverb and Tremolos for a 50s band and he said I should send the Keeley back and get a Strymon el Capistan as its more versatile and would go better with the Flint.

I do still have time to get a refund and do what he suggested , I like the Keeley a lot but obviously it does 1 thing, would an el Capistan be a move in the wrong direction pairing it with a Flint?


While I love having both a Strymon Flint and a Strymon El Capistan, I ALSO want a Keeley Memphis Sun.

The Flint and El Capistan DO pair WONDERFULLY together- but I'm SURE that the Memphis Sun must also pair wonderfully with the Flint, and the Memphis Sun absolutely NAILS those Sun Studio sounds; it probably does that better than the El Capistan could, if those classic, retro Memphis/Sun Studios sounds are what you want- and given your mission-statement, I think you do.

Keep the Memphis Sun and the Flint, and wait a long while to think about whether or not you want and need longer echo times. If so, the El Capistan is one of the best and most versatile tape-flavored digital-echoes out there.

The analog and analog-flavored echo pedals out there, such as the MXR Carbon Copy, are based on "bucket-brigade" Solid-State delay circuits. Nothing wrong with that- some of my favorite echo sounds and pedals are that type- just know that these are a whole different type from tape-echoes and tape-flavored digital echoes. The latter were more prevalent in the '60s (and maybe also even in the '50s?); as far as I know, "bucket-brigade" Solid-State echo didn't come around till the '70s... ?

There were also "oil can" and other weird echo units around in the '60s and '70s, which had very short delay-times and dark, weird tones. If you REALLY get into all this retro echo effects stuff, you might wind up looking into pedals that recreate those kinds of sounds, too.

For now, I think that you should keep that Memphis Sun, and worry about longer and/or weirder echoes later, further on down the road.


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Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite

There were also "oil can" and other weird echo units around in the '60s and '70s, which had very short delay-times and dark, weird tones. If you REALLY get into all this retro echo effects stuff, you might wind up looking into pedals that recreate those kinds of sounds, too.


Well...there IS the Catalinbread Adineko
http://www.catalinbread.com/product/adineko/


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Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite

There were also "oil can" and other weird echo units around in the '60s and '70s, which had very short delay-times and dark, weird tones. If you REALLY get into all this retro echo effects stuff, you might wind up looking into pedals that recreate those kinds of sounds, too.


Well...there IS the Catalinbread Adineko
http://www.catalinbread.com/product/adineko/


Yhup! cool Looks to be a great pedal; kinda want one, myself.

And Catalinbread's Echorec endeavors to recreate the sound of the Binson Echorec, famously heard on a lot of classic Pink Floyd albums, which used a rotating metal disc or drum against record and multiple playback heads.

I'm thinkin' that the Keeley Memphis Sun is tailor-made for much of Rikismyname's mission-statement, though.


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That, or their Belle Epoch. Good enough that Eric Johnson has 3 on his pedalboard.




....so OF COURSE it's on my G.A.S. list now. grin


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Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
That, or their Belle Epoch. Good enough that Eric Johnson has 3 on his pedalboard.

....so OF COURSE it's on my G.A.S. list now. grin


The Catalinbread Bell Epoch- another digital-echo pedal going for tape-echo sounds- looks to be a really cool pedal, too.

I think I'd like one, myself, but I wouldn't give up my Strymon El Capistan for one.


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Working my way up to an El Cap. wink


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Hijacking Rikismyname's thread... grin thu

Originally Posted By: Dannyalcatraz
Working my way up to an El Cap. wink


I wouldn't mind having a Belle Epoch, myself, but the drum-styled Echorec and oil-can-esque Adineko both call to me more. (Gawd, I'm such an echo-whore in the making! crazy grin )

I think the Belle Epoch is best suited to being placed before the input of an amp- particularly a good tube-amp- and the El Capistan is best suited in an amp's effects-loop, or even 'post-amp' via a mic, speaker-emulator, or the like, and from there to a power-amp or PA or whatever. (Similar to EVH's placement of an EP-3 Echoplex tape-echo in his recording set-up for those classic first few VH albums.)


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I'll keep that in mind for when I get mine! laugh


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Right I have my funds sorted now I need to have a think tonight about what to do.

Current board Guitar > boss tu-3 > Amp
Mooer yellow comp >Keeley Memphis sun > effects loop.

So I've had the keeley for a few days and finally had some proper time to sit down earlier today.

What I need to decide is I need reverb pedal, not sure which one but had my eye on
Boss rv-5
Strymon Flint
EHX holy grail Neo

Also I need a digital/ana delay
Boss dd-3
Mxr Carbon copy bright?

I'm also wondering if you guys can give me a push in one direction or another on this......
I like the Memphis sun on Sun mode and reverb mode mostly but the reverb on its own isn't enough I don't think for live gigs, so I'm thinking should I get a refund for the keeley and get either a Strymon el Capistan or a boss re20 or a boss Dm-2 delay.

Same sound is needed.
50s -60s clean echo/delays mostly playing rhythm with a bit of picking and a couple of solos.

Not sure if
Yellow comp > boss re-20 > Carbon copy > Strymon Flint or
Yellow comp > Memphis sun > boss dd-3 > holy grail Neo
Yellow comp > Carbon copy bright > boss Tr-2 > boss ev-5
Or any other combination would be best for live gigs.


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I like the Memphis sun on Sun mode and reverb mode mostly but the reverb on its own isn't enough I don't think for live gigs, so I'm thinking should I get a refund for the keeley and get either a Strymon el Capistan or a boss re20 or a boss Dm-2 delay.

Same sound is needed.
50s -60s clean echo/delays mostly playing rhythm with a bit of picking and a couple of solos.


First off- as applies respective of which Mode you have the Memphis Sun set to, try turning up the Mix, Regeneration, and Reverb controls to taste if you're not getting enough reverberation. Try the Memphis Sun in your amp's effects-loop and make sure that any controls for your amp's effects-loop are set correctly for your use.

You may also want to try that compressor pedal earlier in your effects-chain, and not in the amp's effects-loop. It MAY even be making your reverb-sounds more ho-hum, feeding them a more compressed and limited dynamic-signal where your original un-compressed attack and envelope might give you a more dynamically responsive reverb...


Being as you want it for '50s and '60s styles, Rockabilly, etc., I can't imagine that the Memphis Sun could let you down. If you just want longer delay times, I can understand that other pedals would do that for you, but longer delay times are not very much a part of the '50s and '60s canon, be it Rock 'n' Roll, Rockabilly, Country, etc. fro that era... I cannot imagine your thinking of getting rid of the Memphis Sun.

Doesn't your amp have reverb?


I love my El Capistan, but it's very specific spring-reverb emulation is NOT its strength; the included Spring-Reverb sim is essentially a copy of that found in the old Roland RE-200 Space Echo (IIRC), there to put just he finishing-touch on some tape-echo sounds, and it is not necessarily a reverb that one would want to use all the time for general reverb duties, IMHO; it's sort of tanky-twanky weird sounding to my ear and to many others'. Great for some things, particularly when mixed in carefully, but not a nice all-around reverb to have on most of the time. I use it most for some weirder Dub/Reggae sounds, and otherwise mixed-in very low for juuust a little more 'somethin' ' on the tape-echo flavored repeats.

The El Capistan's strengths and whole reason for being are its tape-flavored echo sounds; if you want a wide variety of great tape-echo sounds, get it for that- but NOT for its reverb.


If you can make use of both Tremolo and Reverb, the Strymon Flint is AWESOME and can be considered two or more pedals in one, and its price should be considered as such- virtually a bargain when compared to buying two or more such pedals.







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I put myself through college playing in a 50s/60s Rock n Roll review show. My pedalboard pretty much nailed the authentic sound.

Guitar (335 or Strat) ------ Tuner ------ 65 Fender Twin Reverb. grin

I did add a ProCo Rat later when Satisfaction was added to the show. I played a 175 at first but I had problems with feedback so I traded it for the 335. If I known then what I know now I would have kept the 175 and got a graphic EQ pedal.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1hYbd3ebPQ <--- this is a good lesson on how to get a rockabilly sound...it's more in your playing than in the pedals...

+1 it's hard to beat a Twin Reverb amp but you have to be young and have a good back LOL! cool


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Yeah I have reverb on my amp but turned up to where I like it there's not enough decay.

Would you use just the reverb on the Memphis for playing live then?
I'm thinking leaving it off and getting another pedal to handle Spring/plate reverbs.

I set the mix on the Memphis to about 9:30, I'll try it at 11:00 and turn down the time or something and see.

Off to a music shop today to try boss frv-1, Strymon Flint,holy grail,Carbon copy bright,etc and I'll try a fender twin amp as maybe that's the sound I'm after wink.

Caevan thanks for your help


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When you try out the Twin Reverb, try putting a Carbon Copy in front of it and kick it in and out while running the reverb on about 4...there is nothing like a Fender tube spring reverb amp IMHO. cool


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Oozing (edit: trying) to put together a pedalboard for 50s Rock n roll and some 60s tunes.

I. Thinking I need Delay,echo,compression,reverb,tremolo, power,and a tuner.

My shortlist so far:

Boss Space Echo Re-20
TC Electronic Alter Ego x4 echo and delay
T-Rex Fuel tank jr
Tc polytune 2
MXR Dyna comp or super Comp
Boss TR-2
Gator g tour small case pedalboard

So for that kind of sound what pedal should I look at?

I already have reverb sorted.

I like that the Alter Ego has 3 presets and can tinker with tone print , nod loads the flashback tone prints to.





I haven't noticed this thread earlier, but personally....

I'd check into what did THEY use back then? wink
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Originally Posted By: whitefang
I haven't noticed this thread earlier, but personally....

I'd check into what did THEY use back then? wink


They used echo-chambers- separate rooms or emptied water-towers and the like with speakers and microphones in them; dual reel-to-reel tape machines; outboard tube/spring-reverb units the size of amp-heads; tube-amplifiers with on-board tube tremolo and "vibrato" circuits and tube/spring-reverb; stuff like that. That's what THEY used back then.

Try getting all that in your car, let alone on stage and on your pedalboard... wink







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Rik- I bet that you will like the Flint, both for its Reverb, and for its Tremolo- and ESPECIALLY for its Reverb AND its Tremolo TOGETHER, in that order. Its three reverbs should please you, and it can really pour it on- especially with the Mix and Decay turned up. Want splash and drip? '60s Spring with high Color and Mix settings, and Decay set to taste.

But DON'T ditch that Memphis Sun without really giving it a thorough chance. It should go VERY well with the Flint, indeed- that'd be a majorly great pairing. If you still need longer delay-time echo repeats, get something else like a Carbon Copy or an El Capistan further on down the road. For now, turn up the Mix and Regeneration.


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Homebrew Electronics Compressor Retro (HBE CPR) for $90.00 US or best offer on Reverb dot com

If you don't buy this one, I just might as soon as I can, just for the addition of that Attack control.


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Congrats Caevan! We do get the juices flowing in our discussions and the 1st thing you know, someone buys some equipment out here LOL! But seriously, keep us posted on how you like the pedal! thu


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Cool hope you like pedal caevan.

Right decided what I'm doing after reading all the advice here and having a chat with a guy yesterday at the music shop.

I'm sending the Memphis sun back and getting a slightly used el capistan for the same price, I sold some stuff and now have the funds for a Flint .

That way I shouldn't be wanting longer delays and stuff. Does anyone know of another switch that will work for the favourites on the strymons? £59 here per switch!!! , I found somewhere called Vein tap switch which is just a plain metal box for £23 each.
But what kind of switch do I need or will only the strymons work or a specially designed switch?


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Quick question- I thought that this had come up before here on this thread, but apparently not- just what IS the amp that you're using, Rik'?

I am sure that you will LOVE the El Capistan and Flint; they're both GREAT pedals and work very well together. Make sure that their internal jumper/terminal switches are set to "Mono" for he Input jack, unless you are going to be feeding them a stereo signal via a TRS Y cable.

(I'll be sending you a Private Message re: Strymon Tap/Favorite switches, via this Forum.)


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Just picked up the el capistan.
Looking forward to later when I'm home.

My amp is a Hughes and kettner switchblade 100 valve amp.

It's bloody heavy and loud.
After I've got all this stuff sorted next will be selling the H&K and getting something lighter and more vintage.
Thinking fender deville Mike Landau model or a blues deluxe or twin , not sure yet


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I just can't believe it would cost me £120 for 2 switches to call up presets! Surely a common readily available switch from boss (I have 1 already) should work?


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I just can't believe it would cost me £120 for 2 switches to call up presets! Surely a common readily available switch from boss (I have 1 already) should work?


Depends on how the pedal is wired. If it's a TRS jack, the Boss FS-5U, or FS-5L probably won't work. If it's a standard TS jack, like a regular guitar cable, you may be able to use it.

Looking at their website, it does appear that you can use a standard Momentary Switch for Tap Tempo. Not sure about scrolling through presets, however. Best of luck!


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I just can't believe it would cost me £120 for 2 switches to call up presets! Surely a common readily available switch from boss (I have 1 already) should work?


Hehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehh... ! grin wink Wait'll you read my Private Message, you'll understand why I'm chuckling after reading your saying "I just can't believe it would cost me £120 for 2 switches to call up presets!"... thu

And- as long as it's Favorite Presets that you want to call up with a stomp, be sure that it's the "Strymon Favorite Switch" from Vein-Tap dot-com that you order, and not one of Vein-Tap dot-com's Tap-Tempo offerings. And be sure that they either include a TRS "stereo" Y-cord, or that you have one to connect it to your Strymon Flint or El Capistan.

One nice thing about the actual Strymon Tap-Favorite Switch is that it can be used as either a Tap-Tempo OR a Favorite-Setting foot-switch, depending on the setting of an internal jumper. This could also be easily and cost-effectively made as a D.I.Y. project. I don't see any mention of this feature being included on the Vein-Tap dot-com footswitches; they seem to offer only separate "Favorite" and "Tap-Tempo" footswitches- ask them about that before you buy.

Note that these Strymon pedals can operate with an external Tap-Favorite switch for EITHER Favorite-setting recall OR Tap-Tempo functions- one or the other- but not both simultaneously. The El Capistan has its own built-in Tap-Tempo footswitch, the left one, which doubles as a momentary Infinite Repeat switch as long as it's held down.

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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I just can't believe it would cost me £120 for 2 switches to call up presets! Surely a common readily available switch from boss (I have 1 already) should work?


Depends on how the pedal is wired. If it's a TRS jack, the Boss FS-5U, or FS-5L probably won't work. If it's a standard TS jack, like a regular guitar cable, you may be able to use it.

Looking at their website, it does appear that you can use a standard Momentary Switch for Tap Tempo. Not sure about scrolling through presets, however. Best of luck!


The Strymon Flint and El Capistan use a TRS "stereo" jack and plug for their respective EXP (Expression) jacks and external Tap-Favorite footswitches.


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And another thing-

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
My amp is a Hughes and kettner switchblade 100 valve amp.


Be sure to have your H&K Switchblade 100 amp's effects-loop set to Serial operational mode. If you MUST use its effects-loop in Parallel mode, have the Mix set quite high to hear more of the reverb, delay, or whatever other effect it is that you're using within the 'loop.


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Thanks, Caevan, for the clarification. It may still be possible to use the Boss Dual FS-6, with a TRS cable, but the smaller FS-5x pedals are out.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1hYbd3ebPQ <--- this is a good lesson on how to get a rockabilly sound...it's more in your playing than in the pedals...

+1 it's hard to beat a Twin Reverb amp but you have to be young and have a good back LOL! cool


I didn't think the Twin was heavy. But the amp was in storage since getting my Boogie in 92.

I had it rebuilt this year and am using it for pedal steel because I want more of a West Coast sound. The damn Twin must have been binge eating because it got really heavy over the last 20 years. grin

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Some good steelers I respect really like the EHX Holy Grail (the big one not the Neo). I'm thinking of getting one of those for my big verb sound as opposed to the RV-5.

Fuzz. (take this for what it is worth my use of fuzz is to get what steelers call the string effect) My favorite fuzz is an old circuit called the Jordan BossTone. Several companies have tried to emulate it. I won't call them failures because some of the pedals are actually nice but they are different. The one that comes closest is Mahoney Buzz Tone. This model is designed to plug into the side of a steel guitar but he does make pedal versions.

http://mahoneyguitargear.com/product8.htm


Pedal Version
http://mahoneyguitargear.com/product5.htm


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Got home plugged the el capistan in and .... YES smile
It's axactly what I was after, I'll have more time tomorrow evening as the kids went to bed early but I love it.
Tried a few settings I found online for slapback, it sounds great smile.


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I think I will need a favourite switch because I also play acoustic and would like to feed that through this via a aby splitter pedal but then change the reverb settings quickly.

Yeah I have my amp set up in series (both lights on on my amp), the el pac sounds great through it, I'll have to wait until a few band rehearsal to figure out what songs I need the el cap but I'm thinking even if it's a song where I'm just playing chords all the way through I can just leave it on and turn the mix down just to make the sound fuller.

Thanks for the help Caevan smile

I mostly kept both switches in the up position and the time at about 1:30 , I messed around changing the switches and got some pretty cool sounds I've never played before, really got the creative juices going.
I am a Strymon convert smile , just have to wait for my Memphis sun refund to get the Flint.

The Memphis sun was great for what it did but I think as this is my first venture into this style of music it's good to have the el capistan with its abilities/versatility where the Memphis sun only did 1 1/2 repeats.

Caevan.. I'll have to unscrew to look inside to see what you mean by set to mono tomorrow also


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Sounds like Caev helped you find a real winner!


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I think I will need a favourite switch because I also play acoustic and would like to feed that through this via a aby splitter pedal but then change the reverb settings quickly.


That 'Strymon Favorite Switch' from Vein-Tap dot-com that you posted a link to above should work just fine for that. Again, be sure that either they supply a TRS "stereo" cable to connect it to the El Capistan, or that you get one for that if they don't. It won't work with a regular mono cable. And be sure to read that Private Message that I sent you about related matters.

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
I mostly kept both switches in the up position and the time at about 1:30 , I messed around changing the switches and got some pretty cool sounds I've never played before, really got the creative juices going.
I am a Strymon convert smile , just have to wait for my Memphis sun refund to get the Flint.


I'm glad that you like it! You're going to love the Flint, as well. Using them together with echo-repeats that rhythmically sub-divide the tremolo and splash the reverb in pulses is ridiculously gratifying. cool

Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Caevan.. I'll have to unscrew to look inside to see what you mean by set to mono tomorrow also


As far as I know, you'll want Mono Input operation (right?); chances are that it's already set-up for that, it's the factory default setting...

(By the way, earlier Strymon El Capistan pedals had a mono-only input and did not have the jumper or option for stereo input/throughput; it's possible that you may have an older model, having bought a used one... )

Here's the official Strymon document on that:

How do I enable the TRS stereo input on El Capistan?



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Originally Posted By: CEB

I didn't think the Twin was heavy. But the amp was in storage since getting my Boogie in 92.

I had it rebuilt this year and am using it for pedal steel because I want more of a West Coast sound. The damn Twin must have been binge eating because it got really heavy over the last 20 years. grin


Yeah, I was bitching and moaning about my Hot Rod 410 DeVille being so heavy (weighs in at 55lbs). Then I picked up my Son-n-laws Twin Reverb off the floor and wow did it bring back memories of my gigging days! No more complaining about the HRD anymore LOL! thu


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Oh, and here, for your convenience:

El Capistan User Manual

Flint User Manual

Note that the knobs have secondary function parameters; to access and set the "hidden" secondary functions, refer to the manual, then carefully hold down the dual footswitches and adjust the control-settings.

Also note the suggested example control-settings; some nice starting-points for crafting your very own sounds from these...


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Thanks for the links caevan


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Originally Posted By: Rikismyname
Thanks for the links caevan


You're welcome! Enjoy those pedals in good health and bad-assedness! rawk Lemmy know if you ever have ANY questions about 'em. thu


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By the way- that used HBE CPR compressor that I posted a link to above? I wound up buying it, myself. I just wanted to let people know that when I recommend something, I really, REALLY mean what I say...


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Caevan, Why have you waited 3 years to tell us what we already know? When you recommend gear, I always know you are giving great advice! I'll bet that compressor has been good to you! thu


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Originally Posted By: Larryz
Caevan, Why have you waited 3 years to tell us what we already know? When you recommend gear, I always know you are giving great advice! I'll bet that compressor has been good to you! thu


Holy carp! I absentmindedly posted that while half-asleep, after having brought it up as a search-result concerning something else, and it had lingered on my browser for a while; it hadn't quite registered with me that this thread was that old. I didn't exactly mean to summon-up such a stale old necrobump... ! blush


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