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#2842319 - 03/16/17 06:30 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: timwat]
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Great info. I had just checked on the Radial website yesterday to see if it was listed yet. Was actually wondering where the heck it is.
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#2842321 - 03/16/17 06:39 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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I just re-checked the Facebook message and they said "mid March" for shipping. Which is, like...today. So I'm not holding my breath, but am optimistic this will start shipping sooner rather than later.

On a side note, it appears that Facebook is one of the fastest ways to get a real person to reply from Radial. So there's that...
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#2842322 - 03/16/17 06:40 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: timwat]
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And I see db has made me a HoF member with a suitable tagline.

I have truly arrived.

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thanks, db!!!
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#2842323 - 03/16/17 06:49 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: timwat]
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Sticking with the Facebook lingo, that's an acknowledgment we can all like!
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#2842367 - 03/17/17 03:50 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Hi,

The concept of Key-Largo inspired me to build this

https://stonetaper.wordpress.com/the-compact-keyboard-mixer/

No USB, but it has proven to be handy to have the keys just simply summed with a box in the pedalboard. It doesn't even have channel faders as most modern keyboards have reasonably equal output level anyway. Works for me.


Edited by jyrkik (03/17/17 03:51 AM)
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#2842386 - 03/17/17 05:48 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: jyrkik]
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Cool mixer project Mr Taper!

If it's not a personal question - logarithmic or linear?

Cheers, Mike.
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#2842472 - 03/17/17 11:23 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: timwat]
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Originally Posted By: timwat
And I see db has made me a HoF member with a suitable tagline.

I have truly arrived.

smile

thanks, db!!!
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#2842556 - 03/18/17 12:54 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: stoken6]
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Originally Posted By: stoken6
Cool mixer project Mr Taper!

If it's not a personal question - logarithmic or linear?

Cheers, Mike.


Hah,

If I had a choice I'd definitely prefer Alog. But (half)seriously, here's the story
http://www.forensic-architecture.org/lexicon/stone-tape-theory/

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#2842558 - 03/18/17 02:42 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: timwat]
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It has the air of a product for keyboards designed by guitarists. Lots of knobs but designed to sit on the floor? I don't want to have to reach under my rig to tweak the volume of a keyboard midway through a set, let alone a song. Again, the effects loop thing makes perfect sense for guitarists but for keyboard players, in reality most of us use on-board effects only. Yes, there are exceptions like maybe a Moog but many will already have DSP-equipped mixers which can handle that where needed. I like Radial products a lot but this one feels a little schizophrenic.
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#2842568 - 03/18/17 04:46 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Aidan]
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Here's the Radial Space Heater.
Largo is a great idea, but their Tube Based Mixer sounds fantastic.
Largo with Tubes would be a Home Run.

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#2842572 - 03/18/17 05:03 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: hardware]
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Anyone got their hands on a key largo yet?
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#2842579 - 03/18/17 06:23 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Aidan]
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Originally Posted By: Aidan
It has the air of a product for keyboards designed by guitarists. Lots of knobs but designed to sit on the floor? I don't want to have to reach under my rig to tweak the volume of a keyboard midway through a set, let alone a song. Again, the effects loop thing makes perfect sense for guitarists but for keyboard players, in reality most of us use on-board effects only. Yes, there are exceptions like maybe a Moog but many will already have DSP-equipped mixers which can handle that where needed. I like Radial products a lot but this one feels a little schizophrenic.


That is exactly what I think when I see this pedal. Who uses a single pedal to control the volume of their entire rig? Which of us would step on a button instead of a pedal for sustain? These two features imply that you're playing a single instrument through the box, like a guitarist.

I can see the effects loop being valuable, but only because you can adjust the effects level per channel.

The form factor, ruggedness and (I'm sure) electronics are great, but some of the design features have me bewildered. It's also about $100 more than I'd care to spend. Ditch the MIDI, sustain button and volume pedal loop, knock the price down and it would have more appeal to me.
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#2842678 - 03/18/17 03:31 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Rusty Mike]
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Originally Posted By: Rusty Mike

The form factor, ruggedness and (I'm sure) electronics are great, but some of the design features have me bewildered. It's also about $100 more than I'd care to spend. Ditch the MIDI, sustain button and volume pedal loop, knock the price down and it would have more appeal to me.


Ditch the MIDI, sustain pedal button, and effect loop. Add internal power supply and it would be perfect.

bhphotovideo.com says "Expected availability: Apr 5, 2017".


Edited by U.Honey (03/18/17 03:32 PM)

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#2842755 - 03/18/17 07:53 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: jyrkik]
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Originally Posted By: jyrkik


The concept of Key-Largo inspired me to build this

https://stonetaper.wordpress.com/the-compact-keyboard-mixer/



Awesome !

A.C.

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#2842761 - 03/18/17 08:07 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Al Coda]
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I like the thought of using this without the sustain or volume pedal functions. Just a DI with ground lifts with room for three stereo sets of keys PLUS your PC/Mac. Wondering if it has the Jensen transformers like the other Radial DIs do.

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#2842770 - 03/18/17 08:25 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: midinut]
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I'm with midinut on this. I wouldn't use the pedal functions, midi, or the effects loop. It still eliminates an external DI from the mixer and an external audio interface from computer.
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#2842842 - 03/19/17 09:21 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: davedoerfler]
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Anyone know if the USB works with an iPad? I can't seem to find any info on that.

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#2847049 - 04/05/17 04:54 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: roygBiv]
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#2847061 - 04/05/17 05:32 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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And now also on Radial´s webb:
http://www.radialeng.com/keylargo.php

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#2854483 - 05/09/17 04:02 PM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: roygBiv]
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Originally Posted By: roygbiv
Anyone know if the USB works with an iPad? I can't seem to find any info on that.
I'm going to say no. Looking through the PDF Manual, it only mentions things like "computer or laptop," or "Mac or PC." It never says iPad, iPhone, or iOS device. That's really too bad. They'd have a killer device on their hands if it did (I think it's still pretty good and am considering adding one to my rig).

I wonder if it's something like they would have had to deal with the proprietary interface on iOS and didn't want to deal with that issue and cost. Still, I wonder if it could drive an iOS device over USB and then you could connect the audio outs to one of the analog channels. Not as ideal, but workable.

I was wondering about mono as I wrote this.

"For mono keyboards, simply connect to the left input only – the Key-Largo will automatically route the signal to both the left and right outputs." That's pretty cool. thu
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#2854531 - 05/10/17 05:40 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Bone Muskeleton]
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#2854535 - 05/10/17 06:41 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Al Quinn]
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I like the way it is placed in this photo. Were I to get one, I would use it like this, not on the floor.

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#2854538 - 05/10/17 06:52 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: davedoerfler]
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Mine is due to be recieved tomorrow.
will report after setup and test
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#2854544 - 05/10/17 07:26 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: jimkost2002]
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Hey all...
Just to make sure I am reading the documentation properly:
Not only is this a 3 channel stereo mixer, it can also be used as an audio/i/o?

Cool. This would simplify my rig even more. I would set it as David above says he would.

Can't wait to hear reports. If it is a robust as my old Pro D2, it will be good.
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#2854547 - 05/10/17 07:48 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Mine is due tomorrow also!
I want to control my whole rig with one vol. pedal. Can't take 3 vol. pedals, driving me crazy. I can deal with 2 (Piano/Organ) but synth sounds vary so much unless I spend time 'leveling' all my patches and I don't have time to do that!
I'll trim with my hands on the boards themselves or the Key Largo. Seems using my hands is much less musically distracting than shuffling my feet around!

I plan to put it on the top right of the Casio Px-5S. It would also allow for easier setup also in regard to cabling all the pedals 2 of which were passive signal.

Hoping it's all gonna workout. If it doesn't it maybe up on the Forum classifieds. coffee


Edited by Legatoboy (05/10/17 08:54 AM)
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#2854551 - 05/10/17 08:03 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Hey all...
Just to make sure I am reading the documentation properly:
Not only is this a 3 channel stereo mixer, it can also be used as an audio/i/o?
Three channels of analog audio plus one for USB audio coming from Mac or PC. They mention MainStage a few times in those trade show videos so they were clearly thinking of that app.
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#2854559 - 05/10/17 08:42 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Bone Muskeleton]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Hey all...
Just to make sure I am reading the documentation properly:
Not only is this a 3 channel stereo mixer, it can also be used as an audio/i/o?
Three channels of analog audio plus one for USB audio coming from Mac or PC. They mention MainStage a few times in those trade show videos so they were clearly thinking of that app.


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#2854595 - 05/10/17 11:38 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Finally have one of these in my hands; man, it's a hefty little bugger! Built like a tank, in typical Radial fashion... maybe even more so! twothumbs

I think Radial definitely has another winner on their hands with this one.
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#2854599 - 05/10/17 11:39 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Sven Golly]
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#2854600 - 05/10/17 11:44 AM Re: Radial Key-Largo Mixer, DI, USB [Re: Legatoboy]
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Sorry, that came across a little fanboy-ish, huh? wink
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