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#2817648 - 11/26/16 09:14 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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My old Minimoog had those clear wheels as well. We're they only available for a few years?


First few hundred or so had clear wheels. All the RA Moog and Musonics had them, as did early Moog Music ones.

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You can also tell from the photos that the keys are not perfectly level as a new keyboard would be. Old minis are notorious for having key leveling issues.


That's a common issue with any vintage synth using the Pratt-Read Keysets. The bushings under the keys dry out and disintegrate, creating the "snaggletooth" look. If your old synth makes "clack" noises while playing it, that's the sound of bad bushings.

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#2817694 - 11/27/16 07:12 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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My old Minimoog had those clear wheels as well. We're they only available for a few years? I never liked those white wheels with the teeth.


I owned 3 Minimoog D and still own one of those.
2 had non-teeth white wheels, the 3rd had white wheels w/ teeth.
But as someone doing lots of pitchbend and trying to hit different target notes within a scale as perfect as possible, I hated ΄em when hands got sweaty.

In fact I replaced all with the white ones w/ teeth.

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... the keys are not perfectly level as a new keyboard would be. Old minis are notorious for having key leveling issues.


Well, that΄s the bushings.
Replacing those fixes the issue but is a cumbersome job as is cleaning and alining keycontact busbars w/o breaking keycontact springs.

But now, when they managed to use a velocity sensitive Fatar TP-9S in the Minimoog D re-issues, I wonder if it΄s possible doing such mod to any old Minimoog D too,- once someone finds out how the keys and scanboards connect to the normally CV receiving Minimoog electronics.
I guess there might be some MIDI/CV converter inside since the toy now has MIDI.

I hope someone opens the thing and reports near future.

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#2817817 - 11/28/16 06:15 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Al Coda]
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Saw them in San Jose last night. Wonderful performance. Jon Anderson told the audience he was suffering from a cold, and then proceeded to exceed expectations as I thought he sounded amazing. They made some nice changes to some of the songs (Wakeman did an awesome minimoog solo at the end of Rhythm of Love for example). Awaken was really excellent. The Fish was a highlight of the show also (bass player did a great job and did some nice improvisation). Nice to hear real minimoogs and that cut though the mix. The band clearly was having fun and the enthusiasm was contagious.
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#2818576 - 12/01/16 05:22 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Bob L]
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Rick describes his ARW rig


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#2818591 - 12/01/16 06:46 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Shutoku]
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#2818600 - 12/01/16 07:35 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Shutoku]
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Rick describes his ARW rig


Rick uses EV's like mine to monitor his sound. That should settle the whole "What is the best powered speaker" debate!
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#2818645 - 12/02/16 05:24 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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Interesting that he's got a Sledge Black Edition waiting in the wings.

And that he "loves everything to bits." Cheers, GORS!

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#2818649 - 12/02/16 05:35 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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Originally Posted By: HammondDave

You can also tell from the photos that the keys are not perfectly level as a new keyboard would be. Old minis are notorious for having key leveling issues.


And having rebuilt a Model D action, I can attest to the brain damage it is to level it. A dark art, for sure. For me, close is good enough.

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#2818652 - 12/02/16 05:54 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dje31]
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Interesting that he's got a Sledge Black Edition waiting in the wings.

The black Sledge is used by Lee Pomeroy as the sound source for his MIDI bass pedals. Lee told me he loves his Taurus I, but didn't want to take it on the road.

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#2818655 - 12/02/16 06:12 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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The black Sledge is used by Lee Pomeroy as the sound source for his MIDI bass pedals. Lee told me he loves his Taurus I, but didn't want to take it on the road.
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Well, that makes sense it's setup by Lee's station. But RW made it sound like he'd have one integrated into his fortress of keys. Or maybe he'd just MIDI up to Lee's for when the pedals weren't in use.

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#2818880 - 12/03/16 07:09 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dje31]
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Saw the show in Anaheim last night. It was fantastic! The difference between these guys' performance and the remnants of the previous Yes tour is so dramatic that you can't even compare them. The sound was esquisite, the musicianship off the charts, and the lighting, absolutely stunning. Don't miss this show!

And one more thing. Not to sound like a broken record... but how the hell does a 72 year old man sound this good when he is sick? You can hear between songs how congested he was when he spoke to the audience, and then he sound like this for two hours? I just don't get it.

Oh yeah, and Wakeman was sublime. Best I ever heard him.



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#2818973 - 12/03/16 12:42 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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Here is a video that I shot last night of "And You And I"... With that glorious Mellotron and Moog part at 2:47 to 5:18.

No doubt, my all time favorite Yes music.

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#2818982 - 12/03/16 01:24 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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...and here is my favorite Moog solo of the night... Starts at 4:50.

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#2819037 - 12/03/16 07:18 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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#2819039 - 12/03/16 08:02 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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[quote=HammondDave]...and here is my favorite Moog solo of the night... Starts at 4:50. /quote]

stereo from 5:00 at least ...

Well,- I don΄t hear ANY keys before 4:50,- some occasional hi frequ spikes before ...
The typical keyboardists situation.
Minimoog solo is cool, but short.
Sound collapses to mono here in between ..

I΄m pretty sure ANY guitar solo would have been mixed louder ...

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#2819057 - 12/03/16 10:50 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Al Coda]
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[quote=HammondDave]...and here is my favorite Moog solo of the night... Starts at 4:50. /quote]

stereo from 5:00 at least ...

Well,- I don΄t hear ANY keys before 4:50,- some occasional hi frequ spikes before ...
The typical keyboardists situation.
Minimoog solo is cool, but short.
Sound collapses to mono here in between ..

I΄m pretty sure ANY guitar solo would have been mixed louder ...

A.C.


The mix sounds pretty good to me.
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#2819103 - 12/04/16 07:33 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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That video was awesome!! Rick is always so funny and endearing.
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#2819339 - 12/05/16 11:20 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: richforman]
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I also saw the Friday night show in Anaheim. (I was shocked that Goldstar had tickets two days before the show and I got middle of the orchestra center. No complaints.)

As others noted, great show and my first time seeing Rick/Jon live.
I hope I have their energy when I'm in my 70's.

Rick played great as usual but he really looked like he was sick from a cold. (maybe from Jon). Many times he was playing with his left hand and covering his mouth with his right while coughing. Didn't hurt his performance though.

Some may not like the "keytar parade", I get that, but in this case, depending on where you're sitting, I got to stand next to one of my keyboard heroes.

I wish his chops would rub off.

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#2819675 - 12/07/16 06:30 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: unclebyron]
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I had to leave early (missed the last two songs) and thankfully missed his keytar moment.

Call it irrational, but there is something about trying to be out front with a keyboard strapped around your neck that just seems ridiculous to me.

That being said, Wakeman is truly one of the great musicians of our time. From his exquisite mellotron work on Space Oddity to his spectacular work with Yes and his solo career, this man was and is a huge influence on keyboard players of multiple generations.

Yes better make the Hall of Fame soon!


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#2819781 - 12/07/16 01:31 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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Call it irrational, but there is something about trying to be out front with a keyboard strapped around your neck that just seems ridiculous to me.

Rick seems to be a rather humorous guy, so the white keytar, in conjunction with his cape and Chicago Cubs shirt (at least when I saw him), seemed to "work" for him.
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#2819803 - 12/07/16 04:14 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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Yes better make the Hall of Fame soon!


Vote for them!

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#2819805 - 12/07/16 04:54 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Synthaholic]
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Very tasteful Moog solo. What else is there to say!
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#2821576 - 12/15/16 05:24 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: bennyray]
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Keyboard still hasn't posted the interview I did with Rick...but here's a small slice that isn't in the interview.



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#2821580 - 12/15/16 05:46 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Nice bit! Plus, I learned that RW can carry a tune. He's never sung any backups in Yes AFAIK.
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#2821582 - 12/15/16 05:56 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: AnotherScott]
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FWIW, the person he's accusing of being too young to remember the Turtles isn't me - it's his tech, Erik.

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#2821639 - 12/16/16 04:55 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2821658 - 12/16/16 06:32 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Keyboard still hasn't posted the interview I did with Rick...but here's a small slice that isn't in the interview.



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Love it love it love it! For my birthday my amazing wife flew me to Arizona to see Flo and Eddie (Howard Kayland and Mark Volman) at some remote casino a couple of years ago. They put on an amazing show and we went backstage to meet them. I brought my copy of Howard's autobiography for him to sign. As he was signing it I told him that a bird shit on the book while I was reading it in Kaui. He said "Really? Show me tha page, I hope he shat on a record executive's name!"

Those guys are the best!


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#2821664 - 12/16/16 07:05 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: HammondDave]
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For those not familiar with their work with Zappa, watch this clip from 4:15 on.

WARNING, VERY EXPLICIT LYRICS, SOME MAY FIND IT EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE!



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#2821676 - 12/16/16 08:05 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: The Real MC]
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[quote=Marzzz]Regarding the Voyager, he was disappointed in its sound vs the original minimoogs; I told him the reissues sounded great, he said something along the lines of "I'll believe it when I see it!"


Both Minimoogs in his current rig are reissues. Telltale black rocker switches under glide and modulation mix knobs.


I don't think so. Maybe the rocker switches are reissues idea

Also look at the back panel.


After closer inspection, they are not the reissues.

The telltale sign is the pointed "diving board" shape of the tips of the Pratt-Read keysets on the originals. Since PR ceased to exist since the 90s, reissues use Fatar keys which aren't the same pointed shape on the tips.

There ARE controls under those knobs that are not on the originals.

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#2821725 - 12/16/16 11:39 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Tonysounds]
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After closer inspection, they are not the reissues.

I could have told you that...he said he hasn't even played one of the reissues. He owns nine Minis. Carries four on the road with him.

Honestly - I get the idea that his tech Erik cares more about the gear itself than Rick does. Rick even said as much that's he's not terribly technical. He mainly seems to care what it sounds like, not how it gets that way.

They make it quite clear in the interview that - with the obvious exception of the MInis - Rick uses most of the keyboards mainly as controllers, and it almost never happens that only one instrument is used in any sound he makes (again, excluding the Minis).

His Sycologic router handles all that.

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