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#2808451 - 10/10/16 03:22 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mark Schmieder]
Al Coda Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Maybe you could offer to take his place.


laugh

Unfortunately I lack the attributes "grumpy" and "star" and performing or better, "covering" old YES songs is also not my prefered task.

When I listened to prog rock these days, I always leaned more towards Porcupine Tree or Steven Wilson΄s solo projects.

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#2808505 - 10/10/16 10:39 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
My recollection is that Chris Squire did the pipe organ intro to "Awaken", so that might explain why they changed it, our of reverence. I mean, who would want to play Chris's parts, on any instrument, and risk being compared?


I don't think so. Much was made at the time of Wakeman recording the pipe organs at a different location, over phone lines, at the same the band was recording the backing tracks. I don't see even Chris Squire telling Rick "go grab a donut. Ive got this."
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#2808572 - 10/10/16 05:58 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Tonysounds]
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Yeah, I probably was confused due to the organ on Squire's "Fish Out of Water", but that might have been the ex-Nice guy (Jackson? Jackman?).


Edited by Mark Schmieder (10/10/16 10:35 PM)
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#2808579 - 10/10/16 07:39 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Chris Squire is not credited with any keys work on that album. It's Patrick Moraz and Barry Rose, the latter credited with the pipe organ.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/fish-out-of-water-mw0000459644/credits
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#2808593 - 10/10/16 10:35 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: AnotherScott]
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Oh, I had forgotten all about Barry Rose. He was a big thing at one time.

I guess not all bass players double on keys. Just most of them. :-) For instance, John Paul Jones, whose band was signed the same day as Yes, by the same guy. :-)

One of the stories about why Wakeman was hired for Yes was that he was more open-minded to using a variety of keyboards and synths; whereas Tony Kaye was apparently fairly "stuck" on Hammond Organs -- yet in spite of this apocryphal story (probably from Steve Howe, but I can't remember for sure), I sure remember a lot of non-organ keyboard parts on the first three Yes albums. :-)


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#2808655 - 10/11/16 09:54 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Schmieder
Yeah, I probably was confused due to the organ on Squire's "Fish Out of Water", but that might have been the ex-Nice guy (Jackson? Jackman?).


You're thinking of Andrew Pryce Jackman, who did the orchestrations and played piano on the album. He also did the orchestration for 'Onward' on Yes's Tormato album. Jackman was a childhood friend of Squire and in his previous band, The Syn. Sadly, he died in 2003.

Lee Jackson was the bassist in The Nice, but not involved here.
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#2808718 - 10/12/16 12:27 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: 16251]
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Went to a performance of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto #3 with the Oregon Symphony and Marc-Andrι Hamelin last night. Picked up a flier and saw this concert coming up. Just bought tickets and I'm stoked! I've seen Bruford/Moraz, but never Yes. I told my gf this may be a now or never show. I think this will be the second concert of a 60's band for me ever (the first being Invisible Touch - era Genesis - does that count?). Considering what a 60's/70's prog nut I am, it's a shame. Here's the venue:
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#2808782 - 10/12/16 09:48 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: delmar]
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So, any setlists out there for subsequent shows to the debut in Mickey Town? Reviews?

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#2809147 - 10/14/16 07:55 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dje31]
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Okay, I'll answer my own question:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlists/arw-53d767d1.html

Looks like a similar core night-by-night so far. Sometimes Lift Me Up is in there. I imagine / hope as it progresses, they'll expand / swap / alter as they go and get more comfortable playing live with each other.

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#2809154 - 10/14/16 08:24 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dje31]
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I'm going tonight in Allentown! Hope Lift Me Up makes the cut, as it's something you don't usually here in Yes shows (I guess not since '91?), same for Changes, hope to hear both along with the usual. Will never get tired of seeing/hearing Heart of the Sunrise and Awaken live.
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#2809159 - 10/14/16 08:38 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: richforman]
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Enjoy! Looking forward to your thoughts about it.

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#2809170 - 10/14/16 09:24 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dje31]
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3 more weeks til Chicago!
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#2809225 - 10/14/16 03:31 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Tonysounds]
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3 more weeks til Chicago!

+1 brother, looking forward to the hang!
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#2809226 - 10/14/16 03:36 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Moonglow]
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Originally Posted By: Moonglow
Originally Posted By: Tonysounds
3 more weeks til Chicago!

+1 brother, looking forward to the hang!


Must've missed the memo... laugh I just picked up a pair of tickets for the New Buffalo show on Nov 4th.
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#2809230 - 10/14/16 04:13 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: allan_evett]
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I'm seeing them with brother steadyb in LA in November at the Orpheum. Anyone else going?

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#2809243 - 10/14/16 07:12 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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I watched a couple of clips from their Orlando show. It looks and sounds pretty good! I think it's neat seeing Rabin cover the older material (though I suppose he might have back when he was in Yes) and Wakeman covering stuff like Owner.

Also, Jon Anderson's enjoyment of it all was pretty infectious. thu

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#2809248 - 10/14/16 08:15 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Joe Muscara]
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Yes, Rabin covered the early stuff, and seemed especially fond of The Yes Album. In fact, that material was where he showed the most artistic license in varying from the originals, and I think I may even prefer his rendering and arrangement of "All Good People", as it somehow seems more of a whole than two separate songs as in the original.
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#2809249 - 10/14/16 08:18 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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I just looked at the tour calendar, and they're playing Wang Center in Boston the night I arrive, but my flight gets in at 330pm and has a tight o'Hare connection so it's probably too risky to go for that particular concert. I have a gig of my own that conflicts with their 25 NOV date in SF.
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#2809341 - 10/15/16 11:54 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mark Schmieder]
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Here's the whole Orlando show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUEXiSq0SM

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#2809679 - 10/17/16 05:42 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dougb415]
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So, no updates or reviews? For shame...Shame!

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#2810451 - 10/21/16 04:02 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: dje31]
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Spoilers ahead: I went to the Boston show earlier this week. I thought it was fantastic. They looked like they were having fun, and it had more energy than the most recent Yes shows I've seen (a few years ago) or the videos I've seen of the current iteration of Yes.

Some of the updated arrangements were really cool, Long Distance Runaround being a standout for me. It seemed to have quite a different feel from the original. As previously mentioned, Lee Pomeroy (the bass player) did a very impressive ending to it with The Fish section using a looper pedal. He totally killed it.

There were a few little slip ups here and there, (e.g. Trevor and Jon not lining up the vocals on Hold On at one point), but it looked like they laughed about it which just emphasized that they're having a good time. Jon sounded really good. Trevor's playing was excellent as well. His takes on the early Yes stuff, which used to be a sore spot for some, to me fit right in as they tried to modernize these songs. Seeing Wakeman play the 90125/Big Generator era stuff was great as well. He added quite a few of his style flourishes throughout and I really enjoyed it. He was spot on with the tough stuff too, like the piano intro (no longer the only part of the intro) to Awaken. Regarding the backing tracks, yes they were there, but they seemed to be primarily intro backing pads and the like. I certainly didn't feel like he was cheating or phoning it in at all. When you see him playing a lead line with his right hand while dialing in a Minimoog patch with his left, or arms stretched playing parts on boards on opposite side of his rig, who cares if there are some ambient type backing tracks? He's still got it.

I really hope Keyboard mag has something about his rig on this tour, would love to see exactly what he had and how it was all set up. I'm guessing he's sending a submix of all the boards to the house and the overall level was being mixed in with the rest of the band, as the mix of the individual keyboards could have been better. I would hope the FoH guys would have corrected that if they'd been able to.

The show ended with Jon stating that they'll be back next summer with new music and something along the lines of "you won't believe what we're doing". Looking forward to it.
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#2810459 - 10/21/16 05:09 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mighty Ferguson]
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I really hope Keyboard mag has something about his rig on this tour, would love to see exactly what he had and how it was all set up. I'm guessing he's sending a submix of all the boards to the house and the overall level was being mixed in with the rest of the band, as the mix of the individual keyboards could have been better. I would hope the FoH guys would have corrected that if they'd been able to.

Hmmmm...and here's me with tix to see them already... idea

Maybe Gino wil let me cover it for the mag. I'll ask.

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#2810483 - 10/21/16 09:33 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Saw them tonight in Wallingford, CT -- 2nd row center! Fantastic show. Jon Anderson has full voice. Wakeman is still Wakeman. Whatever you may think of Rabin vs. Howe, Rabin plays with more energy and stage charisma, and I thought did a great job not just with his own stuff (naturally) but with the Howe-originated stuff as well. Everything full tempo and high energy, unlike the last time I saw Yes.
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#2810529 - 10/22/16 09:36 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Maybe Gino wil let me cover it for the mag. I'll ask.

Green light. cool grin

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#2810531 - 10/22/16 09:41 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2810544 - 10/22/16 10:30 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Green light. cool grin

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Awesome. I wish I could get everything else I ask for that quickly. whistle
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#2810546 - 10/22/16 10:31 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Mighty Ferguson]
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Green light. cool grin

Awesome. I wish I could get everything else I ask for that quickly. whistle

Me, too...

Good call, brother - thanks!

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#2810579 - 10/22/16 02:06 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Dave Bryce]
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#2810655 - 10/23/16 06:22 AM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: davedoerfler]
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My wife has been a Yes fan for 45 years and first saw them a year or so before me in the 70s. She always wanted to meet Jon (we'd both already met Rick and I'd never met Trevor) so she sprung for the "meet and greet" which included the sound check. I sat pretty much right in front of Trevor and got to watch his playing close up. Amazing! Great show!! I was disappointed they didn't do anything from Talk but maybe next time.
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#2810715 - 10/23/16 04:47 PM Re: ARW - Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman [Re: Bosendorphen]
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Not sure if this is the same rig for the ARW tour, but of interest none the less.




Regarding the use of tracks. Yes has almost always used them. Even the Yessongs movie shows clear points where tracks are being used. (specifically the pipe organ in "Close To The Edge") so I'm not terribly surprised or disappointed. Heck most bands I see playing the Casino circuit are running tracks these days.

There is absolutely no question it could be done with a smaller rig, and it probably would be easier. I think it would be entirely do-able with 5 (allowing for 2 minimoogs) but as much as a cape, having a ton of keyboards is part of Wakeman's schtick.

I am very sad they are not doing Vancouver on this tour. I'm not sure how many more times any of us in North America will get a chance to see Wakeman live, let alone with Anderson doing Yes music in a full band.
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