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#2841984 - 03/15/17 02:26 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: AnotherScott]
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Who would have thought the plot would thicken like this after 175 pages?

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#2841987 - 03/15/17 02:35 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: OrpheusNY]
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It's the KC version of "New Coke". laugh
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#2841988 - 03/15/17 02:41 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: AnotherScott]
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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
So if you had to do it again, would you

a) stick with the v3 at the higher weight
b) go with the v5 anyway because, to you, the advantages of the v3 are not worth the extra weight
c) skip the SS entirely, because the v3 is too heavy for you, and the v5 is too sonically compromised for you?

I love the v3 to bits. May be my favorite combo amp ever. It was not too heavy for me - was less than my Motion Sound - although it was certainly more than one would expect from something that size.

I got the v5 because I blew a driver on my v3, so Aspen took the opportunity to give me a new one. I admit - I jumped at the opportunity to get a lighter unit (why not, right?), but if I had any idea of the difference in sound, I most likely would not have taken the v5.

Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
So how long are you gonna let your amp live in TO?

Hopefully until after my next gig. grin

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#2841994 - 03/15/17 03:09 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: AnotherScott]
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My personal take on the weight of the v3 unit is, while it is kind of a heavy little bugger, it's such small package that it's less of an issue because of the ergonomics. When I carry mine, my arm holding it is pretty close to my body. At least for me, that feels like less of a strain than something bigger and more cumbersome. YMMV...

I'll leave the unit with dB for a week or so if any other local peeps are interested A/Bing them together. And if that's OK with dB of course.....



Edited by zxcvbnm098 (03/15/17 03:14 PM)

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#2841996 - 03/15/17 03:19 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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Originally Posted By: zxcvbnm098
I'll leave the unit with dB for a week or so if any other local peeps are interested A/Bing them together. And if that's OK with dB of course.....

So, how far away does Aspen live? ;-)
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#2841997 - 03/15/17 03:24 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: zxcvbnm098]
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Originally Posted By: zxcvbnm098
My personal take on the weight of the v3 unit is, while it is kind of a heavy little bugger, it's such small package that it's less of an issue because of the ergonomics. When I carry mine, my arm holding it is pretty close to my body. At least for me, that feels like less of a strain than something bigger and more cumbersome. YMMV...

I carry mine in a rolling case for an 8 channel PA head, so - as previously mentioned - the weight wasn't that big a deal to me.

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I'll leave the unit with dB for a week or so if any other local peeps are interested A/Bing them together. And if that's OK with dB of course.....

Sure... thu

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#2842452 - 03/17/17 10:38 AM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Sorry, what is the V5?
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#2842480 - 03/17/17 11:53 AM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: zaphod betamax]
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I believe there have been two different revisions since the v3 was released. One took the weight down a few pounds - I'm not sure of the specifics, or of any other changes to the electronics or drivers. The latest version took the weight down a bunch more - again, not sure of the specifics of other changes to any electronics or drivers, if any. The v3's output jack weren't sealed, so it has an issue with air coming through it with high volume/low frequency program material. That has been fixed in the current rev.

While there has been no official name change, we've been referring to them that way to keep straight which one we're talking about.

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#2842525 - 03/17/17 03:58 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: Dave Bryce]
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so the experts are advising that improvements to the v3 made it ... worse? huh. that is a thickening plot indeed!
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#2842530 - 03/17/17 04:30 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: MotiDave]
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Originally Posted By: MotiDave
so the experts are advising that improvements to the v3 made it ... worse? huh. that is a thickening plot indeed!

I dont know about "experts", but I definitely prefer the v3. In no way do I claim to speak for everyone, though. YMMV... idk

I'm not sure too many people will even get the opportunity to compare the two, so I imagine it won't be much of an issue. As I've said a few times - the v5 still sounds like a Space Station. thu

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#2842532 - 03/17/17 05:11 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: Dave Bryce]
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hard for me to believe that I have had my CPS SS3 for 2 years now. Time passes quickly for me. Guess mine is the original v3.
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#2842737 - 03/18/17 07:25 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: davedoerfler]
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Same here. Solid unit, no complaints.
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#2842870 - 03/19/17 12:51 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: cphollis]
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My old Behringer packed in after 5 years of faithful service. I'm not gigging as much now, but I still need a monitor and something to go through at home when I'm not plugged into headphones.

The SSv3 (or 5, whatever!) would be perfect, but with my buying a Kronos at the end of the month, I'm not sure I can afford it. Are there any alternatives similar to the V3 that could get me by for the next year or so? I got on fine with my tiny Behringer, but would like something with a bit more oomph. Due to space issues, carrying around 2 PA speakers for monitoring simply isn't an option. Any thoughts?
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#2842875 - 03/19/17 01:07 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: Nadroj]
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Originally Posted By: Nadroj
Any thoughts?


None that would help based on what you posted. You are in a conundrum. idk
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#2842895 - 03/19/17 03:13 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: davedoerfler]
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So I haz a question. If v3 is considered the first generation, v4 the second with slightly less weight, and v5 the current, any ideas where the serial numbers break so we know which one we have? I'm pretty sure mine is a v3 but am curious. I suppose I could slap it on the scales and check the weight.

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#2842904 - 03/19/17 04:54 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: midinut]
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Originally Posted By: midinut
So I haz a question. If v3 is considered the first generation, v4 the second with slightly less weight, and v5 the current, any ideas where the serial numbers break so we know which one we have? I'm pretty sure mine is a v3 but am curious. I suppose I could slap it on the scales and check the weight.

Get on a scale with and without it. Based on an earlier post from Aspen:

first gen of the v3 = approx 41 lbs
2nd gen of the v3 ("v4") approx 39 lbs
3rd gen of the v3 ("v5") approx 32 lbs
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#2842916 - 03/19/17 06:06 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: AnotherScott]
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In a post on 12/22/16, Aspen said that production run #9 of the SS3 was the first to incorporate the new digital switching power supply and plywood cabinet construction that characterize what we now call v.5. I don't think he mentioned the exact dates of production run #9, but his last post on KC (dated 2/3/17) offered this guidance regarding dates and serial numbers:

Originally Posted By: Aspen
Originally Posted By: NBrooks
Hi Aspen,
Could you let us know please how we would identify the 'new' SSv3s (the lighter ones) for when they appear in retail chains...e.g. is there a serial number run to be looking out for?

The last 4 digits of the serial number tell you the month and year of it's production; so Run #10 made in October of last year will read '1016'.

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#2843224 - 03/20/17 05:18 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: slowtraveler]
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I've had my SS3 for two years now, and it's served me well during that time. Unfortunately the sub out has stopped working. It's not a showstopper for me, as there are other ways, but it'd be handy neverthlees.

As I recall someone posted instructions as to how to get the amp out of the box, somewhere in the last 176 pages. Could somone repost that info if possible - save me the effort of trawling thru the thread. Many thanks in advance.
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#2844169 - 03/23/17 11:42 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: John Tweed]
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Take heart folks, Aspen might be banned but he's still watching over us! He contacted me outside of the forum after seeing my post and sent me the instructions I was asking for. He also pointed out that the schematics for all his designs are available at https://aspenandassoc.com/schematics/

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#2844269 - Yesterday at 10:31 AM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: Dave Bryce]
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Hey, Dave.

If you go back to the original post that started this thread (Page #1, June 2014), you see that it was mine. I haven't been on KC for a long time (long story).
Anyway, I just saw that you had to ban Aspen. That's too bad. But rules are rules.
Just wanted to reinforce your comment that Aspen is "easy to find." He certainly is, and I have always found him accessible via direct email and phone calls.
Thanks for moderating this site, and also for contributing to this humungous SpaceStation thread!

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#2844276 - Yesterday at 11:05 AM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: cphollis]
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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
hard for me to believe that I have had my CPS SS3 for 2 years now. Time passes quickly for me. Guess mine is the original v3.

Originally Posted By: cphollis
Same here. Solid unit, no complaints.


Same. I got mine from Aspen's shop that Jan '15 just after NAMM. They were back-ordered in delivering to SW, so I imagine that makes mine one of the first dozen or two deployed. Just lent it out yesterday to a guitarist/singer who came back raving about the sound, and the familiar report that FOH pulled him out completely for the second set because it was doing such a nice job filling the large space on its own. I tend to buy early and "niche" with the intent for long miles, and this speaker has rewarded that tendency in spades.
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#2844287 - Yesterday at 11:31 AM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: MathOfInsects]
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Are you guys still talking about this?...

I guess I will check back in another year....


Edited by HammondDave (Yesterday at 11:32 AM)
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#2844292 - Yesterday at 11:55 AM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: HammondDave]
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It's still an active topic. People who discover it are curious and want to ask all sorts of questions, despite the enormous amount that's been written already.
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#2844337 - Yesterday at 02:40 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: John Tweed]
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Take heart folks, Aspen might be banned but he's still watching over us! He contacted me outside of the forum after seeing my post


Awww, I'm telling. cop grin
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#2844339 - Yesterday at 02:49 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: davedoerfler]
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Can we have another thread after the XL this summer?
I'll share pics of my Quad SSv3 stack with QSC Dual 18" Sub and stereo XL satellites....
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#2844386 - Yesterday at 07:28 PM Re: Head's-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back [Re: hardware]
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I'm still kind of hesitant on the XL. Yeah, I get the concept, and lord knows I'm a huge fan of the SSv3.

But I'm not sure the concept scales, especially vs. other alternatives. There's a high-fidelity thing that sort of matters at that price point vs. sheer volume.

We'll see. Aspen has proven me wrong before, let's see if he can do it again.
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