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Drum Machines? #2579879 03/11/14 09:09 PM
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OK, so I've had this Alesis SR-16 drum machine for maybe 10 years. I can't remember why I even bought it but pulled it out of the drawer the other day, plugged it in and opened the manual. I again realized why I put it in the drawer 10 years ago.

Wow, you could get a college degree on operating one of those things. Really cool demo function and I can make some drum sounds but thats where it stops.

What practical use does this thing really have - for me, a bass player? Otherwise I'm selling it.

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I had either an SR-16 or an HR-16, whichever is older. I presume that means I had the HR-16. I also found that as a non-drummer, programming it was just not gonna happen. So I used it with the midi-out from my computer. The sequencing from Band-in-a-Box triggered the HR-16 sounds. It worked really well for that, since quality sampled drum sounds were expensive way back then.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Paul K] #2579890 03/11/14 09:45 PM
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What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?













You only have to punch the instructions into the drum machine once.

It never gets old.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: jcadmus] #2579899 03/11/14 10:20 PM
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I own an Akai drum machine which is similar to the Alesis.

Sometimes when teaching a lesson I will turn it on and play either guitar or keyboard and then my student can practice "playing with a band."

Re: Drum Machines? [Re: jeremy c] #2579974 03/12/14 07:21 AM
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I've got an SR-16 gathering dust as well.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Richard W] #2580335 03/13/14 01:01 AM
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Pretty outdated these days, but good for it's time. If you wanted to do a duo with a guitar player and use it for your drummer, that's what you'd use it for, I suppose you could practice with it using it as a fancy metronome.


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I once had a Roland of some sort, I bought it used and sold it a few years later, dirt simple to program, and its drum and percussion sounds sounded great. I wish I'd kept it, it is more fun than a metronome, and it had some really slinky Latin grooves that were catchy and challenging to make a bass line fit to.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Bottom End] #2580365 03/13/14 08:55 AM
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I have an HR 16 which has sat in a drawer for years. I found live programming straightforward but never got the hang of the stepwise version. I did use some of my programs live back then in a streetsoul kind of context with a singer which was fun but nowadays I don't think I'd ever use one live.

For practising I use the drumgenius app which has recreated classic drum patterns by well known drummers (lots of jazz but other things too) which loop and you can change the tempo easily.

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/drumgenius/id492279351?mt=8

And the app developer is a bass player - Mauro Battisti

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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Imogene] #2580381 03/13/14 09:44 AM
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If anyone is interested in selling their Alesis drum machine I am interested in them.

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I have a Zoom pedal that has a drum machine built in that's kind of fun to practice with.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: jcadmus] #2580457 03/13/14 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: jcadmus
What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?

You only have to punch the instructions into the drum machine once.

It never gets old.
Beat me to it, and, no, it never does get old...



Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Chad Thorne] #2580494 03/13/14 01:18 PM
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Holy crap...does EVERYONE have an Alesis SR-16 collecting dust? Because I do, too. I remember how difficult it was to program it. Just getting sounds to match up to a beat that you liked was a bit of a chore.

And now? I think it's ridiculous to even THINK of using something like the SR-16 anymore. Apple has made it infinitely easier to program drum for some home demos & recording projects with Garage Band


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Nicklab] #2580496 03/13/14 01:21 PM
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I could actually use another one. Sometimes I teach lessons in my studio and sometimes in my house and it would be nice to not have to carry things back and forth (even though the two places are only 50 feet apart).

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Originally Posted By: jeremy c
I could actually use another one. Sometimes I teach lessons in my studio and sometimes in my house and it would be nice to not have to carry things back and forth (even though the two places are only 50 feet apart).


Seriously? If you want another, feel free to PM me.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Nicklab] #2580520 03/13/14 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nicklab
Holy crap...does EVERYONE have an Alesis SR-16 collecting dust? Because I do, too. I remember how difficult it was to program it. Just getting sounds to match up to a beat that you liked was a bit of a chore.


So, are you saying you DO have to punch the instructions into a drum machine more than once?

Because that completely messes up my joke.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: jcadmus] #2580524 03/13/14 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: jcadmus
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Holy crap...does EVERYONE have an Alesis SR-16 collecting dust? Because I do, too. I remember how difficult it was to program it. Just getting sounds to match up to a beat that you liked was a bit of a chore.


So, are you saying you DO have to punch the instructions into a drum machine more than once?

Because that completely messes up my joke.


So sorry. I only do setups for my own jokes.


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Phil, I also use the Drum Genius app — very nice.

I've also got an HR 16 . . .

Let me know if you're interested, Jeremy.

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If anyone is interested in selling their Alesis drum machine I am interested in them.

Re: Drum Machines? [Re: johngoldsby] #2580562 03/13/14 03:05 PM
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Much appreciated, John!


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: Nicklab] #2580667 03/13/14 07:00 PM
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Also had one. Also collected dust. Recorded one OK tune with it, so, I guess that made it useful.
Sold it for what I paid for it, so, really can't complain too much.
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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: b5pilot] #2580763 03/14/14 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: b5pilot
I have a Zoom pedal that has a drum machine built in that's kind of fun to practice with.


My drummer's name is Dora.....Pan Dora.


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Re: Drum Machines? [Re: lug] #2580946 03/14/14 08:50 PM
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OK, its gotta go. I'm thinking craigslist for 70 or 80 bucks. That's what they go for on ebay with shipping. For my purposes, I get a whole lot of mileage out of a simple click metronome. I'm not the techie type, still rockin the flip phone (but I do have a laptop now). Thanks guys.

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My new drummer's name is Al Essees.

You can call him Al.

Re: Drum Machines? [Re: jeremy c] #2581140 03/15/14 06:24 PM
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The SR16 is one of the easiest drum machines to program compared to its contemporaries. Actually almost all drum machines work the same way in terms of UI and user experience. The only exceptions are the grid-style step entry of older machines and the ones that focus on electronica. The manual isn't too hot, but I would recommend looking on YouTube for started videos.

But if you can't think of a use for it off the top of your head, a drum machine really isn't for you. Sell it.


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I have an old Oberheim DX. I use to program both beats and in song mode. The drums in this machine sounded much closer to a live drummer. One of the down sides were the cymbals, there was not a ride. The crash was great and when using just a beat I would do cymbal crashes and stops and starts with an occasion fill and would do tom endings in combination with the bass drum. My understanding is the drum samples were those of Jeff Porcaro. The Oberheim only breaks down to 48ths but even moving the snare 1/48 was sometimes the only change needed to put the groove where it should be.

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Originally Posted By: Wally Malone
I have an old Oberheim DX. I use to program both beats and in song mode. The drums in this machine sounded much closer to a live drummer. One of the down sides were the cymbals, there was not a ride. The crash was great and when using just a beat I would do cymbal crashes and stops and starts with an occasion fill and would do tom endings in combination with the bass drum. My understanding is the drum samples were those of Jeff Porcaro. The Oberheim only breaks down to 48ths but even moving the snare 1/48 was sometimes the only change needed to put the groove where it should be.

Wally


I had one of those! Really sorry to have let it go. It had the down sides you noted and also no midi sync. But it did really sound good as far as it went. And it was so, so easy to program. At least it made perfect sense to me. To have this one back again...

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Originally Posted By: Tenstrum

Thank you for this! Not all of us are Apple acolytes.


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