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#2866505 - 07/12/17 09:16 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: Dave Osoff]
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The Sub does free up the SSv3 for bolder tones.
What I like most about HX-3 and Lester is I can switch Configuration A to B using a MIDI CC.
Step on Lesters true bypass and get my best HX-3 tones.
This is where the MIDI CC Remote settings you taught me really pay off.
Drawbars as presets are not the juice on the HX-3.
It's controlling parameters saved for C3, Rotary, Tube Amp, Master Volume, even modulation depth. So thanks again.

I get a great Earl Grant kind of sound that has smoking Rotary ramps and cleaner sound.
Switch Scenes on my Physis K4 and I'm back into the 70s Rock tones.

I would love some more ramp controls, but the balance drive and slow/fast settings, plus those Tung-Sol Tubes sound so good I'm overlooking that ATM.

Just love this distorted wooden sounding box.
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#2866824 - 07/14/17 10:41 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: hardware]
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Ronnie Argent to Earl Grant to Jon Lord.
All using HX-3, Lester K Bypass, and the Radial Space Heater.
Extremely happy for another few months...

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#2867412 - 07/17/17 09:30 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: hardware]
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Are you using the Lester K for overdrive also?

One reason I might be interested in a sim like the K is that it is hard to switch from a CV setting to a leslie sim setting. Even on the Mojo or Key B, "brake" still has the sim on.

So far I don't know if I can switch from the mono CV to a stereo sim setting on the HX3. I probably already know I can't...

Does the Lester K run on a battery? One less wall wart headache if so.

Still digging the HX3 CV. The right playback source ( speakers/ headphones ) are a MUST to get good CV.

I am using JVC HARX 300 headphones with the HX3 with great results. It has the right percussion balance and the CV responds nicely to these phones. $12.44 shipped from Walmart!! Seriously... Great bass and the right response curve for organ sounds.

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#2867528 - 07/17/17 05:23 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: LX88]
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Lesters Overdrive is the whole reason.
It's got that dirty wooden sound, perfect.
The fast ramp down is the only thing I don't care for.

But going from a beautiful clean B3 with semi dirty Scanner vibrato, to a balls accurate 147 has really helped me.

Lester K + Bypass with Configuration A RotaryL/RotaryR
Lester K on with Configuration B Organ/BPed and deepest chorus/C3 vib

These are 2 I use.
Master Volume and Tube Amp need MIDI CC assigned
As does Vibrato levels

Blue3 and B5 sound better through Lester K, but still have the sound of laundry hung over speaker quality.
Ferrofish DSP with an additional JCM Amp sim still is the go to Jon Lord choice.

But that's how I cover the Hammond stuff.
My Gibson 101E, Farfisa and Continental sounds are all on Omnisphere.

First time I've been satisfied with all organs.

To me it was like cringing doing Sax solos for years.
Its no fun playing solos when you know you sound like a Kazoo...
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#2867719 - 07/18/17 05:35 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: hardware]
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Can the HX3 go out in mono to the Lester K in Stereo?

CV on the HX3 only sounds good to me in mono. That was possibly the main reason why I ditched the version I got 2 years ago. But CV improvements has possibly been made since then.

Once again, I am 99 percent satisfied with the HX3 CV. My ONLY issue is in the extreme upper register... like the last 3 or 4 notes. Other than that the CV is extremely sweet now... and the organ has such clarity.

Also... the HX3 can sound like an old organ on non-percussion drawbar settings. That real old Jimmy Smith comping sound... the HX3 gets closer that just about any clone I have had.

I have heard the B5 program do old organs pretty well BTW... but I do not have that one have only heard demos.

Really digging the HX3 this summer.

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#2867729 - 07/18/17 06:36 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: LX88]
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Yes.
Try Organ, which is no Tube Amp.
Amp, which is Tube Amp + Drawbars.
Both Mono.
In Config A or B you'll always see Amp/BPed.
Or Organ/BPed...

I like C3 the most in Organ (no Tube Amp) and the cleanest settings are best.
AO Tube set to 0.
Percussion Mute 150-200...
Anything that ads dirt get rid off.
Lester is all the dirt you'll need...

Again, this is a Rock 147 device.
You don't need it unless you want the wood/resonate sound with accurate Tube Distortion.
Digital Overdrive or distortion works okay, but loses clarity and ads harshness.
The Tung-Sol Tubes is pure grease, no crispy ass Digital crap...
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#2867780 - 07/19/17 05:51 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: LX88]
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Originally Posted By: LX88


... the HX3 CV. The right playback source ( speakers/ headphones ) are a MUST to get good CV.

I am using JVC HARX 300 headphones with the HX3 ... $12.44 shipped from Walmart!!
Seriously... Great bass and the right response curve for organ sounds.


Now, since you´ve found the right combo for yourself, at that price, it might be a good idea buying a quantity of phones for your audience, making sure they have a chance to enjoy that great HX3 C/V too.
Eventually you manage getting a discount from Walmart, then give away the phones for free at the entrance when gigging.

crazy

A.C.

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#2867781 - 07/19/17 05:54 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware
Lesters ...
The fast ramp down is the only thing I don't care for.


No "ramp up/dwn" (trim pot) adjustment somewhere internally in Lester K ?

A.C.

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#2867813 - 07/19/17 08:03 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: LX88


... the HX3 CV. The right playback source ( speakers/ headphones ) are a MUST to get good CV.

I am using JVC HARX 300 headphones with the HX3 ... $12.44 shipped from Walmart!!
Seriously... Great bass and the right response curve for organ sounds.


Now, since you´ve found the right combo for yourself, at that price, it might be a good idea buying a quantity of phones for your audience, making sure they have a chance to enjoy that great HX3 C/V too.
Eventually you manage getting a discount from Walmart, then give away the phones for free at the entrance when gigging.

crazy

A.C.
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#2867930 - 07/19/17 05:27 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: hardware
Lesters ...
The fast ramp down is the only thing I don't care for.


No "ramp up/dwn" (trim pot) adjustment somewhere internally in Lester K ?

A.C.


Haven't checked that out.....duh.
For a buck 50 I figured it was a static Pedal with no DSP Style paging.

But the outputs on this are hot, I ran it through an AUX Channel in the XITE-1.
Damn Kontakt guitar instruments sound like Nantucket Sleighride.
Reminds me of my old S760 Sampler outs. Big sound...

Time to read the wallet sized manual.
Not holding my breath though....
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#2867932 - 07/19/17 06:01 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: hardware]
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Originally Posted By: hardware


Haven't checked that out.....duh.
...
Time to read the wallet sized manual.
Not holding my breath though....


Well,- it might be not documented in the user manual, but can be, trimpots exist for service.
Unfortunately,- opening the unit will ruin the warranty, so I avoid encouraging you to do so.
Eventually EHX provides more info to registered customers ... wink

A.C.

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#2867935 - 07/19/17 06:17 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: Al Coda]
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#2867984 - 07/20/17 05:46 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: Al Coda]
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Originally Posted By: Al Coda
Originally Posted By: hardware


Haven't checked that out.....duh.
...
Time to read the wallet sized manual.
Not holding my breath though....


Well,- it might be not documented in the user manual, but can be, trimpots exist for service.
Unfortunately,- opening the unit will ruin the warranty, so I avoid encouraging you to do so.
Eventually EHX provides more info to registered customers ... wink

A.C.


No joy, but no biggie. I lose that Steppenwolf The Pusher ramp I love.
Guitarist just bought Lester G after hearing the K.

HX-3 / Lester K and B3000 w/ ECC Tubes and DSP Ring Mod has mo covered.

Can't wait to hear Spacestation XL.
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#2870199 - 08/01/17 09:35 AM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: hardware]
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My HX3 CV settings are...

Scanner Gears 100 of 100 - important for scanner speed

Scanner Leak 77 of 100

Vibrato Channel Amp Mod 30 of 200

Vib Channel Pre emphasis 87 of 200

Vib Channel reflect 100 of 200

Vib Channel response 200 of 200

Line Box Level 100 of 200

Channel Bypass level 75 of 200

C3 Modulation amount 200 of 200

As you see some adjustments are maxed and some are at about half.

Overall I am getting good results in my A/ B comparison to the Crumar Mojo. The Mojo still has the edge in the upper most 3 of 4 notes. For some reason the HX3 tones tend to vibrate at different speeds up there. The Mojo tones are a bit smoother on the last few tones.

However, playback source can affect things greatly.

Also... the Mojo CV has issues of its own ( my settings, possibly not yours), so this basically boils down to apples and oranges.

There are things that I really like about the HX3 CV. For most of what I am using it for ( practice voicing melodies in the mid register) it sounds luscious.

Overall I greatly prefer the HX3 leslie sim to the Mojo. Sorry Guido etc.

I am not sure what is going on in the extreme upper register but "beta testers" please take note. Also , some of the issues are with 5 1/3 drawbar out on third percussion slow decay ( my preference) only.

The HX3 module packs a lot of bang for the buck. Recently have been pairing it with different ( some older Casio) controllers. It's interesting getting by on presets. Basically I set up a preset and dial in one upper drawbar on the dial, so I am getting that to work somewhat.

I would love to hear more about these CV settings from someone who understands more about what is going on with what they have tried to do with all these adjustments.

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#2870290 - 08/01/17 02:59 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: LX88]
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I don't see these two controls in my HX-3 Remote app. Where are they?

Line Box Level 100 of 200

Channel Bypass level 75 of 200

Does anyone have a good setting for the other C/V settings V1-C1-V2-C2-V3? mine are all set the same currently.

Thx, Mr. Anxiety

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#2870309 - 08/01/17 06:01 PM Re: HX3 MIDI expander module [Re: Mr. Anxiety]
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Line Box Level is one of the important adjustments.

This enables the intense nature of the original ( at least the one I heard 2 years ago) HX3 CV to be backed off somewhat. A few years ago there was too much vibrato " throb". Line Box Level tames this down considerably.

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