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#2898121 - 12/27/17 06:22 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
WesG Online   shocked
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Have you tried the new firmware? The organ sounds are significantly better.
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Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 31H
Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85
Roland: VR-09
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#2898163 - 12/27/17 09:46 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: WesG]
franky46 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/15
Posts: 16
was your question to me?
the fw was the reason that I started updating Mauros V-Combo app (and then went a bit further...).
Yes, the organ sound is better but still not nice.

anyway, the standalone app (does not require to install the CTRLR platform)

http://rrr.de/~franky/upload/V-Combo.exe

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Edited by franky46 (12/27/17 09:50 AM)

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#2898230 - 12/27/17 03:47 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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You don't like the VR09 organ sounds Franky? That surprises me. I really love them. What don't you like about them? I can't help wondering whether you have somehow managed to not use the best possible settings to get the sound you want.....
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#2898253 - 12/27/17 07:23 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: xKnuckles]
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Posts: 16
Hello,

the V-Combo Editor is now on the CTRLR website:

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor



@xKnuckles
The VR09 and the eternal discussion smile
I am no adept of a specific Hammond clone sound, I like the former Roland VR/VKs, the Nords, the XK/XS, Numas, Visconts and I am far from being a "pure Hammond-sound" fanatic, I get my goosebumps from the warm, swirling sound of my chérie, the ol'Acetone GT plugged to a 'crappy' Echolette. But the VR09, errrr, no. Not for my ears

What I don't like about it?

To start with the most important, the clean 'base' sound, which in the case of the VR is missing the overtone spectrum that makes a Hammond (clone) sound like a Hammond (clone) and not a cheesy Bontempi sine generator.
Then I try to compensate adding a bit of the missing overtones (e.g. some 4" and 2" to 8" etc), then start adding effects.
To get a kind of rock organ I play with OD (the 'distorsion' overdrive ... yeah, it adds... distorsion), compression, twin rotary, the tone-dial, organ EQ, etc, short, everything that never belonged to a pizza... I find a nice sound on two octaves, but when I quit those it returns to bad, when I get the higher tones right the lowers lack ground, when I get the lowers right, the highers become dumb, missing brilliance and 'scream'.
It's the thing with those disco girls layering tons of cosmetics on their face which makes them look like Mrs. Schiffer at the first glance, but better do not take a second look...

And then it comes to Jazz. That's my favorite (and I really really like ... the Dennerlein style)
Everything based on 8880... totally sucks on the VR09, and it's no 'ok I can live with it" - it's awfull, it hurts my ears (and not only mine!), my mind and my psyche.
In my dispair I once plugged the VB3 to the VR audio-in, put earphones on and spend weeks to reproduce the VB3 sounds on the VR. For some few it worked, but for the majority, oh my godness! No soul, no warmth, no magic, no mystic, no 'drug'.
Sincerely, I offer a bottle of good wine to the first who presents me a warm 8880...-like tube sound coming out of the VR.

This said, this is NO criticism of the VR, it is what it is. I own it since two-fourteen and after a period of glowing hate after leaving the initial expectations , started to like it, really. It's a highly mobile 5kg car boot allrounder that can do everying on a decent but not amateur level.
My only, very personal regret, if only Roland would have continued the VK8 engine... wink

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Edited by franky46 (12/27/17 08:07 PM)

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#2898289 - 12/28/17 07:13 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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I must need better ears. I have a hard time telling the difference between my actual tonewheel rig and my VR09/Vent when listening to live recordings (Zoom H4n) of my band.

The biggest "tell" is that my VR09/Vent rig is usually too loud. I must have a harder time balancing it in the stage mix for some reason. Probably because it's coming from a wedge. Also I will send the sound guy a submixed feed when it's VR09.............maybe I shouldn't be doing that. My piano level (CP4) is always good.

Wes
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Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 31H
Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85
Roland: VR-09
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#2898395 - 12/28/17 04:25 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
xKnuckles Offline
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Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 1598
Loc: United Kingdom
Originally Posted By: franky46
Hello,

the V-Combo Editor is now on the CTRLR website:

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor



@xKnuckles
The VR09 and the eternal discussion smile
I am no adept of a specific Hammond clone sound, I like the former Roland VR/VKs, the Nords, the XK/XS, Numas, Visconts and I am far from being a "pure Hammond-sound" fanatic, I get my goosebumps from the warm, swirling sound of my chérie, the ol'Acetone GT plugged to a 'crappy' Echolette. But the VR09, errrr, no. Not for my ears

What I don't like about it?

To start with the most important, the clean 'base' sound, which in the case of the VR is missing the overtone spectrum that makes a Hammond (clone) sound like a Hammond (clone) and not a cheesy Bontempi sine generator.
Then I try to compensate adding a bit of the missing overtones (e.g. some 4" and 2" to 8" etc), then start adding effects.
To get a kind of rock organ I play with OD (the 'distorsion' overdrive ... yeah, it adds... distorsion), compression, twin rotary, the tone-dial, organ EQ, etc, short, everything that never belonged to a pizza... I find a nice sound on two octaves, but when I quit those it returns to bad, when I get the higher tones right the lowers lack ground, when I get the lowers right, the highers become dumb, missing brilliance and 'scream'.
It's the thing with those disco girls layering tons of cosmetics on their face which makes them look like Mrs. Schiffer at the first glance, but better do not take a second look...

And then it comes to Jazz. That's my favorite (and I really really like ... the Dennerlein style)
Everything based on 8880... totally sucks on the VR09, and it's no 'ok I can live with it" - it's awfull, it hurts my ears (and not only mine!), my mind and my psyche.
In my dispair I once plugged the VB3 to the VR audio-in, put earphones on and spend weeks to reproduce the VB3 sounds on the VR. For some few it worked, but for the majority, oh my godness! No soul, no warmth, no magic, no mystic, no 'drug'.
Sincerely, I offer a bottle of good wine to the first who presents me a warm 8880...-like tube sound coming out of the VR.

This said, this is NO criticism of the VR, it is what it is. I own it since two-fourteen and after a period of glowing hate after leaving the initial expectations , started to like it, really. It's a highly mobile 5kg car boot allrounder that can do everying on a decent but not amateur level.
My only, very personal regret, if only Roland would have continued the VK8 engine... wink

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Thanks for the link, Franky - that looks very useful.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the Vr's sound. Clearly your ears are far more sensitive than mine (I freely admit to being no connesseur of organs, having never played a real one...). I just know that I love the sounds the Vr produces. smile What a shame that you cannot create the sound you are after.
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#2898489 - 12/29/17 08:22 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Registered: 04/14/15
Posts: 7
Originally Posted By: franky46
Hello,

the V-Combo Editor is now on the CTRLR website:

http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

Is there a way to export an instrument definition file or in some way manually extract it from this.
I would have liked to buy the VR-09 and use the Roland Atelier sounds from VArranger and need for this a .ins file.

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#2898564 - 12/29/17 05:31 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: Nils_O]
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Registered: 09/19/15
Posts: 16
Servus smile

@Nils: Nice idea ! But I have no glue about .ins files. From some documents I found it seems feasible to make a .ins file using the msb/msb/pc numbers, assuming the Arranger uses the 'bank'-formula '128*msb+lsb' ??! Do you have the .ins file specification?

4all: "V-Editor" update (dropped the KBD/GM2-tab to simplify working aera)
http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

don't know if I have better ears... hm, something to think about - at least it would be anything sensible in my anatomy... smile
In the end it's a question of personal taste (said the ape and bite the soap..as Germans say), expectation and application.

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#2898569 - 12/29/17 06:06 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Registered: 05/04/15
Posts: 356
Loc: Pacific NW
Hi Franky46

Thank you for making this editor, I am very much looking forward to trying it out!

Quick question - along with editing patches, can one use this as a simple patch manager?

I would like a simple way to re-arrange patches in memory, to save for different set-lists (my band leader likes to change the order of songs around frequently).

If you program could be used to re-sort and re-order patches, then re-load them into memory on the VR09, that alone would be fantastic!

Currently, re-arranging patches on the VR09 is a very slow thing to do, as it involves a lot of button pushes for each memory that you want to change (plus trying to remember what memory has what patch, without overwriting the patches you want, etc.).

Cheers,

Roy

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#2898673 - 12/30/17 11:08 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: roygBiv]
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Registered: 09/19/15
Posts: 16
Originally Posted By: roygBoo!

If you program could be used to re-sort and re-order patches, then re-load them into memory on the VR09,


Hello Roy,
to precise, when you speak about patches, you mean the registration (banks) and to rearrange them on keyboard?

If so: the onboard registrations cannot be accessed and manipulated by midi.
But as many VR-owner I was thinking about this problem. The solution is to use the registration export to USB-stick instead of midi.
The full registration set is saved to a VR09_nmk.UPG file on the usb-stick. These files are binary encoded and can be edited with a hex editor. Each single registration is represented by a binary block that can be moved to other positions within the file (this works).
As the CTRLR Panels can access the filesystem of the PC, it should be possible to write a parser for the upg-files.
The tool chain would be: on VR, save registration set, move the usb-stick to the PC, load the .upg-file to the V-Combo editor, rearrange the registrations and save, move the stick back into the VR, load the new registration set.
This seems possible, but this won't be for tomorrow.

An other feature to implement: with the all those new sounds, it would be nice to have the possibility to save and reload sound-registrations within the app...

so a lot of ideas, 2018 won't be boring smile

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#2898728 - 12/30/17 05:58 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Registered: 04/14/15
Posts: 7
Originally Posted By: franky46
Servus smile

@Nils: Nice idea ! But I have no glue about .ins files. From some documents I found it seems feasible to make a .ins file using the msb/msb/pc numbers, assuming the Arranger uses the 'bank'-formula '128*msb+lsb' ??! Do you have the .ins file specification?

4all: "V-Editor" update (dropped the KBD/GM2-tab to simplify working aera)
http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor

don't know if I have better ears... hm, something to think about - at least it would be anything sensible in my anatomy... smile
In the end it's a question of personal taste (said the ape and bite the soap..as Germans say), expectation and application.



No but it should look something like this, I copied form VArranger forum.
And as example MOXF ins file below.


[My Bank 0-0] ;<This is the name that will be displayed for the bank. You can decide it, but it need to be the same as in the .Instrument Definitions section
0=GrandPiano
1=BrightPiano
2=El.GrandPiano
3=Honkytonk

[My Super Bank 0-1]
0=GrandPiano KSP
1=BrightPiano KSP
2=El.GrandPiano KSP
3=Honkytonk KSP
4=ElectricPiano1 KSP

[Bank 0-114]
3=OctavePiano2
0=WarmGrand
4=GalaxyEP
19=HymnOrgan
20=Harmonium1
22=BluesHarp
23=TangoAccordion
33=ElectricBass

[Bank 121-1]
0=GrandPiano Wide
1=BrightPiano Wide
2=El.GrandPiano Wide
3=Honkytonk Wide

.Instrument Definitions ; <In this section you write all the banks and their number. You can have 128 banks (Changed by the MIDI CC 0 = MSB) of 128 banks (Changed by the MIDI CC 32 = LSB) The bank number to write is is the MSB * 128 + LSB
[Roland VR...]
Patch[0]=My Bank 0-0
Patch[1]=My Super Bank 0-1
Patch[114]=Bank 0-114
Patch[15489]=Bank 121-1 ;<Why 15489??? 121 * 128 + 1 = 15489



MOXF ins file looks like this.
; -----------------------------------------------------------
; Cakewalk Instrument Definition File for MOXF
; Generated by John Melas MOXF Total Librarian v2.3.1
; -----------------------------------------------------------

.Patch Names

[PRE1]
0=Pn:Full Concert Grand
1=Pn:Rock Grand Piano
2=Pn:Mellow Grand Piano
3=Pn:Glasgow
4=Pn:Romantic Piano
5=Pn:Aggressive Grand
6=Pn:Tacky
7=Pn:House Piano
8=Pn:Old and Squashed
9=Pn:Ballad Key
10=Pn:80s Layer
11=Pn:Ballad Stack
12=Pn:Piano Back
13=Pn:Piano & Strings
14=Pn:Piano & Ooh Choir
15=Pn:Monaural Grand MW
16=Pn:Old Blues
17=Pn:1968
18=Pn:CP 1979
19=Pn:CP70 Chorus
20=Pn:Journey
21=Kb:Vintage'74
22=Kb:R&B Soft
23=Kb:Early 70's
24=Kb:Soft Case
25=Kb:Crunchy Comp
26=Kb:Vintage Case
27=Kb:Hard Vintage
28=Kb:Sweetness MW+AS2
29=Kb:Phaser Vintage
30=Kb:Vintage Phase
31=Kb:Early Fusion
32=Kb:Neo Soul MW+AS1
33=Kb:1983 MW+AS1
34=Kb:Contempo
35=Kb:Clicky Dyno MW+AS2
36=Kb:Dyno Straight MW+AS2
37=Kb:Dyno Chorus MW+AS2
38=Kb:80s Boosted
39=Kb:Chorus Hard
40=Kb:Max Tine
41=Kb:Bell Chorus
42=Kb:Drive EP AS1
43=Kb:Vinyl EP AS1
44=Kb:Natural Wurli
45=Kb:Wurli EP Bright
46=Kb:Wurli Distortion AS1
47=Kb:Phaze Wurli
48=Kb:DX Legend
49=Kb:Bell DX
50=Kb:DX Woody
51=Kb:Full Tine
52=Kb:DX Mellow
53=Kb:DX Crisp
54=Kb:DX Celesta EP
55=Kb:DX Pluck EP
56=Kb:DX-7 II AS1
57=Kb:GS Tines AF1&2
58=Kb:Galaxy DX
59=Kb:TX816 Bell Piano
60=Kb:Marimba DX
61=Kb:DX5-Zero
62=Kb:Hybrid EP
63=Kb:Mixed Up
64=Kb:Dyno Wurli
65=Kb:Analog Piano
66=Kb:AhrAmI
67=Kb:Electro Piano
68=Kb:Transistor Piano
69=Kb:EP Pad
70=Kb:DX Pad
71=Kb:Dyno Choir
72=Kb:Vintage Clavi
73=Kb:Super Clavi
74=Kb:Stereo Clavi
75=Kb:Hollow Clavi
76=Kb:Nu Phasing
77=Kb:Touch Clavi
78=Kb:Pedal Wah Clavi FC2
79=Kb:Pulse Clavi
80=Kb:Guitarpsichord
81=Kb:Hipsichord
82=Or:16 + 8 + 5&1/3
83=Or:Jazz 2nd Perc + C3
84=Or:First 3 w/Perc
85=Or:Slow Jam
86=Or:Cool Cat
87=Or:Jazzy 1
88=Or:Jazzy 2
89=Or:Jazzy Chorus
90=Or:On Road AS1
91=Or:Progressy
92=Or:Rocky AS2
93=Or:Crunchy AS2
94=Or:1972 AS1
95=Or:Glassy AF1
96=Or:Clean
97=Or:All Bars Perc AF1&2
98=Or:Rotor Vibrato
99=Or:Vib Chorus AF1
100=Or:Soulemn
101=Or:Mellow AS2
102=Or:Fully
103=Or:FullDraw/CVibrato
104=Or:Even Out
105=Or:Harmonic Hole
106=Or:A Few Wheels
107=Or:Left Manual
108=Or:Draw Control
109=Or:Stop Rotar
110=Or:Clean Noise
111=Or:Walking Bass
112=Or:Greasy
113=Or:Swishie
114=Or:Solo Percussion AF2
115=Or:PercussionVibratoAF2
116=Or:Tiny Combo Bars 1
117=Or:Tiny Combo Bars 2
118=Or:Panther
119=Or:1967 Keys
120=Or:YD-45C
121=Or:Diamond Head
122=Or:Early Bird
123=Or:Moet
124=Or:Bollinger
125=Or:Vinyl Organ
126=Or:Alternator
127=Or:Flying Rhythm Bars

[PRE2]
0=Or:Roundabout
1=Or:Tradi
2=Or:Petit
3=Or:Fluty
4=Or:Fluty Pipe
5=Or:St. Peter
6=Or:St. Paul AF1&2
7=Or:Impromptu
8=Or:Mixture
9=Or:Reed Split
10=Or:Medieval MW
11=Or:Breath Pipe
12=Or:Reedy Pipe
13=Or:Sunday
14=Or:Accordions AF1&2
15=Cp:Soft Marimba
16=Cp:Vibes Bow MW
17=Cp:Twinkle
18=Cp:Stick Bell
19=Cp:Ice Bells
20=Cp:Bell Ice
21=Cp:Stack Bell
22=Cp:J-Pop
23=Cp:Chorus Bell
24=Cp:Handbell
25=Cp:Bell Chiff
26=Cp:Sako Bell
27=Cp:Nice Bell
28=Cp:Noisy Bell
29=Cp:Pop Bells & Pad MW
30=Cp:Going To Heaven
31=Cp:Digibox
32=Cp:Nibelungen
33=Cp:Wood Bell
34=Cp:Marimbell
35=Cp:Synth Steel Drum
36=Cp:Gamelan
37=Cp:Ethnic Dream
38=Cp:Mystic Bowl
39=Et:Mbira
40=Cp:Glass Mbira
41=Cp:Island Bell
42=Cp:Tibetan
43=Cp:Rimba Bells
44=Cp:Lost in Asia
45=Cp:Coconuts Random
46=Cp:Kodo
47=Cp:Timpani/Bell/Glocken
48=Cp:Orc Percussion
49=Gt:Classical AF1&2
50=Gt:High Tension AF1&2
51=Gt:Sao Paulo
52=Gt:Barcelona
53=Gt:Nylon Slide Vel
54=Gt:Nylon Harmonics Vel
55=Gt:Classical 12 Strings
56=Gt:Hip-Hop Nylon Guitar
57=Gt:Steel String AF1&2
58=Gt:Old Strings AF1&2
59=Gt:Steel Slide Vel
60=Gt:Mute & Slide Vel
61=Gt:Steel Harmonics Vel
62=Gt:Hip-Hop Steel Guitar
63=Gt:Hi Strings
64=Gt:Two Acoustics
65=Gt:2 Steel Strings
66=Gt:Big 12 Strings
67=Gt:Airy 12 AF1&2
68=Gt:Wide 12 strings AF1
69=Gt:12Strings Mono
70=Gt:Clean El & Ac 1
71=Gt:Clean El & Ac 2
72=Gt:Clean El & Ac 3
73=Gt:Strange 12
74=Gt:Jazzy Pick
75=Gt:Melodic Jazz
76=Gt:Fat Oil Jazz AF1&2
77=Gt:Touch Wah AF1
78=Gt:Baby AF1
79=Gt:Good Night
80=Gt:Dynamic Clean AF1&2
81=Gt:Single Coil Chorus
82=Gt:Distant
83=Gt:Some Hair
84=Gt:Clean Slide Vel
85=Gt:Hit It Hard AS2
86=Gt:Paddy Clean
87=Gt:Bluesy Clean Legato
88=Gt:Dual Coil '65
89=Gt:Dual Coil Amp AS1
90=Gt:Roto Guitar MW
91=Gt:Dual Coil Slide Vel
92=Gt:Dual Coil Slap Vel
93=Gt:Dual Coil 80s Clean
94=Gt:Dual Coil Rotary
95=Gt:Electric 12Strings
96=Gt:Rotator AF1&2
97=Gt:Middy Tremolo
98=Gt:Retro Flanger
99=Gt:Vintage Strum
100=Gt:Spanky
101=Gt:Rockabilly
102=Gt:2 Electrics AF1&2
103=Gt:Light Blues AF1&2
104=Gt:Dual Coil Semi Clean
105=Gt:Chorus Dist AF1&2
106=Gt:Tex Boogie
107=Gt:59 Combo AF1&2
108=Gt:Alternative Rocker
109=Gt:Overdrive Mute&Harmo
110=Gt:Crunched Up 376
111=Gt:Dynamic Amp AS1
112=Gt:Chuggin' Guitar
113=Gt:Chugga
114=Gt:Small Amp AS1
115=Gt:Metal Mute AS2
116=Gt:DistortionMute&Harmo
117=Gt:Cool Drive AS1
118=Gt:Hard Drive AS1&2
119=Gt:Hard Ramp AS1&2
120=Gt:Heavy Drive
121=Gt:No.1 GTR AS1&2
122=Gt:Snake Finger
123=Gt:Dual Coil Blue Lead
124=Gt:Over The Top
125=Gt:Voodooman
126=Gt:Killer Whammy
127=Gt:Latin Lover

[PRE3]
0=Gt:Oct FuzzPedalWah FC2
1=Gt:DualCoilLeadWah FC2
2=Gt:DualCoilHarmonicsVel
3=Gt:Crunchy Guitar
4=Gt:Beater AS2
5=Gt:HIP Mute
6=Gt:Pedal Steel
7=Gt:DualCoil80sCleanMute
8=Gt:Mid Drive (2handGtr)
9=Gt:HardRocker(2handGtr)
10=Gt:ToughTube (2handGtr)
11=Gt:DriveWah (2handGtr)
12=Gt:Resonator Guitar
13=Bs:Velo Growl
14=Bs:GrooveAcoustic AF1&2
15=Bs:Upright
16=Bs:Prec Flat Wound
17=Bs:Round Wound
18=Bs:Active P
19=Bs:Mid Range Finger
20=Bs:Active TRB
21=Bs:Passive BB AF1&2
22=Bs:Vintage JB AF1&2
23=Bs:StraightFinger AF1&2
24=Bs:JB Flat Wound AF1&2
25=Bs:Finger PBs AF1
26=Bs:Prec Amped AF1
27=Bs:Finger Bass Amp AF1
28=Bs:Fret Buzzy
29=Bs:Small Cabinet
30=Bs:Simple Pick
31=Bs:Pick Open
32=Bs:Pick Mute
33=Bs:Pick Pull
34=Bs:Straight Pick AF1&2
35=Bs:Velo Bass
36=Bs:Slap Switch
37=Bs:Fretless Dry
38=Bs:Fretless Solo
39=Bs:PBassFingerDist AF1
40=Bs:Fuzz Bass AF1AS1
41=Bs:Gnarly Bass
42=Bs:BaCement
43=Bs:Dist Tama Bass
44=Bs:5th Fuzz Bass
45=Bs:Chili Bass
46=Bs:Big Cabinet
47=Bs:Hybrid Bass 1
48=Bs:Hybrid Bass 2
49=Bs:3 VCOs
50=Bs:Brain Bass AF1&2
51=Bs:Lo Boy AF1&2 AS1&2
52=Bs:Dark Bass
53=Bs:RnBass RB
54=Bs:Fundamental
55=Bs:Fat Sine Resonance
56=Bs:Moon Bass
57=Bs:More Fatty
58=Bs:Chill Out Bass AF1
59=Bs:Growler
60=Bs:Smacked
61=Bs:boooooooooom
62=Bs:Biting
63=Bs:Boogie A LegatoAF1RB
64=Bs:Uni Punch
65=Bs:Noise Bass
66=Bs:Single Oscillator
67=Bs:Unison
68=Bs:Long Spit AF2
69=Bs:Big Bass
70=Bs:Bass&Comp!
71=Bs:Rave Blade
72=Bs:Plastic Bass
73=Bs:Funky Resonance RB
74=Bs:Phat Three
75=Bs:Needle Bass
76=Bs:Acidd
77=Bs:Boom Bass AF1
78=Bs:West Coast
79=Bs:Wazzo
80=Bs:Fast PWM Bass
81=Bs:Bass Pedal
82=Bs:Oxide
83=Bs:Bowngo
84=Bs:Wide Synth Bass
85=Bs:Dry Synth Bass
86=Bs:Kick Bass Legato
87=Bs:Keep Dancin' AS2
88=Bs:Velo Master
89=Bs:Wah Bass
90=Bs:Pulse Step AF1
91=Bs:Phat Step AS1&2
92=Bs:Octave Analog
93=Bs:Sync Bass
94=Bs:Sync Big
95=Bs:Puncher AS1
96=Bs:Dark Comp AF1&2
97=Bs:Simple Bass AS2
98=Bs:Fat Sine
99=Bs:Kompressor
100=Bs:Dark Uni
101=Bs:Fight Bass
102=Bs:Byon Bass
103=Bs:One Voice
104=Bs:Pro-Attack AF1
105=Bs:Bobby Bass
106=Bs:Trance Bass AS2
107=Bs:Short Sequence Bass
108=Bs:Lately
109=Bs:Faaat Pulse
110=Bs:Short PWM Bass
111=Bs:Hyper Velocity AF1
112=Bs:Deep Point
113=Bs:Pulse Stop
114=Bs:Oh Bee Bass
115=Bs:Booming Bass
116=Bs:Army Bass
117=Bs:Punchy Drone RB
118=Bs:Dee Tune
119=Bs:Chorus Pulse
120=Bs:Sweeper
121=Bs:Old House Organ
122=Bs:Data Run
123=Bs:Sharp 3o3
124=Bs:Short 3o3 Saw
125=Ld:Acid Fun AS1
126=Bs:Compu Bass
127=Bs:Squeaker Bass

[PRE4]
0=St:Violin Solo 1
1=St:Violin Solo 2 AF1
2=St:Viola Solo 1
3=St:Viola Solo 2 AF1
4=St:Cello Solo
5=St:Cello Duo AF1
6=St:Contrabass Solo
7=St:Contrabass Solo2 AF1
8=St:Quartet
9=St:Small Section
10=St:Small Ensemble
11=St:Almighty
12=St:Medium Section
13=St:Medium Hall
14=St:Medium Large Section
15=St:Quick Bows
16=St:Aggressive AF1
17=St:Large Section
18=St:Octave Ensemble
19=St:Full Chamber
20=St:Stryngs
21=St:Dynamik Bow
22=St:Symphonic Pizzicato
23=St:Plucky Pizzicato
24=St:Octave Pizzes
25=St:Tremolo Strings 1
26=St:TremoloStrings Small
27=St:Spicato Large
28=St:Disco AF1
29=St:Ens Mix
30=St:Lush
31=St:Back Ground
32=St:Romantic
33=St:Warm Back
34=St:Stringy
35=St:Big Strings
36=St:PWM Strings
37=St:Mourn Strings
38=St:VP Soft
39=St:PWM Simple
40=St:Glassy Rezonant
41=St:Superstrings
42=St:Light Pad
43=St:Noble Pad
44=St:Warm Big
45=St:Sentimental
46=St:Analog Sweep
47=St:Phase Strings AS1
48=St:Octave Strings
49=St:JP Strings
50=St:3Oscillators Vintage
51=St:Silver Strings
52=St:String Machine
53=St:3 Octave Strings
54=St:Trance Introduction
55=St:Mystic Trance
56=St:F.Horn + Strings
57=St:Wood Winds + Strings
58=St:ElectricViolin AF1&2
59=St:Tron Violin
60=St:Tron Strings
61=St:Tape Strings AS2
62=St:Orchestronic
63=St:Vinyltron
64=St:Analog Strings
65=St:Analog Ensemble
66=St:Pizz-o-matic
67=St:Ambient Pizza
68=St:Beauty Harp
69=St:Stereo Harp
70=Br:Trumpet 1 AF1
71=Br:Tp Romantic Legato
72=Br:Classical Trumpet
73=Br:Baby Trumpet AF1
74=Br:Bright Trumpet AF1
75=Br:Tp Soft Jazz Legato
76=Br:Legend Mute AF1
77=Br:Jazzy Flugel AF1
78=Br:Trumpet Section
79=Br:Trombone 1 AF1
80=Br:Blown Bone Legato
81=Br:Bright Trombone AF1
82=Br:New Orleans Trombone
83=Br:French Horn AF1
84=Br:French Horn Solo
85=Br:BassTuba(Bb)
86=Br:Euphonium
87=Br:Bony Section
88=Br:French Horn Section
89=Br:F.Horn + Trombone
90=Br:F.Hrn + Trmbn + Trp
91=Br:Orchestra Brass
92=Br:Movie Horns
93=Br:Symphonic
94=Br:Smooth Brass
95=Br:SoftBrss mp-mf AF1&2
96=Br:Dynamic Brass AF1&2
97=Br:Accent mf-fall AF1&2
98=Br:Small Brass Section
99=Br:Medium Brass Section
100=Br:Lots O' Brass
101=Br:Bright Section
102=Br:Power Section
103=Br:Shiny Brass
104=Br:Big Brass AF1&2
105=Br:Sforzando AF1&2
106=Br:Soft Brass & Sax
107=Br:Big Band
108=Br:Sax Big Band
109=Br:Velo Falls
110=Br:Hybrid Section
111=Br:Hybrid Bright
112=Br:Hybrid Brass Swell
113=Br:T Brass
114=Br:Lo-fi AS1&2
115=Br:Quiet Brass
116=Br:Big Syn
117=Br:Thinth
118=Br:XP Brass Stereo
119=Br:Simple Saw Brass
120=Br:Brassy
121=Br:Kustom
122=Br:After 1984
123=Br:Finale
124=Br:Huge CS80
125=Br:CS-90
126=Br:Ob Soft
127=Br:Ob Horns

[PRE5]
0=Br:Slow PWM Brass
1=Br:Soft 5th Brass
2=SW:Soprano Legato
3=SW:Soprano Soft AF1
4=SW:Alto Vib Legato
5=SW:Alto Legato
6=SW:Alto
7=SW:Tenor Dynamic AF1
8=SW:Tenor Soft Legato
9=SW:Velo Growl Legato
10=SW:Tenor Growl AF1
11=SW:Baritone
12=SW:Hip Bari
13=SW:Tenor Section
14=SW:Sax Octave Section
15=SW:Mixed Sax Section
16=SW:Flute Legato
17=SW:Sweet Flute AF1
18=SW:Wood Flute
19=SW:Oboe 1 AF1
20=SW:Sweet Oboe Legato
21=SW:Oboe Soft Legato
22=SW:Clarinet 1 AF1
23=SW:JazzyClarinet Legato
24=SW:Bassoon 1 AF1
25=SW:Irish Pipe Legato
26=SW:2 Flutes
27=SW:Flute & Clari
28=SW:2 Oboes & Bassoon
29=SW:WoodWind Quartet
30=SW:Gentle Harp
31=SW:Woody Harp
32=SW:Bluz Distort
33=SW:Campfire
34=SW:Tron Flute
35=SW:Flootz
36=Ld:Huge Lead
37=Ld:Bleep Lead AF2
38=Ld:Detuned Vintage
39=Ld:Space Lead
40=Ld:Dual Square Lead
41=Ld:Vintage Sync
42=Ld:Dirty Hook
43=Ld:Nu Mini
44=Ld:ProgressiveRock Lead
45=Ld:Lucky
46=Ld:Opening
47=Ld:Rap Lead 1
48=Ld:Mini Soft
49=Ld:Feeling
50=Ld:Early Lead
51=Ld:Funky Pulse
52=Ld:Mr. Finger
53=Ld:Singleline
54=Ld:Soft RnB
55=Ld:Wind Synth
56=Ld:Broken Sine RBAS1
57=Ld:Duck Lead
58=Ld:In da Night
59=Ld:Mayday MW
60=Ld:On D Line
61=Ld:Early Soloist
62=Ld:Heterodyne
63=Ld:Classic 5th
64=Ld:Vintage Saw
65=Ld:Mini Three
66=Ld:Phat Dino
67=Ld:Dynamic Mini
68=Ld:PWM Lead
69=Ld:Pulse Wound
70=Ld:Think Sync
71=Ld:Punch Lead
72=Ld:Bright Saw
73=Ld:Trojan
74=Ld:Wood Panel
75=Ld:Push Ahead
76=Ld:Eight
77=Ld:Sync Power
78=Ld:Glisten Lead
79=Ld:Big Drone
80=Ld:Screameemy
81=Ld:Flange Filter
82=Ld:Sutra
83=Ld:Free LFO
84=Ld:Rap Lead 2
85=Ld:Space Power Lead
86=Ld:Nyquist
87=Ld:Digimetal
88=Ld:Saw destroy
89=Ld:Vinalog saw
90=Ld:Mady SQU
91=Ld:Low Undulation
92=Ld:Impact
93=Ld:Talk Mod
94=Ld:Digital Gangsta
95=Ld:Plastic Squeeze
96=Ld:Pinz Lead
97=Ld:Dancy Saw Lead
98=Ld:Buzz Around
99=Ld:Xtreme Wheel
100=Ld:Supertrance
101=Ld:Poly Hook
102=Ld:HPF Dance
103=Ld:Tekk Glide
104=Ld:Growl Tekk
105=Ld:Plucked Chordz
106=Ld:Chordz
107=Ld:Cool Body
108=Ld:Twist Sync
109=Ld:TEKIE
110=Ld:Sonix
111=Ld:Big Skid Hook Lead 1
112=Ld:Big Skid Hook Lead 2
113=Ld:Porta Queen
114=Ld:Vicious Dogs
115=Pd:Saw Pad
116=Pd:Dark Modulation Pad
117=Pd:Dark Light
118=Pd:Ambient Synthpad
119=Pd:5th Lite
120=Pd:Smooth BPF Sweep
121=Pd:High Wire
122=Pd:Trance MW
123=Pd:Xtreme Sweep
124=Pd:Nu WarmPad
125=Pd:5th Atmosphere
126=Pd:Dim
127=Pd:Simple Air

[PRE6]
0=Pd:Nature Sine
1=Pd:Analog
2=Pd:Perc Pad
3=Pd:Dark Atmo Pad
4=Pd:Dark Organ Pad
5=Pd:Soft Brassy
6=Pd:Road to Nowhere
7=Pd:Sweep Strings
8=Pd:Brass Motion Pad
9=Pd:Luminous
10=Pd:Mother Ship
11=Pd:Warm Backing Pad
12=Pd:Feather
13=Pd:Pan Sphere
14=Pd:Square
15=Pd:Shaper
16=Pd:Early Digital
17=Pd:Dramana
18=Pd:Dream Shift
19=Pd:Remote Space
20=Pd:Fathoms
21=Pd:SY22 2007
22=Pd:Mother Earth
23=Pd:Landing Pad
24=Pd:The Breath
25=Pd:Humanity
26=Pd:Vowel Pad
27=Pd:Feather Pad
28=Pd:Slow Attack Pad
29=Pd:Hi Brite
30=Pd:Pad & Syn
31=Pd:Cosmic Swell Pad
32=Pd:Sweet Flange
33=Pd:Waterfall
34=Pd:Phase Pad
35=Pd:Pure Synth
36=Pd:Pearls
37=Pd:Flange Wall
38=Pd:Tornado
39=Pd:Ice Rink
40=Pd:Turbulence
41=Pd:Bell Pad
42=Pd:Paradise
43=Pd:Yellow River
44=Pd:Love Me
45=Pd:Frozen Pad
46=Pd:Pensive
47=Pd:Space Vocals
48=Pd:Haah Pad
49=Pd:Oooh Pad
50=Pd:Back in Itopian
51=Pd:Strings & Choir
52=Pd:Angel Eyes
53=Pd:Glass Choir
54=Pd:Nativity
55=Pd:Seraphim
56=Pd:Analog Shine
57=Pd:Cosmic Gate
58=Pd:Catching Wild Horses
59=Pd:High Pass Gate
60=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 1
61=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 2
62=Sc:P5 Resonance Comp
63=Sc:P5 Analog Punch
64=Sc:Cool Trance
65=Sc:>Attack<
66=Sc:Club Finger
67=Sc:Wobbly RB
68=Sc:Ana Dayz
69=Sc:Airy Nylon
70=Sc:Progressive Attack
71=Sc:Oracle
72=Sc:Big Comp
73=Sc:Rezz Punch
74=Sc:Resonant Clavi
75=Sc:Straight RB
76=Sc:Psych Noise
77=Sc:Squiffy Misbehaving
78=Sc:Lektro Codes
79=Sc:Hard FM Keys
80=Sc:W Phaser
81=Sc:DPCM Attack
82=Sc:Talk
83=Sc:Digy_SEQ
84=Sc:Nerve Nasty
85=Sc:Ring_Zplus
86=Sc:Trance Attack
87=Sc:Tekno Attack AF1&2
88=Sc:PWM Percussion
89=Sc:Stabby
90=Sc:Detroit Stab
91=Sc:Corrado
92=Sc:Synthetique
93=Sc:Noiz Rezz
94=Sc:Tuxedo
95=Sc:Queens
96=Sc:Hip Voice
97=Sc:GX1
98=Sc:Night Watch
99=Sc:Pluck Bells
100=Sc:Power Dance Chords
101=Sc:Hyper Trance
102=Sc:Cosmic Psyche
103=Sc:Chillin' Chords
104=Sc:Dirty Chordz
105=Sc:Wild Horses
106=Sc:Sixpack AF1&2
107=Sc:Percussive Chords
108=Sc:Chordmaster
109=Sc:In the Mirror
110=Sc:Come together!
111=Sc:Happy Hour
112=Sc:Recycling
113=Sc:Digital Dreaming
114=Sc:Carpenter's Wife
115=Sc:Electronic Games
116=Sc:Dancing Waves
117=Sc:Hit Factory
118=Sc:Freaky Loop
119=Sc:Mr. Wah!
120=Sc:Chill Comp 1
121=Me:Chill Comp 2
122=Sc:Kalimboidal
123=Sc:Bippus
124=Sc:Virtuoso Sequencia
125=Sc:Fat Saw Arpeggio
126=Sc:Trancious Line
127=Sc:Metal Plate

[PRE7]
0=Sc:Fifth Dancer
1=Sc:Percussive Sequence
2=Sc:Simply Faaat
3=Sc:Bright Dance
4=Sc:Quadro Tune
5=Ld:Champ
6=Se:Men In Yellow
7=Se:Metamorphosis
8=Se:Perplex
9=Se:Outer Planet
10=Se:Industrial
11=Se:Space Walking
12=Se:Scraper
13=Se:SE_02 <Zero Two>
14=Se:Talking Machines
15=Se:Tobi Mage
16=Se:Bitzz MW
17=Se:Thexism
18=Se:In My Head
19=Se:Toda
20=Se:Water Tank
21=Se:Auto Trapeze
22=Se:Harpist's Nightmare
23=Se:Find Newgt!
24=Se:Nile River
25=Se:New Age Atmo
26=Se:Wind Blows
27=Se:Fire!
28=Se:Scratching Machine
29=Se:Goa Psyche
30=Se:Wait For Bad Weather
31=Se:Reverse The Audio
32=Se:Radio Static
33=Se:Modifier X
34=Se:Surveillance
35=Se:Noise FX
36=Se:Sample&Hold Vintage
37=Se:Lazerzz
38=Se:uhohhrr
39=Se:On The Fritz
40=Se:Scratch Thing MW
41=Se:Trash Can Lid Band
42=Se:Piston Engine
43=Se:Waka Waka Noize
44=Se:Argentina
45=Me:Gate of Eden
46=Me:Wave Journey
47=Me:Whispering Ghosts
48=Me:Nighttrain to Munich
49=Me:Morning Dew
50=Me:Calling Mr. Reso
51=Me:2 Switches to Heaven
52=Me:Cell Division
53=Me:Jumping Needle
54=Me:SEKAI-ISAN
55=Me:Setsunai AF2
56=Me:Week End
57=Se:Dragonfly
58=Me:TiRiPAD
59=Me:Cluster
60=Me:Xtreme Rezz
61=Me:Bit Space
62=Me:My Reality
63=Me:Waterproof
64=Me:Magnetics
65=Me:Sand
66=Me:Felicity
67=Me:Vibrancy
68=Me:Metalflake
69=Me:Radio Venus
70=Me:Elec Blue
71=Me:Chyo Ethno
72=Me:Metal Shaper
73=Me:Calculator
74=Me:konjoh BEAM
75=Me:Blizzard
76=Me:SINGING BOWL
77=Me:Vektris
78=Me:Metalvox Pad
79=Me:Refraction
80=Me:Philanger
81=Me:Slippery Ambience
82=Me:Ellipsotron
83=Me:Envelope
84=Me:Whatsis
85=Me:Pearl Collection
86=Me:Four Dimensions
87=Me:Hallucination
88=Me:Arctic Sequence
89=Me:Drifting
90=Me:Electraid
91=Me:Bed Time Story
92=Me:Clearing
93=Me:Long HiPa
94=Me:Quad Swell
95=Me:New Stab
96=Me:Vinyl Hit
97=Me:Hit Me
98=Me:Ambient Bite
99=Me:Green Valley
100=Me:Everlasting Glory
101=Me:Thinking of You
102=Me:Festival of Harmony
103=Me:Paris at Night
104=Me:On my Way to UK
105=Me:Chillin' Ibiza
106=Me:Heavens Door
107=Me:Cocktail
108=Me:Vanilla
109=Me:Ibiza Groove
110=Me:Nylon Chill
111=Me:Xtreme Harp
112=Me:Trancing in the Rain
113=Me:Gated Detune
114=Me:Gated Choir
115=Me:Exotic
116=Me:Syncscraper
117=Me:Ethnotic
118=Me:ComSat
119=Me:Investikator
120=Me:Monkey Bars
121=Me:Chilltrancer
122=Me:Random Beatz
123=Me:Electro Hood
124=Me:My Subwoofers
125=Me:Mister Sinister
126=Me:Polyrhythm
127=Me:Blood Flow

[PRE8]
0=Me:On The Verge
1=Me:Droid
2=Me:Worker Ant
3=Me:Chopp Lingo
4=Me:Vinyl Beatnik
5=Me:Drop Zone ARP
6=Me:Particle
7=Me:Simple Arp
8=Me:Cyber Cycle
9=Me:BollogPuls
10=Me:Octopus
11=Me:Electronic Beatz
12=Me:Dreamin' of You
13=Me:Brothers & Sisters
14=Me:Pizza No.1
15=Me:Electronix
16=Me:TekkNow
17=Me:Hollow Sequence
18=Me:Icicle
19=Me:Jegog
20=Me:Octo Strobe 1
21=Me:Octo Strobe 2
22=Me:Random Waves
23=Me:Semar
24=Me:Trailing Headlights
25=Me:Dream Winds
26=Et:Kemence
27=Et:Kemen Wet
28=Et:Yayli
29=Et:Kawala
30=Et:Santur
31=Et:Baglama
32=Et:Kotoun
33=Et:Kanun
34=Et:Bouzuki
35=Et:Oud Tremolo Vel
36=Et:SazFeeze
37=Et:Where Am I?
38=Et:Sakura
39=Et:Nomad
40=Et:Pluk-o-dy
41=Et:Tambura
42=Et:Sitar MW
43=Et:Tabla Zone
44=Et:Udu
45=Et:Djembe
46=Et:Dhol
47=Et:Khol
48=Et:Ney
49=Et:Zurna
50=Et:Pungi
51=Et:Shehnai 1
52=Et:Didgeridoo
53=Et:Snake Charmer
54=Et:Mythic Flute
55=Et:Ethnology
56=Et:Oztralian
57=Dr:8Z Destruct
58=Dr:8Z Jarrin
59=Dr:8Z Romps
60=Dr:8Z Glitch
61=Dr:8Z Oxidized
62=Dr:8Z D&B Machine
63=Dr:8Z Down Tempo
64=Dr:8Z Early Lo-Fi
65=Dr:8Z Noize Xpress
66=Dr:8Z Trance Basics
67=Dr:8Z Reverse Beatz
68=Dr:8Z Crush Dance
69=Dr:8Z Heavy Hearts
70=Dr:8Z Chilly Breakz
71=Dr:8Z Gated Beatz
72=Dr:8Z Hip Hop Shakers
73=Dr:8Z Blip Hop
74=Dr:8Z Nasty Glitch
75=Dr:8Z Scratch
76=Dr:8Z Tod
77=Dr:8Z Psychedelic 1
78=Dr:8Z Psychedelic 2
79=Dr:8Z Dub Element
80=Gt:Mega Nylon
81=Gt:Mega Steel
82=Gt:Mega 12 Steel
83=Gt:Mega 60s Clean
84=Gt:Mega 60s ChorusCombo
85=Gt:Mega 60s Tremolo
86=Gt:Mega 60s Blues Tone
87=Gt:Mega 60s Phaser
88=Gt:Mega 60s Tube Tone
89=Gt:Mega 60s Dist Stack
90=Gt:Mega 60s Road House
91=Gt:Mega 60s Small Blues
92=Gt:Mega 60s Pedal Wah
93=Gt:Mega 60s VCM T.Wah
94=Gt:Mega 60s T.Wah&Dist
95=Gt:Mega 60s Jet Flanger
96=Gt:Mega 1coil Clean
97=Gt:Mega 1coil Chorus
98=Gt:Mega 1coil Tremolo
99=Gt:Mega 1coil BluesTone
100=Gt:Mega 1coil Phaser
101=Gt:Mega 1coil Tube Tone
102=Gt:Mega 1coil Tube Amp1
103=Gt:Mega 1coil Tube Amp2
104=Gt:Mega 1coil Roadhouse
105=Gt:Mega 1coil VCM T.Wah
106=Gt:Mega 60s Clean Delay
107=Gt:Mega 60s Slap Clean
108=Gt:Mega 60s Slap Dist
109=Gt:Mega 1coil SlapClean
110=Gt:Mega 1coil Slap Dist
111=Gt:Mega1coilSlpPedalWah
112=Gt:Mega Ovdr Distortion
113=Gt:Mega Ovdr Fuzz
114=Bs:Mega Acoustic Bass
115=Bs:Mega Finger+Harmonic
116=Bs:Mega Fretless Bass
117=Bs:Mega Pick Open Amped
118=Bs:Mega Pick Mute Amped
119=Bs:Mega Slap Bass
120=Bs:Mega Finger+Slap
121=Bs:Mega Finger+Pull Amp
122=Bs:Mega Pick Open Mute
123=Bs:Mega Pick OpMt Dark
124=Vc:Vocoder with Delay
125=Vc:Funky Vocoder
126=Vc:Vocoder Pad 1
127=Vc:Vocoder Pad 2

[PRE9]
0=Pn:Natural Grand S6
1=Pn:Piano Rock S6
2=Pn:Woody Piano S6
3=Pn:Intimate S6
4=Kb:Clavi Bril Treble
5=Kb:Clavi Amped
6=Kb:Clavi Phaser
7=Kb:Clavi Touch Wah
8=Kb:Clavi PedalWah MW
9=Kb:Natural Harpsichord
10=Kb:Octave Harpsichord
11=Or:Vx Full Bars
12=Or:Vx Dark Bars
13=Or:Fr All Tabs
14=Or:Fr Bright Boost
15=Or:Fr String Tabs
16=Or:Vx Full Bars Amped
17=Or:Vx Surf Organ
18=Or:Fr Raspy Tabs
19=Or:Master Accordion
20=Or:French Musette
21=Or:Cassotto
22=Or:Tango Accordion 2
23=Cp:Vibraphone
24=Cp:Vibraphone Soft
25=Cp:Tubular Bell 2
26=Cp:Real Timpani AF2 Mfl
27=Gt:1coil Clean AF1&2
28=Gt:1coil Amped Vel
29=Gt:Vintage 1coil Chorus
30=Gt:Surfin' 60s 1coil
31=Gt:Breakback Mountain
32=Gt:Grunged Up
33=Gt:Jazz Clean AF1&2
34=Gt:Arched Top
35=Gt:Jazz Blues
36=Bs:Round Wound Finger
37=Bs:Tube Finger Bass
38=Bs:Slightly Grunged
39=Bs:Prec Pick
40=Bs:Pick Amp
41=Bs:Universal AF1&2
42=Bs:Analog Bullet Bass
43=Bs:Analog Perc Bass
44=Bs:Analog Step Bass
45=Bs:Short Buzz AF1&2
46=Bs:Bass Machine AF1
47=Bs:Deep Ramp AF1&2
48=St:Section Strings 1
49=St:Section Strings 2
50=St:Section Strings 3
51=St:Section Strings 4
52=St:Tremolo Section
53=St:Pizzicato Vel
54=St:Orchestra Harp
55=St:Harp Ambient
56=St:Gleaming Pad AF1&2
57=St:Fat PWM Synth Vel
58=St:Vintage Polystrings
59=Br:Soft Trumpet Legato
60=Br:Trumpet Vibrato
61=Br:Trumpet Shake Vel
62=Br:French Horn Section2
63=Br:Flugelhorn
64=Br:Jazz Brass Section
65=Br:Ob Syncomp
66=Br:Tacky Brass AF1&2
67=SW:Mellow Soprano
68=SW:Alto Accent Legato
69=SW:Tenor Max
70=SW:Soft TenorSax Legato
71=SW:Piccolo Legato
72=Ld:Bizz AF2
73=Ld:The Bitch AF1&2
74=Pd:Mellow Swell AF1&2
75=Pd:Frozen Glasspad
76=Pd:Lunar Eclipse AF1&2
77=Pd:Melting Steel AF1&2
78=Pd:Prayer Call
79=Pd:Bass n' Gate
80=Sc:PWM Stabs
81=Sc:Queen of Pop AF1&2
82=Sc:Multi Bell
83=Sc:Acid 'n Space AF1&2
84=Sc:Middle Ear AF1&2
85=Sc:Badger AF1&2
86=Sc:Voodoo Wah
87=Sc:Jumping Wheel AF1&2
88=Sc:Devils Wah AF1&2
89=Sc:Horizons AF1&2
90=Sc:Hypnotic AF1&2
91=Sc:Airy Buzz AF1&2
92=Sc:TranciousStepz AF1&2
93=Sc:Trilogy AF1&2
94=Sc:PWM Picks AF1&2
95=Sc:VariChord AF1&2
96=Sc:Voxdance AF1&2
97=Se:Spacewave Dancer
98=Me:Berimbau Ookawaton
99=Me:Club Telemetrix
100=Me:Venusian Rhumba
101=Me:Dripping Quarks
102=Me:Undulator
103=Me:Expanse
104=Me:Deep Motion AF1&2
105=Me:Metallic Airstabs
106=Me:Descendant
107=Me:Angel in Love
108=Me:Berlin Dreamz
109=Me:Complexions AF1&2
110=Me:Crazy Groove AF1&2
111=Me:Da Thumperz
112=Me:Meister Chilla
113=Me:X-Generator AF1&2
114=Me:GlaringMessage AF1&2
115=Et:Sitar 2
116=Et:India Harmonium
117=Et:Berimbau
118=Et:Banjo 2
119=Dr:Nu Orc Percussion
120=Dr:8Z Cajon
121=Dr:8Z Djembe
122=Dr:8Z Static
123=Dr:8Z RX11
124=Dr:8Z Trance Basics 2
125=Dr:8Z Tom Heartz
126=Gt:Mega 1coil Old R&R
127=Gt:Mega Jazz Guitar

[GM]
0=Pn:Concert Grand Piano
1=Pn:Rock Brite Piano
2=Pn:CP 2007
3=Pn:Honkytonk
4=Kb:E.Piano 1
5=Kb:E.Piano 2
6=Kb:Harpsichord
7=Kb:Brite Clavi
8=Cp:Celesta
9=Cp:Glocken
10=Cp:Music Box
11=Cp:Vibes
12=Cp:Marimba
13=Cp:Xylophone
14=Cp:Tubular Bell
15=Cp:Dulcimer
16=Or:Draw Organ
17=Or:Percussive Organ
18=Or:Rock Organ
19=Or:Church Organ
20=Or:Reed Organ
21=Or:Accordion
22=SW:Harmonica
23=Or:Tango Accordion
24=Gt:Nylon Guitar
25=Gt:Steel Guitar
26=Gt:Jazz Guitar
27=Gt:Clean Guitar
28=Gt:Mute Guitar
29=Gt:Overdrive Guitar
30=Gt:Distortion Guitar
31=Gt:Guitar Harmonics
32=Bs:Acoustic Bass
33=Bs:Finger Bass
34=Bs:Pick Bass
35=Bs:Fretless Bass
36=Bs:Slap Bass 1
37=Bs:Slap Bass 2 vel
38=Bs:Synth Bass 1
39=Bs:Synth Bass 2
40=St:Violin
41=St:Viola
42=St:Cello
43=St:Contrabass
44=St:Tremolo Strings 2
45=St:Pizzicato
46=St:Harp
47=Cp:Timpani + Cymbal
48=St:Strings Section 1
49=St:Strings Section 2
50=St:Synth Strings 1
51=St:Synth Strings 2
52=Pd:Aah Choir
53=Pd:Ooh Choir
54=Pd:Syn Voice
55=Me:Orchestra Hit
56=Br:Trumpet 2
57=Br:Trombone 2
58=Br:Tuba
59=Br:Mute Trumpet
60=Br:French Horns
61=Br:Brass Section
62=Br:Synth Brass 1
63=Br:Synth Brass 2
64=SW:Soprano Sax
65=SW:Alto Sax
66=SW:Tenor Sax
67=SW:Baritone Sax
68=SW:Oboe 2
69=SW:English Horn
70=SW:Bassoon 2
71=SW:Clarinet 2
72=SW:Piccolo
73=SW:Flute
74=SW:Recorder
75=SW:Panflute
76=SW:Bottle
77=SW:Shakuhachi
78=SW:Whistle
79=SW:Ocarina
80=Ld:Square Lead
81=Ld:Saw Lead
82=Ld:Calliope Lead
83=Ld:Chiff Lead
84=Ld:Charan Lead
85=Ld:Voice Lead
86=Ld:Fifth Lead
87=Ld:Bass & Lead
88=Pd:New Age Pad
89=Pd:Warm Pad
90=Pd:Poly Synth Pad
91=Pd:Choir Pad
92=Pd:Bowed Pad
93=Pd:Metal Pad
94=Pd:Halo Pad
95=Pd:Sweep Pad
96=Me:Rain Pad
97=Pd:Sound Track
98=Cp:Crystal
99=Pd:Atmosphere
100=Sc:Brightness
101=Me:Goblin
102=Me:Echoes
103=Pd:Sci-Fi
104=Et:Sitar
105=Et:Banjo
106=Et:Shamisen
107=Et:Koto
108=Cp:Kalimba
109=SW:Bagpipe
110=Et:Fiddle
111=SW:Shehnai 2
112=Cp:Tinkle Bell
113=Dr:Agogo
114=Cp:Steel Drum
115=Dr:Woodblock
116=Dr:Taiko Drum
117=Dr:Melodic Tom
118=Dr:Synth Drum
119=Se:Reverse Cymbal
120=Se:Fret Noise
121=Se:Breath Noiz
122=Se:Seashore
123=Se:Tweet
124=Se:Telephone
125=Se:Helicopter
126=Se:Applause
127=Se:Gunshot

[USER1]
0=Me:Everlasting Glory
1=Dr:8Z D&B Machine
2=Ld:Chordz
3=Me:Jegog
4=Ld:Sutra
5=Sc:Simply Faaat
6=Sc:Fifth Dancer
7=Ld:Rap Lead 1
8=Dr:8Z Hip Hop Shakers
9=Me:Monkey Bars
10=Sc:Dirty Chordz
11=Ld:In da Night
12=Ld:Sonix
13=Bs:Wide Synth Bass
14=Pd:5th Atmosphere
15=Sc:Happy Hour
16=Me:Felicity
17=Dr:8Z Chilly Breakz
18=Me:Ethnotic
19=Me:Nylon Chill
20=St:Trance Introduction
21=Ld:Acid Fun AS1
22=Bs:Punchy Drone
23=Se:Outer Planet
24=Dr:8Z Heavy Hearts
25=Me:TiRiPAD
26=Sc:Freaky Loop
27=Ld:Pinz Lead
28=Ld:Dirty Hook
29=Pd:Analog
30=Me:BollogPuls
31=Me:Brothers & Sisters
32=Me:Festival of Harmony
33=Dr:8Z Blip Hop
34=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 2
35=Bs:Fight Bass
36=St:Big Strings
37=Sc:Recycling
38=Me:Ambient Bite
39=Me:Chill Comp 2
40=Dr:8Z Jarrin
41=Me:Trailing Headlights
42=Pd:Tornado
43=Ld:Plucked Chordz
44=Ld:Low Undulation
45=Me:Calculator
46=Se:Perplex
47=Me:Chilltrancer
48=Me:Hallucination
49=Dr:8Z Down Tempo
50=Pd:Ice Rink
51=Bs:Moon Bass
52=St:Silver Strings
53=Sc:Tekno Attack AF1&2
54=Sc:Trancious Line
55=Bs:Noise Bass
56=Dr:8Z Oxidized
57=Me:Trancing in the Rain
58=Me:Blizzard
59=Sc:Mr. Wah!
60=Ld:Opening
61=Sc:Virtuoso Sequencia
62=Cp:Ice Bells
63=Pd:Dim
64=Me:Heavens Door
65=Dr:8Z Dub Element
66=Cp:Nibelungen
67=Bs:Phat Step AS1&2
68=Bs:Compu Bass
69=Me:Chillin' Ibiza
70=Sc:Wobbly AS2
71=Ld:Tekk Glide
72=Dr:8Z Tod
73=Me:Vibrancy
74=Pd:Brass Motion Pad
75=Sc:Fat Saw Arpeggio
76=Ld:Pulse Wound
77=Sc:Progressive Attack
78=Sc:W Phaser
79=Ld:Xtreme Wheel
80=Me:Ibiza Groove
81=Dr:8Z Crush Dance
82=Me:Syncscraper
83=Bs:Byon Bass
84=Pd:Pensive
85=Me:Cocktail
86=Me:Drop Zone ARP
87=Me:Random Beatz
88=Dr:8Z Reverse Beatz
89=Me:TekkNow
90=Pd:Trance MW
91=Bs:Oxide
92=Ld:PWM Lead
93=Me:Thinking of You
94=Pd:Dark Atmo Pad
95=Pd:Feather
96=Me:Investikator
97=Dr:8Z Destruct
98=Sc:Lektro Codes
99=Bs:Kick Bass Legato
100=Pd:Perc Pad
101=Sc:Club Finger
102=Sc:Ring_Zplus
103=Pd:Saw Pad
104=Dr:8Z Nasty Glitch
105=Me:Slippery Ambience
106=Me:Morning Dew
107=Bs:Fat Sine Resonance
108=Bs:Pulse Step AF1
109=Pd:Oooh Pad
110=Ld:TEKIE
111=Ld:Sync Power
112=Me:Whatsis
113=Me:Cell Division
114=Me:Semar
115=Ld:Buzz Around
116=Me:Elec Blue
117=Me:Sand
118=Me:Pearl Collection
119=Me:Electro Hood
120=Dr:8Z Glitch
121=Se:Lazerzz
122=Se:On The Fritz
123=Se:Piston Engine
124=Se:Talking Machines
125=Me:Bed Time Story
126=Me:Octopus
127=Se:In My Head

[USER2]
0=Pn:Rock Grand Piano
1=Or:FullDraw/CVibrato
2=Gt:Steel String AF1&2
3=Gt:Dual Coil 80s Clean
4=Bs:Finger PBs AF1
5=Kb:Marimba DX
6=Kb:R&B Soft
7=Gt:2 Electrics AF1&2
8=Pn:Old Blues
9=Or:Alternator
10=St:Medium Large Section
11=Br:Big Syn
12=SW:Tenor Dynamic AF1
13=Bs:Active P
14=Gt:Crunchy Guitar
15=Pd:Angel Eyes
16=Pn:CP 1979
17=Or:Crunchy AS2
18=Gt:Two Acoustics
19=Gt:Dynamic Amp AS1
20=Bs:Passive BB AF1&2
21=Kb:Chorus Hard
22=Kb:Vinyl EP AS1
23=Gt:Clean El & Ac 3
24=Kb:AhrAmI
25=Or:Early Bird
26=St:Spicato Large
27=Br:Ob Soft
28=SW:Woody Harp
29=Bs:Active TRB
30=Gt:Dual Coil '65
31=Pd:Back in Itopian
32=Kb:Touch Clavi
33=Or:Rocky AS2
34=Gt:Hip-Hop Steel Guitar
35=SW:Tron Flute
36=Bs:boooooooooom
37=Kb:Hipsichord
38=Kb:Vintage Case
39=Gt:Cool Drive AS1
40=Kb:Natural Wurli
41=Or:Vinyl Organ
42=St:Tape Strings AS2
43=Br:Velo Falls
44=Ld:Soft RnB
45=Bs:Army Bass
46=Gt:Dual Coil Semi Clean
47=Pd:Glass Choir
48=Kb:Hollow Clavi
49=Or:A Few Wheels
50=Gt:Mute & Slide Vel
51=Ld:Vintage Sync
52=Bs:Boom Bass AF1
53=Kb:Soft Case
54=Kb:Vintage'74
55=Gt:Crunched Up 376
56=Kb:Phaze Wurli
57=Or:Draw Control
58=St:String Machine
59=Br:Hybrid Brass Swell
60=Cp:Pop Bells & Pad MW
61=Bs:Big Bass
62=Gt:Dual Coil Slide Vel
63=Pd:Sweep Strings
64=Kb:Super Clavi
65=Or:Clean Noise
66=Gt:Killer Whammy
67=Ld:Vinalog saw
68=Bs:Fat Sine
69=Kb:Hard Vintage
70=Gt:Pedal Steel
71=Gt:Paddy Clean
72=Pn:Piano Back
73=Or:1967 Keys
74=Ld:Mady SQU
75=Sc:Carpenter's Wife
76=Gt:Voodooman
77=Bs:Dark Bass
78=Gt:Hard Drive AS1&2
79=Gt:59 Combo AF1&2
80=Kb:Vintage Clavi
81=Gt:Baby AF1
82=Gt:Light Blues AF1&2
83=Gt:DualCoil80sCleanMute
84=Bs:Fundamental
85=Ld:Poly Hook
86=Gt:Touch Wah AF1
87=Gt:Single Coil Chorus
88=Bs:5th Fuzz Bass
89=Or:Soulemn
90=Bs:PBassFingerDist AF1
91=Sc:P5 Analog Punch
92=Bs:Pick Mute
93=Bs:Dist Tama Bass
94=Gt:Hard Ramp AS1&2
95=Gt:No.1 GTR AS1&2
96=Me:Simple Arp
97=Bs:Velo Growl
98=Gt:Mid Drive (2handGtr)
99=Bs:Boogie A LegatoAF1
100=Bs:West Coast
101=Ld:Digital Gangsta
102=Bs:Growler
103=Gt:Spanky
104=Me:Electraid
105=Or:Swishie
106=St:Quick Bows
107=Sc:P5 Resonance Comp
108=Bs:Kompressor
109=Bs:Fretless Solo
110=Gt:HardRocker(2handGtr)
111=Bs:Lo Boy AF1&2 AS1&2
112=Me:Particle
113=Me:Electronic Beatz
114=Gt:Middy Tremolo
115=Me:Droid
116=Me:New Stab
117=Ld:Funky Pulse
118=Bs:Oh Bee Bass
119=Gt:Tex Boogie
120=Bs:Phat Three
121=Bs:Vintage JB AF1&2
122=Bs:Prec Flat Wound
123=Ld:Nyquist
124=Bs:Puncher AS1
125=Bs:Hybrid Bass 1
126=Gt:Hit It Hard AS2
127=Bs:Simple Bass AS2

[USER3]
0=St:Large Section
1=SW:Flute Legato
2=SW:Oboe 1 AF1
3=SW:Clarinet 1 AF1
4=SW:Bassoon 1 AF1
5=Br:Classical Trumpet
6=Br:French Horn Section
7=Br:Orchestra Brass
8=St:Pizzicato
9=Cp:Timpani/Bell/Glocken
10=St:F.Horn + Strings
11=St:Wood Winds + Strings
12=Pn:Full Concert Grand
13=Kb:Hipsichord
14=St:Stereo Harp
15=Or:Church Organ
16=St:Medium Section
17=SW:2 Flutes
18=SW:Oboe Soft Legato
19=SW:Flute & Clari
20=SW:2 Oboes & Bassoon
21=St:Strings Section 1
22=Br:Sforzando AF1&2
23=Br:Big Band
24=St:Warm Back
25=Cp:Timpani + Cymbal
26=Cp:Orc Percussion
27=St:Violin Solo 2 AF1
28=St:Cello Duo AF1
29=St:Viola Solo 2 AF1
30=St:Contrabass Solo2 AF1
31=Cp:Celesta
32=St:Small Section
33=SW:Wood Flute
34=SW:Sweet Oboe Legato
35=SW:Piccolo
36=SW:English Horn
37=SW:Irish Pipe Legato
38=Br:Movie Horns
39=Br:Dynamic Brass AF1&2
40=St:Medium Hall
41=St:Warm Big
42=Or:Fluty
43=St:Octave Ensemble
44=St:Orchestronic
45=Gt:Classical AF1&2
46=Cp:Nice Bell
47=Cp:Xylophone
48=St:Ambient Pizza
49=SW:Sweet Flute AF1
50=Et:Ney
51=Et:Yayli
52=Et:Kawala
53=Et:Baglama
54=Et:Santur
55=Et:Kotoun
56=Et:Kemen Wet
57=Et:Nomad
58=Et:Sakura
59=St:3 Octave Strings
60=Pd:Nativity
61=Et:Sitar MW
62=Et:Koto
63=Cp:Glocken
64=Me:Cyber Cycle
65=Me:Dream Winds
66=Me:Dreamin' of You
67=Me:Gate of Eden
68=Me:Green Valley
69=Me:Paris at Night
70=Me:Xtreme Rezz
71=Me:Whispering Ghosts
72=Me:Worker Ant
73=Me:Wave Journey
74=Ld:Wind Synth
75=Pd:Dream Shift
76=Sc:In the Mirror
77=Pd:5th Lite
78=Ld:Glisten Lead
79=Cp:Tubular Bell
80=Ld:Feeling
81=Pd:Feather Pad
82=Pd:Rhythmic Filterpad 1
83=Pd:High Wire
84=Pd:Cosmic Gate
85=Pd:Seraphim
86=Pd:Space Vocals
87=Pd:The Breath
88=Et:Where Am I?
89=Cp:Music Box
90=Et:Tabla Zone
91=Et:Udu
92=Et:Djembe
93=Et:Dhol
94=Et:Khol
95=Cp:Marimba
96=Or:Tiny Combo Bars 1
97=SW:Tenor Growl AF1
98=Br:Baby Trumpet AF1
99=Ld:Early Soloist
100=Kb:Crunchy Comp
101=Or:Walking Bass
102=Gt:Fat Oil Jazz AF1&2
103=Bs:Acoustic Bass
104=Kb:Dyno Straight MW+AS2
105=Gt:Jazzy Pick
106=Or:First 3 w/Perc
107=Bs:Pick Open
108=Or:Left Manual
109=Or:Jazz 2nd Perc + C3
110=Gt:Barcelona
111=Cp:Vibes
112=Or:Harmonic Hole
113=Gt:Nylon Slide Vel
114=Bs:Bass Pedal
115=Or:Progressy
116=Gt:Sao Paulo
117=Bs:GrooveAcoustic AF1&2
118=Or:Slow Jam
119=Gt:Dual Coil Rotary
120=Or:Jazzy 2
121=Gt:Jazz Guitar
122=Br:Tp Soft Jazz Legato
123=Br:Legend Mute AF1
124=Br:Jazzy Flugel AF1
125=SW:Baritone
126=SW:Tenor Section
127=Bs:RnBass

[DR:PRE]
0=Dr:Power Standard Kit 1
1=Dr:Power Standard Kit 2
2=Dr:Hyper Standard Kit
3=Dr:Dry Standard Kit
4=Dr:Modern Rock Kit
5=Dr:Rock Stereo Kit 1
6=Dr:Rock Stereo Kit 2
7=Dr:Nu Hip Hop Kit 1
8=Dr:Nu Hip Hop Kit 2
9=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 1
10=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 2
11=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 3
12=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 4
13=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 1
14=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 2
15=Dr:R&B Kit 1
16=Dr:R&B Kit 2
17=Dr:R&B Kit 3
18=Dr:Trance Kit
19=Dr:Psychedelic Kit
20=Dr:Chill Out Kit
21=Dr:Brush Kit
22=Dr:Jazz Kit
23=Dr:Pop Latin Kit
24=Dr:Analog T9 Kit
25=Dr:Analog T8 Kit
26=Dr:Tekno Kit
27=Dr:House Kit 1
28=Dr:House Kit 2
29=Dr:House Compressed Kit
30=Dr:Big Kit
31=Dr:Break Kit
32=Dr:Drum'n'Bass Kit
33=Dr:Acid Kit
34=Dr:Jungle Kit
35=Dr:Electric Kit
36=Dr:Human Kit
37=Dr:Hard Kit
38=Dr:Distorted Kit
39=Dr:Ambient Kit
40=Dr:Garage Kit
41=Dr:Synth Pop Kit
42=Dr:Orchestra Kit
43=Dr:Drum Machines Kit
44=Dr:Rock Multiple Kits
45=Dr:HipHop Multiple Kits
46=Dr:Percussion Kit
47=Dr:Latin Percussion Kit
48=Dr:Guitar/Bass FX Kit
49=Dr:Wacko Kit
50=Dr:Wood Bits Kit
51=Dr:Metal Bits Kit
52=Dr:Hands Kit
53=Dr:Scratches
54=Dr:Accoustic Snares
55=Dr:GroupedStereo Snares
56=Dr:All Kicks
57=Dr:Dance Kicks
58=Dr:Arabic Mixed Kit
59=Dr:Belly Dance Kit
60=Dr:Dance Snares
61=Dr:Special SFXs
62=Dr:Synthetic Kit
63=Dr:SFX Kit
64=Dr:Maple Custom Kit
65=Dr:Oak Custom Kit
66=Dr:Nu Jazzy Kit
67=Dr:Illest Hip Hop Kit
68=Dr:PercussionMaster Kit
69=Dr:Nu Orchestra Kit
70=Dr:Japan Kit
71=Dr:Turkish Kit

[DR:GM]
0=Dr:Stereo GM Kit

[DR:USR]
0=Dr:Maple Custom Kit
1=Dr:Oak Custom Kit
2=Dr:Nu Jazzy Kit
3=Dr:Illest Hip Hop Kit
4=Dr:PercussionMaster Kit
5=Dr:Nu Orchestra Kit
6=Dr:Japan Kit
7=Dr:Turkish Kit
8=Dr:Nu Hip Hop Kit 2
9=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 1
10=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 2
11=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 3
12=Dr:Hip Hop Kit 4
13=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 1
14=Dr:Hip Stick Kit 2
15=Dr:R&B Kit 1
16=Dr:R&B Kit 2
17=Dr:R&B Kit 3
18=Dr:Trance Kit
19=Dr:Psychedelic Kit
20=Dr:Chill Out Kit
21=Dr:Brush Kit
22=Dr:Jazz Kit
23=Dr:Pop Latin Kit
24=Dr:Analog T9 Kit
25=Dr:Analog T8 Kit
26=Dr:Tekno Kit
27=Dr:House Kit 1
28=Dr:House Kit 2
29=Dr:House Compressed Kit
30=Dr:House Kit Demo
31=Dr:Wacko Kit Demo

; -----------------------------------------------------------
.Instrument Definitions

[MOXF]
Patch[8064]=PRE1
Patch[8065]=PRE2
Patch[8066]=PRE3
Patch[8067]=PRE4
Patch[8068]=PRE5
Patch[8069]=PRE6
Patch[8070]=PRE7
Patch[8071]=PRE8
Patch[8072]=PRE9
Patch[0]=GM
Patch[8073]=USER1
Patch[8074]=USER2
Patch[8075]=USER3
Patch[8096]=DR:PRE
Patch[16256]=DR:GM
Patch[8104]=DR:USR
Patch[*]=1..128

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#2898884 - 01/01/18 04:56 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: Nils_O]
franky46 Offline
Member

Registered: 09/19/15
Posts: 16
@Nils

thank you very much.
Hmmm, here are some PC#s for the Atelier section.
we can group them into msb-lsb banks , but the banks will not correspond to an instrument category.
With all the Atelier PC# definitions, we get a total of 17 different msb-lsb pairs aka banks.

is this correct? could you live with those 'wild banks' ?


======================================
# midi pc ATELIER:
# PC# MSB LSB

Full Organ1 00h 00h 00h
Full Organ2 02h 00h 00h
Full Organ3 04h 00h 00h
Full Organ4 01h 00h 00h
Full Organ5 03h 00h 00h
Full Organ6 05h 00h 00h
Full Organ7 20h 00h 00h
Full Organ8 20h 01h 00h
Full Organ9 20h 02h 00h
...
Piano2 4Fh 00h 00h

======================================
# .ins-file:

.Patch Names
[Bank 1]
0=Full Organ1
2=Full Organ2
4=Full Organ3
1=Full Organ4
3=Full Organ5
5=Full Organ6
32=Full Organ7
79=Piano2
...
[Bank 2]
32=Full Organ8
...
[Bank 3]
32=Full Organ9

.Instrument Definitions
[Roland VR-AT]
Patch[0]=Bank 1
Patch[1]=Bank 2
Patch[2]=Bank 3





Edited by franky46 (01/01/18 04:57 AM)

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#2898940 - 01/01/18 11:44 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
xKnuckles Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 07/24/13
Posts: 1598
Loc: United Kingdom
My goodness.....the forum is still working after that marathon post! shocked
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"Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" wink Bluzeyone

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#2898964 - 01/01/18 02:52 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
Nils_O Offline
Member

Registered: 04/14/15
Posts: 7
Originally Posted By: franky46
@Nils

thank you very much.
Hmmm, here are some PC#s for the Atelier section.
we can group them into msb-lsb banks , but the banks will not correspond to an instrument category.
With all the Atelier PC# definitions, we get a total of 17 different msb-lsb pairs aka banks.

is this correct? could you live with those 'wild banks' ?


======================================
# midi pc ATELIER:
# PC# MSB LSB

Full Organ1 00h 00h 00h
Full Organ2 02h 00h 00h
Full Organ3 04h 00h 00h
Full Organ4 01h 00h 00h
Full Organ5 03h 00h 00h
Full Organ6 05h 00h 00h
Full Organ7 20h 00h 00h
Full Organ8 20h 01h 00h
Full Organ9 20h 02h 00h
...
Piano2 4Fh 00h 00h

======================================
# .ins-file:

.Patch Names
[Bank 1]
0=Full Organ1
2=Full Organ2
4=Full Organ3
1=Full Organ4
3=Full Organ5
5=Full Organ6
32=Full Organ7
79=Piano2
...
[Bank 2]
32=Full Organ8
...
[Bank 3]
32=Full Organ9

.Instrument Definitions
[Roland VR-AT]
Patch[0]=Bank 1
Patch[1]=Bank 2
Patch[2]=Bank 3






Yes, I think so. It would of course be better with grouping of sound type but frankly I can't even see how that could be done.

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#2899116 - 01/02/18 09:44 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: Nils_O]
franky46 Offline
Member

Registered: 09/19/15
Posts: 16
Originally Posted By: Nils_O

Yes, I think so. It would of course be better with grouping of sound type but frankly I can't even see how that could be done.



Hi Nils,
something interesting: these is the instr. def. list for the Roland BK09, the banks do not rely to an instrument category either. Same with BK07. It's not nice but it seems to be usual smile
Maybe there is a way to group sounds within the vArranger ...?

The list for the VR will come the next days. When will you get your VR09?


---

(last 2 digits is msb & lsb)
[BK-9 Bank 5 ]
5 º Crystal EP 0 5
8 º BPF-Clavi Ph 0 5
99 º Music-Bells 0 5
20 º 8+4+2 Princ 0 5
23 º BluesHrp V/S 0 5
27 º JGuitar Scat 0 5
etc...



Edited by franky46 (01/02/18 09:45 AM)

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#2900602 - 01/08/18 01:06 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
franky46 Offline
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@ Nils
the Atelier ins-File: rrr.de/~franky/upload/RolandVR-Atelier.zip
Could you please give feedback ?

@ all:
Pre-annoucment: feature update V-Combo Editor (should be available the next days):
- added: selector for VR-Keyboard sounds. Nice side effect: extra VR730-voices can be accessed on a VR09 smile
- added: Sythesizer control for the GM2-Sounds (A/D/R, cutoff, resonance)
- added: "brigthness" controls for piano (general brightness and extra brightness when pressing virtual sustain-pedal)
and eventually the most usefull:
- added: basic registration for GM2-Sounds and Sound-Explorer: sounds 'discovered' with the direct bank
selectors (msb/lsb/pc#) can now be saved to (and loaded from) registrations using a custom name.
All Registrations are saved to a file and are available at next startup
Actual number of registrations is 32banks x 8patches = 256 pathches (but could be increased to 128x128 patches on demand)
- and it's free (vive l'internet libre!)


NB: the task "rearranging the VR-Keyboard registrations" is not forgotten, I think technically it's possible using the upg-files

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#2900648 - 01/08/18 02:46 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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"NB: the task "rearranging the VR-Keyboard registrations" is not forgotten, I think technically it's possible using the upg-files"

Yes, I have done that with VR09-tools. The file format is just a header followed by a bunch of registrations. Warning, the UPG file format changed in firmware 1.11.
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#2900734 - 01/08/18 09:34 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Originally Posted By: franky46

@ Nils
the Atelier ins-File: rrr.de/~franky/upload/RolandVR-Atelier.zip
Could you please give feedback ?

@ all:
Pre-annoucment: feature update V-Combo Editor (should be available the next days):
- added: selector for VR-Keyboard sounds. Nice side effect: extra VR730-voices can be accessed on a VR09 smile
- added: Sythesizer control for the GM2-Sounds (A/D/R, cutoff, resonance)
- added: "brigthness" controls for piano (general brightness and extra brightness when pressing virtual sustain-pedal)
and eventually the most usefull:
- added: basic registration for GM2-Sounds and Sound-Explorer: sounds 'discovered' with the direct bank
selectors (msb/lsb/pc#) can now be saved to (and loaded from) registrations using a custom name.
All Registrations are saved to a file and are available at next startup
Actual number of registrations is 32banks x 8patches = 256 pathches (but could be increased to 128x128 patches on demand)
- and it's free (vive l'internet libre!)


NB: the task "rearranging the VR-Keyboard registrations" is not forgotten, I think technically it's possible using the upg-files



Hi!

Great Thanks I had a look. I first opened with notepad and everything was in a long row. Then opened in wordpad and it was readable.

How was the number determined for
0=Drm:STANDARD etc...
I was looking in midi implementation (both Atlier and VR-09) and there is says
LSB 120 (CC32) MSB 0 (CC0).
It also says 1 should med added to the numbers.
1=Drm:STANDARD
9=Drm:ROOM
etc...
So what is correct?
Then
0=Prc:PERC SET 1
etc...
I only find it in the Aterlier implementation and its the correct number but I don't understand how it is not in conflict
0=Org:Full Organ1 from the beginning?
I haven't really hade the time to check much more yet. I noticed that it's the same voice numbers as (you could have expected) in Atliers so I guess the file should be usable for the Ateliers Organs to.


My plan was a complete .ins file to be able to select all sounds both VR-09 and Ateliers. And then there a a couple of effect settings that should preferable be added. I see there a effect control in the CTRLR script.
But it seems to be a lot of work to get it complete. And how effect control is added in the file I don't know. I have to read up more on how these files are done.
How did you extract the vocide numbers and names?
In the Atlier midi implementation I'm unfortunately not able to mark and copy so to add something from that manaul the only option seems to be to write it oneself.

I haven't got the VR-09 yet. I was thinking between the VR-730 but I think it's not worth the added cost.
I have however bought the VArranger. I have just made a small test yet with a sound module I have. It has actually been laying arround for a while due to to much work. I will mess arround with it a bit.
I think a complete file for VR series should be a really great thing. Actally I don't know if a GM2 set is needed in the .ins file for VArranger. The number should be standard I guess. Have to check it.

Thanks

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#2901227 - 01/10/18 04:08 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: Nils_O]
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Originally Posted By: Nils_O

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Hi Nils, thank you very much for giving feedback !I hop this will answer your questions:

> I first opened with notepad and everything was in a long row. Then opened in wordpad and it was readable

I'll change this (this is due to the use of unix tools)

> It also says 1 should med added to the numbers.

subtile difference between program change address (PC) and program change number (PC#), example Pop Kit 4:

PC# MSB LSB
4(03h) 1(01h) 0(00h)

when you compare the digital and the hex number (h like hex) of the PC# value, you see that "digital" = "hex + 1" <=> 4 = 03h+1.
The digital number represents the program change _number_, a kind of 'index' or id.
The hex number represents the program change _address_, e.g. the real midi address.
E.g. program change number (or short 'program change') "6" has the address "5" etc.
Program change numbers go from 1 to 128
Program change addresses go from 0 to 127
As I learned from your example, .ins file is using the range 0..127 thus the _address_ (which equals the number minus 1)
The values in the Atelier.ins file should be correct.

> 0=Drm:STANDARD etc... [...] and there is says LSB 120 (CC32) MSB 0 (CC0).

Atelier organs have 3 'midi interfaces':
The instrument-dependent Atelier (AT) sounds and the machine-independent standards General-Midi-2 (GM2) and GS (Roland standard):
Example : "STANDARD-2" drum kit : pay attention on the order of the LSB/MSB/PC/PC# numbers:

1. AT: PC MSB LSB = 00h 00h 40h
2. GM2: MSB LSB PC# = 0 120 1
3. GS: MSB LSB PC# = 0 64 1

with 40H = 64 and PC#=1 == PC=0 you see that AT is the same as GS.

When you wrote "LSB 120 (CC32) MSB 0 (CC0)" then its a typo for sure, it should mean "MSB 120 (CC0) LSB 0 (CC32)" and this is the GM2-interface.
In our case, the .ins file addresses the machine dependent "AT" sounds.


> but I don't understand how it is not in conflict
> 0=Org:Full Organ1 from the beginning?

Wow, I was not aware of this, this is a big issue as the V-Combo Editor uses the same midi values.

I tested the V-Editor 'ATELIER' section drums and indeed, the selection of any drumit loads an instrument sound (organ, strings...)

It seems that Atelier Organs use a special addressing of their drum kit generators.
I'll try to find out the trick (though the Atelier world seems hermetically closed for outsiders...)


> In the Atlier midi implementation I'm unfortunately not able to mark and copy
oh yeah smile use a pdf-Reader like Sumatra PDF (fast and extremly lightweight) or Foxit

I copy-paste the sound midi tables to a text file and use unix (shell) scripts to process the file
If you need mass processing of data, just ask me.

> I haven't got the VR-09 yet. I was thinking between the VR-730 but I think it's not worth the added cost.

It's all about the keybed. If it's the same bed as in the VR700/730 Roland this can be a game changer.
If you go for the VR09 you can save money by getting an end of stock VR09 without 'b' and do the firmware upgrade.

> I think a complete file for VR series should be a really great thing.

don't worry, we'll get this thing working smile

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#2901234 - 01/10/18 04:25 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: WesG]
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Originally Posted By: WesG
Warning, the UPG file format changed in firmware 1.11.


thanks a lot for pointing this out, Wes!
found an additional 20 byte array (expr. pedal?) in the header of each registration patch.
obviously there is byte giving the header length (80 for the old, 100 since v.1.11/13), so we can make this compatible smile

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#2901280 - 01/10/18 08:14 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: Nils_O]
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Originally Posted By: Nils_O


I only find it in the Aterlier implementation and its the correct number but I don't understand how it is not in conflict
0=Org:Full Organ1 from the beginning?


found the thinking error, sorry, totally ignored the VR-drum section. Yet another thing to implement smile

to explain: if you send progam changes (sound patterns) to the VR for the VR-inherent sounds, you use SysEx messages (different from addressing GM2-sounds using dedicated midi channels).
That's what the panel does and also VArranger has to do.

To load the sound to a dedicated 'voice' (upper manual, lower manual, dual etc) a special SysEx prefix is used:

F0 41 10 62 12 01 01 ..... Upper Manual "VCE-voice"
F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 ..... Upper Manual "SYN-voice"
etc

and there is one particular voice only for drums:
F0 41 10 62 12 01 41 01 ......

this solves the problem of redundancy / conflicts:

here's a new file for you where 'Drums' is an 'instrument' by itself : http://rrr.de/~franky/upload/RolandVR09Atelier.zip

Frank





Edited by franky46 (01/10/18 08:16 PM)

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#2901405 - 01/11/18 09:44 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Question re the editor app. I see the app essentially gives you access to the SN synth. Could someone use it to create a 3 part synth sound (3 partials) then save the sound to the VR to be used without the iPad?
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#2901693 - 01/12/18 04:14 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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V-Combo Editor v1.12(3) : http://ctrlr.org/roland-vr09-vr730-v-combo-editor/

Originally Posted By: franky46

Pre-annoucment: feature update V-Combo Editor (should be available the next days):
- added: selector for VR-Keyboard sounds. Nice side effect: extra VR730-voices can be accessed on a VR09 smile
- added: Sythesizer control for the GM2-Sounds (A/D/R, cutoff, resonance)
- added: "brigthness" controls for piano (general brightness and extra brightness when pressing virtual sustain-pedal)
and eventually the most usefull:
- added: basic registration for GM2-Sounds and Sound-Explorer: sounds 'discovered' with the direct bank
selectors (msb/lsb/pc#) can now be saved to (and loaded from) registrations using a custom name.
All Registrations are saved to a file and are available at next startup
Actual number of registrations is 32banks x 8patches = 256 pathches (but could be increased to 128x128 patches on demand)

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#2901729 - 01/12/18 07:59 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Hey all. I am new to the ctrlr stuff.

I downloaded the .dmg to my Macbook Pro, and then downloaded frank46 excellent editor.

It works great on my Mac! So much easier than using my iPad with CCK.

Here's a screenshot:

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#2901836 - 01/13/18 11:43 AM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Hey all. I am new to the ctrlr stuff.

I downloaded the .dmg to my Macbook Pro, and then downloaded frank46 excellent editor.

It works great on my Mac! So much easier than using my iPad with CCK.





hi,

there's a fast fix for the cutted off panel workspace, please repeat the download of v1.12.3.

We have no possibility at home to test the panel on IOS:
is the register save/load in SoundExplorer/GM2 working and is the file correctly saved (Documents-folder)?

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#2901854 - 01/13/18 01:34 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Originally Posted By: franky46
Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Hey all. I am new to the ctrlr stuff.

I downloaded the .dmg to my Macbook Pro, and then downloaded frank46 excellent editor.

It works great on my Mac! So much easier than using my iPad with CCK.





hi,

there's a fast fix for the cutted off panel workspace, please repeat the download of v1.12.3.

We have no possibility at home to test the panel on IOS:
is the register save/load in SoundExplorer/GM2 working and is the file correctly saved (Documents-folder)?



I haven't tested it that far yet. I will let you know
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#2902123 - 01/14/18 08:44 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: franky46]
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Originally Posted By: franky46


hi,
We have no possibility at home to test the panel on IOS:
is the register save/load in SoundExplorer/GM2 working and is the file correctly saved (Documents-folder)?


Yes, this works! smile
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#2902382 - 01/15/18 07:02 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Hey all. A little help from the experts. I am teaching myself how to decipher Sysex based on the implementation chart for the VR09, especially as it applies to the Registrations.

The following is what I get when I select Reg Bank 1-1 "Long Division"

Quote:

Roland 13 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 01 59 01 00 22 F7 JP8 Brass lower part
Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 65 01 17 F7
Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 00 00 7D F7

Roland 13 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 01 2C 0D 00 42 F7 Syn Strings1 upper part
Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 65 01 16 F7
Roland 11 bytes F0 41 10 62 12 01 03 00 00 7C F7



I put the tone name to the right.

After the first 5 of 13 bytes; I believe this shows the address with offset, then the PC, MSB, LSB.
That's why the JP8 Brass, in this case, is the lower part (offset 2).

Am I right so far?

Can I use the info to send the VR09 a sysex command to call up a registration?
I am able to send Sysex.

I am still figuring out what the associated 11byte lines define for the tones.

Thank in advance.


Edited by EscapeRocks (01/15/18 07:03 PM)
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#2903326 - Yesterday at 12:49 PM Re: Roland V-Combo VR-09 [Re: EscapeRocks]
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*edit* aaaah, I hate this f***ing auto formatting forums ... I'my sorry you have to 'imagine' the '....' are spaces.


Originally Posted By: EscapeRocks
Hey all.


Hi,
first of all thanks for checking the McOS folder path smile

> That's why the JP8 Brass, in this case, is the lower part (offset 2).

02 is not the lower part, it's the upper part "no. 2". Let's break it up:

F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 01 59 01 00 22 F7 =>
F0 41 10 62 12..: prefix (sysex start byte, sound engine ID ...)
01 02...........: midi manual p 11 "offset": 01 02 00 | Upper Part Information (SYNTH DUAL2)
01..............: midi manual p11 "upper part information": 00 01 | 0aaa aaaa | TONE NUMBER [you take only the 2nd byte]
59 01 00........: pc, msb, lsb
22..............: roland checksum
F7..............: sysex end byte


you must regard the offsets as a "classical summation"

| 01 02 00 | Upper Part Information (SYNTH DUAL2) |........<= section 'Start'
| .. 00 01 | 0aaa aaaa | TONE NUMBER.......................<= section "upper part information"
------------
| 02 02 01 | ......... <= "sum"


> Can I use the info to send the VR09 a sysex command to call up a registration?

If you mean the 25x4 "registration sets": no, unless there is an undocumented thus unkown sysex, it's not possible (something critisised on the VR09).
You can only load individual 'sound' patches , e.g. like the editor app does

> I am still figuring out what the associated 11byte lines define for the tones
e.g.:
F0 41 10 62 12 01 02 65 01 17 F7 =>
F0 41 10 62 12....: prefix
01 02.............: midi manual p 11: 01 02 00 | Upper Part Information (SYNTH DUAL2)
65 01.............: undocumented. Guess 65 references the size in bytes of the whole section "Upper Part Information". You can use this number when requesting a sysex dumb
17 F7.............: checksum + sysex end

now you should be able to identify the other sysex smile

f


Edited by franky46 (Yesterday at 12:59 PM)

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