Music Player Network Home Guitar Player Magazine Keyboard Magazine Bass Player Magazine EQ Magazine
Page 2 of 9 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 >
Topic Options
#2444654 - 10/10/12 10:09 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: galaxy4t]
Steve LeBlanc Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/22/00
Posts: 7358
Loc: Los Angeles, CA,UNITED STATES
Originally Posted By: galaxy4t
Steve,
Thanks for posting these sound demos. The AP sounds great for the price point. How is the sustain of the sample. Does it seem like Casio fixed the quick decay of the initial attack? It was hard to tell from the Joe Sample clip if it was better.


To my ears yes, it sustains just fine.

Top
KC Island
#2444685 - 10/11/12 06:08 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: galaxy4t]
Mike Martin Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 01/10/01
Posts: 2492
Loc: Naperville, Ilinois
Originally Posted By: galaxy4t
Steve,
Thanks for posting these sound demos.


+1 thu
_________________________
-Mike Martin
Casio America, Inc.

Casio Music Forums
Privia Pro PX-5S Audio Demos

Top
#2444687 - 10/11/12 06:12 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Steve LeBlanc]
Steve Force Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 8684
Loc: Metro-Detroit, Michigan
Originally Posted By: Steve LeBlanc
after playing the EPs a bit more with different styles, I don't think the demo I did showcases them well. They're actually fine for most gigs and some of the patches are real fun to play.

I've deleted my EP demo for now, I can try to do a better one next week.


Sounded pretty good to me.... thu
_________________________
"forceman" -Detroit, Michigan
--------
My Professional Websites

My musical gear Blog

Top
#2444702 - 10/11/12 07:17 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Steve Force]
Jazz+ Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/15/04
Posts: 4642
Is there a Rhodes demo anywhere?

Based on the piano sounds I think I will be staying with my FP-4 for a while longer unless the PX action/touch response surpasses in a big way.
_________________________
Roland FP-4 digital piano, 2 EV SXa-360 powered speakers (36 lbs each). WS-550 stand. Mason & Hamlin acoustic piano.

Top
#2444704 - 10/11/12 07:27 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Steve Force]
erikjamesmusic Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 07/29/10
Posts: 69
Loc: New York, NY
Thanks for the input, guys. I think I'm gonna sell my QSC k8 for an EV ZX1a and shave 8 lbs. there in case I need more amplification that internal speakers, and get the Yamaha p-105. I gotta go with the keyboard that feels and sounds the best to me, and that was the Yammie, hands down.
_________________________
atomicfunkproject.com

Top
#2444709 - 10/11/12 07:49 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Jazz+]
D-Bon Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 7271
Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Is there a Rhodes demo anywhere?

Did you watch this?

Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Just got this uploaded...
Here is Joe on some of the EPs.



Top
#2444739 - 10/11/12 09:25 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: erikjamesmusic]
Bill H. Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 3273
Loc: Columbia River Gorge, US
Originally Posted By: erikjamesmusic
Thanks for the input, guys. I think I'm gonna sell my QSC k8 for an EV ZX1a and shave 8 lbs. there in case I need more amplification that internal speakers, and get the Yamaha p-105. I gotta go with the keyboard that feels and sounds the best to me, and that was the Yammie, hands down.


Thanks for your input Erik thu You are not the first person who has chosen the Yamaha after playing these two DPs side by side, so it must be a pretty decent piano.

I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of both in my area (Portland) so I can do the same thing. I have been putting off buying a new DP because these two new models were coming out this fall.

I think you made the right decision regarding external amplification if you're doing anything of consequence. I have played both their predecessors, and I'd sure hate to use them stand-alone for anything other than rehearsal.

Top
#2444752 - 10/11/12 09:59 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Bill H.]
LX88 Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 10/16/10
Posts: 1117
I played a Yamaha P105 at the Beaverton Guitar Center.... I haven't seen any Casios show up anywhere near Portland -yet.

I am not hearing a "Rhodes" EP demo here either . The sound that Joe Sample seems to be getting the best effect out of seems more like a Wurlie or a reed sound rather that a tine sound.

Top
#2444758 - 10/11/12 10:17 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: LX88]
D-Bon Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 7271
Loc: Brooklyn, NY
I think that first sound Joe is playing is a Rhodes. Perhaps Mike can clarify.

Top
#2444759 - 10/11/12 10:21 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: D-Bon]
Mike Martin Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 01/10/01
Posts: 2492
Loc: Naperville, Ilinois
Originally Posted By: D-Bon
I think that first sound Joe is playing is a Rhodes. Perhaps Mike can clarify.


Correct
_________________________
-Mike Martin
Casio America, Inc.

Casio Music Forums
Privia Pro PX-5S Audio Demos

Top
#2444775 - 10/11/12 11:57 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Mike Martin]
allan_evett Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 2547
Loc: Westville, IN
After listening to the PX-350's EP examples, and having played the EP's in the P105 early in the week, it doesn't seem that the electric piano tones in either instrument outclass one another. Both seem to provide decent, working-class EP's for basic gigging.
For the more authentic, detailed Rhodes and Wurli tones one would need to look to Yamaha SCM or Roland SuperNatural. Those instruments, by design and market, are in a different class from the P105 or PX-350 anyway.
The same goes for pianos, as well. Though at this price point I feel that the PX-350 offers more features, and options. But like many here I also dig the Yamaha piano tone. That said though, if my budget allowed for it my Yamaha of choice would be a CP5 (or more likely a CP50). But, while it's a very good instrument for the money, I didn't find that the P105 quite did it for me. From work I did back in 2010, the PX-330 had a better 'connect', musically - at least for me; obviously, YMMV.

So I suspect that the PX-350 will be my choice of lightweight, gigging 88. When the teaching studio gets a PX-350 in, I'll definitely post some examples. While there are some YouTube videos up of the P105, hopefully some will be added to this thread by those who are picking up a P105. Would be cool to see and hear some direct user comparisons.
_________________________
“I would love to hear someone write a song like ‘He Stopped Loving Her Today’ rather than ‘You’re hot. I’m hot. We’re in a truck.’ It’s just mind-numbing to me.”-Vince Gill





Top
#2444808 - 10/11/12 02:16 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: LX88]
Bill H. Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 3273
Loc: Columbia River Gorge, US
Originally Posted By: LX88
I played a Yamaha P105 at the Beaverton Guitar Center.... I haven't seen any Casios show up anywhere near Portland -yet.

Yeah Guitar Center's website shows P105s in Clakamas too, which is more on my side of the street. Closest PX-350 is up in Kirkland WA at present.

Neither Apple Music,Portland Music, nor Showcase Music lets you check their store inventory online - so I suppose I'll have to *ahem* call before making a planned trip to Portland early next week. If you spot any such animal in the flesh please post it or PM me LX88 smile

The PX-350 is the one I'm most interested in because it has MIDI. Yeah I still use it sometimes. But this is kind of like watching the presidential debates - I pretty much know how I'm going to vote but I'd better listen to the other guy anyway just in case I'm missing something... wink

Top
#2444855 - 10/11/12 06:21 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Bill H.]
LarsHarner Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/25/02
Posts: 147
Steve- the demo on the dolce is great (posted this on another board)
Erik- I often visit that Sam Ash when in NYC for concerts, I miss Manny's though but enjoy going to Guitar Center and and J&R has a very very nice selection of DP's as well.

I currently have the P95 but am in the process of attempting to sell it for a P105. If everything works out I can do the upgrade for $200-225, problem is its like everyone wants a stand as well.

Now, even though the P105 action is the same spec wise- it feels improved, I find the better speakers, better Rhodes and better piano sample a total of 4 reasons to upgrade.

I like the PX350 very much as well- since I do like playing with speakers I enjoyed them. I found the PX350 to be one of the rare pianos from which I enjoyed ALL 7 variations. Especially the dolce and rock piano- having some brilliance settings will be nice as well.

I would agree with a prior post that the EP's are close to an even playing field- i found the P105 rhodes to be an improvement, and I found around 2 or 3 on the PX350 i enjoyed.

However, I did not find the organs overly impressive, but of course we know they are not the focal point of the board.

Top
#2444876 - 10/12/12 01:23 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: LarsHarner]
Aidan Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 3395
Loc: Stoke-on-Trent, UK
I had a chance to play the P105 a few days back while I was passing a local emporium. I have to say, it didn't do anything for me. There's something about the lower end Yamahas which I just don't find inspiring.

Anyway, this morning I went ahead and ordered a PX-350 and it should be arriving on the 18th. I suspect that in band situations I'll just be using it as a second keybed driven from the Kronos but we'll see.

I have a gig in Central London tomorrow which would have been ideal for the Casio to mop up but I'm gonna have to take the Stage instead. Grr!

I got the Casio in black but if I like it, I may end up getting a white one too. I'm offering "free white digital piano" for weddings next year. I was thinking of the Kawai ES7 but after my Kronos encounter, I'm very reluctant to wrestle 22kg of piano again.

Hey, and if I end up with two, I'll finally have something in common with Joe Sample!
_________________________
Yamaha CP40 | Hammond SK1-61 | Kurzweil PC361 | Crumar Mojo

Top
#2444881 - 10/12/12 02:58 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Aidan]
nickd Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 05/24/10
Posts: 643
Loc: UK
Aidan, can you let us know your thoughts on the PX-350 when you get it?

I'm seriously tempted to retire my old PX-310 and sell my Yamaha CP-33, and replace both with a PX-350.

Although the lack of half-pedalling without the big SP33 pedal seems a shame - maybe I could hack a SP33 to cut away all the bits not needed and just leave the pedal?

Top
#2444893 - 10/12/12 06:07 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: nickd]
Aidan Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 3395
Loc: Stoke-on-Trent, UK
Nick, will do!
_________________________
Yamaha CP40 | Hammond SK1-61 | Kurzweil PC361 | Crumar Mojo

Top
#2444946 - 10/12/12 09:44 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Aidan]
Aidan Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 3395
Loc: Stoke-on-Trent, UK
By the way, apart from Casio's own accessories, which "other brand" sustain pedals have the correct polarity for the PX series?
_________________________
Yamaha CP40 | Hammond SK1-61 | Kurzweil PC361 | Crumar Mojo

Top
#2444950 - 10/12/12 09:57 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Aidan]
Toano88 Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 04/30/10
Posts: 1891
Loc: Toano, Virginia, USA
Aidan, I have used both the Kurzweil pedal from my SP4-7 and an M-Audio pedal with my PX-330. Anything that works on Roland will work. The only odd one out is my Yamaha MOX8. I have to change the polarity on an M-Audio pedal for it.
_________________________
Boards: FA-08,MOX8, SV-1 73, XW-P1, VR-09
Modules: Korg Radias, Roland Bk7-m & Sonic Cell

Top
#2444956 - 10/12/12 10:12 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Toano88]
AnotherScott Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 6869
Korg pedals are also the same polarity as Casio.

Top
#2444957 - 10/12/12 10:14 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: nickd]
AnotherScott Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 6869
Originally Posted By: nickd
I'm seriously tempted to retire my old PX-310

I still prefer the PX-310 over the PX-350 in many ways.

Top
#2444958 - 10/12/12 10:19 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: allan_evett]
AnotherScott Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 6869
Originally Posted By: allan_evett
For the more authentic, detailed Rhodes and Wurli tones one would need to look to Yamaha SCM or Roland SuperNatural.

Or probably the Korg Krome, or SV-1, or any Kurzweil, or even some other Casios. IMO, the PX-350 EP lags behind the PX-3 (as well as some older Casio models). I think the Kawai MP6 may have some decent EPs as well, but I only heard them briefly a long time ago, and wasn't focussing on them at the time.

Top
#2444960 - 10/12/12 10:25 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: galaxy4t]
AnotherScott Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 6869
Originally Posted By: galaxy4t
The AP sounds great for the price point. How is the sustain of the sample. Does it seem like Casio fixed the quick decay of the initial attack? It was hard to tell from the Joe Sample clip if it was better.

If you're comparing it to the previous generation Casios (PX-130/PX-330/PX-3), I think the piano sound is notably improved overall, but the initial decay of the notes (after first being struck) seems about the same to me, i.e. steeper than I'd have liked.

Top
#2444963 - 10/12/12 10:32 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Steve LeBlanc]
AnotherScott Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 6869
Originally Posted By: Steve LeBlanc
EDITED TO ADD:
The keyboard action and feel of the keys is also very fresh and exciting. smile I played it for a good while today without fatigue and enjoyed it.

I was very impressed with the feel of the action. There is no other current weighted action I've played short of the $2k range that feels any better to me than this. I'd take it over the Yamaha GH or GHS actions, Roland FP4F/RD300NX, Kawai MP6, Fatar TP100 (i.e. Kurzweil SP4-8, Numa Piano) or any Korg (though I haven't played the Krome). It has an elegant feel, with a slightly soft landing. The action it most reminds me of is the Kawai MP-10, but better, because it is not as heavy and sluggish feeling as the MP-10, and it feels a bit firmer, to the best of my recollection... IOW, it kind of has what I liked about the MP-10 while not having what I don't like about it. However, there is a downside for me, in that I could not find a velocity curve setting that I really connected with when triggering the internal piano sound. Obviously, not everyone is having that concern, but I'd be really curious to see how the action would work triggering some external piano sound (i.e. using it as a weighted board to trigger the piano sound in an unweighted Kronos, Nord Stage, or a VST piano, for example).


Edited by AnotherScott (10/12/12 04:13 PM)
Edit Reason: corrected Roland model #

Top
#2444978 - 10/12/12 11:21 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: AnotherScott]
D-Bon Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 7271
Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
I'd take it over the Yamaha GH or GHS actions, Roland FP4/RD300NX, Kawai MP6, Fatar TP100 (i.e. Kurzweil SP4-8, Numa Piano) or any Korg (though I haven't played the Krome).

+1, however I think it's still a bit too heavy. I think Yamaha's BH action is better, and I also prefer Fatar's TP40GH and TP40M.

Top
#2444979 - 10/12/12 11:21 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: AnotherScott]
Aidan Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 3395
Loc: Stoke-on-Trent, UK
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
I'd be really curious to see how the action would work triggering some external piano sound (i.e. using it as a weighted board to trigger the piano sound in an unweighted Kronos, Nord Stage, or a VST piano, for example).


I'll be able to tell you in about seven days, Scott! smile
_________________________
Yamaha CP40 | Hammond SK1-61 | Kurzweil PC361 | Crumar Mojo

Top
#2444990 - 10/12/12 12:34 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Aidan]
Moonglow Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 3454
Loc: Northwest Indiana
Originally Posted By: Aidan
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
I'd be really curious to see how the action would work triggering some external piano sound (i.e. using it as a weighted board to trigger the piano sound in an unweighted Kronos, Nord Stage, or a VST piano, for example).


I'll be able to tell you in about seven days, Scott! smile

Count me in among those interested in this, as well!
_________________________
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing."
- George Bernard Shaw

Top
#2444996 - 10/12/12 01:26 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Moonglow]
Fusker Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 04/20/09
Posts: 1177
Loc: Moscow, Idaho
Yep, it's one of my lead trigger candidates for an Integra or Kronos.
_________________________
Yamaha Motif XS-8, Nord Electro 3 73, bunch of PA stuff.

Top
#2444997 - 10/12/12 01:40 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: Fusker]
mate_stubb Offline
10k Club

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 11384
Since it transmits hi def velocity, somebody please hook it up to pianoteq.
_________________________
Moe
---
About the only thing I'd run through a Roland KC amp is a chainsaw.
http://www.hotrodmotm.com

Top
#2445010 - 10/12/12 02:53 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: AnotherScott]
Steve LeBlanc Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/22/00
Posts: 7358
Loc: Los Angeles, CA,UNITED STATES
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Originally Posted By: Steve LeBlanc
EDITED TO ADD:
The keyboard action and feel of the keys is also very fresh and exciting. smile I played it for a good while today without fatigue and enjoyed it.

I was very impressed with the feel of the action. There is no other current weighted action I've played short of the $2k range that feels any better to me than this. I'd take it over the Yamaha GH or GHS actions, Roland FP4/RD300NX, Kawai MP6, Fatar TP100 (i.e. Kurzweil SP4-8, Numa Piano) or any Korg (though I haven't played the Krome). It has an elegant feel, with a slightly soft landing. The action it most reminds me of is the Kawai MP-10, but better, because it is not as heavy and sluggish feeling as the MP-10, and it feels a bit firmer, to the best of my recollection... IOW, it kind of has what I liked about the MP-10 while not having what I don't like about it. However, there is a downside for me, in that I could not find a velocity curve setting that I really connected with when triggering the internal piano sound. Obviously, not everyone is having that concern, but I'd be really curious to see how the action would work triggering some external piano sound (i.e. using it as a weighted board to trigger the piano sound in an unweighted Kronos, Nord Stage, or a VST piano, for example).


I used the PX-350's internal pianos and midi'd to a Receptor for EPs and strings last night at the Greek Theater in Hollywood. It worked great.

Top
#2445062 - 10/12/12 09:35 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350 vs. Yamaha P-105 [Re: AnotherScott]
galaxy4t Offline
Member

Registered: 09/13/09
Posts: 27
Originally Posted By: AnotherScott[/quote

If you're comparing it to the previous generation Casios (PX-130/PX-330/PX-3), I think the piano sound is notably improved overall, but the initial decay of the notes (after first being struck) seems about the same to me, i.e. steeper than I'd have liked.

Scott,
Thanks for your opinion on that. Perhaps it is the way Casio blends the layers of the piano sample. How do you think the overall sustain of the notes is? You really seem to like the action and put it in the league with the big boys. I'm not surprised, I thought this was the area that Casio needed to focus on as I thought it was their weakest link to an otherwise good product.


Edited by galaxy4t (10/12/12 09:44 PM)

Top
Page 2 of 9 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 >


Moderator:  Dave Bryce, Stephen Fortner