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Huh. Why Is My P-Bass Feeling So Good? #2402157 04/08/12 09:56 AM
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I have previously mentioned my preference for Jazz basses over Ps. Last few gigs, however, for a change of pace, I've been taking my P-Bass "Phat-Lo." Ye gods. It seems like my chops have taken a step forward and I've been bringing the funk to a greater degree, Others have commented on it without my saying anything.

So my J has roundwounds and my P has flats. It actually seems to be the tone that's inspiring me.

I intend to do an A/B test between the two, but has anyone else had this experience, that a particular instrument just seems to make your playing take flight? I'm enjoying it...

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Aw, go ahead, you know you want to. Put some flats on that jazz. I did and I haven't looked back. I love the tone and the feel I get from them.


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I actually put flats on my homemade J a while back and like them. So maybe I'll be doing an A/B/C comparison...



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+1 (or 2) for flats on a Jazz!! I actually prefer the sound of flats on my Jazz as opposed to the sound of flats on my Squier Precision. Could be the brand of flats, though ...

I usually play my Jazz exclusively, although I bring the P as backup. But the P is a 4 string and I do not have enough faith in my chops to play a 4 grin


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i have found that depending upon tone and setup i play differently on different instruments. but i'm not a huge fan of the flats feel.

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I put flats on my Jazz a couple of months ago and love the difference: bigger sound and greater sustain, and my fingertips don't hurt after a rehearsal or gig.


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We seem to be focusing on the flatwound strings. Is this the key, do you think? I love the tones of my J basses, but just seemed to be really digging the sound of the P this past weekend, and I just wondered if that enjoyment might have translated into a more relaxed, less self-conscious approach.



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Flats on my Jazz. Gonna stay there for awhile.


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See? That's why I own 2 Jazzes and (now) 2 Precisions.


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I don't really like the feel of flats with a fretted bass. Fine with a fretless but with a fretted to me they're all wrong. I prefer rounds or DR Sunbeams to be precise.

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Ironically I generally prefer flats with fretted and rounds with fretless.


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Originally Posted By: kenfxj
Ironically I generally prefer flats with fretted and rounds with fretless.


I'm the same, to some extent - rounds on all my fretless's and at least one Jazz-type with flats (don't own a P-Bass).
Tried flats (TI's) on a fretless and it sounded, well, flat.


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Originally Posted By: JBFLA
Tried flats (TI's) on a fretless and it sounded, well, flat.
I never felt TIs were anything special, myself. I use D'Addario Chromes and they seem to sound as good and play as well as the TIs, IMO, at 1/3 the cost.



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Chromes are great especially after they get settled in! thu


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To Chad's original question, it could be anything from the strings to the different necks, there might be more than 'one' thing.

It could be that it's different enough tone to feel new and it's piqued your interest in being more creative.

On the string factor, I switched my VM Jaguar over to Fender stainless steel flats and I dig that tone real well. I can still dial in the burpy J sound and get a nice, mellow old school blues sound with the P pickup and the tone rolled off 3 'clicks'.

Maybe the next time you bring the P, it won't sound as right- who knows? idk


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P Basses rock, dude. They are very forgiving tonally, and they don't distract a player from the main event. You don't have to diddle around with knobs and preamps to find a sound you like in some combination of two or more pickups. The P bass pickup is blessedly quiet, but not overly dark like a lot of humbuckers are. The neck (which has been called "clubby" by some) has enough wood in it to promote tone, and at least for me, fits my hand much more naturally and comfortably than most of the other basses I've tried. The tone is full and rich in lows, yet defined and clear without being "pointy". And, there are basses that look as good, but I've never seen one that looks better. To me, all of that stuff adds up to a bass I don't have to worry about doing anything to, with or about besides playing the silly thing, which is the whole point.
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I feel this way about my Geddy Lee jazz. Dime everything and play. I do on occasion roll the tone off a little as it is a little aggressive at times.

I've tried to love a P, but I always come back to the J.

Glad you're liking yours though.

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Originally Posted By: Chad Thorne
We seem to be focusing on the flatwound strings. Is this the key, do you think? I love the tones of my J basses, but just seemed to be really digging the sound of the P this past weekend, ...


Its not the strings, its the bass and that you like the sound of it when you play it. I tend to play better when I'm digging my tone. Maybe even the room that you were playing it in speaks to you with that particular setup. But it was probably the bass. Precision basses are sheer passive monsters. But yeah, go ahead and try flats on the jazz, you'll love that for awhile until you put rounds on it again and then you'll love that until you want to try the flats again. Or maybe not. Or maybe. But that Pbass thing has got it going on. Always has.

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Got a gig tonight and I'm taking my J with the flats on it for comparison. (I'll take the P, too, just in case...)

I'm sort of hoping that this can be explained by a breakthrough in my chops - but probably not...

Originally Posted By: picker
You don't have to diddle around with knobs and preamps to find a sound you like in some combination of two or more pickups.
laugh I never do that anyway. I haven't yet found active pickups I like, so no preamps, and all I ever do with any of my basses is turn the volume up full and twiddle the tone control from time to time, depending on the song. I WILL say say that on the rare occasion when I want to roll back the instrument volume a bit I'll only do it on the P because it doesn't change the tone.



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you're right; the tone doesn't change. i mean, it does, but the psychoacoustic effects of lowering the volume dominate any changes that might exist.

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Chad, I think that you got it right: flatwounds change the experience and the tone, this is quite obviously bound to turn you on or off. Just, maybe might not be the right kick every day.
Regarding fretted and fretless, I too think that rounds are better on a fretless, even if there is concern for the life of the neck. Flats can give a lot of expression to a fretted bass. Pino Palladino appears to be of the same opinion.


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Originally Posted By: Michele C.

Regarding fretted and fretless, I too think that rounds are better on a fretless, even if there is concern for the life of the neck. Flats can give a lot of expression to a fretted bass.


I agree. I love the flats on my fretted basses, but oddly the rounds sound so much better on my fretless than flats.


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haven't you people heard of sandpaper? as soon as your fingerboard starts to develop wear and it's time to change strings, get out the sandpaper and steel wool and fix it up. it's not hard.


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