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Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard #2372955
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Hello everyone,

Actually I'm just a beginner amateur and I've been a piano music fan for a long time but this is my first time to consider buying a keyboard.

My budget is within 140$ at max for the price of the keyboard because I live in Egypt, it's gonna be shipped but at an extra charge via online shopping sites Amazon, Ebay, etc..

After a lot of research I've come to those -The CTK-3000 & LK-165- for the budget and features as well,
What do you recommend for me? Also if you can tell me about something better but within budget, Go ahead.

Thank you in advance smile


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: Blur18] #2372958
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Welcome Blur18,

I think most of the folks on this forum will say what I am about to:

Unfortunately, for $140, you will get more of a toy then a usable musical instrument. The same would be true of a guitar or any other instrument for that matter. Manufacturers produce things that look like the real thing but they just aren't.

Your best bet, in my opinion, is to save up some money and buy a used Casio CDP-100 or something similar off ebay. There are two things that make a real keyboard: Action and sound.

You can get away with bad sound if you are just playing for yourself. If you want to perform in a band or for people however, the low end stuff won't do it.

Action is a much more important element. Those budget keyboards have horrible action. The CDP-100 has weighted keys which will be almost mandatory for developing the proper muscles in your fingers. Higher end non-weighted boards are also okay but are light years ahead of the beginner stuff.

I just got into keyboards myself a few years ago and I started with some casio LK thing but quickly realized it was a path to nowhere. I then bought a used Yamaha workstation (motif) and the growth exploded from there.

So, anyway, just my thoughts as I was in your position not too long ago.


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: JimboK] #2373025
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Look, I'm not goin to play for a band it's just for me to practice, only for the love of the music nothing more..

Right now the 140$ is all I can afford also I've told you it's the shipping that makes my problem and not the 140 bucks of the keyboard.

And I was really shocked by the way you described the LKs & CTKs as toys I've seen several people using them online and it was really amazing can you tell me why do you think so?


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: Blur18] #2373027
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Originally Posted By: Blur18
And I was really shocked by the way you described the LKs & CTKs as toys I've seen several people using them online and it was really amazing can you tell me why do you think so?


Because they are toys... sorry, but your amazement doesn't make it otherwise. frown


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: Sven Golly] #2373031
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Originally Posted By: Sven Golly
Originally Posted By: Blur18
And I was really shocked by the way you described the LKs & CTKs as toys I've seen several people using them online and it was really amazing can you tell me why do you think so?


Because they are toys... sorry, but your amazement doesn't make it otherwise. frown


So if I told you that I'm just gonna play music for fun and not for professionalism or so, would you recommend me not to buy these so called toys?

Provided that that cash is the only I can afford..


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: Blur18] #2373032
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Of the two mentioned, the CTK-3000 is probably your better buy - for the simple reason that the extra cost of the LK-165 is principally for the lighted feature on the keyboard, which will not affect the sound, nor make it easier to play.

Note that this particular forum is largely populated with professional and semi-pro musicians. ANY keyboard in this price range is a "toy" to a pro - partly because its build quality would not stand up to gigging at different locations. Such boards are largely made with plastic materials instead of metal, and simply are not very rugged. HOwever, that won't affect your home use. I personally have made some good music with the Yamaha PSR series, which on the low-end are also "toys" to pros. In fact, if the keyboard had had full size keys, I'd probably still use it somewhere.

It is also true that there are more expensive Casios that are in use by professionals - they don't necessarily SOUND a lot better, but they sound somewhat better and are more rugged.

I would guess that your shipping charges to Egypt are probably more than the actual keyboard prices, especially when ordering from US vendors. I do wonder if you could order from some of the European vendors and get a lower shipping cost - might be worth exploring.

A 61-key unweighted keyboard will NOT prepare you for any pianistic efforts; but can be find for many other uses, such as synth leads, pads, organ sounds, etc.


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: MoodyBluesKeys] #2373033
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That sums it all! Thank you very much indeed! and I will surely check those vendors you mentioned.


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Re: Casio CTK-3000 vs Casio LK-165 Lighted Keyboard [Re: Blur18] #2373058
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I would agree with MoodyBlues Keys. One thing not mentioned here is that the CTK-3000 has touch response (velocity sensitive) keys, while the LK-165 does not.

For a little bit more money there is CTK-4200 which is a dramatic step up in sound quality and features.

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